ATI HD 7970M ON ASUS G73Jh

Hi again people I'm home but my card and here yet grr eneyway HAX. And spicysi what card are you getting one for the p170em ,150em or pm I have looked in many places they are not guaranteed to have the enduro in the bios disabled but Ull soon find out carnt wait to get mine lol

 

HI mans.

Sorry, but the information on this topic are scattered in different pages, and it's not clear.

In the end, the Asus G73 is perfectly compatible with the ATI 7970??
Is there any thing to do or just put it and is easily recognized?
everything is working properly?
change the fan speed based on temperature or running at 100%?
Some problems of temperature? that temperature reaches lla card at maximum load?
you can take advantage of the performance of 7970 to 100% or is restricted in some way from the motherboard of the laptop?
There are problems trottling?
Must Modificar andthe heatsink in any way?

would be useful to write clear guidance on this issue, with the various tests done and how to do upgradi of 7970.

thanks to those who respond.

 

From what i've gathered:

• G73 is compatible with the 7970m, how much? yet to be determined as some people have only tried different variants (manufacturers) and not all the information has been shared
• Is it plug and play? yet to be determined with the stock enduro turned off. With the cards using enduro vbios flash is needed to turn it off
• everything working? for the most part yes, but granted enduro is shut off in the vbios you wont get the integrated graphics switching.
• Temps? sosa hit 83c after 5 min on furmark, that's well within range but still consider heatsink modification
• performance, seems to be working just fine with little to no loss not sure if there's a hit because of pci-express bus speed 7970m is pci express 3.0 bus while 5870m is not.
• throttling issues? not enough information collected, but i doubt it.
• heatsink modification? yes, it is recommended to do so. guides all over this forum.

 

hi people i have big issues at the moment as the hd7970m is being horrible and willnot flash !!! i dont know what else to try as im stuck can some 1 give me advise on this please never used ati flash befor and it will not flash evgasr2 made me an autoexc for it and still nothing !!! please help

 

Did you make a bootable fat32 usb place all the necessary files on it (batch file, ati flash, rom) also its blind flashing so are you waiting long enough and made sure that its booting off the usb? also, which card did you go with? clevo?

 

Thanks for the reply hax Yhea I did all I was supposed do do with the USB lol I managed to get it to flash but all the normal command lines for ATI flash didn't work for the. Card and Yhea I brought a clevo 1 lol managed to get it working after 4 hours worth of bios he'll Lmao havnt tried it in windows yet as soon as I got the screen to display I turned it off Lmao the god dam thing didnt understand the ATI. Flash coding lol I had to mess about with it a lot but I found a command that worked and Ull never find it on the net that's how bad it was I tried about 100 different ones of the net and then downloaded the hole command list and started working it out the hard way. I will do a complete post on the net with all u need to know to get it working tomoz with pics of the. Heatsink mod and all the over mods for cooling I think the card won't get past 60c with my mod lol

 

sounds great, will be awaiting the pics

 

Right people I have a big problem at the moment don't know if it's a direct x issue or what as u can play a game in dx9 but if u try 10 or 11 u get a black screen ? I'm confused buy this I haunt done a reboot as I haunt got the time at the mo please give me some advise people will be posting pics when it's running fully

 

im sure your already on the latest drivers, and a lot of people already on the 7970m i dont want to say its driver specific. but i guess it wouldn't hurt to reinstall latest video drivers. the only other thing that comes to mind is to try flashing the vbios again (now, that you can actually see some video) with all the correct ati flash commands. then try running dx 10 or 11 again and see what comes up.

 

you wouldnt belive this if i told u i downloaded msi after burner and declocked it 1mhz on memory and the gpu and the problem went away this is stupid lol its the stupidest thing i have seen in my life do not know what to say to this strange issue ps i did the hole driver dodar lol

 

what are your memory clocks at? are they stock or overclocked?

 

they are at stock 850/1200 and it dosent work on that but works on 849/1199

so im confussed its weird !!!! ps my max temp 67c heheheheh on to more tests and i will post on the net eveything needed for you boys btw its almost as fast as my gtx 580sli pc power house !!!

 

wierd, now i can't wait for the pictures, i want to see everything from heatsink mod to gpu-z heck i want to see the windows 7 experience score lol

 

as fast as two GTX580 on SLI configuration? I would say almost the speed of ONE GTX580...

 

Forgive me...

 

right here we go people

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here is the standerd gpu heatsink foe the g73 as u well know but with the over hanging bits cut off next to the hd 7970m clevo version

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this image should speak for its self eg sanded a flat area into the heatsink to bond to !!!!



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in this picture u will notice that the gpu heatsink now has an extra heatpipe !!! and is in the motherboard


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here is a top side view of the motherboard and the card in the pc showing where the extra heatpipe is !!


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modded top pannel to allow more air to get sucked in the keep things cool this was hard work unless you have asitione and alot of skill do not try thisas its HARD to get of and i am not joking ps do not put asitone on plastic EVER !!!!

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modded keyboard just because it looks cool bet youcarnt see the vents now can you



pics for proof of it working on screen will be provided later as well as benchmark results

 

Uhm robtherob, your attachments give this message "Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator"

 

please do embedded pictures

 

The 7970M is equal to SLI 580 Ms but they're no where near SLI GTX 580s. Know the difference big guy. The 7970M is about equal to one GTX 570, which is a good bit slower than the 580.

 

lets stop the bickering, on to something productive:

those who wish to know more about the 7970m AMD Radeon HD 7970M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

robtherob, what psu are you using?

 

You can probably manage pretty well with a 150w adapter.

 

i wouldn't personally seeing as 7970m has like a 100 watt tdp, i7-740qm max 45 watt tdp, then you have to account for everything else... but it's never really a good idea to run your psu on full load better to go around 80% load (on a good psu)

180w targus one suggested earlier in this thread seems a good one if your not overclocking. i would like to try the modded alienware 240w supply (delta preferred).

 

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here are all the pictures people hope they work now !!!

havnt had chance to do tests eg benchmarks as i work nights and have a hecktic life
will be free monday to do it though

 

thanks for the pictures robtherob, great job! keep the pictures coming

 

Great pictures. I like your heatpipe mod, very intelligent. Let me ask you something: are you usign any kind of heatsink on the card VRM?

 

Yes I am using a heatsink for the vrm and the small FETS on the bottom of the card as they get hot real hot 1 question I need answered people dose the 940xm CPU work in the g73jh with the 213 bios. As the hd7970m is slightly bottelnecked in some games only in crysis the first 1 you can tell because you get brakes in the display when u turn fast and massive frame rate drop. As the GPU is panning the he'll out of the i7 720qm honestly didn't think it would bottleneck the CPU also me. 3dmark 11 score is down abit from sosa106 benchmark

Ps it dose work on the 150w PSU but I'm thinking is it that that making me have the issue in crysis as that game loads all PCs heaverly please post thoughts people. And just for the record the hd 7970m dose preform aswell as 1.3x a GTX 580 on devil may cry 4 got a nice solid 230fps on the first part of the bench mark GTX 580 sli stays around 380fps on it

 

you'll want to upgrade the power adapter for sure, i7 940xm does work but i would just go with the i7 920xm cause its cheaper

 

Not sure about G73JH, but 9 40XM does work in the G73 JW, probably works on the G73JH too. I'm currently using it on my G73JW.

 

I have a 920XM in my g73jh. Based on what I read before i purchased mine i read you can use the 940xm if you so desire.

I'm really interested and will keep an eye on this thread. I love this laptop and might just do this upgrade.

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I did a quick search and it seems like this is the Alienware PSU people are discussing: http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...295-upgrade-g73-jh-6970-a-79.html#post8097791

I'll still wait to see what rob says for list of materials.

 

asus has power adapters in the 180w and 230w variant; however, i dont know if they work with the g73jh. I kinda want someone to try it lol

 

I would buy one, but the wife's ipad 2 just crapped the bed! So I gave her mine and bought a Google Nexus 7!! Can't wait to get it.

 

I do not recommend the Asus - Taurus PSU as it suffers under load I have done some tests on my 180w Taurus I had hiding in the garage it dropped drastically underload and makes strange noises lol don't think much to them I have just orders a 240w PSU from alienware and I will be modding it to work lol will post pics of this 2 to make life easier 4 people I have also plunged the g73jh in to a massive power supply on my workshop bench and found that the max load pull was 201watts. So I will need a 240w for it lol ps that was with the battery charging to so u can take 15w off for that

 

Robtherob are you going to make a DIY for the install and setup?

 

great job robtherob... a clean upgrade and a really good mod of your heatsink
and about the psu, i confirm the best way is finding an alienware 240w one. It's cheap on ebay, and only need 2.5/5.5mm plug cord to succeed this psu working in the g73jh... plus, if one day you want to upgrade your cpu, you'll have sufficient power to do it...
Also, my 7970m is still running fine, no new issues by now !
I've seen you had to downclock by 1mhz your card... from what I've read in this forum, this is apparently an enduro issue... so I don't understand... maybe if you try to flash with the file I used...
I wanted also to ask you the pcie speed seen in gpuz... mine is 1.1@8x.... while the stock 5870m and my 6970m were running 1.1@16x... and I coulnd't have it better... But it's not very important as every games I tried are running very smoothly on highest settings...

 

yea im curious on the pci-e bus speed aswell, technically it should be running at 1.1 @ 16x speed. but between bus speeds you only get low gain 1.0 vs 2.0 vs 3.0.

but i've heard gpu-z reporting incorrect values sometimes, is it also reported as 1.1 @ 8x speed on hwinfo?

 

I've tried with gpuz and pcie speed test 0.1 program... and both says 1.1@8x... I just come to check in hwinfo, and still 8x (2.5Gb/s) only
and this could related to many things (bios, vbios, motherboard...)

 

send me your vbios please

 

Hi again people mine is reporting speeds of pcie 2 @16x lol but got that stupid issue with having to downclock 1mhz I'm going to see if its the same with overclocking lol it's the same bios I got off you but I was thinking of trying to flash it again from winflash but that says I already have a better version installed lol ps just done a PSU mod from a 240w alienware 1 also do you get eney issues with watching utube as I get a black screen but I can make it hibinate and then get it logged back in and then it's fine ? But I'm thinking this is a registry issue eney info will be great people

 

pcie 2@16x !! I thought hm55 was limited to 1.1@16x or 2@8x (which is basically same transfer rate)... it's kinda surprises me...

I've been playing with modded bios to try optimizing pcie parameters, but it didn't change anything at all... So maybe you have a better mainboard revision than mine...

 

yea that vbios you sent me said invalid file specified. It won't let me edit or even check the parameters. I've heard they're couple mainboard revisions for this laptop, the easiest way to tell is by the color of the pcb yellow vs green (some say green is the latest dunno). Which mainboard version do you have?

robtherob - can we get a picture of your gpu-z and just want to make sure, you both are on the same vbios?

 

I've seen too the green one should be the latest rev for the mainboard. Mine is green but it doesn't mean a lot. Maybe my pcie port is faulty. to check this, I should change again one more time my graphic card, and, for now, i don't want to ^^ !!! (I've already put all screws on my laptop, which weren't the cast last few months !!!). Everything's running wonderfull so, it's not a real bother to me that pcie port is only running 1.1@8x....

about same vbios, i'm not sure we have the same... if robtherob could post his vbios, we could make a file compare to check on this... and maybe this could be the answer why he had to downclock his card... as I said earlier, guys that had to downclock by 1mhz were having enduro issues... as I remind...
I also know that if you have enduro on, the g73 wouldn't post... so that's why a file compare will be usefull

 

im not sure if the 1mhz downclock has to do with enduro, as enduro is only meant for integrated graphic switching. If the vbios has enduro turned off all that results is running everything off the dedicated gpu (not a big deal since 5870m was always running when machine is at stock). One notion i had thought about was heat or voltages; however, we can rule out heat since he reported excellent temps for the gpu (robtherob). I wanted to get my hands on the vbios to check what voltages were in the parameters; however, my vbios editor isn't reading it. Plus, I dont have 7970m in machine to do proper testing. It'll be a long while before I'm able to put one my computer as money is tight.

CPU-z Mainboard Version:

 

hi again people i have the same bios as sosa106 and have this stupid issue lolno big deal though i sopose lol the voltages are 0.82v at idle and 0.90 when watching videos ect and 0.975 gaming max temp of mass effect 3 is 56c so temps are not an issue would love to know what u used to overclock sosa106 as i carnt get it to overclock with msi afterburner grr

 

i get mixed readings gpu-z reports pcie 1.1 @ 16x ;however, everest & hwinfo report pcie 2.0 @ 16x.

 

Im getting this issue aswell lol also my hd 7970m performs poorly on skyrim and crisis 1 lol. Unless I overclock the hell out of the CPU ( I7 720QM) I overclock the CPU to 2ghz per core with setfsb and throttle stop and I seen a 20% increase in skyrim on the minimal fame rate the max is 60. For the people who are buying the hd 7970m to update ur g73. U WILL NEED TO GET A i7 920XM OR A i7 940XM as the card has slow downs waiting for the CPU to catch up lol. I am running the 1600 x 900 screen tho don't know if the 1080p screen will take some of the slowdown of the card at the higher res as the CPU will not always be playing catch up

 

yea the 720qm sounds like bottleneck, time for you to do do another upgrade

any pictures or guides on the power supply?

 

Hi everyone, I few days ago my 5870M in my G73jh (2y 6m old) stopped working, laptop powers up (fan noise and keyboard lights showing) but screen remains black and also external monitors vga or hdmi have no signal.

I was looking for the clevo 6970m, because seamed to have less problems but I cant find one, there are a lot of dell and eurocom on ebay.

I read on other threads that eurocom perform fine did anybody try them?

Could you suggest the best GPU I could mount and where could I buy it?


Thanks in advance

 

mythlogiccorp has a good deal on the 7970m and it has the modded vbios so id say it will work strate out of the box it works in my clevo
AMD Radeon HD 7970M 2GB FOR CLEVO | eBay

 

so guys how's your beasts living ?
up to now how many people attempted this upgrade?
OP is my friend il talk to him to update his post including all the info , if anyone could compose a information post and pm me or him it will be easy for him.
thanks

 

Just orders a i7 940xm heheh carnt wait to get it in. Will be doing benches when it's in and do pics of the benchmark results on various games that I have on hand ps eney requests for what games people want benched let me know