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    ATI HD 7970M ON ASUS G73Jh

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by new2019, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. Patriot_73

    Patriot_73 Newbie

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    hello
    i solved bsod with dell vbios.But now problem is when i play a video in youtube or in pc then horizantal lines instantly appears and disappears.voltage was v950 now i flashed to v1000 but still i have this problem.This problem happens when i tried to open skype too.Videos and skype.
    i forgot to mention i dont know which model 7970m :(
     
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    What are the voltage settings for the idle states?
     
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    Patriot_73 Newbie

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    temp.JPG
    it changes to 0.900V when its loaded.
    looks like dell vbios doesnt work properly.
     
  4. F9zSlavik

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    I keep getting random BSOD, wondering if maybe the brick which is 240w is not enough. Is there a AC Adapter with a higher wattage?? Some days I wont get a single one while other time it hits out of the blue
     
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    Found this on ebay, 300w Clevo ac adapter. What do you guys think?
     
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    180w is enough... like asus g75 power supply
     
  7. albert.zweistein

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    After pretty long time I finally decided to try upgrading my G73JH with the 7970M card. I remember about year ago there were plenty of 7970M kits for Clevo notebooks with enduro disabled on ebay, however now there is nothing like that. I tried to contact our local Clevo dealer with no success. I feel it would be cheaper to upgrade my old notebook and use it for lets say 2 more years than the buy some brand new with a high end card already in. Over time I upgraded almost everything in my notebook except the GPU and this is now the weakest point while gaming some actual games.

    I know it's my mistake I was considering the mod so long, but is it still possible to get the 7970M card from somewhere? It seems now there are plenty of kits with 8970M cards for Clevo available on ebay, but when I tried to find if the 8970M vbios with Enduro disabled exists - again no success.

    Or should I buy the Alienware 7970M and blindflash the vbios? Will the fan control be ok?
     
  8. SpicySi

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    I don't know that anyone has successfully got an 8970m working in the g73jh. Would be an expensive test!

    As long as you have the technical know how to do the heatsink mod best bet is to stalk eBay and wait for a clevo to pop up. Then you can just flash the enduro off vbios. Prices still seem strangely high, maybe not a huge amount were made hence the expense and scarcity?

    Personally I am still finding my old g73jh good for any new games that aren't bleeding edge fps. Like you I have upgraded everything but GPU, which looks a bit outside my technical comfort zone.

    Also some people seem to have problems depending on the version of clevo 7970m so that adds extra risk.
     
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    No you would need to find a 7970M, you could use the blind flash guide or find a user willing to flash it just before shipping on the members market.
     
  10. yoshey791

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    Heatsink Clevo P150 HD7970 | eBay
    this is every thing that you need to cool your 7970m in your g73jh its what i used anyhow...
    you will need to cut it just it a bit. and remove the heat pipe its easily removed by holding it over a a gas flam for a few seconds .. WERE GLOVES FOR THIS BIT. OR YOU WILL GET BURNT.
     
  11. F9zSlavik

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    I bought my Clevo here in the site from a user. I had to blind flash the vbios. Not hard. You just can't see nuttin!
     
  12. methrat

    methrat Notebook Guru

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    Does anyone know if anyone is selling a 7970m clevo. Im in the process of buying one off ebay but just getting dicked around like you wouldnt believe. Its been 7 days since I paid them and they still wont post. Got my 920xm heat sinks power supply every bloody thing except the 7970m
     
  13. methrat

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    Im nearly at the point of saying stuff it and getting a 6990m
     
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    Have you checked the members market?
     
  15. methrat

    methrat Notebook Guru

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    Nah I havent yet thanks. .. trying to get my money back off the ebay idiot now
     
  16. methrat

    methrat Notebook Guru

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    Been following this thread for a while now. but did anyone give the dell card a good go other than the bloke at the start with the stuffed monitor output?
     
  17. methrat

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    Hey found a clevo card but its brand new. I heard some of the newer cards have a few problems can anyone tell me what problems I might run into using a newer card and if there is anyway to tell what cards have the problems
     
  18. methrat

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    Btw Fitted the 920xm today. Piece of . Actually improves frame rate too.. always thought the original i7 bottle necked the system a little. Throttlestop helped quite a bit with the old processor though ha ha I stil keepnit running with the 920xm though ha ha why not
     
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    Yes on newer titles the CPU grunt can help. I believe the soldering of the capacitors gives a clue, the older ones have rounded less clean soldering.
     
  20. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    What OS are you using? Try getting some Windows updates done can also help too.
     
  21. methrat

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    Yer im using windows 7 64bit cant remember if ive got the updates enabled or not.. thinking of buying this new 7970m clevo card from this Australian clevo supplier just hope I dont run into many problems spewing ya cant put the 8970m in they're easy to find and not very expensive
     
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    Can you maybe set up a return deal with them?
     
  23. methrat

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    Yer they already said they wont do a return. Its ok I found a second hand one in the usa and a mate is getting it for me :D
     
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    So I've had my 7970m running great in the g73 for the last year or so. More and more, Windows has been booting to a blank screen where the login window should be. Usually I just shut it off and restart a few times and it would fire up. This doesn't seem to be heat related, as I could leave it off all night and sometimes it would happen then too.

    However, exactly when my oculus DK2 arrived, my G73 refuses to fire up. Works fine in safe mode, but as soon as I load any kind of driver it will not go to the login screen, just darkness.

    I've tried OS install 3 times, swapping HDD, disabling boot items, catalyst drivers going back to 12.1, absolutely no change at all.

    If I boot into safe mode, uninstall driver, it will boot up to an OS, until I install a display driver, then no boot again. I guess it may be hardware related, but does anyone have any troubleshooting tips I could make use of? Normally I would say the machine had a good life, and sayonara but money is tight now and I want to use my DK2 :p
     
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    Try booting a recent Linux release like Ubuntu or Mint and see if its Radeon video driver loads ok.
     
  26. yoshey791

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    there is a GREEN msi 7970m on ebay now it might take the clevo modded 7970m vbios:
    MSI AMD Radeon HD 7970M | eBay

    if i still had my g73jh i would jump at the chance to try a msi 7970m i have always wonded how it would run. any1 wont to give it a try?
     
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    As pointed out the green ones are from MSI, I never tried the HM bios on it though.
     
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    Yes, that's MSI-made, since it has MS-1W081 part number printed on the PCB.
    MS = MicroStar.
     
  29. methrat

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    At my wits end with this hey. Took 3 months to get a compatible 7970m. Then when I get it I cant get to dos whilst the card is installed. Then to top things off I left the usb in when I changed back to the old 5870m and yep it booted to dos and I had an autoexec.bat file that loaded the 7970m vbios straight onto the 5870 so now I cant even get it to do anything. Tried to flash the 5870 back to its original vbios as I can get dos with that card but no go and the 7970m will not even let me get the keyboard working or load dos even with an autoexec file configured to automatically install the new 7970m vbios. Anyways why do yas reckon I cant get dos to work as soon as the 7970m is installed. Im nearly at the point where im going to get a new vbios chip pre loaded with the correct vbios from ebay
     
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    All this im trying to do blind btw. I know the lappy loads to dos with the 5870 coz I can type "dir" and the usb flashes but it doesnt with the 7970m installed the bloody lights on the keyboard dont even light up with that card installed. Also before anyone asks yes the atiflash.exe is typed correctly with all the parameters etc in correctly
     
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    The easiest way is to set up a batch file, either the card is dead or the current vbios is totally incompatible.
     
  32. albert.zweistein

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    I got the Clevo 7970M card some weeks ago and then collected the remaining modification components. I created the heatsink by combining the Clevo one and the auxiliary piece of G73JH heatsink to get a single piece new matching heatsing. However during fitting the heat pads and heatsing to the card I found 2 of the micro components from the card dropped-off.

    I was so careful, it seems it was caused by the contact with polystyrene piece from the shipping box, on which I was keeping the card during the day, when I was fitting the heatsink. When the card was slightly slipping on the polystyrene piece the friction might be too strong to release the micro resistors or capacitors. Unfortunately I cannot determine from where they dropped off or even if just 2 dropped or more. If more than 2 dropped, the others are simply lost forever.

    I'm looking for any advises. My current plan is to get the high res picture of the card or another one to compare them in order to find where and which components are missing. Then I may give the card to a friend, who is capable to solder these micro components back.

    It would be also great, if I may get from someone the electrically bricked card as a spare unit for these micro components.

    I have still 1 more spare G73JH heatsink. If I don't give up the modification, I will follow up with the MSI GX60 7970M single piece heatsink - to solder the G73JH heatpipes to this GX60 heatsink. I'd like to keep my G73JH for about 2 more years, then I'd want to replace it with some Clevo based on then standard DDR4 RAMs and the current CPU/GPU.
     
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    The problem is, are the pads still intact on the PCB, what type are the components and where would you get replacements?

    They are pretty sturdy though, it would take some rough abrasive force to take them off (literally someone aggressively mashing the polystyrene into the card).
     
  34. TnF

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    Hello guys. Long time no see..I've been kinda interested in this upgrade, and sat and read the whole thread yesterday. However after checking ebay i can only find DELL cards. From the whole thread i know that the CLEVO cards work, however did anyone manage to get the DELL one to work? Also which one had problem with HDMI and/or fan? Visually DELL and CLEVO cards are the same (Hynix chips both, blue pcb) but the DELL one has 'AMD' logo printed on the right side of the pcb next to the dram chips. Finally there is an MSI card floating around, has anyone tried it?

    On a side note, any working 8970M vbios for HM chipsets yet?
     
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    Bios files and temperature reporting can be quite different though.
     
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    Ok so I fixed my vbios problem as it wouldnt blind flash as the keyboard wouldnt even work or nothing would respond so I bought a m18x and flashed the clevo 7970m card with the new lappy. Funny enough all the bios' s that I downloaded, even the few I got from this thread didnt work but the dell vbios from one of the cards in the m18x did work. Actually even the 7970m's from the alienware worked in the g73 pretty sure they must be msi cards or something. Anyways it works
     
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    Anyways now im facing a new problem. It over heats in 30 secs of gaming.. what I did for a heat sink is get an alienware 7970m plate and solder the pipes from the g73 onto the plate "thought it would be easier" but I think in the process of soldering the pipes I think I may have stuffed the pipes as they puffed up and aint flat no more probably because some one decided to do this delicate work whilst drunk....... and in a bad mood....... with an oxytourch. Its a real hack job ha ha.. anyways now the plate on the card gets extremely hot but the pipes dont seem to draw the heat away like at all. The pipes are still cold about an inch away from the plate when the plate is hot. So my question is do you'se reckon the pipes are my problem or solder
     
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    Yes the pipes are likely dead, you could try submerging one end into hot water to double check.
     
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    Thabks mate yer they're definetly dead. I ordered another g73 heat sink and pipes. Now whether I retry soldering the pipes onto the 7970m heat plate or try heat epoxy. Or just use the g73 one and glue some small heatsinks onto the 7970m. Hmmmm dont know
     
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    The full contact plate is better if you can get those pipes on there successfully.
     
  41. methrat

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    Ok finally got the alienware plate onto my g73 pipes. Dont bother trying solder I tried everything and every time gets hot enough for the solder to stick the copper pipes start to puff out again so I used arctic silver epoxy worked first time and seems to do a great job
     
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    AS epoxy is not bad, with such a large contact area it's not a bad choice, not quite as good as solder but as you found, a lot easier to get right.

    I remember using it back when I had a radeon 8500 and replaced the cooler (back then GPU coolers were all stuck on, had to stick it in the freezer to remove the stock one, my parents looked very oddly at me when I put it in there lol).
     
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    Ha ha did the freezer help alot? Not massively happy with the results though hey seems a bit slow. Maybe im spoilt coz I bought the m18x with 2x 7970m but even only running 1 of the cards in the alienware seems to run alot better than the g73. I deleted all the drivers a reinstalled. I installed msi afterburner to check the clocks etc but then the card runs too hot reaches 102 and only 80-90 with out running it. The g73 has a 920xm overclocked and stable. Got the modded dell power brick. M I missing something??
     
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    The freezer is fine for factory epoxy removal ;) What temperatures are you getting now?
     
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    Guys i need some advice. Has anyone managed to find a VBIOS to run a DELL 7970m so that the GPU fan doesn't always run at full speed?? I spend the whole day installing and modifying heatsinks to make it work. Stock vbios wouldn't even POST so i had to disable the chip and blind flash. I will make a full tutorial if i fix the fan. Everything works from HDMI to Drivers. Here's a small teaser (Note i left the cables connected to the EEPROM so in case i flash a VBIOS that won't POST i can fix it without dissasembling the whole thing - i'm writing this from my G73JH - i don't have another PC :p):

    [​IMG]

    VBIOS tested (and not) so far:

    backup.rom 95462FB612FFB7B021927CC837B5D3B2 128kb This is the VBIOS that came with the card - won't even POST
    1.rom Dell7970m.ROM 40647138A561E29BB4E93696C0BD20CA 128kb (TechInferno) - FULLY working except fan issue -
    2.rom 7970M.ROM C191AA570CB58556FC1DC145DCB8F6EC 128kb 7970M (from TI_RJT).rar (Clevo HM teste G73jh working, enduro off, 850mhz) - POST WORKING, HDMI working, Driver BSOD
    3.rom 7970clevoHM_1075v.rom 018739199F91FD65F1ACFE189CBB7BEC 128kb Clevo_7970m_P1x0HM_ov (clevo HM overvolted) - Driver BSOD
    4.rom By_cleiton7970m.rom 4897063E8CED85640CAE8786AD1CB6BB 128kb Seems to be working, I got HDMI audio output too! - Fan issue.
    5.rom Dell7970m-uv-0950v.ROM E7008962FBA832408A102F0607225B0F 128kb (TechInferno) - FULLY WORKING except fan issue; what i'm using at the moment
    6.rom Clevo.HD7970M.2048.120605.rom 5E3400F8AB3B634BA4B8281C1850EB9B 128kb Clevo P370EM-online techpowerup-Not working - won't even POST

    EDIT 4: More info + i'm making a personal thread
    EDIT 3: Note that i found out max clock goes only to 450Mhz, and 300Mhz idle for Vbioses that boot to Windows. Also when i'm playing flash video (i.e. Youtube) the screen will go all fuzzy colours forcing you to close it.
    As for the BSOD i'm getting with the other vbios is: 0x7E ( 0x0000007E) atikmdag.sys (Catalyst 14.9)
    EDIT: If i don't fix the fan issue i'm going to fix it manually using a hardware fan controller (i have ready) since i'm planning (actually waiting shippment) to add an extra input fan
    EDIT2: More testing and updates.
     
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    It helps if you keep questions to a single thread to keep everyone on the same page ;)
     
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    Ok I scrapped the idea of using the alienware backing plate and the g73 pipes even though they glued nicely my temps were through the roof so I grabbed another "number 3" g73 heat sink "thank gawd they are so cheap on ebay ha ha" and used that and heat siliconed little heat sinks onto the diodes etc... my temp has halved and it runs alot smoother I can even overclock it and holding steady at 50°C ish much much happier with the conversion now thanks everyone for there help muchly appreciated :D
     
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    Ok just got another alienware but a m17x with a 7970m and its getting double the 3dmark score im only getting 10, 000 with the g73, I re read some of this thread and seen some one was getting 21, 000 out of there g73. What do you think is bottle necking my g73? vbios? drivers? or would a fresh windows install help?
     
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    Hey tnf where are you getting these vbios from I wouldn't mind the one with hdmi audio. Also glad to here the dell card works I ve heard so many times that it doesnt even though I tried one and it did "only after I spent a small fortune on the clevo card" from what ive read you'll never get the fans to work properly with a dell card though seeing as dell and clevo have totally different ways of controlling the fan speed
     
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    3dmark breaks down your score for you, monitor your cpu/gpu utilisations/frequencies and temperatures to get an idea of what is going on.
     
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