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    Asus G53, the smaller version of the G73jh

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by yoyosupmang, Apr 14, 2010.

  1. Justin@XoticPC

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    They have to be shipped from ASUS to us Resellers first. I dont believe ASUS will start shipping them out until tomorrow. Once they are received by resellers they either ship if they are stock or start the customization phase.

    I suspect most resellers are back ordered past the amount that will be received on this first shipment. :(

    As soon as we get our first unit we will start working on our review. :)
     
  2. Metallic

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    sorry for asking again, wat about 3d models?
     
  3. GenTechPC

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    Yes Asus received a small shipment today and still unloading/allocation, so finally it's almost here. :)
     
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    Oh good! I still have time then. I thought they were shipping today to customers so everything works out for me then since I'll be good to go with my finances on Tues/Wed. :)
     
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    286 pages later and we can almost see the light at the end of the tunnel...
     
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    2865 posts to be exact.. And am proud that i have read all the posts.. :)yippe..
     
  7. GenTechPC

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    G53JW-3DE are on the same shipment so yes, Asus have it already. :)
     
  8. Metallic

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    Hahaha Thank You!

    Made my day!'

    For everyone just joining... IT STARTED SHIPPING TO RESELLERS
     
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    [​IMG]

    I'm so excited... I'm constantly checking my email for an update!
     
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    [​IMG]

    I'm also very excited. We've been posting for two months now and It's finally here!!!! yayyyayayaya
     
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  11. qqusai

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    That's if we're all part of the first shipment..
     
  12. Metallic

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    I'm pretty confident I was one of the first, also, no one ordered the 3d version so :)
     
  13. qqusai

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    I ordered mine on the 26th of September, hopefully I'll get mine soon.
     
  14. Metallic

    Metallic Notebook Evangelist

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    the 3d version or the non 3d?
     
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    qqusai Notebook Enthusiast

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    Non-3D, which is the one everyone pre-ordered I'm assuming.
     
  16. ECKS

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    So my gf asks me: "What's with all those unread emails you have?" And I says to her, "Update emails for the lappy I want." I'm very proud to have had, within the last 3 or 4 hours, roughly 10 unread messages in my email, all belonging to the "Asus G53, the smaller version of the G73jh" thread, hahaha. I can remember when this thread started as a speculation thread. I think we made a preordering thread also, which disappeared.
     
  17. Voodooi

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    Owners thread should be up by Friday (hopefully). I'm still debating weather or not to upgrade my shipping so I get it by Friday instead of Wednesday. Think I just might because spending another weekend on this 10-11 year old desktop is just too painful (the one I brought up a few weeks ago that has a sticker: "256k Ram BLAZING FAST" on it :()

    I assume that those who ordered it on the first week of September will be in the "green zone" since the shipments are small (placed mine on the 4th :)).

    I hope all you guys are going to help out taking pics and giving your detailed review on it too :)

    I didn't see too much people post about getting the 3-D model (maybe 2-3 in this thread? I can only recall Metallic)
     
  18. DT770

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    We will see if you can get yours before mine. I ordered mine from a Canadian vendor as soon as I could. (last week). I am not sure if ASUS america is different fom ASUS canada.

    If you do get yours before me, I know where to order from for my next machine!
     
  19. ECKS

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    Haha is your computer an emachines laptop? They would totally put that kinda sticker on it haha.

    Regarding reviews--would anyone mind putting a DVD or a CD on top of the keyboard, just to get a rough scale of how big this beast is?

    Also, I'm very new to gaminglaptop shopping...so I have a question: Usually how much more expensive is a machine if it's got a newly released CPU (e.g. when SB releases)? Will all new hardware-equipped laptops always be in the $1500 range, like how G73/G73/GT660?
     
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    LOL Funny you say that. It's actually an emachine desktop :p

    Um, when I do my pictures, sure. If I forget to do it, remind me and I'll post it asap.

    I can tell you that when my brother bought an i7 gaming Asus laptop it was 1600$ in Dec 2009. Not sure if i7 just came out on laptops at that time, though.

    Edit: Alienware says i7 laptops were launched at the start of November, so yup, it was around 1600$ a little after i7 launch (the Asus laptop line)
    - Source: Google
     
  21. ECKS

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    My cousin bought an emachine laptop wayyyyyy long ago, when widescreens just came out. It's still sitting at his house somewhere, and has the following sticker across the top of the screen, which looks like this in holographic shiny golden text:
    <-----------------15 inch WIDESCREEN Pefect for Movies ---------------->​

    ..Or something liek that. LOL!!

    Which i7 is in your bro's lappy?
     
  22. Voodooi

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    ROFL Those stickers are hilarious. Emachine should lend a hand to used car salesmen:

    1988 Chevette: "Hot Summer Ride - Drives Like a Porche" (ROFL)

    The Asus with the 260m. Think it's the G51JX (whatever was launched Dec 15th, 09).
     
  23. Metallic

    Metallic Notebook Evangelist

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    Hahahaha! 256 k! that's just hularious, I remember I had one that had this button which would change the speed from 256 to a "TURBO" 512!

    I doubt I'm the only one (stupid enough?) to get the 3D version... I guess i'm just not a hardcore gamer to get a 1080p.

    I'll make sure to put up a nice review, of the 3d part at least, because I know many others are much more experienced in reviewing.

    I'll grab pics too, I got a 12mp cam and a 720p video capability.

    I'd love to have my shipping expedited, but the price is just not worth it for me, I can wait... but I can understand why you can't!
     
  24. ryzeki

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    the 460m is in no way smaller than the HD5870, and they tend to consume about the same.

    We have similar specs, but I have a 9 cell bat, and my best time was 3 hours flat doing close to nothing with battery saving settings. Usually with wifi etc I have about 2.5 hours good.

    So my bet would be around 2.2-2.5 hours of use. Just dimm the lights and turn off wifi when you don't need it, to extend your time.
     
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    LOL @ the Turbo mode. That made me laugh in almost tears.

    If it wasn't for electronic music composition software, I would consider the 3-D laptop.

    Oh! What would be really cool is if you tapped your 3-D glasses to the camera and played a game for 2-3 minutes. A guy on Youtube did that but only for 10 seconds, so the viewers couldn't really see it. I'm not sure if we'd get a good "feel" for the 3-D, but it's worth trying to see if it would turn out good ;) If it looks like crap, a simple 3-D review w/o tapped glasses would also be cool too :)

    @ryzeki
    How much life do you get if you're browsing with wifi ...let's say 1 firefox tab and 1 microsoft office?
     
  26. ECKS

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    I forgot the answer to this: Do we have to buy specialized video games/movies that are "3D" ? Or do the glasses+screen make everything you see on there "3D" (e.g. Starcraft 2 in 3D if I put the glasses on; or Firefox browsing cnn.com with stuff sorta popping out)?
     
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    Oh and another 3-D question that I'm just curious about:

    Can 3-D glasses overlap prescribed glasses easily or is there a special order for one that does?

    It would kinda suck having to take them off and having a blurry 3-D experience :p
     
  28. Metallic

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    You need pretty high res for the software? or am I missing something.

    I'm getting a 2nd nvidia vision pair from amazon (will be buying it when I get a tracking on the lappy) so I'll be able to play and have one on the camera. You will never see the effect for so many reasons (camera, monitor, ir emitter) but at least you'll get the idea of the performance hit you get with playing with 3D. I have 3D bluray that I'll play as well (Cloudy with a chance of meatballs).
     
  29. Metallic

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    Yeah 3d glasses are easily worn over prescribed glasses, I dont personally wear PGs but my buddy does and he sees 3d just fine...

    That's why 3d glasses are so large, so they can fit a large array of people, wearing PGs or not.
     
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    I've never had 1080 resolution on a laptop but it's my understanding that it makes things smaller, so for someone using FL Studio, you can view your compositions, addons, turntable, mixer, etc., all at once, as oppose to a lower res screen, which would make you scroll, click and drag more to access what a 1080 already displays to you.

    And yeah, just the performance itself would satisfy someone shopping for 3-D. I know when I did massive 3-D research a few months ago when I was considering the G51-3D, there was barely any solid user videos on it, which was disappointing. It's too bad Best Buy doesn't have a display model for people to try it (at least here in Canada they don't).
     
  31. Metallic

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    The laptop is just like very other laptop, the 3D effect is only kicks in when a certain application is 3D, otherwise everything else is just 2d.

    Some websites are 3D, many MANY games already support 3d, Star Craft 2 Being one of those games on that list under "good" meaning the 3d effect isn't the best.
    Game with NVIDIA 3D Vision

    I actually don't know what these ratings mean exactly but I have a few of these games that I'll try out in 3D and hopefully I'll understand how the 3d effect goes from one game to another.

    Here are a few games I have, and the rating under the nvidia website.

    BF BC2 -3D Ready, meaning best experience
    Just Cause 2 -3D Ready, meaning best experience
    Age of Empires 3 - Excellent
    Command and Conquer 3 - Tiberiam Wars - Excellent
    Left 4 Dead - Excellent
    StarCraft 2 - Good
    Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising - NOT RECOMMENDED

    Again, this doesn't magically make everything 3D, if something was MADE for 3D, it will play it. Because this is the latest type of 3D, it's future proof for a few more years before we go 3D without any glasses.

    Here is nvidia's library of 3d media, its not very big on videos, photos or anything else (There is a bikini car was video in 3d though :) ) But it's just there to give you an idea.
    Get 3D Content

    I was sold on 3D awhile back when I started doing basic 3d modelling... makes everything cooler.
     
  32. Metallic

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    It makes sense, higher res = more display.

    I was in Canada when G50vt-x1 came out, I remember Canada didn't have it so I had to get it online... got screwed by tax.

    I actually barely heard about the G51-3D, it seems there wasn't much content?

    Canada is the worst for tech, but it is a great idea to have a 3d model showing. and if I recall, it (g51-3d) didn't even have bluray so it was a tough sell.

    Btw, Best Buy (in US) has removed the G73Jh from their display units, this could be because of the new models coming.
     
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    LOL You're like a 3-D salesman. Now I'm second guessing myself, especially how my top 5 favourite game of all time (C&C3) is in "3-D Excellent" status.

    Really nice links, thanks for sharing.

    The G51-3D was really badly promoted. I remember a few months after it was released, companies slashed the prices by 25-40% (not everyone, but some had week long sales back-to-back). You're right that no blu ray was probably a factor in that.

    I've seen more of the G53JW-3D around the web, and it's got blu ray this time. Hopefully it does a better job getting its foot in the door this time :) Nvidia needs to throw it in TV adds, newspapers, the works! I haven't seen anything for the G513D in Canada myself (and 75% of my channels are US) ...hopefully that changes with the G53-3D ;)

    Edit: I used to think Canada was the worst for tech too, but after reading the Asus Euro thread (on the 2nd or 3rd page of this sub-forum), they're getting robbed over there. Hungarians are paying 3100$ USD for a g73jw ...Brits 2275$ USD ....Czechs 2700$ USD ...getting gouged hardcore, and that's without taxes added!
     
  34. Metallic

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    Hahahaha, remember you really can't regret your choice either way, the g53 can do 3d from hdmi, so if you play only at home, then get a 3d monitor thats 21'' for the same markup you get with the laptop, so you get the best of both worlds. (1080p screen and a 3d screen)

    I researched this quite abit so I'm certain this is it for me.

    Unfortunately I know how to sell tech, its a terrible habit of mine. I sold my brother and my buddy on a bt headset, my bro on a camera, my dad and my bro-in-law on Asus, my whole family on HD2s by HTC (BIG MISTAKE)... and I sold everyone I know on Ps3s...

    So I'm sorry if I rant sometimes, it is a power we techhies have no control over.

    You're welcome for the links.

    Asus doesn't advertise because most of their products are pc components and they are specific, so if someone is looking for it, they will find it, otherwise the rest of the world doesn't need to know about their new motherboard design. This is how I came to Asus, I wanted a very powerful laptop... and they keep that cool factor by not advertising their products... I don't like having my stuff advertised all over the place, it stays unique.
     
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    I just would like a 1600x900 resolution with the asus G53JW-3DE ROG, thats all, that would make the laptop perfect, that and adding a expresscardslot and esata, but more so the screen. Even 1440x900 would be better then 1366x768. I would never buy the 3d version at the low resolution, I dont care what people say, if they think the lower resolution plays better with 3d.

    The g73jw-3d is suppose to be full 1080p Full HD, so thats what I would get if considering 3D. Id like to hand it to asus also for implimenting 3D into there monitor so quickly, cudos to them for sure! Go ASUS!
     
  36. Metallic

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    i'm pretty sure soon enough you'll get a 15'' 1080p 120hz (3d) screen. just wait for the A2... but telling from the design... I doubt there will be any addons such as esata or expresscard slot (which I use to hold my remote)
     
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    I don't quite understand 3D on a laptop. Is it the GPU that makes things pop out, or is it the screen that makes it pop out? Or is it just the glasses which make things pop out? Additionally, is it blue/red tint that gets "put" around images like back in the day, or is it "3D" change images to specialized/blurry images, similar to IMAX movies at the theater?

    So can we get 3D without actually having to buy the G53JW-3DE version? For example, buying regular G53JW-A1, and plugging it via HDMI into a 3D-capable LCD TV and wearing the glasses? Or is it only capable because of what the G53JW-3DE actually comes with (different monitor than -A1 and also the pair of glasses and the little black box thing)? Losttttt :confused:

    EDIT: Nevermind. After watching this video, most of these questions just got answered :p http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNwlb4RweeU. Still have the question of: What's the little black box with the green light for? And also, can regular G53 be plugged into a 3D TV and do the same thing, or do we still need to buy the nvidia 3d vision kit (which comes with glasses and the unknown black box thing)?
     
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    The regular G53JW can be used to make games 3-D if you plug it into a 3-D capable TV using HDMI :) So the regular version is 3-D ready, it just doesn't have a 120hz screen to support 3-D on its own. Glasses always come with the 3-D TV, so you'd be fine in that department. As for the black box, I'm pretty sure you don't need one, but Metallic will confirm that since he's the 3-D God lol.
     
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    Did you guys notice how much lower the FPS were in 3D mode? They seemed to go from a steady 40-50 FPS to about 15-20 FPS.
    Thise doesn't bode well for the G53-3D model.
     
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    The 3-D (when it's activated) drastically reduces FPS in games by up to 50%. You have to play them in Low/Med settings. That's what I read for the G51-3D a while ago in a tech article. Could be different with the G53-3D, though. Those guys in the G51-3D vid probably had the graphics maxed out, which is a bad idea if you have 3-D active.

    You basically had to pick back then: Pretty Graphics vs 3-D ...couldn't have both on sophisticated games, but like I said, I'm sure the G53-3D has improvements, since that video is from the G51-3D :) Metallic was going to do a review, which I can't wait to see.

    I expect 3-D laptops to sell like hot cakes when we get to that point where the screen will be 1080 and maxing out a games graphics will get you excellent FPS while in 3-D mode.

    I've never seen a movie in 3-D ...God ...I just realized that. I wonder if a trip to IMAX will transform me into a 3-D fan arghhhh. 35$ for a ticket too, damn IMAX.
     
  41. GenTechPC

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    It's both GPU and 3D Glasses makes things pop out:

    [​IMG]

    60Hz can also produce 3D effect but the quality just looks terrible compare to 120Hz:

    [​IMG]


    I've tested with older G51J-3D model and it looks better than the movie Avatar 3D in IMAX.
     
  42. Metallic

    Metallic Notebook Evangelist

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    Thank you Voodooi... you are dead on though.


    the black box with the green light is the infrared emitter, it sends a signal (via infrared) to the glasses to switch the lcd cover (or lcd shutter) from the left side to the right side. Thats how 3d works, one image is displayed for one eye and another image with a slightly different view is displayed for the other eye and it keeps alternating... but it does it at 120hz (hz = times per second) so it feels you're seeing an image from 2 different points of view just like in real life.

    The green light does nothing but to say that it is "ON", infrared light cannot be seen by the naked eye...

    I think only the 3d version of the G53 has the built in IR emitter beside the camera on the left side and includes the glasses for free. (don't quote me on that yet)

    If you buy the non-3d g53 and buy a 3d monitor, you will have to purchase the nvision glasses and usb emitter (it's called 3D Vision Kit) as the monitors still have no built in IR or include any specific glasses... which is good, for once, something is universal in 3d as all gaming monitors simply use nvidia's solution...

    Nvidia Online Store - 3D Vision Kit

    But like Voodooi said, if you buy a 3d tv, it usually includes the glasses and has a built in ir emitter in the T.V frame somewhere... so you're covered there. All you need is the HDMI 1.4spec Cable to support the 3D.

    http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Super-Sp...=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00383YPMA
     
  43. AnimataurKo

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    I, too, considered the 3D model, but the screen resolution was a deal breaker for me. While I certainly added many a modification on this machine to suit me personally, I had to keep in mind that this laptop isn't just for play... it's for work too. And being an artist/ animator means a nice resolution is ideal.
    Besides... I'd rather hook it up to a nice 3D capable monitor. :)
    On another note... OMG guys! Some of us will be getting our machines soon~! YEAH!
     
  44. Metallic

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    Won't let you down...
    also 35$ for IMAX??? I'm in San Antonio and many movie theaters here have 4D = (3D + moving/vibrating chairs) for about 14$... no need to go to imax. I lastly watched CLASH OF THE TITANS... movie was ok.. but the 3D effect was terrible, it was as if I was watching a pop-up book... the people on the screen had no depth what so ever but they were right in your face.

    There can be a bad side to 3D... when it's post rendered (After the movie was shot in 2D, they convert it to 3D)

    Well that made my day again :D


    :D :D :D
     
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    Gee..Thanks guyz! That was VERY kind, and very HELPFUL of you both! Since I don't have enough cash for the 3D version anyway, might as well stop dreaming. Plus, I feel the same as everyone else does about the 1366x768 crappy resol. So the GTX 460M will do the processing, while say, the "3D capable" television I buy from Frys/BB, will "project" the 3D image, which I will then be able to see with the 3D-glasses that are packaged with the TV, right? Please verify this so that I never have to ask about it again lol.

    If yes, then: Sounds like a deal to me--in need of a TV anyways--maybe a 120hz model will be on sale during Black Friday, hmmm...

    EDIT: Man, 2896 posts since April 14, 2010. NICE!

    2nd EDIT: For a gaming laptop like this, which has only 2hours or so of battery life, do you guys leave the battery in or remove it while you're plugged in at home?? Which is the better idea to do?
     
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    cb6000 Notebook Consultant

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    Hi, I haven't posted in a while. Count me in as among those that ordered a G53JW-A1 model. I'm retiring my G1 model notebook. :p Unfortunately, I didn't make the decision to order really early. I ordered mine through GenTechPC on October 8. Will probably end up waiting another month, but that's okay. I look forward to see it. :cool:
     
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    Hi,

    there is another Review that is written in German, but the Google translation should be good enough to get the point ;)

    "verdammtichkanneinfachnichtserkennen" would translate like: damn it, I can´t see a thing
     
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    +1 on that!!! Also there are no 'sharpness' settings as everything looks like the way it should. DVI and HDMI you need to change settings and like you mentioned... lag....
     
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    Butr0sButr0s Notebook Evangelist

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    Gaming mode is usually terrible on TV's, it locks out many of the custom color options, white balance, etc meaning you loose some of your color gamut while blowing out the saturation on others. On my samsung I'd rather live with the video lag than the picture quality I get with game mode.

    Yes - VGA tends to simply 'pass' the signal as is, and the colorspace settings are expecting computer input (unlike HDMI which usually makes you change black level). Its strange because for all intents and purposes a VGA signal isn't ideal; you're passing an analogue signal to a digital device. But after spending hours hooking my computer and tv up to a millisecond timer and taking pictures of both, there's definitely less lag with VGA.
     
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    Good review thanks. The translation "Rather it is the positioning of the individual interfaces that arouses our indignation." made me lol, I hate it when ports arouse my indignation. No real news that I could see, performance is comparable to G73, although if I read correctly that difference was because the G73 had a hybrid drive.
     
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