ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

How firm do you guys think this price will be?Do you guys think it will go up any?

 

Unfortunately they've been saying that for a while now. Remember when they said the Intel G2 drives would drive down the price of other SSDs?....Never happened.

 

I'm no expert but it seems like ASUS actually changes models faster than it changes prices, so the only time there's a significant price change is when a replacement model is introduced and the "old" model is discounted. Given the way tech works I'd seriously doubt you'll see the price increase - that's just my opinion, however.

 

This will be my first laptop I cant wait.I was set on a new Xps 16 but the throttle drew me away.I love the way they look I seen a few on bestbuys website yesterday they didn't look to great

 

January blows, is it February yet? This is not trolling, I incite no flames, it was my shopping experience.

As someone who shopped around and was getting dissapointed with compromises until stumbling on the G73, I wanted to point out my shopping experince between the G73 and M17x. I needed a game/video editing capable laptop with an i7, 2 HDD bays, HDMI and a 1920 screen (1200 or 1080), so many laptops out there were quickly nullified. I had Toshiba, Asus and Alienware to look at. Price and config was what it was all about for me. I have confiqured similar setups with the M17 and G73 and the prices were just lopsided. Fortunately, I didn't need an ExpressCard, firewire, DP, etc. that the M17x has over the G73 (in fact, network, HDMI and USB filled the bill). The AW came with a 1yr warranty and didn't offer a 2yr, so I confiqured each to have the 3yr (AW has an edge with onsight, but $ is a factor). The AW has a 4870, G73 a 5870, time will tell if this is a good or bad difference. Asus has the 1yr accidental damage and 30day dead pixel, AW? There are other differences, like resolution (1200 vs. 1080), known frame strength and accessories, but the configs are close. Also, AW forcing you to install the game software (e.g. Steam) or you couldn't complete the order, what's up with that?


Asus G73JH-A1
17.3" FHD/ATI HD5870 GDDR5/i7-720QM/8GB DDR3/1TB 7200rpm/Blu-Ray/W7HP64
Optical Drive: 8X DVDRW DL Super Multi ($89.00) ($89.00)
External USB HD: None
Bluetooth: Built-in Bluetooth™ V2.0+EDR
WiFi: 802.11 Wireless a/b/g/n
Gaming Mouse: Included
Backpack: Included
Windows Recovery Disk and Drivers CD: Inclueded
30days Zero Bright Dot Guaranteed: Yes through Asus
Packaging: Shipping with Double Box
Warranty: Asus 3 Year Limited North America Warranty $89.00 $89.00
Asus Support & Service: 24/7 Toll-Free, Both Way Next Day Air Shipping
24/7 Support hotline: 1-888-678-3688 (except holidays)
Accidental Damage Warranty: http://adw.asus.com/content/adp/default.aspx
Webcam: Built-in 2.0 MP Webcam
Additional Battery: No Additional Battery
Hard Drive RAID Configuration: RAID- Disable
Car Adapter: None
Thermal Compound: Stock OEM Thermal Compound
CPU: i7-720QM, 1.60~2.80GHz, 2.5 GT/s, 45nm, 6MB, 45W
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit System Recovery DVD
AC Adapter and Battery: Included
Screen: 17.3 inch 16:9 1920x1080 FHD LED glossy
Secondary Hard Drive: 500GB 7200rpm SATA II
Primary Hard Drive: 500GB 7200rpm SATA II
Dead Pixel Warranty: Standard Manufacturer Dead Pixel Warranty
Additional AC Adapter: No Additional AC Adapter
GPU: ATI HD5870 1GB GDDR5, DX11
RAM: 8GB DDR3 1066 (2G X 4)
Availability: Pre-Order, ETA Feb. 10th.
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Alienware M17x
SYSTEM COLOR Space Black - Anodized Aluminum edit
PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ i7 720QM 1.6GHz (2.8 GHz Turbo Mode, 6MB Cache) edit
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English edit
WARRANTY AND SERVICE 3 Year Basic Serivce Plan edit
In-Home Service after Remote Diagnosis: for issues covered by Limited Hardware Warranty, technician and/or part will be dispatched, if necessary, usually in 1 or 2 business days following Remote Diagnosis. During Remote Diagnosis, you may be asked to access the inside of your system (where safe to do so) or to participate in troubleshooting until a cause can be isolated.
VIDEO CARD 1GB ATI Radeon™ Mobility HD 4870 edit
LCD PANEL 17-inch WideUXGA 1920 x 1200 (1200p) edit
MEMORY 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1066MHz edit
HARD DRIVE 500GB 7,200RPM SATA-II HDD edit
ADDITIONAL HARD DRIVES 500GB 7,200RPM SATA-II HDD edit
INTERNAL OPTICAL DRIVE Slot-Load Dual Layer DVD Burner (DVD+-RW, CD-RW) edit
WIRELESS CARDS Wireless 1520 802.11n Half Mini-Card edit
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ALIENFX COLOR Quasar Blue edit
AVATAR Alienhead 3D edit
WALLPAPER Alienhead 3D edit
PRE-INSTALLED GAMES Steam and Portal™ Factory Installed edit
My Accessories
ALSO INCLUDED WITH YOUR SYSTEM
SOUND OPTIONS Internal High-Definition 5.1 Surround Sound Audio
BLUETOOTH Internal Wireless Bluetooth® 2.1 with EDR
Adobe Reader Acrobat SW Adobe Acrobat Reader
POWER ADAPTERS 240 watt Adapter
AUTOMATIC UPDATES Automatic Updates: On
Standard Nameplate Trigger Standard Nameplate

$2,908



We'll see if I made the right choice. Come on mid February. My G73 preordered adds a better thermal compound and doesn't add the 3yr warranty for $1591.

Q

 

come on, stop comparing them. you guys are the same as alienware guys trolling in this thread if you guys keep comparing them and keep saying our deal is better or whatever.
Jesus. They both have their pluses and minuses.

 

Just wanted to congratulate somebody who was in the second shipment and is now moving up to the first!!!!
I sadly had to cancel my two preorders, hopefully they will be in regular supply sometime in March when I reorder mine...

 

Yeah besides that who would spend $3K on a system with an i7-720. Mine was cheaper than that.

 

Who did you order them from?

 

Nobody seems to be talking about one of the major advantages I see with the G73, which is that it has been designed from the ground up around proper airflow and cooling. The whole "stealth" look I think is a marketing pitch to make such a radical redesign palatable to most.

It's too soon to know, and I may end up eating crow, but if the design goals clearly intended are met this should be one of the coolest-running, longest-lasting high performance machines in many years from ANY manufacturer.

Everyone who has seen these in person remarks on the "massive" heat sinks in back, and the slice design is clearly intended to maximize cool air flow from the front, around the processors, through those heat sinks and out the back. One reviewer even mentioned the weight distribution is so back-heavy because of the heat sinks that you have to be careful how you try to lift and carry the G73!

Let's hope it all works as intended; it's a new and radical design, but it looks like it is the right one: move LOTS of air quietly and efficiently and keep those expensive goodies inside nice and brisk.

 

Assuming you are pointing your finger at me, I pointed out a large part of my shopping experience (other people are also shopping) and don't appreciate you lumping me in with trolling, I can add Toshiba findings if it will make you feel better. How useful is your comment on my post? If you have nothing constructive, move on. If you weren't pointing your finger at me, disregard and have a nice day

Not me, I didn't

I think you just made a couple friends.

It's a huge deal to me.

 

I LOVE the new design. I admit that if this still had the old design I wouldn't have pre-ordered. The "from the front" cooling initially to me sounds like a bad idea but I want to test it before passing judgment.

 

Why? It's the most direct given that you want hot air exiting the back, and having had the G51 just about melt stuff to the left and the N81 do the same with things (like my mousing hand!) on the right I'm thrilled ASUS went that way this time. What's the downside?

 

It's actually the perfect design for servers but those are designed to be lineup in server racks and not to have people sitting directly in front of them while typing at the location where air is supposed to enter. The straight shot of air from front to back is a great design assuming all that is in front of it is cool air...not warm bodies.

 

Gotcha! But I wonder... how close is your warm body actually to the front of the computer, and is your 98.6 enough of a delta over ambient to make much of a difference? I sit back at least 6-8 inches, and assume the amount of body heat that will influence the intake is minimal...?

 

It looks brilliant to me, I was wondering why it took so long. They seperated the 2 biggest heat sources about as far as possible and gave them their own fans and vents. Only trace length had me thinking it could be a disadvantage, but with a well placed HM55 it could be nulled. Even with longer traces, the cooling advantage would likely prove better for performance. From the front which is going to be clutter free since it's your view and only your body heat affecting it and out the back and away, just should be standard imo. Add the perfect flow cooler for it (still deciding and won't decide until I get my hands on it) and it should be the best cooling design out.

I wouldn't figure body heat to mean much, but should be mentioned. I know where my body is, I have something cooling me and that air will be sucked into the front.

 

What about your hands?

 

According to Mavis Beacon et al. they should be up off the keyboard parallel to the table except for your fingertips. Carpel tunnel says don't rest them on the keyboard or palm rest, either. But I know what you're saying, I just can't see it making that big a difference; certainly hope not. We shall certainly see.

 

Hmm, 73 degree air surrounding 99 degree hands sucked into a 110+ degree chassis cooling 140 degree components, I'll take my chances and say the worry is negligent. The front is going to be open, either side or the back for that matter may not be, so you will be getting the coldest input air possible unless you design something around it.

 

Both of mine were from XoticPC

 

It should actually make it easier to benchmark with if all you need is a box fan or portable AC unit sitting right in front when running the tests.

 

whoo hoo! move me up!

 

When is second shipment going out?

 

Good day,
I have been reading this topic for quite a while, and I'll probably also get the G73 laptop after reading all this. I do have one question - I'm thinking of getting a Tritton AXPC True 5.1 Surround Sound Gaming Headset. The question is, will the G73 work with it? The video for it : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnn0evOO7pg
Thank you

Edit: Sorry, just looked up the fact that G73 has an s/pdif, which works

 

yes.
10char

 

The estimated first shipment arrival date is February 10th, and a 2nd shipment is on the 17th.
it can change though.

 

I think Justin said the second shipment was the 17th.

 

Questions, questions, questions. Design, cooling, 3D Benchmarks..... endless speculation.

But guys. Surely there is one question that beats them all? Yes, the stealth design makes it look all 'stealth fightery'. Yes, the exhaust vents at the back look a lot like those on a stealth fighter....

Because of this I have only one question...... "When the processor is under heavy load are there red lights in the exhaust vents to make it look like its afterburners are on"?

 

What about real flames!

 

I have a question, is the new HD Radeon 5870 compatible with i7-620m?

 

GPU-CPU compatibility? Shouldn't make a difference why?

 

Well, I went to dells site and when I configured the m15x with the i7-620m and the gtx 260m, it said there were compatibility issues. So I'm wondering if the i7-620m is compatible with the radeon 5870 and wondering if asus will add the i7-620m as a choice of processors.

EDIT:I just wanted to make sure...

 

lol, I would hope if so, they would be lights and not the glow of a smoldering cpu

but you did just give me an idea for a light mod, where's my soldering gun

 

"compatibility issues", interesting, I wonder if they figure the 620 would hold back the 260 performance?

certainly no point to downgrading the cpu anyway, even if Asus offered it, you likely wouldn't save any decent amount of money since a reseller would have to swap it out.

 

I was wondering the exact same thing! Just wondering, Xellon... but have I seen you on the pcsx2 forums? And... would that, by chance, be partially the reason you're asking this question?

 

I was thinking the same thing,I don't know much about computers but ever since I started looking at dell things don't make sense.I have an example on alienware auoura they have the radeon 5870 with a 525watt power supply.I read that they need a stronger power supply so it makes me think if the i7 620 can go with the radeon 5870

 

i7 620m is Arrandale and i7 720~920XM is Clarksfield.

 

For me personally, I thought it would be nice to be able to use switchable gfx for (what I'm hoping) would be pretty decent battery life on-the-go. Also, since most of the apps that I'm running right now are optimized for dual-cores anyway, I thought that the 620m would be a better choice, if it was offered *fingers crossed* I realize that this probably wouldn't be a good future-proofing investment, but I would hope that by that time there would be another awesome laptop like this one on the market ^___^

Btw, I was not 100% sure about this, but can ANY laptop with the hm55 chipset use the switchable gfx properties of the 620m? Or does the manufacturer itself have to implement some sort of hardware to enable it?

 

Well if the listed battery life claims are true then you wont have to worry about switching over to a 620m... I believe there claim with just basic web browsing is 170 minutes which is just shy of 3 hours....

 

EDIT: Yes have same name and avatar

 

I don't think its necessarily downgrading. I mean, I like the 3.33 clock speed. I don't want to make the asus more then $1800us and the i7-720 is looking a little weak in quad mode.

 

But since it's an Asus, won't it have some kind of turbo key to OC by 10% or something?

 

There are memory compatibility issues between the 620 and 720 but no GPU issues I know of.

 

Guys, I'll be stuck buying this at Best Buy if they get it. From what I've read in other threads, it appears that the Best Buy model might not be the same as the A1/A2 configuration available in the pre-order. Does anyone have any comments/ideas/experiences in what might suffer if/when this machine ever does make it to BB?

Thanks!
Greg

 

Fair enough, while it is a technical downgrade, I can see your point about it being better suited to your needs (cost and application).

After some quick checking, I can't see it holding back a 260 so maybe euisungkim is on to something with architecture. If a 620 is your route though, maybe the G73 should just be a pass for you. If the 620 wasn't offered from the start, I doubt it will ever come to the G73, it would appear on a different model. Good luck on your search.

Q

 

resolution decrease / cpu downgrade / ram 4gb / 1yr GS warranty (well geek squad will help you... to make your laptop worse) / no accidental warranty / no bag, mouse..

 

On turbo boost quad mode, it can reach I think it was 1.73ghz (or something like that) on each core. so the 720 is only slightly faster if you were to render (correct me if I'm wrong).

Configure M15x HERE.

It says there is issues between 620 and gtx 260m. Unless they are wrong about it....??

 

May I ask why you would be stuck getting this at bestbuy

 

I can't comment on the turbo mode since I don't have an Asus (but I do plan on ordering this one). But at least it's like you get a free upgrade to an 820.

EDIT:

Probably because he doesn't want to buy online or wants the instant gratification of buying in-store.

 

"i7 620m is Arrandale and i7 720~920XM is Clarksfield," is why its not compatible? Either way, I'm would be happy with either one If I ignore something like emulation edit (pcsx2).

Thanks for everyones help