Asus G53, the smaller version of the G73jh

That's not really what the question comes down to, there are many other factors. One is screen quality. By most reviews so far the GX660 has a fairly weak screen, something I'm very picky about considering 100% of my interaction with the notebook is the screen. Having the HP Envy for a while showed me the difference having high contrast and excellent colors can make in my gaming experience. As far as I know we have no idea how the screen will be on the G53, it could be better, the worse, or the same - but it could be a factor.

Another big issue for someone like myself is fan. The 660 has reasonably good fan noise but the review on notebookreview has me a little worried about the audibility during heavy gaming or extended use. Someone like me would sacrifice a few degrees in temperature for a few decibels in emissions.

If all you want is gaming power in a 15'' notebook, then I'll agree that the 660 is probably the best choice at the moment. But to think that's the only factor is limited - for many there are debates about portability, battery life, aesthetics, noise, and screen quality among others. These may or may not be important to you but they are likely to be key selling points for various forum members.

 

Yes. But to let you know the 660 screen is a glossy, LED 1080p with poor viewing angles. Seems unless you are directly in front, the viewing angles not so great. The screen seems to be adequate, not impressive like the G73 1080p.

But I would speculate further to say yes, you can bet on the fans being quieter.

The G53 will likely be bigger also, for the hump in the back for the cooling system. And overall height, the 660 likely to be thinner.

Good luck in your search for an awesome 15" notebook.

 

Funny, as I thought I was more concerned about burning my hands/lap with a new laptop.

3D close to the bottom. PhysX is somewhat important. I'm curious as to what apps are able to exploit CUDA. Is PhotoShop one of them? It is my plan to replace my desktop with this new laptop so gaming, while a huge piece of what I do, is not the only use. Any laptop will do mundane tasks, but not all will be able to do minor video reprocessing and enthusiast (but not pro-) photo editing as well as a desktop.

Homer

 

Yeah, the search continues : ) The G53 is actually quite a bit bigger, almost an inch thicker at the back, and wider as well, so much so I'm not certain it will fit in my current bag.

But those concessions are something I'm willing to make at this point for the positives of the trade off.

 

I just really need the CUDA for things like 3ds max and revit.

 

Homer, Photoshop believe it or not is actually more affected by your CPU than the GPU. But.. But from AMD and Nvidia, both claim Photoshop CS5 has support for their GPGPU, Stream and CUDA. Adobe CS5 fully supports both Nvidia and ATi.

As of right now, Adobe supports both ATi Stream and Nvidia CUDA for their video editing tools. But for ATi, Adobe supports ATi's eyefinity and ATi is providing support for Adobe's Open Screen. ATi and Adobe are both large supporters of OpenCL. Nvidia also has support for OpenCL but as you can guess with proprietary CUDA, this goes in direct competition.

I believe Adobe will not be focusing to support proprietary CUDA or whatever. By providing support for OpenCL, this will allow them more flexibility in supporting MacOS, Windows and maybe someday in the future Linux, regardless of hardware. OpenCL is supported by Intel, ATi and Nvidia, although Nvidia still pushing for their proprietary closed system.

Anyways, doesn't matter what GPU you have for Adobe products.

 

Doesn't the G53 also come with the wireless HDMI feature (Sibeam or whatevr its called) ?

 

It's called Widi and yes, the G53 is supposed to come with that feature. It's still a question mark as to how well it works though.

 

Almost no news on the G73 on the web... When I start to see news and websites posting it up, then we'll be very close to an announcement. As I see nothing about it, I dare say that we are going to be kept waiting a bit longer.

 

Nope it's called SiBEAM and it will be implemented into the G73jw and G53. Widi is intel's version.

 

You get yourself one of these, hook it up to your TV, and voilà. (Apparently...)

NETGEAR NETGEAR Push2TV INTEL WIRELESS DISPLAY ADAPTER PTV1000 - Digital multimedia receiver : TVs & TV Accessories | Dell UK

 

All this is correct except for Premier Pro CS5 I believe. Premier Pro CS5 with the 460m is expected w/ 336 Cuda cores to have increases of about 10% - 15% from what I have read. I have not found anything from ATI that supports Premier Pro CS5.

 

460m with 336 cuda cores? Isn't it supposed to have 192 cores only?

 

Everything here is wrong. Premiere has full support for ATi's video acceleration with Stream. How do I know? I have Adobe Premiere. This was fixed way back with Catalyst 10.4.

Also the 460M is a measely 252 cores with 192 bit GDDR5. Yeah far from the GTX 460 desktop you mentioned.

BTW 800 Stream Processors destroy 252 CUDA processors for GPGPU. The HD5870M has about 1,200-1,300 gflops and the GTX 480M with 350 cores is about 500 gflops. With only 252, yeah...

 

That's what they say for the gtx 460, you may be correct for the 460m laptop version. That's a big difference...

 

READ my post.

 

Sounds like a very good feature. My choice of laptop to buy is not mainly influenced by this, but it still influences it.

 

For me this option is quite impressive and is largely influencing my decision, but ultimately isn't the deal breaker as well.

 

yeah definatly a pretty cool option.... but isnt the reciever for the widi pretty expensive?? like 400 bones?

 

I hope not. I'm looking forward to using my tvs as monitors.

 

Hdmi cables are like 6 bucks these days...

 

Because that relates to the Wireless transmitter we're talking about..

 

What's with the flame war starting between the G53 and the MSI 660, both are going to be great laptops but to judge something buy not seeing it in person is a little harsh.
No laptop is perfect and and beauty is always in the eye of the beholder.

 

I agree, I've noticed you've jumped on the MSI bandwagon. Personally I don't think the lights are that bad, and with the option to turn them off I wouldn't see the major fuss over it. I'm in a real battle against the mind of whether to get the MSI or wait for the Asus. To be honest an Asus G53 with a HD5870 would be absolutely a deal breaker, I'd buy it straight up but hey like you said, no laptop is perfect. *wipes tear.
Back to emailing Ken about the MSI

 

I just need a new laptop now and it's pointless to wait for the G53 unless it absolutely blows away everyones expectations which by now are very high. I've always come to the conclusion that usually new GPU tech is always over hyped and never what we expect it to be.
I still might get a G53 when they come out and sell which ever one is a better fit for me ( meaning which one is a better gamer) but I think I already know the answer to that.

 

You're subliminally refering to the MSI GX660R yeah?

 

flame wars between enthusiasts? surprising
/s

Honestly guys, in the end we are all here for the same thing which is to get the best possible knowledge about gaming laptops so we can make an accurate decision when it comes to buying these expensive items. we are all united here on this website, in this forum, on this thread, for the same reason.

 

Loving the inspirational, braveheart style speech
I've decided I'm going G73-B1, if anyone is interested

 

After the GX660R, let's see what the Asus G54 or G55 will bring.

 

Ah so tempting to do the same. How much & what config if any?

 

Jagat Review | Unboxed: MSI GX660R Gaming Notebook

For those that do not like the lights, you can see what it looks like when the leds are off. IMO, this machine looks pretty good. I'll probably wait another week or so for more news on the G53 but it looks as though I'll jump ship as well.

 

It's an i7 740, 1TB, 8Gb RAM, 5870, blu-ray (I downgrade mine to save some money) and I put the Intel 6200 on it aswell.
Comes out at $1709 at GenTechPC, take away 3% discount if you pay by Paypal E-Check. I think (not sure) its free shipping to mainland states, but i'd have to pay $149 to get it shipped to the UK. Sounds a pretty good deal to me! Hopefully the B1 will not have any of the BIOS issues that the A1/2 had. (Hopefully.)

 

You'd better hope after 4 models they'd get it right, and if so you've got an awesome computer. I hate making decisions, it's either your given a one off opportunity or you jump into the deep end. My next year is going to be ridiculous, choosing between laptop/desktop/car/savings.

 

I believe I'll hold course and see what the asus god brings us. If the G73jw has the sameish specs has the G73jh, I'm buying it asap.

 

Tenspeed33, when you bought your laptop from Gentech... did you have to pay vat and customs tax and if so... how much did it come up to?

 

Make some more posts so I can PM you about that, or give me your email address?
EDIT: Also I am yet to make the pre-order, just need to get my fund in order

 

I'm also in the UK and after the 53 (73 if I can afford it) guessing it's not getting a uk release any time soon... Would be very interested in shipping costs etc. Guess I wait till September 1st / 3rd.

 

Should get an announcement early septembre

 

Tenspeed can you cc me on that email? Just add @ hotmail.com to my username! Cheers!

 

No problem, it has been sent! @Gravran, I will forward you the email when you give me your address.

I'm once again leaning towards an m15x... I really am struggling on what to do now, too much choice!

 

Im in ur boat m8, the cost of shipping it to Birmingham is 149 $ from gentech.. which is where i'll be buying it from

 

I read on the many websites that g73jh-b1 will get and upgrade cpu which is only 133 mhz faster at the same price point, then why is the price for b1 so hiked up, starting price is $1745 everywhere!

 

yeah, which is weird considering that the price of the G73JW is 1700$..

 

Thanx. my email is [email protected]

 

The G73JH has the HD5870 and the G73JW has the GTX460. But who knows whether that made the difference, I wouldn't think so as the Nvidia chip cost more to make..

 

did you went msi also?

 

Because it costs more to make means it's just as good? Pretty weak correlation there.
- Poor design with high costs = Same cause it costs more per performance for Nvidia.

GTX 460 (Desktop) = 1.95 billions transistors. HD5870 (Desktop) = 2.15 Billion Transistors. HD5870 2X the performance, with 200 million more transistors. GTX 460 is bigger than HD5870 with 200 milllion less transistors. GTX 460 estimate costs 20% more to make.

With your statement, the GTX 460 should be 20% better than HD5870

 

Yes he did, like me!

 

ME JEALOUS!!! My G73 is in service for GPU and KB lights. Instead they are breaking it! They break my LCD, the Motherboard and Top Chassis. And it's still in repair and with no end in sight!

Ugh, the need to have the best right at that moment, if I had waited 6 months I could be joyous with an MSI.
- But a 17.3" of glorious screen will keep me content.