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    ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by iaTa, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. trentbg

    trentbg Notebook Consultant

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    Like I said before, the new concept is to get the air from under the keyboard, and as the article from notebookcheck is stating it is pretty effective, so no drama here, it will not need coolers...
     
  2. Partizan

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    It won't be cheaper, xoticpc told me the shipping cost would be 250 dollars. Oh and a nice bonus: the USA are not a member of the EEG (duh :d) so when I import this laptop I will need to pay 21% (belgian) taxes -_-'
    So, I think i'll wait for the prices to drop to around 1500€, patience is a virtue.
     
  3. euisungkim

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    nice. this is what I've been waiting for.
    this laptop is going to be fantastic :cool:
     
  4. euisungkim

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    Is there any way to get the laptop without paying the taxes? I don't think price is going to go down for a long time.
     
  5. bdms08

    bdms08 Notebook Guru

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    That might turn the internal fans into afterburners. :)
     
  6. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Well that depends on what you plan on doing with it. I'll need an external cooling solution. ;)
     
  7. MasqueradingTeabag

    MasqueradingTeabag Notebook Consultant

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    I have to pay taxes here in Australia as well, but 20% sheesh....Only 10% here. Plus, handling and whatnot.

    Things are certainly looking up and that 10% looks all the more justified.
     
  8. euisungkim

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    Mandrake, will you be doing reviews for G73jh?
     
  9. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    If I get asked to I will. I will definitely be doing lots of benchmarks and comparisons to the 4870s.
     
  10. trentbg

    trentbg Notebook Consultant

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    I really want to see what idea you are going to come up with for a cooler...
     
  11. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Only need a cooler on a "as needed" basis. Not something to use all the time.
     
  12. evensen007

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    Can't you guys get one of us here in the states to buy it for you and then ship it to you marked as "Warranty repair", "Review sample" or something like that? It sucks that you guys get raped by your local taxes and import!
     
  13. Mandrake

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    Imagine if the US had these import taxes. The world economy would collapse.
     
  14. mackloon

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    We would all be buying Macs
     
  15. Esso

    Esso Notebook Geek

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    Would that work? Very interested in this as i have indeed sent my money to a friend in USA and when he receives he is going to send it me. The thing is im in Ireland and if im not mistaken i will be hit with 22%.
    I would like to see what can i do to reduce it. They take the percentage of the value of packadge. The packadge has to have description about contents and value on the label. Do they actually open and check or just x-ray it? If the latter wouldnt just a reduced price on the label reduce the tax? Lets say he writes it is a used laptop 200$ worth. In a pickle here.
     
  16. DeweyJuice

    DeweyJuice Notebook Guru

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    Sounds possible if you put the laptop in a box from a used $200 laptop.
     
  17. 4nyh4|yst

    4nyh4|yst Notebook Enthusiast

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  18. MasqueradingTeabag

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    ^^ My understanding is they will want a copy of the receipt and in it will be the date of purchase and full value of the purchase. Besides if you're using a courier service you will have to insure it to its full value which also is a give away to its actual value. However, even though this doesn't apply in Australia, for some countries there are concessions or even exclusions form taxes if you can prove it is sent to you as a gift. Of course for this to be carries out smoothly your credit card or bank should not in any way be used for the purchase.

    Another option is if you're a temporary resident. In some countries if they deem something imported temporarily you'll get the goods tax free. Eh...

    Interesting point evenson007, and I shalt look into it....
     
  19. mackloon

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    Just read through the article. Looks good. 5.8 cm high though...this girl is thick, and big in the rear. how thick are the AW 17s on the backside?
     
  20. evensen007

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    I honestly think it would. Put a lower value, mark as "review/test sample" and also have him put "return within 10 days" or something similar to that. I think it has a very good chance of working.
     
  21. Esso

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    It would if i would go comercial shipping companies. As it stands my friends mother works in some logistcis company and she can ship it for me for less than 30$ or something.

    Thanks anyway ;) Any input is greatly appreciated to help me in this problem.

    Thanks for the ideas. Much appreciated. ^^
     
  22. Hydeo

    Hydeo Notebook Evangelist

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    Its not a guarenteed method to work. If I recall correctly, some shipping companies will disregard boxes marked as 'warranty repair' and such. Some customs will even go as far as taxing you even if those words are written on the box. However, this only occurs if its shipped from a retailer, not too sure if this happens if the return address is a residential address.
     
  23. lamakila123

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    Only problem I can see with that is if something happens to the box on the way their. I don't think you can ask the shipping company for $1600 for damaging a supposedly $200 item.
     
  24. cookinwitdiesel

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    about 2" thick on the dot
     
  25. Meever

    Meever Notebook Evangelist

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    I've sent a couple laptops to Europe and Korea saying its a gift for a penpal and got away without taxes. Might want to find someone you can trust in the states (preferably without tax) and get them to send it to you.
     
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    We just need some shady offshores exporter to join the forum and we are in business :D
     
  27. evensen007

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    I wouldn't mind trying for someone. If it is shipped and marked as return test sample or some such nonsense I don't see how they can charge an individual tax. Plus, no sales receipt needs to go in the package as you would have that electronically in an email.
     
  28. MasqueradingTeabag

    MasqueradingTeabag Notebook Consultant

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    ^^

    True, Evensen, but speaking from experience to clear anything in customs in Australia, you need send a copy of the invoice. I'm not sure if this is the same in other countries but over here they are pretty strict. Also it actually takes about 5-7 working days for the entire thing to process. It's stupid..-_-...You guys will be benching and gaming to your hearts content and I'll be paper pushing paying more for what I've already payed for. =P. Eh. Notebook seems worth it though.
     
  29. evensen007

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    Ok, so one of us could futz up a fake invoice and wah-la! The invoice could just say "No Charge, review sample. Return within 10 days". I feel bad that you guys get so over-charged in other countries. You'd think Asus could just sell and market it in your home country and make it more affordable than making you import it!?
     
  30. Partizan

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    Asus prices aren't bad, especially when compared to the alienware prices here in Belgium, but they are nonetheless still way higher than the ones in the US.

    I don't think one would have to pay taxes if he went to the usa, and just put the laptop in his lugage. The only thing one would need then, is a european adapter, instead of an american one.
    The repair service would probably be afwull though, imagine shipping your laptop trough mail all the way to the US, waiting for them to repair it, and then send it al the way back.
     
  31. evensen007

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    Well yea, but with the Asus Global warranty don't you have it repaired in your home country instead of having to ship it to the US? And also, it's probably not reasonable for most people to hop on a plane to buy a laptop in the states! haha
     
  32. cookinwitdiesel

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    Although it is often cheaper to do so lol

    Get a vacation and a laptop. But that is assuming you are not forced to declare the laptop upon re-entering your home country
     
  33. Esso

    Esso Notebook Geek

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    I will talk about these ideas to my friend. Thanks to all who contribute. All opinions valued. ^^

    I will let you know how it goes in the end.
     
  34. JCoelho

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    I was going to do that (buy from the US), but if I had to pay taxes, I would end up paying as much as if I bought it here. (I found a place selling them for 1600€).

    Asus warranty is global, so, no need to send it to the US.


    Crossing my fingers that the portuguese reseller still has one G73 of his first batch :D
     
  35. xoAmyox

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    I've even considered doing this, taking a short break to somewhere in the states and bringing it back on a plane, but I just cant justify taking that much holiday from work without taking an actual holiday lol

    I really need to know if you guys have any experience with UK customs at all? I've heard of the warranty repair declaration, but I need to weigh up all my options so I can safely get this without going into my overdraft (too much!) lol
     
  36. Hydeo

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    Actually all Asus adaptors are universal (100-240v) so all you would need to do is get a plug convertor and you'll be set.
     
  37. Donald@Paladin44

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    Since it would jeopardize a reseller's ability to export should they be caught shipping as a "gift" or under the warranty repair declaration, you will find few, if any, that will do it.

    The other problem with the warranty repair declaration is that when you ship to the US you are supposed to file a form so that Customs can then match it when the computer comes back. If you don't file that original form on the way out of your country it is unlikely that a warranty repair declaration (usually called a Commercial Invoice with nominal value declared...usually $20) would work anyway.
     
  38. MasqueradingTeabag

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    Sheesh, going through the custom procedures in Australia its seems the money I'll be paying is inconsequential compared to the amount of bloody form I'm going to have to fill to have it cleared from customs. It comes down to about 5 forms, copy of the receipt, two forms of identification and roughly 1.5 weeks of waiting. Just brilliant. Lol.... I'm actually considering going ahead with brokerage fees; although, I'm not quite sure how that works just yet....
     
  39. dtwn

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    Those of you discussing dodging customs duties are publicly suggesting fraud, which is against forum rules.
     
  40. Esso

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    Noted. Apologies. May mods do with this conversation how they see fit.
     
  41. hockeydude35

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    Hey everyone, I'm new here, though I've been watching this thread for a couple of weeks now. I'm hoping to jump on board with the G73 soon, though I'm trying to find out if any of the resellers offer any type of financing, such as Bill-Me-Later? I'm trying not to drop 2K all at once, if I can help it... :)
     
  42. mk1freak

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    Mandrake will you do a review please. :D
     
  43. dtwn

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    Not as far as I know, but I wouldn't mind one like that either. lol
     
  44. cookinwitdiesel

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    isn't that exactly what credit cards are for.....?

    bill-me-later type services will also be charging interest....
     
  45. dtwn

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    But you have a fair bit more time before interest starts accruing, no?
     
  46. cookinwitdiesel

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    I guess that is true. I know DPA is popular for Dell systems (wish I had a credit score as I would then use that lol)
     
  47. Justin@XoticPC

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    Here is a link to credit card offers, which some you will see have 0% for 1 Year.
     
  48. hockeydude35

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    See the problem with signing up for a new credit card is, will they give you enough credit to purchase a $2000 laptop? I would hate so sign up for one and only be given an initial credit line of like $1500.
     
  49. cookinwitdiesel

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    As a student I can get like $5k limit right now on a credit card....being able to afford a laptop should not be that big of a problem
     
  50. ynobody01

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    I read the hands-on preview for this laptop and I have to say that I'm impressed. I especially like how Asus listened to critiques on how poor the cooling was in G71 and G72, and they have made G73 with a new design that promotes cooling. They're going to need a lot of cooling for the 5870. Desktop ATI cards run really hot, so I wouldn't be surprised if their Mobility versions also ran hot.
     
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