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    Asus G53, the smaller version of the G73jh

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by yoyosupmang, Apr 14, 2010.

  1. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

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    I got it from ATI. :)

    The test was with 720QM, 1920x1080 with 4XAA and Catalyst 10.4.

    I guess they go by average frame rate.
     
  2. Phinagle

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    If they're already handing out benches does that mean we can hope for a Oct./Nov. launch instead of a Q1 2011 launch? ;)

    It'd still probably be Q1 2011 before we'd see them in notebooks though.
     
  3. anexanhume

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    I'm actually more surprised they're furnishing 460M numbers before even Nvidia is.
     
  4. HSN21

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    Yeah it's surprising that ATI already got benchmarks for the high end Radeon 6000 for notebooks o.o which means it might get released in jan 2011 instead of feb or march

    In the meantime Nvidia is still working on their unfinished GTX 460m.
     
  5. spdlmt

    spdlmt Notebook Guru

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    Yeap, can only imagine the 5xx will be out in summer of 2011 or later.
     
  6. Chastity

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    I love speculation threads... :D It's fun how they go in circles constantly.
     
  7. Kevin

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    Man finding that the high-end Blackcomb is just on par with the 460M is a monumental disappointment.

    I may just skip this entire generation.
     
  8. anexanhume

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    That's just DX11 performance. Are you that concerned about DX11 without regards to DX 9/10?
     
  9. Nefter

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    Ken, could you compare performance of mobility 5870 to gtx460 please? (is the gtx460 mobile version, or is that benchmark of desktop cards?)

    "The test was with 720QM, 1920x1080 with 4XAA and Catalyst 10.4" - So ati should be mobile version. Is it test: ati (mobile) vs nvidia (desktop)? :D
     
  10. templar2323

    templar2323 Notebook Guru

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    Yeah I agree. I dont know I think I would still need to see hard numbers before I dismiss anything. The Niv 5xx release is way to far from now anyways to have any weight on notebook purchase decision if your looking for a new one in the short-run.
     
  11. templar2323

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    The only thing I am looking forward too for first half of 2011 is sandy bridge now unfortunately
     
  12. Kevin

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    Look forward to Nvidia releasing a mobile GPU based from something like the GTX 460. I hope they do; that would be one beast of a card.

    Gaming-wise, my 260M could allow me to comfortably wait for another year or so, but I'm dying for a chance to step up to a strong 17" 1080p notebook. The Mob. 5870 and 460M just aren't a big enough performance leap, over what I have now.
     
  13. Zerglot

    Zerglot Notebook Consultant

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    So can the G73jw run Sc2 in complete ultra without any lag at all?
     
  14. Sirius

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    bto has a link stating pre orders will start sept 1st... though its been there for a while not sure how accurate it is. bto
    Though I found this reseller in the Netherlands i think - nvr heard of em but, they list that they will have them in stock by aug 31st.
    www.WebConneXXion.com
    An official release date would be nice...this waiting game is getting to me.
     
  15. antisniperspy

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    JH does it on all Ultra so I dont see why the JW wont
     
  16. roastedpork

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    The Dutch site says 720QM.. ?___?
     
  17. ChinNoobonic

    ChinNoobonic Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm with you there Kevin. The desktop GTX 460 is a great performer and mobile derivatives of that will give the 480M a run for it's money. Personally, I think choosing the GF100 core for the 480M was a bad decision from the get go.
     
  18. Zerglot

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    Then I'm definitely getting this laptop. Playing games on a pentium IV 1.99 ghz with 1gb ram is just plain horrid.
     
  19. Ex3beatnik

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    good laptop, but it has its issues you know lol, like any other laptop except this one has unreliable updates...
     
  20. Zerglot

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    Yeh, but it seems to be the best thing available in terms value. That is, if nvidia and asus ever get around to actually releasing it. They sure are taking their sweet time.
     
  21. santz

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    HI, first post, I signed up just to follow up and finally write on this thread, I have been doing hard core searching on news sites for a month of all languages to get the release date of g73jw. This is the first solid lead I have had, and I had to sign up here to comment as I have read everything written on this thread since past couple of weeks.

    So here goes, if the website says august 31, and as asus claims that g73jw will release shortly before g53jw, is it safe to assume that that will be the case here.

    The only differences in g73jh and g73jw are as follows:

    - 720qm upgraded to 740qm ( upgrade of 133 mhz)- standard
    - 1066 mhz 8gb ram upgraded to 1333mhz 8gb ram- standard
    - Of course the 5870m upgrade or downgraded to 460m (deciding factor)
    - Wireless HD
    - power adapter output may reduce

    Let me know if there are any more-
    Lot of people are not even talking about the power adapter. People keep saying that 460m will consume more power! . Discuss!!!!!
     
  22. hakira

    hakira <3 xkcd

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    The jw is also supposed to have USB3 and access to a 120hz display (3d bs), I HIGHLY doubt they'd include a lesser power brick, since the current G73 under unrealistic 100% loads can pull about 175W.
     
  23. santz

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    sorry i forgot to include usb 3 and 120hz, i was in a hurry!

    TO buy or not to buy, another website here is reporting g73jw at 6gb of ram only!

    Askit, grossiste informatique
     
  24. santz

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    honestly, what is 120hz anyway, will it make a lot of difference. My current lcd is fullHD 1920x1200- dell XPS m1710 laptop. but it runs at max 60hz. plus the video card sucks (7900go gs 256mb)

    will there be noticeable difference with 120 hz?
     
  25. Zerglot

    Zerglot Notebook Consultant

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    Yeh I signed up too after reading the posts on this forum repeatedly. The only reason I'm getting the G73jw instead of the G73jh is USB 3.0, an nvidia card, seeing as I personnaly am no fan of ati drivers, and the wireless hd, to a much lesser extent. I hope for an early release date; but I'm expecting a end of September ish release, seeing as the most reliable of sources indicate a release in septembre.
     
  26. hakira

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    You won't notice a difference, 60hz is the maximum that a human eye can see/read - 120hz is for 3D support, which is pure gimmick. And it's entirely possible that the jw will only come with 6GB of ram - NV cards are more expensive, it wouldn't shock me if asus removed a ram stick to offset the price difference and keep unit cost down.
     
  27. Zerglot

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    It better not drop to 6gb, altough most websites reported 8gb. I've only seen 6th on that French website.Plus, the human eye can't distinguish between 60hz and 120hz for stationary objects, but if the object is moving, it requires higher frame rates to keep it a smooth movement. So a 120hz screen isn't entirely wasted, altough it really doesn't make much difference.
     
  28. HSN21

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    Do you people even read this thread? stop posting links from weird websites we never heard of, if you followed this thread you would know that already many websites listed G53 available for sell since August 1

    These websites use old BS marketing stuff, they take your money and tell you when the date arrive "oh sorry Asus delayed the laptop"

    As of today August 18, GTX460m is not officially announced yet by Nvidia or even Asus themselves, And this laptop will never be released this month because you cant pre order it with real specs, no one got a hands on or unboxing of it, ZERO screen leaked of the actuall laptop "The one we saw was a prototype" etc

    Don't expect it to be released before October, if you want a laptop NOW get something else or get the G53 whenever it get released (properly OCT/NOV)

    However you need to understand, Sandy Bridge is around the corner a complete new platform which guaranty you better CPU upgrades in the future, a 32nm Quad which produce less heat plus Radeon 6000 cards, which if the rumors are true it wont be much faster than 5870? but if it was not faster it means ATI is focusing on heat/noise reduction?
     
  29. Zerglot

    Zerglot Notebook Consultant

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    But there will always be new tech, better performance right around the corner. Plus when that new tech does come out, it's usually way more expensive than it should be. Altough I agree with you, this thing isn't getting released in august, and if it's in septembre, it'll be at the end of the month.
     
  30. Travelor

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    I am testing a laptop/notebook with the nVidia display chipset with 3D support which my company is releasing in Q4.

    I can confirm for this particular hardware set, that 60hz is the default setting and that the 120hz setting will only be activated during 3D presentation.

    Though I might agree on the Gimmicky-ness of 3D I can say that the technology is far superior then the early days of 3D with the Blue and Red lense glasses -

    My company is including in this next wave of 3D machines, a DVD Player/Software that will play a 2D movie in 3D "on the fly". That is more or less a gimmick in my book, though if you play a cartoon the "on the fly" 3D looks very nice - not so much with other live action 2D movies.

    Just thought I'd throw in my thoughts and experience regarding the 3D laptop "craze". ;)

    In Peace,
    Trav...
     
  31. IKAS V

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    Why are people worried about having 6GB's of RAM, 4GB's is more than enough unless you run specific software needs more.
    I know more is better but for everyday use and gaming all you need is 4GB's anything more than that is just a bonus but not really needed.
    If only came with 2 then I would be worried.
    And about 3D frame rates are cut in half so for gaming in 3D expect performance to be less than ideal on demanding games.
     
  32. Zerglot

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    I'm worried cause if it gets less ram, I'm getting the G73jh, seeing as it's downgraded from the 8gig version. Plus, hasn't this thread been over this 6gig speculation?
     
  33. stevenjii

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    Well this thread's just an overall speculation, not just ram speculation ;)
     
  34. HSN21

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    People are stupid :p they still talk about August release or GTS350m GPU and 6GB ram when Asus Confirmed it will be have 4 ram channels and "NEXT GENERATION NVIDIA CARD"

    6GB = wont happen because Running 8GB is actually cheaper with 4 channel board
     
  35. Zerglot

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    Lol that's also very true.
     
  36. sisqo_uk

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    Do you guys think the 460m is wating for sandy bridge cpus and to match it with the new ati 6000 series?
    Just a thought plus if they release it now they prob fear that they wont make much money off the 480m cos the bang for buck off the 460m is better so they just holding out. That what i think. if the sales arecrap thenthey will launch it before the ati 6000 series.
    There not much else reason not to release it now.
     
  37. Zerglot

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    It would delay the g73jw way too much, and Asus wants this thing out in Q3.
     
  38. IKAS V

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    No way.
    I think it's a supply and demand thing, ASUS makes there own GPU's.
     
  39. xWaxPencilx

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    Dear Asus notebook god, please release the G53 from your holy loins by the end of Aug or the beginning of Sept. And dear Geforce god, let your awesome bolt action 460m sniper quickscope ATI god in the f*cking face. THANK YOU!!!
     
  40. Zerglot

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    Amen. Are you quoting TLC?
     
  41. ruly

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    AMEN :smile:
     
  42. santz

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    i cannot find the verses in the bible anywhere!!
     
  43. ryzeki

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    Just came to say that the human eye is NOT limited to seeing 60fps at all. 60hz monitors are, in no way, the maximum the eye can see. Eyes don't "see" in fps for starters.

    And the notebook should come with 8GB and launch as most reseller states in september.

    This generation and probably the next mobile gen will just be the exact same hardware rebadge. Screw 460m i'm getting the HD5870 haha, i'm finally 100% convinced going the ATi road. Nvidia really dropped the ball with these new fermi mobile GPUs and I hope they release worthwhile successors with the 500m series.

    G53jw and G73jw will be awesome laptops, but their 3D versions will most likely include a stupidly low res like 1366x768 which would make the deal quite bad. Stock G51 with full HD res will be a better option.
     
  44. ryzeki

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    Haha, I hope the G53 releases sooner inded, but I doubt it will sadly.

    Don't hold high hopes for the 460m though. Even according by their own nvidia benchmarks, it should be considerably slower than 480m which should put it on par or less than HD5870.

    Man, mobile GPUs are getting quite stagnant haha.
     
  45. santz

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    the benchmarks for 460m are already released!
     
  46. Zerglot

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    Yeh, the human eye doesn't see in fps, but the maximum frequency that a human eye can see and notice a difference is 60hz. In other words, the human eye won't see the difference between 80hz or 70hz. At 60hz, the image is a continuous flow, and is the maximum, or very near the maximum.
     
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    They also mention that the release date is mi-aout (middle august), which we've more than blown by now.
     
  49. IKAS V

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    We will be lucky if it releases a month from now :(
     
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    The article mentions that basic configuration will start at 1500 USD, and roughly 1800/1850 EUR for the pimped out version? How much for the pimped out version in USD then?

    I guess picking it up in the States (despite warranties etc) should save me a pretty penny, no?
     
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