ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

As far as I can tell... Those two vent squares that are side by side look like they might form some type of vacuum channel for their respective Gpu/Cpu. If it is indeed some type of channel system, it might end up being pretty good.

 

I think you misunderstand me Hazard... I perceive hubris as "having balls" or being proud and courageous.

 

oh then maybe

 

My big question, for right now, is the multi-monitor capabilities of the ATi HD5870.

How does it all work and how many monitors can be hooked up to the G73?

 

hmm. what's the name of the mouse? I'm not familiar with mouses.

 

I'm not sure. Here is a closer look...

 

The specs for the ATI card says it can support up to 6, but I believe it's limited by how many outputs are on your machine. That being the case, I'd think you could hook one up to the vga, and one up to the hdmi for two monitors on this machine... 3 if you count the internal one.

Hopefully someone with access to an ear at ASUS can verify that, though, as it would be interesting to know.

 

I suspect a Logitech mouse but who knows. Reason being because of the perforated side pad for the thumb. Its exactly like a Logitech vx revolution mouse I was looking at. Also the left and right mouse buttons look the same as well. The plastic connects to the rest of the mouse. Also the button on top might be a search feature like the vx revolution.

Back to the vents, well if the air is channeled from the center (the two vents) spreading out to the fans and out, then the picture that shows this isn't far off. It's just a little misleading that it shows the air taken from the front.

 

still don't really know what mouse it is (looked over razer mouses and logitech mouses it was not there)
but thanks for the pictures. I appreciate it.

 

For Eyefinity to work you need a "Display Port" which is not on the ASUS G73JH-A1.

I will be interested to see if any laptop manufacturer puts that port on their machine...

 

I looked at ATI's site before posting, and they say: "Up to two DVI, HDMI, or VGA display outputs can be combined with DisplayPort outputs for a total of up to six monitors, depending on the graphics card configuration and the operating system."

So I was thinking that the two external ports could be the "up to two" and the internal maybe be like the DisplayPort. If not, hopefully at least one can mirror the internal, and one can be a second display.

http://www.amd.com/us/Documents/Display_Connectivity.pdf

 

i'm hearing that release date has been pushed to middle to late feb? any confirmation?

 

paladin44 is a trusted seller that has great ratings incase you didn't know. (from powernotebooks)

 

great i looked through the whole thread and mustve missed his post :/
*insert soviet sunrise sarcasm here*

 

You guys are making me laugh with all the fan intake & heat concerns.

I mean, page, after page, after page here.... and it's seems to have developed into a hysteria of sorts..... The G73JH IS GOING TO BURN IN HELL!. AHHHHH, CHICKEN LITTLE, THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! Heck, we even have one user here who " ultimately declined to pre-order in favor of a Qosmio 505-875. Being the owner of 2 previous laptops (RIP) whos high end graphics cards melted down". Darn, talk about fear of the unknown!

We will all know and understand the temps, and cooling system soon enough. Personally, I am not worried at all, and I believe the G73JH will run remarkably cool..... and here is what I know:

When I foretold of this notebook, I posted as I was told, that this notebook would be a complete refresh over the G72, and that it's thermal design would be specific to the needs of the i7 and the 5870 card. Asus did this outstandingly in the W90, and I have every confidence they have done the same in the G73.

Also consider, along with the G73's Stealth concept, a unique thermal design is a key premise in the marketing of this notebook. As such, I serously doubt temps will be an issue here..... perhaps listen again carefully to Asus Chairman Jonney Shih:

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Anyhow, we will know soon enough, and I venture to say, probably before they ship to us. Fear-mongering and speculation will not provide the answers...... but what it has apparently done, is scared some away from a potentially great notebook, LOL!

Since everyone is speculating how it cools or where air intakes, I'll bite! The fan system is supposed to be unique, and everything is rearward..... so I think most is happening at those massive rear gills..... in some sort of vortex type system. So, there ya go..... my two cents, LOL!

Bottom line, when this thing arrives to my door, within the first hour, I will know if it runs cool...... and if it doesn't, before the day is done, it will be repacked and shipped back to the reseller for a full refund! But again, I think we will know the answers before they even ship to us.

So I really don't feel a real concern here......

Also, after looking over those new photos today, I'd say the G73JH is now even more appealing. Did anyone note the backpack...... ahhhhh, it's Stealthy too!

 

haha yeah, there are so many pages with many repeated questions and other conversations that it's getting hard to find an information even with searching through the thread.
when i first heard that it was delayed til late feb...

 

I gotta say, it looks sooooo much better than the green backpacks they were giving out. (personally didn't like them at all)
I'm still curious about the mouse, it feels like the mouse isn't from razer?

 

I wouldn't so worried about a free mouse...regardless, it looks like a regular mouse.

 

Hmmmmm, yeah, a Stealthy mouse too, LOL!

Looks like a Logitech..... mystery mouse, I'll have to look into this......

 

lol.. ASUS has been giving out free razor mouses(copperhead)
so I'm expecting a mouse better than copperhead. Maybe I'm expecting too much

 

The Asus chairman didn't go into anything specific. All he did was say how stealthy the damn thing was and a whole bunch of other sugar-laced phrases. What he meant by all the heat generating components are in the back of the notebook is just that. The CPU and GPU are near the back along with their radiators, just like my W870CU. Air is sucked in through the only externally visual intake, which is on the bottom of the notebook. There is no rear entry, rear exhausting "channel" here. No radial (centrifugal) fan is capable of doing so if only the two rear grills were used, unless air is sucked in from the left grill and exhausted from the right, But that is less efficient and I don't think Asus is stupid enough to use a design like that. Like I said before, cooling is going to be the same as every other conventional notebook: air is pulled from the bottom and released through the rear, though this time with two fans instead of one, and it's going to cool the CPU and the GPU properly this time.

Whom I want to hear from is the actual engineers that designed the notebook, not some CEO that was given a script to read and memorize and give under pressure. What I also want to hear is actual design concepts and ideas that me as as an engineer understands completely instead of metaphoric garbage that this guy is spewing out of his mouth to the audience.

If any of you guys want to speculate or come up with these crazy cooling ideas that are "unique" to the notebook world, please take up mechanical engineering before theorizing. MexicanSnake, where are you man? Help me out here.

 

I was referring to the G73, not the G72. The BSOD was just a mention of Asus's job with the G51-J that doesn't hopefully make it's way to the g73.

 

Lol i was not commenting on your comment but Student@Antwerps... He was calling the G72 the G73 which is currently not available...

 

bad memories..........
idk if I could trust ASUS again if G73 has the BSoD problem.
I doubt G73 would have this problem though, they probably tested this lappy out alot(at least I hope)

 

These guys are apparently the ones who helped design the machine but the way they explain it in the video is the air is being pulled in from the front....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEyTtSy1C_o&feature=player_embedded

 

That's the HP Gaming mouse:

http://www.productwiki.com/hp-laser-gaming-mouse/

 

That video felt like I was listening to Jean-Claude Van Damme instead of John Van Damme. From the front, from the center, it doesn't matter. CFM is still being drawn from the frontside under notebook, not the rear. They didn't go into anything about the thermal design instead of saying that they put all the hot stuff in the back and air comes from the front. What I think they meant is that air entering the center intakes on the bottom is being taken from the frontside of under the notebook. Air doesn't necessarily get sucked in perpendicular to the intakes on the backpanel. It really depends on how the fans are setup, but if the distance and the height is far enough, then it will pull in a forward motion as they say from the center intakes.

Nonetheless, thanks for the video, Quadzilla.

 

The vent on the front (labelled 'subwoofer') could quite easily function as an air intake.

What we are looking at is a simple hole, not the subwoofer itself. We can't see the subwoofer or its position/orientation. So long as that hole is open to the rest of the laptop (and not part of a sealed chamber) it will function as an air intake, simple physics.

And again, that ties in with the official description of front to rear airflow.

 

Yup definitely HP mouse.. It's called HP Gaming Mouse with VooDooDNA
Only, difference i can see is that the ASUS model is matte finish
http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/computer/categories/gaming/1/accessories/KZ630AA%23ABA
http://www.hardwaregeeks.com/index....review_hp_laser_gaming_mouse_with_voodoo_dna/

 

More decent pics...

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5427/g73open.jpg

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/4428/g73touchpad.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9927/g73top.jpg

 

thanks for the pictures! repped+

 

Gee Wiz Soviet Sunrise, I really think you are overthinking my post, so much so, I think you missed the message...... or you just like to argue, something, I don't know.....

Anyhow, I have been on pain meds for three days now, so let me pick 1/2 my brain off the floor, and briefly try this again.........

My point was this notebook is SPECIFICALLY being marketed with cooling in mind! The rampant speculation or fear-mongering solves nothing! We will know the answers soon enough..... and probably before they ship! What is the point is page after page of discussion of the unknown! Either it will run cool, or it will not, and if it doesn't, RETURN IT ASAP!

Now really, was that really hard for you? I mean GEEZ, all this worry is premature, really about nothing..... and if it does run hot, there are remedies.

Oh, and are you really interested in this notebook...... have you pre-ordered too..... just curious?

 

I see where you've gone with this, but why would ASUS do this? Unless the subwoofer is recessed from the hole to use the case of the laptop as some kind of echo/amplification chamber (which would be just plain silly), chances are that this speaker is close to the hole... which would obstruct airflow coming in. Also, the incoming airflow would fight the outgoing air of the subwoofer. Lastly, why cut corners like this? Why the hole sharing? Why not make a right-sized intake adjacent to the subwoofer's location?

 

Thanks for the pics Bro, but these things are HUGE! [scroll, scroll, scroll.....]

 

The sub speaker was set back slightly from the grill but not enough to be used for an air intake.

 

LOL! Got it, And, do you understand my point?

 

That's the aerodynamics they're talking about. I got tired of trying to explain it in words so I fired up MS Paint and doodled something.

 

I understand your point. But what I'm targeting is the poor concept that came out of your drugged up mind; the actual thermal design itself, not what it is marketed for. Like you and I said before, the notebook will run cool, it will chew through games, and it will be worth the wait everyone is dying for.

 

What these guys said.

 

Indeed. All being said I think the small vents will suffocate the fans. But, as striker said, either it will be cool or it will not be. We'll have to wait for some hands-on testing.

 

Lol @ Soviet - great drawing skills bud!

Just in case people missed the picture I posted from the display at CES:



I think that says it all.

 

That's what NBR was built on! *sniff, snif*

 

you actually uploaded this picture? first time seeing it.
ok that explains everything, so soviet was right.

 

Wow, I actually haven't seen this picture before. Anyway, I think it says how Asus is trying to get more hype for this notebook. There is no way the fans can produce that kind of airflow direction in the bottom right diagram. There are two radial fans in the notebook that suck in air perpendicular to it's exhaust direction. Both fans are most likely facing downward like the previous G series and every other conventional notebook. They will not suck air from the rear and blow out from the rear as there is only one entry point. That design is terribly inefficient, especially if the cooling system needs to tame the i7 and the MR 5870. That is probably an old concept that Asus's marketing team forgot to update and decided to slap it on the back of the notebook at the last second. Basically, that picture is lying.

Thanks for covering the G73 at CES, iaTa.

 

LOL! I'll shut up now, and just stare into the monitor..... all the pretty pictures.......

 

Sounds like a plan and may be the best course of action at this time ...

I enjoy all the speculation myself and Drake is honestly right, until any machine ships these are all things that people talk about over and over and over etc... ...

 

No probs, just a shame I couldn't get the 3DMark results.

Thinking about those diagrams it is feasible that those rear exhausts are split into two halves and it sucked air in from the bottom and pushed it out the top (or left and right).

Goes back to analyse own YouTube video.

 

I feel left out like I'm the only one that didn't preorder. I want to be part of the cool kids!