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    ASUS G752

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by W4rrioR, Aug 27, 2015.

  1. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    It works about the same, usually the changes are related to bug fixes and perhaps performance enhancement occasionally.
     
  2. cucubits

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    I did it! I did it!

    I can't believe how long it took me to decide and buy a thing already. I've been back and forth here on the forums for months now trying to make pro/con lists and deciding which is a smarter buy. Some will say that was time wasted not gaming but in my case it wasn't. My good old G75VX still runs almost everything with lower settings/resolution.

    Because I just couldn't justify to myself the price difference between the two generations of high end models, I ordered the G751JY-WH71 with ~$1.5k. Also I don't really care about the 752 design/color choice so I'm happy.

    It's getting delivered today, I can't wait to get my hands in it. First and only upgrade is replacing the stock 128Gb SSD with a 500Gb Samsung EVO. On this topic (probably relevant to the 752 owners too), when upgrading to another SSD straight from the box, is there a reason to clone Windows 10 or just do a fresh install?
     
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    Always backup the out of the box configuration, if only to preserve it for reinstall when debugging problems with the vendor (Asus).

    Contray to popular belief, there is no performance improvement gained by reinstalling from scratch, from MS media the OS and then installing all the drivers and apps required to get back to the same functionality you had out of the box.

    It's best to simply uninstall the cruft from the out of the box configuration, it's much quicker than going through the hassle of a from scratch install - minutes vs hours - including the collection of all the software you blew away by reformatting the disk containing the recovery image...

    Oh yeah, don't reformat the disk containing the Recovery Image :)

    That would be like throwing away the DVD's containing the system restore image - which we don't get any longer.

    Use the Asus Backtracker app to create a USB 3.0 recovery drive.

    I haven't made one since Windows 8.1 on a G750JH, so double check what you need to do that today - back then it was a 16GB USB 3.0 flash drive. But for my GT80 I needed a 32GB USB 3.0 flash drive, so double check what you need to backup Windows 10.

    And, congrats on your new G751, you saved a bunch of cash and got essentially the same or better performance as the G752.

    Also, I don't know for sure, but I heard the Asus Windows 10 image for the G751 might be an upgrade image from Windows 8.1, someone said they found a Windows.old folder on their system fresh out of the box.

    Would you please double check in the system settings if you can revert to Windows 8.1 - it's a feature of the Windows 10 upgrade - you can go back to Windows 8.1 within 30 days of the upgrade.

    How to uninstall Windows 10 and go back to Windows 7 or 8
    Did you upgrade to Windows 10 and regret it? You can go back to your older operating system in a few clicks.
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/2960...windows-10-and-go-back-to-windows-7-or-8.html

    You might get to be able to run Windows 8.1 from the Asus Windows 10 image :)

    BTW, the Haswell CPU is OC'able with Intel XTU, while the new Skylake 6700HQ is multiplier locked. :)
     
  4. HelloThere

    HelloThere Newbie

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    I'm considering buying this notebook. I currently have an Asus G73JW. The only two issues I had with my laptop were the following:

    1) After a short period of time, my battery would no longer hold a charge. The computer will just shut off after several minutes of being unplugged. I replaced the battery and the same thing happened after a short period of time of having the battery.

    2) The touchpad is really jumpy and unusable. My dad also had a different Asus computer for a short period of time and had a similar issue.

    I was hoping these issues have been resolved by Asus over the last several years. Does anyone have any input on whether I should expect any of these issues? Also, what kind of battery life should I expect on this computer?

    Thanks!
     
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    An beginners question from the novice....

    1) Does g752 HDMI give 1080p signal to my brand new full hd tv. Just asking cos my 4 yearl old lappy can only give 720 out.

    2) Is there any way to give out 5,1 sound? for G752 to the 5.1 tv or 5.1 bluray?
    External HD does help put it is slightly annoying to swap it between lappy and bluray (HDMI).
    Thanks in advance!
     
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  6. Meaker@Sager

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    1) Yes no issue.
    2) Through the optical SPDIF or HDMI if your device is capable of it.
     
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  7. Alex555

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    Is it possible to remove the blu ray drive and replace it with a second 2.5" HDD/SSD?
     
  8. pigulici

    pigulici Notebook Guru

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    I am not sure, but I want to do it, mine just come yesterday, I stil not power up, no time for now...
     
  9. Kevin

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    Are the speakers better on this one? The G751's were dreadful.
     
  10. kabalanjr

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    in terms of quality yes, but how loud? my g750 is much louder compared to this machine.
     
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  11. praetorianx

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    Hey guys!
    Just got a European G752 with 8Gigs of DDR4 RAM. Need to upgrade it to 16.
    Anyone knows which one should I buy? Is there any voltage limitations , like on G751?
    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Why? It was a great review. The system memory is OC'd as is the 980m and gives much better FPS results than the other single 980m laptops. It runs cooler, and runs longer on battery. The only drawback is extra weight from the better vapor cooler and price.
     
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    Yeah, the extra weight; the vapor cooling wasn't that impressive and of course price. I really fancied the design, but now I am certain this machine is not for me. Although, I am not considering MSI anymore, I still find them a better value.
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    What are you considering instead? You are being mysterious :)

    Don't tell me, a Clevo... :rolleyes:
     
  17. scorpio187

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    Let's see what Apple has in store for us in 2016 ;)
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Apple probably won't offer a gaming class laptop or desktop...they never have, so I don't see why they would change now.
     
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  19. scorpio187

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    Don't worry. You'll be the first one to find our the moment I get a new gaming rig!
     
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    pato Notebook Evangelist

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    They are finally appearing in stores in Switzerland :) So far I haven't seen the highest model configuration with 8GB GPU memory and I7-68xx cpu. I wonder how expensive that one will be.
     
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    Hello guyz

    First of all, I would thank you in advance for taking your time to answer me. I'm a little bit newbie in PC Gaming so i will ask for your kindness.

    I plan on buying a G752VY-RH71 @ 1,850$ (the best price i found on all the internet) on a physical store. It has a GTX 980M with 4GB of VRAM and 16GB DDR4 but still, i have a few questions about this version :

    1- In the review Notebookcheck did ( http://www.notebookcheck.net/Xotic-PC-Asus-G752VY-Notebook-Review.158415.0.html) someone said in comments that this version, according to Asus support, doesn't have the "3D Vapor cooling". Has it or not, or was he talking about the one sold by Xotic PC ?

    2- The same guy said that the more expensive versions had better battery than this 8-cells ?
    Is it true ? Is it really a 8 or 6-cells because i found versions of G752VY with 6-cells battery like this one : http://www.materiel.net/ordinateur-...067T+-+i7+-+SSD+-+GTX+980M+-+G-Sync#FicheDesc

    3- Will it be possible in the future to replace the 980M GTX 4GB by something better ? Is it a "MXM component " so i will just have to buy a better MXM GPU or is it soldered on the motherboard ?

    4 - And the last question will be , 4GB of VRAM for the 980M GTX will it be enough for at least 2 years for now on ? On forums they say that for now it's enough but videogames developers doesn't feel like they have to optimize the use of it and probably it will not be better anytime soon.

    5- I'm comparing it with the Alienware 17 R3 @2000 $ on their website (by shipping this time).
    This one has a 8GB 980M GTX . Why would you advice me the Asus instead of the Alienware?
    And with this 3D Vapor Cooling do you think the Asus has a better cooling than the R3 17 ? How about the Alienware 17 R3 cooling (yes ,so sorry i know that we are in a Asus section of the forum ...)

    Thank you very much again for your attention.

    edit: i added one last question, i promise it will be my very last question !
     
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  22. pigulici

    pigulici Notebook Guru

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    From what I know(I have G752VY-GC144T), all G752VY have the "3D Vapor cooling", often the support level 1 know less than us...
     
  23. Alex555

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    Hey,
    1) apparently, not all G752VY models have the 3D Chamber ( http://www.asus.com/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-G752VY/), (it says: "Disclaimer: Available on selected model with GTX980M Graphic")
    The review unit had 3D Chamber cooling (proof is the bigger copper heat pipe)
    3) Nope, on the G752 both the GPU und CPU are soldered to the motherboard - no chance for upgrading.
    4) Depens on your usage : If you want to play in 4K/2k, then 4GB may be too little - 1080P might be fine today, but in future it could become a bottleneck - nobody knows.
    My opinion of the G752VY (having seen the review) : Bitter disappointment. The ASUS Rog G Series is/was famous for its outstanding cooling - pretty low temperatures and a quiet laptop.
    The G752VY is going the wrong way, because the competitors offer higher upgradability (the GT72 series offers MXM GPUs, one clevo series offers both swappable CPU and GPU)
    and better maintenance. And now the ASUS G752VY has lost its biggest advantage - quiet cooling.
    After this review, i´m pretty sure that i will go with the MSI GT72, as now it is even quieter than the ASUS G752VY, offers better maintenance and upgrading options and offers a better value.
     
  24. jrwingate6

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    If you overclocked the 980m on the other laptops then the FPS results would roughly be the same.
     
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    You need to compare via the reviewed numbers, not saying you could do this or do that, especially if you haven't done it.

    All the 980m's can theoretically perform the same, not all do. If you can get a desired performance out of the box, many people will do that - and not OC.

    Asus make great laptops, quiet and reliable, and after many years of watching all the brands perform, Asus is still on top for reliability and performance.

    I have had 7 of my own and set up many others, and only 1 had an RMA'able problem - GPU got flakey after 6 months - and it took 2 weeks total to get it repaired.

    If you are going to play the 1 up game, chasing the fastest laptop you can get, you are going to spend a lot more money, and spend a lot more time making it happen - it might become an all consuming hobby - and that's nice if that is what you are looking for, but most people have other things in their lives.

    The Asus G752GY are premium solid laptops, and confirming it outperforms other reviewed laptops at out of the box settings is just part of the picture, a very nice part.

    MSI makes great Laptops too. :)
     
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  26. jrwingate6

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    I'm not debating any of that.....All I'm saying is that the review was comparing a 980m which was overclocked by a 3rd party seller (Xotic PC) to other 980m's still running at factory clock speeds. It's just Apples and Oranges.
     
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    The Asus ROG G752 is a slightly slimmed gaming giant

     
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    I know it's not for everyone but I love the look of the G752. The copper and gunmetal go great together.

    I am actually debating on buying one but I just can't stop buying MSI's. If the G752 came with MXM graphics then I'd probably buy one without thinking twice. I always upgrade my GPU's one cycle and then buy a new laptop every other cycle.
     
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    Asus Republic of Gamers G752 - disassemble and inside look - Timelapse

     
  30. pigulici

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    Too fast, the camera it is bad positioned(the hands cover a lot of imge/work), he doesn't know where are all screws(it is like he have first time disassembled this model), almost not useful this video, and you need a 3th hand at some point...also I have a g752(more than a week) , and I am happy with it...
     
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    I'm wondering if the vapor cooling on gtx980m models of the G752 is compatible with the G751 laptops. My 970m at stock setting seems to stay around 38c idle and around 60c gaming. Probably wouldn't benefit me much but I'd upgrade it just for the heck of it.
     
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    That's what pause is for... to stop and look.

    The idea of the video is to give a good quick and complete view of the disassembly and reassembly of the G752.

    You can review and pause anywhere along the way if something interesting passes by.

    It's pretty awesome. :cool:
     
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  33. pato

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    I'm pretty sure that your fan isn't even running on full speed while gaming, because 60C is still very low for a loaded gpu.
     
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    I have just received my G752VW 980M today and coming from a G751 I'm far from happy.

    The G752 suffers the same popping audio issue that was on the G751 Asus seem to have ignored this issue completely.

    It's louder than the G751 for some reason the left side fan (CPU) likes to randomly ramp up to quite loud levels even with low CPU use and temps well under 60.c. It does it just sat on the desktop with nothing running.

    It also suffers the USB disconnect issue on the left hand two USB 3 ports. I never had this on G751 but I'm getting random disconnects and dropouts on them with this.

    Sometimes on boot it likes to just sit with a blank screen for about 20 seconds before displaying the boot logo ? No idea why.

    So far 'm not overly happy with the G752 especially the audio and fan noise issues. I'm also wanting to do a fresh install but you cannot factory backup the G752 as the software does not support Windows 10..

    I'ts likely I will be sending this back tbh.
     
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    Why would you "upgrade" from a G751JY to a G752VY - they both have the same 980m, probably the same effective performance?

    If all those drawbacks existed in my new G752, I would return it immediately :)

    Here is a good deal on a G751JY w/980m and minimal options, you can upgrade on your own. That should save you $700-900+ depending on the model G752 you bought.

    ASUS ROG G751JY-WH71(WX) 17-Inch Gaming Laptop, Nvidia GeForce GTX 980M 4GB DDR5 VRAM, 16 GB RAM, 128 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD (Win 10 Version)
    http://www.amazon.com/G751JY-WH71-WX-17-Inch-GeForce-Version/dp/B015QZPRW4

    Asus Backtracker usually lags in support for new models, this isn't the first time this has happened.

    You can use Macrium Reflect Free to back up the whole drive(s) to image files to restore later, which will include the Recovery volume if you carefully select all the partitions to backup. Reflect won't backup blank space, so don't worry about image size when backing up the whole drive.

    Good luck :)
     
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    I did notice audio popping on the G751 (970m/4720hq/gsync)when I installed a fresh windows 10 copy. But that went away after installing the latest audio driver on the asus site. I just don't see that as an issue if the official driver solves it. I had some weird fan noises as well, a kind of scraping sound almost when the right gpu fan comes to halt. That seems to have gone away completely with regular use. Perhaps sometimes these fans need to be broken in I'm guessing. I bought mine as a refurb for a bargain however and won't be returning.

    The cpu fan on mine, the fan on the left side, is definitely not silent. Even at 37c right now the fan emits a slightly audible noise while the gpu fan seems to be always completely silent unless really gaming for a few hours. I'm not sure why this is. From my perspective the cpu fan should be silent at those temps, and unless we can some how modify the fan profiles which are probably bios controlled, then I see no solution, unless that hw fan program works for the g751/g752.

    If your laptop is brand new I'd wait a couple of days to see if it irons out. I'd like to see the noise levels of some other laptops with the 4720hq. I might repaste the cpu just to see if it makes a difference. Thing is I wouldn't say it's loud, but it's just noticeable at idle. So I'm not sure if the cpu is suppose to be silent at idle.

    I wouldn't do a backup, just install windows 10, there is no need to go back to 8 unless you are really bent on returning.
     
  37. MOOGLEYS

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    I returned the G751 due to the Audio issues :) I thought the G752 might have had the issue fixed.

    I'm going to give it a few days to settle in and see how it is after a fresh install of Windows as there is a lot of crap installed from the factory.
     
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    With every Asus ROG Gxxx laptop, there are Realtek software issues at first release.

    The G751 took 4 months to get a working "fixed" Realtek driver.

    My G750 took 8 months - fortunately the registry work around to disable power saving mode on AC worked for me to stop the crackle / pop, so I fixed it immediately.

    With the G750 series, Realtek added insult to injury after releasing the "fixed" driver by releasing the next driver that broke the original fix and broke the registry fix, the next driver finally reversed the breakage and it stayed working in every Realtek release since.

    A lot of people returned their G751's due to audio problems too quickly, rightly so as without the knowledge that this is a historical repeating issue who knows if it would get fixed - it did :)

    Whenever you buy a new computer, from any vendor, it's going to have problems, and sometimes they are liveable, and sometimes they aren't.

    That's why I usually try to purchase a new laptop after all the teething problems are fixed.

    If you buy the new hotness cutting edge hardware, you bleed :)
     
  39. MOOGLEYS

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    The G752 uses the same audio as the G751. I never managed to fix the popping on my G751 I only got rid of it on Sunday. I could make it better by using different drivers and registry fixes but it still popped quite a bit.

    I'm finding the G752 a lot louder than the G751 which seeing as it's meant to have improved cooling is a bit weird. I'm wondering if I just have a faulty unit as the left fan really ramps up for no particular reason. Coming out of games it stays high for a while. The temps when gaming are low so it seems strange it's ramping the fan up so much tbh...
     
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    That fan Speed sounds like something that will be altered by a bios update once enough customers contacted Asus Support about it. I assume you already asked them if it's behaving normal?
     
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    I have worked out why the fan is so loud. The CPU idle temp with speedstep enabled is nearly 55.c this is way to high. As soon as anything uses the CPU it jumps to over 75.c which ramps the fan up. For comparison my G751 idle temp is 32.c.

    So either the laptop is faulty or the new cooling designed for these is a bit rubbish. The GPU never goes above 70.c and it's fan remains fairly quiet.

    I have another coming tomorrow so I can compare results. I'm hoping it's just a faulty machine but it does say something about ASUS build quality as I imagine it's a poorly mounted CPU cooler that is responsible.
     
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    I have also done this video showing the G752 with PCI-e 256GB NVME SSD vs my G551JW with 128GB Msata SSD Windows 10 boot times. Considering the huge speed difference of the PCI-e NVME SSD in the G752 i'm not very happy with it's actual performance. Power buttons were pushed at the same time.




    I just removed the bottom service hatch to see if the SSD was fitted correctly and found this fantastic paste job. There is random bits of paste stuck to the heatsinks as well. With build quality like this no wonder it's overheating and running slow.

    I have another arriving tomorrow so this one is being boxed back up and will start again tomorrow.... Not very happy tbh...

    [​IMG]
     
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  43. pato

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    Oh this really looks as if something went wrong in manufacturing. I would return the machine. Cooling paste should never touch other components on the mainboard.
     
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    MOOGLEYS Notebook Enthusiast

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    The CPU is hitting nearly 80.c in normal desktop use I'm guessing some of that thermal paste over the side of the heatsink is missing from the cpu contact plate. The left fan keeps ramping up and is very loud before it spins back down again. It seems worse as you are loading games and when exiting it takes ages to spool back down even though the temps have dropped off.

    It looks like sending it back is the only option tbh as it seems to be a hardware issue. I suspect it's just poor contact on the CPU but I'm not going to strip it down.
     
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    Hi!
    Does the model with the unlocked 6820HK CPU supports OC via BIOS or just software OC with XTU ?
     
  46. pato

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    Has anybody seen the 6820HK model on sale and stock already?
     
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    Here currently the 6820HK model is available with 8 GB RAM and 8GB VRAM for ~$2300 :(
     
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    New bios for G752VY, 211, not sure what do after read the description...
     
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  50. Marco Ajon

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    Hi guys,

    I will be having my new G752VT in a few days and will be buying an additional PCIe SSD for it. Is there a recommended model of SSD I should buy?

    I read in the ROG forums that Samsung SM951 is the only confirmed compatible SSD for the G752. Can anyone vouch if its true?

    Thanks in advance!
     
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