Asus G53, the smaller version of the G73jh

Thanks...I now have to clean my monitor... I should not have been drinking and reading at the same time...

 

Fermi's shaders still come in clusters of 32, so I'd be surprised if they cut it to a high-end card to anything other than 160 or 128.

 

Clusters of 32 doesn't work with the 240 cores that the GF104 is rumored to have.

Might be one of the rumored architectural differences between GF104/106/108 and GF100 is how many cores are packed into each SM.

Perhaps they kept the clusters of 24 the G200 core had to make each SM smaller.

 

I think it will be a middle-high class GPU GTS 450, 440 or 430 (GF104-ES)
but a picture is worth more than a thousand words we saw the GF106-ES so it will be a middle-low class GPU GTS 4xx

but i found this also
* NVIDIA GeForce GTS350M graphics with GDDR5 memory

Game on the go with the ASUS ROG G53 | Laptops & Netbooks - Techinstyle.tv

 

I guess this is where I'm lost, because the 192 core chip in the VX7 is clearly based from the originally rumored to be GF104, GTS line, which all follow the model of 32 shaders per cluster.

So, is the GTS line GF104, or not?

 

Not knowing what's what is really frustrating.

 

We could send a spy over to Taiwan to try to grab a g53 prototype

 

My rumors are newer than your rumors. :wink:

The desktop GTX 460 specs leaked last week, that I linked, say GF104 will be 240 cores on a 192-bit bus, and that contradicts the rumors in the post you linked, from March, that say the desktop GTS 450 will use a GF104 with 256 cores and a 256-bit bus.

So now we wait and see which rumors are true.

You can get 192 cores with a 16, 24, or 32 core cluster (or 48) but I expect lower cluster counts might be easier to manufacturer, and require less power to run, which would help explain why the N11E-GS in the VX7 has much higher clocks than the GTX 480M.


I'll admit it's all guessing right now so we'll have to wait and see. I do think it's a safe bet to say that the mobile GTS won't be GF104 but GF106.

 

That makes more sense, as chopping off two clusters of 24 gives you 192.

For GF106, expect clusters of 16; as to whether they go 9 for 144, or 8 for 128, if Nvidia wants a bit of separation from that 96 shader part, using 9 clusters is the logical choice. I think you'll be correct there.

Guessing is the fun part, for me.

 

Found this chart on overclockers club here: NVIDIA GF104 Specifications Leak - Industry News - Overclockers Club



Also another chart from the article which fudzilla is quoting from with regards to the gf104 news

 

If your original rumors are right (3dcenter.org seems very confident in their source) and the GF104 is 256 cores on 256-bits, keeping the 32 core cluster of GF100, it wouldn't change my opinion that the N11E-GS in the VX7 is a GTX 460M.

I'd still guess at the GTX 470M being a full G104 core and the GF106-ES in the G53 being a lower model card....either with 128 cores like you suggest or even 160 cores.

 

No GF106 on the chart, which was posted earlier with the G53 when someone went into device manager.
So the mystery remains!

 

Whatever it is, I expect disappointment, like 128-bit + GDDR3.

 

Well at least we have an alternative in the Lambo VX7 in case that happens.

 

Uh, aren't these desktop GPUs?

 

The model numbers are for desktop cards but the mobile models share some of the base GPUs.

GTX 480M for example use the same cut down GF100 as a desktop GTX 465, and the N11E-GS in the VX7 has the same 192 cores and 192-bit bus version of the GF104 that the desktop GTS 430 listed on the chart has.

Find a desktop card that uses the GF106 GPU and you'll get a better idea of what the mobile card in the G53 looks like.

 

Any information regarding its size and weight?

 

Obviously not as heavy as g73. It will be a little above 7 pounds with the battery.

 

Asus is waiting for nVidia to release the GPU name that's what I heard.

 

What's your best guess?

 

guys did u see the battery size. it looks to big for the G53 i think they put the g73 battery model in the G53 but it doesnt looks good

G53





G73

 

Some new Computex rumors getting spread by HardOCP.com suggest different desktop model numbers for the GF104, 106, and 108 GPUs. GF104 will be the desktop GTX 460 and instead desktop GTS 450(& 455) will use the GF106, while GF08 makes up the lower models.


Unfortunately those rumors throw even more doubt on the 3dcenter.org info and raise more questions for the mobile variants.

 

These are prototypes and final build I'm sure will be much better.

 

Oh lord, the nVidia naming escapades will never end.

 

Lol.
I don't care what they name them as long as they kick @ss.
But yeah they are confusing, waiting from a reseller to email me the specs once I know, you'll know.

 

and we're w8ing 4 u 2 post em..

 

And I thought I was the only one that pestered Ken. That guy is a far better man than I.

 

we need the specs and price of this thing ASAP to initiate analyse + interpret procedure and benchmark it against the G73jh.

AXE out

 

Hopefully NVIDIA releases the names and specs of their mobile graphics at E3. There's also a GPU Technology Conference September 20-23, but I hope we don't need to wait that long.

 

How did you know it was Ken?
He goes above and beyond your regular reseller.
He is definetely getting my business if everything is speecced they way I want.

 

is g53 getting gtx 460m? i dont think so

 

I don't think so either, but you never know.

 

Psychic powers. But really I remembered you mentioning somewhere that you were in contact with him.

And, also, that's exactly why I'm buying from Ken next time around. And also why I'm trying to get two cousins and a brother to get a U30JC instead of a C2D 13'' Macbook.

 

Does Ken pay attention to us posting good things about him here? I hope so, cuz I spoke to him on the phone, he seems like a nice guy. Havent made my purchase yet though, because theres too many to choose from.

 

If all turns out well--meaning that the G53JW-A1, or whatever the model is, doesn't get a gimped GPU and if I find a nice Optimus 12-inch dual-core netbook with ION2--he's getting my business.

When is E3 starting, anyway?

 

Just hours away . E3 expo

 

u think a lot is going to be reveled 2day? about my G53 and G73?

 

I don't believe Asus will be there, we're mostly waiting for NVIDIA to release more details.

 

I'm a dumb@ss sorry double post, stupid phone!

 

I thought they were there last year and showed off the G73.

 

We know for sure, that whatever it has, it'd weaker than the 460M.

 

Most rumours seem to indicate that the GTX460 will be included in the Lambo 15 inch model. Since Asus needs to keep some reason to pay extra for the Lambo model, the G53 will probably get a weaker GPU.

Then again, all this is based on rumours so for all we know it will have 3 GTX480 in SLI cooled with pure iced cold lagger.

 

The second hard drive bay could be used to store collapsible cups. The disc drive is obviously a convenient cup holder. And, a USB dispensing spigot that's operated by repeatedly opening and closing the lid. Now we're talking.

 

I'm sold!

 

I think G53 and Lambo VX7 (or whatever its called) will share the same chassis and mainboard. The premium price for the lambo does really have to explained, its a luxury item with fancy materials and packaging.

 

That's the thing though. Following trends, the previous Lambo was priced very steeply, but it had fairly weak* hardware, (Q9000 C2Q and a 130m/230m, I believe), while the G50vt/G51vx had powerful hardware (high-end C2D and 9800m GS or GTX 260m) while not being nearly as much.

Yet this time around the Lambo seems to be getting the better GPU.


*"Weak" by the standards of us elitist gamer types.

 

Ken of 1toppc informed me that G53's coming out in August. Seems a worthwhile wait, fortunately.

 

It will be worth it only if the GPU is halfway decent.Obviously
I just hope it's not gonna hold it back.It better perform better than a 260M GTX by at least 15%-20%, that's all I have to say about that.
Poor KEN, he must be sick of all our questions

 

Ken from Gentech thinks it's highly unlikely that a Lambo will get a better GPU than a ROG machine.

 

I agree if they both use the same chassis. It would really make no sense to have 2 different hardware versions of the same laptop. The only difference I see between the two are cosmetic.
Then again I could be wrong like I am plenty of times...lol