ASUS G752

Ok, cool. I didn't know that the SM951 didn't work with the Magician software. Thanks for clarifying that for me. I have the Pro 950 256gig now as well. Was thinking about returning it to get the SM951, but not sure I will if that won't work either.

I'm sure we will get the Pro 950 working soon. Like I said before, I'm working with Asus Tech support and they are passing all the info I give them, and already gave them to Asus's Bios team for them to look into this for us and get a working solution, or fix. They are going to keep me in the loop and let me know what's going on as I have a Case # for this too.

Don't worry about the English, it's good enough that we can tell what you are trying to say. Thanks for the effort in trying to help out. The more we get, the sooner it should be fixed.

 

Your English is better than most of the Americans I know. Sad, but true.

 

So does anyone know of any NVMe drives that actually work with the G752? I can't see Asus designing this thing without having a drive that does work properly. They had to have something that they tested when they built the laptop and it worked properly. Right by the m.2 slots it says PCI-e only, so you can't use m.2 Sata drives. I'm kinda confused to why they would build a laptop with 2 slots for PCI-e drives, yet there isn't one on the market that actually works right. Doesn't that seem pointless? HA!!

Samsung is like the only maker of a PCI-e ssd that is 3.0, I see others that are 2.0 but those are a lot slower.

Also, Look at this interesting piece of hardware http://www.startech.com/HDD/Adapters/Dual-mSATA-SSD-to-2-5-SATA-RAID-Adapter~25SAT22MSAT .. HIDevolution has this as an add in option for the G752. I wonder if using one of these is the way that you can do a raid setup? Other than something like this, I don't understand why our bios is stuck in Raid mode. You can't raid the m.2 slots. There is only 1 2.5" spot. So how is it possible to do a raid or why would our bios be in raid? This is getting so ridiculous lol.

I just got off the phone with a sales person at Xotic PC and OMG was this lady nuts!! She kept making all kinds of crazy sounds with her mouth, kinda like a noise you would make towards an animal to get it to come to you lol. nic nic nic nic nic nic. Then she would say WOW, every 30 seconds like she found a miracle lol. She got me no where and couldn't answer anything I wanted to know. She is going to call me back in the morning once she talks to the guys that actually open the laptops and install upgrades. I just wanted to know that the drive was installed correctly before I bought one, but shh!! I already have mine LOL. Trying to dig the info out of them any way I can.

I have a question for anyone that has the G752xx .. Have any of you been able to change Raid in the bios to any other option? I'm going to pull both SSDs out and put the stock 1tb mechanical drive back in and see what options I can get. With only the stock drive in it, there's no way it should be stuck in Raid. I'll report back with my findings.

I swear guys, I'm really trying HARD to find a way for us!! I want this to work just as bad as we all do!!

 

Right, around $2k sounds better. Found it in a few online stores...

 

I only paid $1399 brand new for my G752VT

6700HQ
Gtx970m 3gb
16gb DDR4 2133mhz
1tb 7200rpm mechanical drive

I added a Samsung 950 Pro 256gig, and a 850 Evo 500gig.
That's another $189 + $139, so +$330 for a total of $1730

I'm really to the point of just taking back both drives and getting the Samsung 850 Evo 1tb and just installing that with windows. The Evo is pretty much just as fast as the 850 Pro, and sometimes faster in many reviews I've seen. Then the Magician software can use 4gb of system ram and make the drive 2x faster with caching and the laptop will scream!! I installed windows to the 500gig Evo and it feels way more snappy than the OS on my 950 Pro without proper drivers. I'll wait till Asus fixes the issue and then go back to the 950 Pro.

If I do this move to the 1tb Evo, I will still do everything I can to get a fix working for the NVMe drives and won't let this go. I won't just say F it and let you guys suffer LOL. I already put so much time into trying to get it fixed, it would be dumb for me to stop now.

 

Nice deal, I just can't find one with your specs, but 980m , under 2000$(in EU)...

 

Same here. I'm looking only for the VY (with 980m) and the cheapest I can find it is $1999 with 16Gb RAM, 128Gb SSD + 1Tb HDD

 

I picked up a VL for $1298. I didn't care about the graphics because I'll be using an eGPU through the Thunderbolt 3 port (which is the main reason I bought one of these). And since I can (theoretically) add my pick of SSD's instead of being stuck with the crap they install at the factory I think I saved a few hundred bucks anyway. I have until Jan. 31 to send it back so if Asus hasn't got their **** together by then I may look elsewhere. I'd rather not though.

 

Yeah, I hear ya on not wanting to send it back. I love Asus products to begin with. The main reason I really want to keep this laptop is because of G-sync. I have a sick desktop I built with a 4790K @ 5ghz 1.350v ( I won the silicon lottery BIG TIME ) , a Titan X @ 1500mhz / 7800mhz on a custom vbios I made for 125% power limit but everything else the same as it comes so it will throttle if it needs too, but that's only if I push past 1530mhz. Has 32 gigs of DDR3 2400mhz c10 (4x8gig) , 6x 256gig ssd's in Raid 0 for a 1.5tb OS / Games drive which maxes out 1600mb/s read and 1300mb/s write. Asus Maximus 6 Formula mobo. Everything is on water with a 480mm Monsta rad and 2x 360mm XT45's, 2x D5 pumps inline for safety / backup. Custom painted Thermaltake Core X9 case that I did for the ROG red / black theme. I have this system hooked up to a Asus Swift ROG 2560x1440 144hz G-sync monitor, and after having G-sync and playing on this for the past 8 months or so, I just can't give up G-sync for gaming. It's such a nice feature that I don't want to give up.

That's the main reason I want to keep the G752, plus the fact that it's a 75hz monitor and we get a extra 25% more FPS with G-sync locked at 75fps instead of 60fps like most other laptops.

I just took back the Pro 950 and the 850 Evo 500gb drives, and picked up the 1t 850 Evo instead. I just got done installing windows 10 64-bit on it and all my programs I need. I'm installing my games now. The Magician software is running PERFECTLY and I also enabled the RAPID feature. With RAPID enabled, I'm getting 5643mb/s read and 4901mb/s write speeds in the Magician Benchmark. With ATTO I got 5400mb/s read and 4200mb/s write speeds. It feels WAY BETTER now than with my OS installed on the Pro 950 and not having the drivers installed correctly. That drive just didn't feel right even though it was getting 2300mb/s read and 970mb/s write speeds in ATTO. I will wait for Asus to come out with a new bios that supports the 950 Pro and then I will pick one up again and I will have the 850 Evo in there as well for my games.

Right now on the 850 Evo, the Magician software says that the drive isn't in ACHI mode and could be running better. So it's not only the NVMe drives that are messed up from the bios, but even a normal Sata III ssd can't switch from RAID mode being locked in the bios. How the hell Asus even released a G series laptop with a bios that isn't working correctly at all with any type of drive just boggles my mind. I just can't believe they would think that was OK to release like that, or they were that BLIND to not see this.. If that passed through their whole company of techs and not one of them caught that, they seriously need a new supervisor in some department there. I'm about to make another call to Asus Tech support and open another case # regarding ACHI mode not being there in the bios to be an option for using the dame stock drive it came with, or any 2.5" SSD either. How the hell could it not have ACHI?? LMAO!!

I will stay on them about the NVMe drives even tho I don't have mine right now. I get a Christmas bonus this Friday and if it's as big as I think it's going to be, I will just buy another Pro 950 this weekend. I think I will buy a 512gb one tho and I will be set nicely with that and the 1tb 850 Evo. That's way more than enough space for my needs. I'll be able to install almost every game I have in my steam and origin library, oh and uplay, and rockstar, and gog for witcher 3 lol. Why does there have to be so many game programs these days? lol. It's getting out of hand now.

 

Nice desktop you built. I used to build high-end watercooled machines like that and overclock the **** out of everything. But the hardware is so fast now it's really unnecessary - though still fun no doubt. Back in 2001 I built a RAID 0 SCSI machine running two 18GB Seagate 15,000 rpm drives (X15 Cheetahs) and I think I spent somewhere between $1500 and $2000 just between the drives and the controller. It sounded like a jet taking off - LOL! Those where the days. We sure have come a long way since then when you consider what you're getting for the money.

I think you made the right move taking the 950 back because it will probably be a while before Asus fixes their horrible mess of a BIOS. I would take my 950 Pro back too but I got it on a weekend sale at Fry's for $178 - so I think I'll keep it. I don't even use the G752 - it's just sitting on my table gathering dust. I have a G750JW with an 850 Pro in it that I use as my main machine. It's plenty fast for what I need it for.

Thanks again for your efforts with Asus support.

 

Your desktop is similar to my notebook/desktop hybrid machine Same monitor too, it is hard to go back from g-sync.

 

What notebook do you have that is similar to a 5ghz Core i7 / 1500mhz Titan X / 6x SSD Raid 0 , water cooled desktop? I want one of THOSE instead of my G752 LOL . Do you have the Asus GX700 water cooled laptop? I'd love to have that one!! That's one sick laptop, but not really a LAP-top hahaha

Off topic a little, but does anyone know how I can start posting on ROG forums? I made a profile a week ago, and activated it via email. It will not let me post or reply at all for some reason. Down at the bottom of the page is says BB code is on, and couple other things, but going through all the settings I can't see where to disable or turn that off or anything about the other couple things it says. I'd really like to be able to post on that forum as well, but I'm lost as to why I can't. Any help would be much appreciated

 

I have the GS30 with a titan-x in the dock that I fitted my own custom loop into, the GX700 is a similar concept but more consumer friendly

 

Ah, nice! Before I bought this G752VT, I had the Alienware 15 R2 for a couple weeks, but ended up returning it because it kept loosing the 2nd (2.5") hard drive. Which means I lost all my games, and also my work files that I needed. Loosing my work files when I needed to pull up a print for a certain job was a complete NO GO. It happened 4 times in the 2 weeks that I had it so I had no choice but to return it and then got the G752. That Alienware had the " Graphics Amplifier " and I was planning on getting it when I upgraded my desktop to a Pascal gpu when they came out and I would then put my Titan X in it and it would power my laptop when at home. It was a cool thought and would have been pretty cool, but that graphics amplifier only ran the gpu at 4x PCI-e and that's a little low for the Titan X IMO. I would be bothered by that with how I am with PC components LOL. I like everything to be running as fast as it can or faster, and with the lowest temps possible. That's why I'm a big custom water cooling fan. I go WAY overboard with the custom loops I do for myself. My current desktop would be just fine running 1x 360mm rad and would cool my cpu / gpu / mobo decently, but I have 2x 360mm XT45's and also a 480mm Monsta rad. It's a little overkill, but at least I don't have to worry about heat LOL.

Any pic's you can share of your custom loop on the external setup you have? I'd be interested to see something cool like that. I have lots of pics on Overclock.net of my current build in my build log which is in my sig. Same name on OCN.net as I use here.

I just hope that Asus doesn't drop the ball on that GX700 and it ends up with the same issues as our G752's with the NVMe and ACHI hard drives. I would be insanely pissed off if I spent $5,000 on a top of the line Asus water cooled laptop and the hard drives didn't even run the way they should. I still can't believe our bios is locked in RAID mode like it is. SMH so bad at you Asus!!

 

You can find the pics in the MSI section, I don't want to drag the thread off topic

 

Hey guys, I'm making a thread over on Overclock.net about the G752 and everything about it. It will have all the info of specs, upgrade options, overclocking, gpu vbios flashing tools and tips, and anything else that I, and you guys can share to add in. I will update the OP with info as I get it from anyone willing to share. It will also have the issues we are seeing, fixes that come up that will help us out and just anything to cover as much as possible. It is late where I am and I have just started it for now, but I will be adding much more tomorrow, but I wanted to let you guys know. I would love to see some of you from here come on over and share your thoughts. It will also be a thread where we can just have fun with things we do with the G752. Don't think that it has to just be strictly all business. We need some fun as well to keep us having a good time

Here's a link to the thread I started.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1584836/asus-g752-rog-gaming-laptop-performance-tweaks-upgrades

 

Don't be afraid to open up a similar copy here

 

And, on the Asus ROG site, that is the best place for G752 and Asus related postings, a larger community dedicated to ROG products.

I think you mentioned you couldn't get approved for an account, I PM'd you there...

 

Yes a larger community that justify a beta product and don't give a true spec inside its manual : (

 

What specs are you looking for?

 

I wasn't speaking about ROG staff, I was talking about the owners like you and I that interract there and share problems and solutions.

There are some things in the modern world that have become self-evident. A product paper manual is always generic, and out of date. And, the software included with and installed on an electronic device needs to updated right after opening

Asus has a habit of listing all the spec's for all the configurations of a laptop model in 1 list. They do this because every region gets different pack'ins based on what is ok to ship in each country - but that makes it tough to know exactly what is in the laptop you will get.

You need to actually look at the box and the parts listing label on the edge of the brown box. That is the definitive list of what is actually in the laptop - not the maker info - the size / capacity info.

It's frustrating, but I ask the seller to send me a quick photo of that label before buying. Or, even better, I buy from a local retailer where I can look at the label before I purchase, and open and test it on onsite at the retailer before walking out the door with it.

If you read any of the forums about recently released / shipping product from Clevo, MSI, HP, Asus, etc, all the users are complaining about some form of driver or performance issue with their new laptops.

NVME isn't performing as desired, Skylake CPU's aren't overwhelming with performance as compared to the previous CPU's, Windows 10 has a myriad of problems - it's always this way when new tech and new OS's requiring new drivers coincide, it's a tough time to be a new laptop user.

If you want to wait through the "beta" period, take back your laptop and wait 6 months, and then dip your toes back into the new laptop realm - or the 6 month old laptop realm - and things will be a bit better

 

Hey guys. GREAT NEWS. It's not about the NMVe drive, but it's about the new modded vBios I have for the G752 with a 970m. The new vBios is AWESOME!!!

Nvidia Inspector was locked at only 135mhz core and only 25mv voltage.

New vBios allows 810mhz core and 212mv voltage!!

I have ran Firestrike at 1250mhz core and 6005mhz mem and now getting 7895 total score, 9118 gpu score.. If you want the bios, just come over to my G752 Performance thread on Overclock.net and everything is there for you to flash the gpu and the new vBios. HAVE FUN!!

 

where you took this bios?

Is official?

Where is the overclook link?

 

Also wold it work for the G751? The 970M's are the same right?

 

Not sure if it will work on the G751 to be honest??? You would need to look into that more. I was looking at vBios that were for the G751 models and it said those wouldn't work for the G752's. I don't want to chance bricking your laptop so I can't say for sure.

It works 100% for the G752 tho!!

PM me on Overclock.net and I have a vBios for you that I made and it's great!! Search for G752 performance thread and you will find my thread.

Or http://www.overclock.net/t/1584836/...ios-performance-tweaks-upgrades#post_24721464 This will take you there

 

Since the Vbios is accessible by itself then it will likely work, but I would double check with the OP of the linked thread to be sure.

 

Does it have blu-ray burner or just the regular dvd?

 

That depends on which model you order.

 

The VY-DH78K

 

The G752VY-DH78K is the highest specification G752 model, and includes lots of stuff. I would assume the most expensive top end Asus full size 17" laptop would have a Blu-ray writer - and it does

Google search for G752VY-DH78K
https://www.google.com/search?q=g752VY-DH78K+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

First result is the Asus site page for the G752VY-DH78K

ASUS ROG G752VY-DH78K Intel i7 2.7GHz 64GB Memory 512GB SSD + 1TB HDD GTX980M 8GB Thunderbolt 3 Gaming Laptop
http://store.asus.com/us/item/201510AM090006013/A38824

The last 1/5 of the page, near the bottom - Specifications:
...
Optical Drive
6X Blu-ray RW

This is also the only model that has the 8GB version of the 980m.

There are only a couple of games that use over 4GB, but more may be on the way, so I made sure to get an 8GB 980m SLI model, MSI GT80.

Speaking of the MSI GT80S SLI-002, SLI-012, SLI-072, they would be a better choice for the cost.

For less than the cost of the G752VY-DH78K, you could get 2 x 980m 8GB GPU's, which puts the $ into the parts you want for gaming performance improvement.

But, the Asus is nice too

If you want to spend that much on an Asus, I would wait for the Asus GX700 980 mobile desktop GPU - also 8GB, and get one of those.

Have fun

 

hmscott, Oh man the GT80 is a BEAST!! But it's too bulky for my taste. As for GX700, I don't like the fact that you have to use water cooler. I did cosider buying GT72 though. I have been using GX660R for 5 years now. I bought nx500 last year and although it's much nicer than my old laptop, it's got only 512GB SSD and the speakers suck. I was gonna get the new XPS 15, but from what I've read it's too buggy, so I thought I'd go with g752. Decisions! Decisions!

 

Asus keeps raising the prices for the same thing with essentially the same gaming performance.

The G751 - except for the audio - is probably the same performance - the new Skylake CPU's aren't enough faster to make any gaming difference.

The only drag is the 4GB VRAM on the Asus 980m's, it's not like it would add that much to the price, but for longevity sake, I would feel better with 8GB VRAM.

The GT80 is actually "light" for an 18" screen laptop. The weight isn't that much more than my G750JH. The 230w supply was smaller than the 330w, and that adds a little weight too.

The GT72S's are nice too, but they are charging way too much for the 980 mobile desktop model, but it is less $ than the Asus model you are interested in

It's a tough call, hard to switch brands, but so far the MSI GT80 is excellent, as I would assume the GT72S 980 mobile desktop GPU model would be as well.

Let us know what you end up getting

 

Yeah, I know Asus products are a bit overpriced, but I really like the g752 design. I wonder if it's wise to buy a laptop now when knowing that Pascal and Kaby Lake will become available later on this year? Sure, I need a new laptop, but I guess I can wait a bit longer. : P

 

Every day you wait, is a day you aren't gaming on your new laptop...

It's unknown when the Pascal / Kabylake mobile solutions will come out. It could be longer than expected.

There were people waiting for the Skylake release before buying, and now they find bugs to resolve, a new OS with bugs to contend with, and not that much improvement compared to Haswell / Broadwell.

It's not necessarily true that waiting is the best idea.

 

It's an endless cycle with these things, the current machines game very well, that's for sure.

 

To be perfectly honest, I am little unimpressed with G752 reviews. That's what been holding me back.

 

Which ones? URL's?

I have been noticing that the reviews for all laptops lately have had poor scores in benchmarks. It's not just Asus. The Skylake parts just aren't producing the scores I would expect.

A good part of it is BIOS tuning, my 5950HQ took a few months of BIOS upgrades before I was stable at 4.2ghz. And my G750JH also benefited from early BIOS tuning, the first 3-6 months.

The Clevo PM870DM with the 6700k is one that is improving greatly from BIOS tuning. Even so the Firestrike Physics scores have been below mine on the Broadwell 5950HQ - even at lower clock rates. The wprime numbers are better on the 6700k at higher clock rates. Not sure why Skylake doesn't like the 3dmark programs... other 3dmark tests are scoring lower too.

Let me take a look at the reviews, which parts of them are you concerned about?

 

Hello everybody!

There is a new BIOS for the G752VY out (208) which update IRST
Hopefully it fixes some issues
http://www.asus.com/support/Download/3/833/0/3/6S3ctFvXVIePKB4o/45/

 

Thanks for this. Nothing for the VL yet, unfortunately. Anyone with a VY tried it out yet? Makes since they would release the new BIOS starting with the flagship model. Hopefully us cheapies will get some love in the near future.

 

Well one of the problems with the G752 reviews that I've seen is that ASUS sends VT models (970M) which reviewers then benchmark against competing models with a 980M. As silly as it is, ASUS only have themselves to blame - seriously why not send VY models out for reviews?

Skylake is really weird I agree. First there was the Anandtech review which showed desktop Skylake falling behind Haswell, and now mobile Skylake is showing the same strangeness. I've seen people claim it's to do with memory bandwidth, but why would 2133 DDR4 be a problem? If it is the problem well that's bad because that's what notebooks are shipping with, and I'm pretty sure it's the highest "officially supported" speed with Skylake.

It definitely makes Skylake itself seem quite meh, the only benefit seems to be the improved platform but that doesn't seem worth the $$ all by itself. Maybe Kaby Lake will fix all of this.

 

Skylake uses lower clocks (at least many laptop cpus do).
If you look at the chart at the beginning of that test ( http://www.notebookcheck.net/Skylake-for-Notebooks-Core-i7-6700HQ-and-i7-6820HK-Review.150864.0.html ), you can see that haswell CPUs use a higher turbo boost (i.e. I7 6700HQ 4C turbo: 3.1Ghz, the haswell competitor I7 4720HQ 4C turbo: 3.4Ghz) That is almost a 10% difference, that cannot be undone by the increased IPC power of Skylake.
DDR4 ram is a little bit faster than DDR3 ram, but only a few percent.
Skylake has the advantage when it comes to longer turbo usage times, as Haswell tends to run into the 47W TDP limit more often than the Skylake models ...
Skylake is more energy efficient, but doesnt really offer more power.

 

Hmm interesting. I wonder if Intel is disappointed with how 14nm ended up. It doesn't seem like they got as much out it as they did with the move from 32nm to 22nm.

 

Then again haswell tended not to maintain the boost clocks all the time as it was even under normal loads.

 

Tested new bios version but nothing of special about it...

No unlocked featuer inside bios, I'm still unable to create a pciex raid.
Also I tried to download from intel site the lateste version of chipset driver and I don't find any download for skylake cpu windows 10 driver...

Any help for this?

Thanks

 

found and no update on the chipset software side

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/25094/Chipset-Intel-Chipset-Device-Software-for-Intel-NUC

the real question is what asus update if nothinig is changed?
Also with crystaldiskmark no changes are applied two my two 950 pro m.2 512mb and also samsung magician don't recognize the the two ssd and the driver installation from samsung site still fail...

 

Thanks for the info. I'll give it a couple more weeks and then I'm returning mine. Too bad, it's a nice laptop but the BIOS is junk.

 

They are not overly specific with their bios release notes it has to be said :/

 

The previous models typically also didn't have any unlocked features in bios, so I don't expect this one will have either.

 

While that is true the new booting standards, especially over this period of transition could do with a few more options.

 

Hello again!

I'm not sure but I would say there is a new driver for the 950 Pro out (Version 1.1) or maybe even longer.
Before it was 1.0 If I'm not mistaken.
http://www.samsung.com/global/busine...downloads.html
Has anyone tested it out?

Greetings