Asus G53, the smaller version of the G73jh

Yeh I know asus hasn't said a word, but I find it funny that's it's on preorder in alot of European online stores.

 

It's probably not ATI that's the problem. I heard the 5870 on the G73JH is a subpar Asus version...

 

I know that. But the problem is every company makes their own ati card. U Usually see Nvidia cards as Nvidia's chipset.

 

Nope!
AW and CLEVO use GPU's manufactured by ATI/AMD.

 

YUP, that post that you linked to, was MY post. You can clearly see the name of the OP in that site and my name in this site. LOL

 

lmao xd klnmkijm

 

Subpar because they made it un-upgradeable and caused other issues like the xSODs we've had so far.

But I don't think they manufactured it with any performance loss did they? :x

 

No, they all have pretty similar performance.

Notebookcheck: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870
Benches between a G73JH, an MSI GX740 and a Devil 9700 (Clevo) all have similar results.

 

Lol... It's only august 23rd... Only a month to a month and a half to go!

 

The only real difference I see is the vBios. MSI released an official one with everything we want.

If MSI makes a dual fan notebook that doesn't look horrible with all that red in the future, I'll be heading in that direction.

 

Do you guys think that Asus will make their own subpar of the Nvidia 460m? I hope not

 

Lol, I hope they dont make their subpar 460m. I hope they make there on par 460m. I don't think that they will be aiming for crappier cards.

 

They are not subpar. They are the same except for the MXM slot.

People here need to stop calling these subpar. The only differences between the Asus HD5870M and MSI is the vBios. Performance etc are all identical. Lets be clear here, Asus for consumer gamers still make the best graphics cards, sound cards and motherboards. There is nothing subpar about Asus. It's just too bad this one time, Asus decided to not release a better vBios.

All it meant was Asus fabricates their own boards. The chips, memory, parts, are all still from ATi!!!

And yes, for the 460 it is likely Asus will use their own MXM slot.

But again, for upgradeability, shouldn't be an issue. By the time you need to upgrade your GPU, I suspect there will be a new MXM for the next generations of mobile cards anyhow.

 

Word. And from what Gary reports, work is underway to rectify the vBios. Which should then complete and round the G73 off as the great laptop it was meant to be. Touchwood.

 

The G73jh is a definite backup plan if the G73jw fails.

 

Why would the g73jw be a fail. The g73jh, in my mind, is a fail already. They are coming out with the jw to solve all their problems like GSOD.

 

this is the same thought we had when asus was about to release the g51jx after all the BSODs in g51j.. Even in the NBR g51jx preorder thread, there have been posts very similar to what i have quoted.. But what happened? Asus released the g51jx with a downclocked graphics card with the same problems.. But, am still happy waiting for my beloved g53

 

More and more sites are going up with specs that arnt as good a value as with the JH. I'll risk the gsod, if it means I can get better possible value, plus they're fixing the gsod. My fears are based on this new thread: Official Spec Of Asus G73JW & G53JW In China.

Specs it says for the G73jw :
-720qm
-620 gb (...)
-4 gb memory (Boo)?
-GTX 460m 1.5 gb
For the G53jw it's the same thing, exept that it's 500 gb storage

 

Please sir, could you point out as to where have you read that they are going to fix the problems of GSOD on Vios on G7JH. I dont much care for the 460m and I just want the product as I leave the USA soon.

 

all lieeess... where's proof?

 

Check the thread Official Spec Of Asus G73JW & G53JW In China, it's in the pictures associated with the post. Apparently, it's straight from an asus catalogue, that's why I'm a tiny bit worried.

 

I doubt Asus would cut the hard drive and ram. It makes no sense. 4 gb of ram with 4 slots? This doesn't even make sense for a BB version. I won't believe anything until I hear the words directly from Asus or a respected seller.

 

Same. I'm taking this report lightly, but it's still disturbing to see reports coming in with those specs, from a Chinese asus seller.

 

I agree with you!

 

I agree with you too, and I hope that it's false, cause those specs are way too nerfed to be real, and I'm not getting the jw if that's the case. It would be stupid of asus to do so.

 

Thread about Asus Updates. It would seem an Asus rep who works with Asus technicians is working on three things. New Catalyst 10.8 drivers, Keyboard Lights issue after upgrading bios and a new vBios. ATi has already a new vBios but ATi is working with Asus to make sure a vBios won't cause a GSOD. Asus has ruled out hardware, they believe it's a vBios/Driver issue.

 

The specs have been confirmed for awhile now by gentech, bto, etc before NDA forced them to remove the listing from their websites. The specs you see above are those listed for China(Not NORTH AMERICA!) so there's no need to panic. All we are waiting for now is the release date which we should have a better clue in 1-2 weeks.

 

Thanks for clearing it up. I was panicking a bit there.

 

I'm almost certain that Asus will have this problem resolved in their new laptops. Why would they let it continue? They aren't. That's why they are releasing these new laptops.

 

I want to know more about the special configuration that with the limited edition ROG model of the G73JW. I hope more info comes sept 1st as many are saying.

 

Their Vbios arent the same, and most of the the time their cards aren't standard either, in most cases isnt a big deal like was with G73, for example the G71/G72/G51/G60 GTX260m has some issues with some drivers that dont downclock on their own, while the standard GTX260 that come with alienware n sager do, i dont think its a big deal as there drivers from MS update that work just fine, so i dont really care, but asus card from my experience havent been "normal".

 

Let's not also forget, that if the B1 model of the G73JH is rocking a i7 740, why wouldn't the JW models carry same or better.

 

They better. This laptop is really a good deal, for the specs, I've been searching for a month and I can not say that I've found something similar( except for the the 660, but I hate the look). I'll be waiting impatiently for it's release, so I can finally play my goddam sc2 in peace, plus the many hours of other game. And it'll be a fine engineering tool.

 

It would be enticing, to see one configuration come with an 840QM. Though that might push the price too close to $2,000.

 

That is what I am hoping the limited edition models will boast.

 

“Curiouser and curiouser!” Cried Alice (she was so much surprised, that for the moment she quite forgot how to speak good English). “Now I’m opening out like the largest telescope that ever was! Good-bye, feet!” (for when she looked down at her feet they seemed to be almost out of sight, they were getting so far off). “Oh, my poor little feet, I wonder who will put on your shoes and stockings for you now, dears? I’m sure I shan’t be able! I shall be a great deal too far off to trouble myself about you: you must manage the best way you can—but I must be kind to them,” thought Alice, “or perhaps they won’t walk the way I want to go! Let me see. I’ll give them a new pair of boots every Christmas.”

And she went on planning to herself how she would manage it. “They must go by the carrier,” she thought; and how funny it’ll seem, sending presents to one’s own feet! And how odd the directions will look!

PS: I am going mad

 

Just, Lol.
I feel your pain, I'm contemplating going Alienware if I can't get hold of one of these in the UK, & if they don't hurry thuh hell up. Didn't wanna break my bank in half but I may have to...

 

i'm already gone mad... i can't keep on waiting for the B1... i'm quite sure the G53 model will be a flop because of ferni.. but seriously , 460M isn't comming close to 5870.. i'd say it will be 10-20% behind.. the 480M is barely 7% ahead according to notebookcheck.net in benchmarks they made with G73 and sager with 480M..

 

We can not confirm that the 460m is alot less powerful than the 5870, seeing as the 460m hasn't even been released. We have no benchmarks, and the 460m is based off 106, not 100, so we cannot compare both cards until the 460m actually releases.

 

Nvidia's GPU Material Defect Cost $475.9 Million

nvidia laptop gpus are not an option for me since my old G1S and the defective g86...

 

wow, JUST WOW. i read each and every comment on that page. i cant believe nvidia has been having so many problems with their GPU's. Now I don't know whether I should even bother waiting for G73JW, as if I take it to India and something happens like a recall, how the hell am I going to return it!

I understand that it comes with a 2 year global warranty. But should I bother with it, the warranty is for " IN case something happens"; not for something that is almost guaranteed to happen. This reminds me of the whole Xbox 360 fiasco with the RROD. (Heat flow problem within the case that melted the solder which attached parts connecting to MB).

Could it be that 460m is not yet announced by Nvidia, because it is having problems and they are taking more time to fix it before they get it out?

I just do not know what to do I feel so undecided

 

a lot of g84 and g86 was defective (8400,8600 and 9650) (a lot of G1S die for that...included my g1s with 1 year and 10 months (but a lot of g1s died when the warranty was over and people had to paid 400$ in RMA... http://translate.google.com/transla...o-soluciones-g1s-defectuosos.html&sl=es&tl=en) (8 months later ASUS gave me back 1500$ and I bought a g73jh) , also some of gtx260 on g51j.. I dont know if the 460 are having issues (I don´t think so), but I prefer to be cautious and avoid nvidia gpus from my laptops, this is why I bought g73jh with a 5870

 

Well... The G73jh has had it's fair share of problems with the 5870. I mean if you're worried with problems that could happen, we know the 5870 in the G73jh fails more than it should. We don't know nothing about the 460m yet, so maybe it won't be so bad on problems, maybe it'll be just as bad as the 5870 and maybe it'll be worse. Can't really predict it, if you wait you're just taking a chance and hoping that the 460m won't have all the problems that have happend to the G73jh.

 

Ditto. Mine burned 3, Asus G1 here also. Luckily this last one is still working while I'm waiting for the G73 to come back from RMA (totally my fault trying to mess with the vbios )

But to those waiting for the G53, I wouldn't worry too much. I don't think Nvidia will make that same mistake again.

In the 15.6" market, this will be a great machine for the money. Just hope that the GF106 will be power efficient. There is little point in having a 15" notebook if it doesn't have a 2 hour battery life. Easy access and easy to upgrade unlike the G53.

But personally I would go with MSI's offering with HD5870M.

MSI GX660R with HD5870M for $1,500. Does have one very large fan. Does vent to both sides. Fully fuctioning vBios with OverDrive. 4 ram dimms. 2 harddrive bays. This is the 15" notebook with HD5870M you want IMO.

Xotic claims the GPU temps are better than G73's, with G73 with stock TIM.

 

At least we know a fix for the G73JH's major fail issue is coming, and very soon too.

 

Yeh, that is true. If 660s looked a bit better, I'd probably get it. If the G73jw fails, the 660 is definitely a good backup.

 

But 5870 is not defective... if you use supported drivers it works fine... and ASUS is working with amd in catalist 10.8 witouth bsod and in a new vbios...

I rememer how g1s we can´t update drivers... we need to moddify .inf files in desktop drivers anda a lot of games dont work fine... (and when nvidia launched laptop drivers, they had a lot of problems with 2d/3d frequencys and we have to change some keys in regedit...

But nvidia sold defective GPUs knowing their faults... for me is a company that has no credibility

 

Yeah that's my only beef with MSI gaming machines. I'm not sure why they think games like ridiculous LED everywhere. I mean surveys have shown the average age of PC Gamers is 28 years old. Do they really think 28 year olds want a machine that looks like that?

It's not too bad though if you turn off the LED lights.

 

If they genuinely fixe the vbios problem, the G73jh will be in line with the 660 as possible backups

 

MSI GX660R-060US

Fans are not too bad, can hear on the first video as he is running Vantage.

If I had to pick, I'd go with the 660 over the G53. The only thing G53 is offering is 3D Vision and PhysX. If those two things are important, then yes, G53 is the best option. But if it's not, then 660.
- The 660 does have BluRay drive
- The 660 is very accessible for modifications and upgrades. All of this makes it a better buy than the G53. Warranty likely for 3 years vs Asus 2 years.
- The 660 has a one touch super fan. Means if you don't care about noise, jet engine fans, it will stay very cool! We're talking temps low 60s for Vantage. Even without jet engine fan, XoticPC said 68C for Vantage.
- USB 3.0, ExpressPort, eSATA, all the ports G53 don't have.

Face it. The mobility lineup of performance is going to be GTX 480M, HD5870M, GTX 470M, HD5850M/GTX 460M. That's how it's going to be.