Argh, I was hoping it would be the same mouse as the one in the g73jw (asus branded one that actually looks like it'll fit my hand, I have somewhat "normal" sized hands leaning on big). This razor whatever looks tiny in gentechs vid and now with your confirming it is in fact tiny,well... arghhh.
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By looking at the numbers ATI 5870 is better however, Vantage does not test DX11 and DX11 is what 460M been optimize.
DX9 and DX10 games still runs better on ATI 5870. but the Lost Planet 2 that Ryzeki wanted me to test the 460M performs better.
Yes but I'll reply you in PM.
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sooo im gunna say the MSI gx660 is the superior machine,,,, Better sounds,,,, 2 hdS,,,EASIER TO UPGRADE.... more 3.0 usbs,,,, express port or whatever.....
is it smaller and lighter????
also the msi doesnt look like it has that redic bezzle,,, and it seem like cooling is a helleva lot better,,,
putting looks aside,,, i think the MSI wipes the floor with the g53
amd when the MSI GT663 comes around,,, the g53 will look like a red headed step child, that no one wants because they suck -
the main thing that held me back from the msi is the light up keyboard,,,, but I dont 100% need it,, i dont play or ever use the computer in pitch darkness,
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Your improper use of ellipsis is distracting.
And anyway, your MSI love will not distract me from my ASUS love. <3
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I'm going to have to disagree with this completely.
How can 1 unit "wipe the floor" with another unit that is almost identical?
The speakers aren't a deal maker for most people b/c of headphones usage. An extra USB 3.0 slot isn't a big deal since all you really need is 1 for data transfering (anything else besides data transfer that requires a free 3.0 port at all times?). The G53JW is medium and light (in my opinion). When I carry it around in the backpack and barely feel any weight ...even when it's on my lap.
Also, the 663 prices that were floating around on blog websites said it would be around the 2500$ USD range and if that price is an actual fact, I don't think they'll sell many, considering the most popular gaming laptops are 1.5-2k.
You have to keep the warranty handling in mind too. MSI will keep your laptop x3 longer than Asus and on top of that, you are forced to pay 60$ to ship it to them if it ever breaks down. Asus on the other hand is free two way. -
your eyes might need a checkup. the G53 wipes the the floor Off the MSI in the looks department.
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LOL dirty humor, I like it..
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Review of the G53-JW 3D on Notebookcheck.de in German. Google Translate may help you.
Also if you want to know more about the non-3D performance you may want to check the G73JW test on Notebookcheck.de. It is also in German. Sorry.
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Google Translate here ya go
thanks for the heads up
for the non 3d:
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That was the best review i've seen so far, nothing new to add thou
A ~50% frame drop in 3D was expected, and the non-3D bench gave the same results as the other reviews i've read. Good to know that the top temp the gpu get it's around 85ºc, probably i won't need to change the stock thermal paste =]
Now it's just wait for the next asus batch
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Thanks Bro +1
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:wink: It is a very good test on notebookcheck.com and you might want to check post #2897 as well :tongue:
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i m interested in buying a core i5 version of asus g53jw.
so can anyone tell from where to buy it.
my budget is $1100-$1200.
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The msi looks like it's been to a carnival and got stuck there with all the lights.
But if your in love with it, go to it's forum rather than gloat here.
Oh yeah... that laptop is based on the old Asus G50 laptop design... sooo.. yeah. -
Not possible.
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The cooling isn't better on MSI. People buy the G53/G72 systems for the cooling alone, the quiet fans. The fan noise is much more noticable in MSI video considering you can still hear it over xoticpc's rep talking loudly right into the mic.
I have never bought a product that is used by the expressport ever. And I will never. And USB 3.0 isn't important to me right now. I don't see USB 3.0 not being available in majority of products for another 2 years in that time, every laptop will be USB 3.0 then. The extra ports on MSI are frankly useless for me at least. And I mean, useless. I don't have any USB 3.0 devices right now and have no plans on buying one for a while either.
But lastly, among the performance notebooks from Asus, Clevo, Alienware and MSI, MSI have by far the worst, most tacky, and childish design on their notebooks. It's just so unappealing when you are not 10 years old. The price and overall engineering of the MSI and hardware components are amazing, but I'd be embarrassed to be seen in public with that and I am very mobile with my pc. But I would still take a MSI over Clevo just because CLevo are so bulky, designed by an engineer who doesn't care at all about aesthetics and no doubt even louder fans. Alienware for me if the Asus G73 did not exist.
Anways wouldn't say either one is that much better, but I'd definitely take a G73 over the MSI. But I would take the MSI over G53 purely on the reason that Nvidia can shove the G53 up their own rear. -
but the fan sounds shouldnt matter? since buddy on another post claims that MOST ppl wear headphones. So technically you wouldnt hear it, and if someone is going to say,,, ohhh welll i dont want to disturb anyone, then you shouldnt be gameing when you have people that you care that much about around. The lights are pretty tackey I will agree, but im just saying putting looks aside,,,,, the MSI does have more features, it has cooler temps, it comes with 2 HD's, easier to upgrade, i donno I can really think of alot of pros over the G53 than cons. i donno im sure other people can add more what the MSI has that the G53 doesnt. and to people on the g53 bandwagon can you please give me some pros that the g53 has over MSI, without talking about looks, and the given, customer support. I have owned 4 laptops, and I dont recall calling the manufacture once, but watch me just jinx myself, and the next laptop i get is a lemon
really im just looking for the lappy that has the most features, best innards, for the best price... i dont really care to to to much about looks, since i just really look at the screen when using my laptop, and I dont plan on having this as a center piece in my dining room, or using it to make a fashion statement, as long as it doesnt weigh like 40 pounds, and is the size of a VHS player, then it doesnt really matter to me a whole ton.
if your going to mention g53 plus's without going into looks, id love to hear about it
im not anti asus, as a matter of fact I was going to get a g73, until i saw the MSI, then i really wanted to wait for the G53, because the main thing holding me back was the screen quality on the MSI that some people were complaining about, and there were some not so good reviews, so I was really excited for the G53, until yesterday when I found out it infact has the EXACT screen as the MSI..... sooo thats why im sort of having a change of heart, and weighing in the pros and cons of each, while factoring the price difference as well. Im sure to the person who said that the GT663 will be 2500 thats a huge type, maybe in like australia or something it might be that,,, I see it being 1600-1800 somewhere around there -
No sorry, the appearance of the MSI is just atrocious. Everything from the obnoxious red circles around the speakers, to ridiculously glossy lid and palmrest, the odd coloring on WASD as if any gamer doesn't know where those are with their eyes closed, even the touch sensitive interface at the top. The entire design is just so unappealing for anyone who uses a machine for anything other than gaming in the privacy of their own room.
I do presentations and take my laptop everywhere, I'm not bringing that toy made for some 12 year old who just games all day long to a meeting. No thanks. The majority of my use for a performance laptop is not gaming, MSI could have made an incredible machine, but they missed it with their childish designs. Someone at MSI keeps missing the overwhelming evidence that the average age of gamers today are 28 years old, not 10 who are fascinated by flashy lights. It wouldn't matter to me if the MSI was the best machine ever made, with that design, I still wouldn't buy it. -
The two machines seem pretty comparable to me performance wise. It just comes down to preference. For me three really important things were
1.discrete looks since I want to be able to bring this into a business setting (and not look even more juvenile to his wife than he already is for being a gamer
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2. backlit keyboard since I am always using the laptop in the dark, at night due to a baby in the house (also, speakers are totally irrelevant for the same reason)
3. customer service - i have always had to call tech support at least once or twice with every laptop. Having painful tech support can really sour the ownership experience.
The things mentioned in favor of the MSI, while important to some, don't mean much to me, and don't come anywhere close to offsetting the large negatives the MSI has in the categories above for me:
1) Speakers/sound system- irrelevant for someone who has to keep the volume down / use headphones
2) Cooler temps - seems from what I have seen the ASUS is cool enough
3) easier to upgrade - i don't plan to upgrade anything, i have the people I am buying it from take care of that
4) 2 HDDS - I am getting 2 HDs with the G53.
5) More slots - I think everything the Asus has will be fine. I don't plug much into my laptop other than an occassional mouse - the point for me is to be portable, not go through a huge process every time I want to move from the couch to the table.
Anyway, I would not blast anyone for choosing either system. These are just the thoughts I came up with since I originally planned on the MSI, then decided to go for the Asus. Mine is supposed to be here Tuesday. I ordered through PowerNotebooks and have had a great experience so far. Nice for Californians as well since PN is close, but not too close
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well the speakers to me is definate plus, just playing music and what not, when im not around my computer speakers... The easy to upgrade is a plus for me, because right now I dont have the dissposable money to spend on upgrades at the moment, so I will have to be doing them on my own down the road. I dont mind the looks of either system, they could have done without the lights on the MSI, and instead used the lights on the keyboard instead. The WSAD is actually pretty niffty, i see some of the guys here, are actually getting there G73's and g53's keyboard lights, customized and having the WSAD a different color, so some people actually like that.
Right now its basically comeing down to, the price. I really like how the MSI has the built in sound card, for 5.1, so I wont have to buy a seperate sound card for my Psyko headphones. That alone would cost close to 100 dollars. So thats a plus forsure. Esata is a plus, I use that alot. I really wish ASUS would have used all the space they have to include these ports, I know the express slot isnt a must, the only thing Id use it for is a sound card, but its not needed because the MSI has its own built in soundcard with the in and outs that i need for my surround sound and psyko headphones.
and i could be wrong, but cant the MSI hd's be put in Raid?
Putting looks aside, the MSI definatly has more features, but at the same time, it does cost a little bit more.
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Who are you getting it from ?
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PowerNotebooks
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It's nice to see Asus finally list the G53 on their US website:
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ohh yeah and it has Blueray isnt the g53 only a dvd player
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I don't understand why ur asking all these simple questions, sounds to me like you haven't even looked at a g53. You know the msi and I've said it myself has better innards than a g53, so why are u still comparing on this thread? There's an msi thread for people who like it. Looks are a huge deal when it comes to everything in life so let it be. Why do girls pick LV bags over a targus bag that has a load of features?
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Its like saying you dont want to get a 323 or IS250 because Accord v6 is cheaper and has more features.
I only expect the life of my gaming laptop to last me 4 years max...
Wouldnt you rather be with a busty hot(89 celcius LOL) blond than someone who doesnt look as nice but that is tiny bit better at stuff you dont care about? The blond (asus) has better service too! lol I mean... its only 4 years at the most. Not like you are marrying for the rest of your life.
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Asus g53jw-3de now available for preorder at amazon:
ASUS G53JW-3DE Republic of Gamers 3D 15.6-Inch Gaming Laptop - Black:Amazon:Computer & Accessories -
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What I find that you'll need as an absolute must is a skin protection sheet for the outer shell. I'm finding it very easy to mark. I haven't shopped around yet, but Metallic did recommend me one, but unfortunately it's out of stock.
Although I'm very maticulous with my laptop, I've taken it to school twice so far and there's two smudge marks that are very difficult to remove. Not a big deal if you think ahead and get a protective sheet.
Another good idea too is having a screen protection cloth/sheet, which I already own. This protects the keyboard/screen area when you have your laptop folded and are traveling.
17 Widescreen Laptop Screen Protector [SPaStd17w] - $16.95 : ShaggyMac, Laptop Screen Protector & Keyboard Cover, Laptop Cleaner & Accessories
The 17" is a perfect fit.
The reason I considered this cloth/sheet is because when I owned the MSI Gx740 and traveled, the keyboard area would scratch the LCD. I didn't want to take a risk with my G53JW. -
hmm did it permanently damage the finish?
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They're smudges that are very difficult to remove. It's very noticable if your're standing away from the G53 while it's closed too (no permanent damage, though).
I made a post in the accessory forum section so hopefully someone can suggest us a film type sheet that ships fast. I have 0 experience with film/outer sheets, so I wouldn't know. -
May you post some pics on the smudged cover as I'm kinda hard to imagine it.
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I cleaned them all already using laptop cleaning spray and the cloth that came with the G53. It just takes lots of cleaning if you dont own a protetivce film for the outer shell.
It wouldn't really be an issue if you kept it home, but if you travel like me, a film sheet is a must, unless you like to clean, clean and you guessed it ..more cleaning!
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I'm wondering how much diff. than the rubberized coating of G73 and G53.
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Was gonna do a short review later, but all my games are virtual and I've only got 50% of them installed. 500kb/s sucks. Might just do it tmrw.
So far I'm absolutely impressed with the machine. I lowered the brightness to 50% and that's what my old system (MSI GX740) looked like on max brightness lol. It's handling my games at 60FPS on max so far, which is superb. -
Yea. It would be great if he can posts a video about the smudges.
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Well that's disrespectful, even Ken (from Gentech) knows he has one.
Yeah I didn't know the cover skin was out of stock actually... So I'll have to keep looking.
For me it's pretty easy to know if the surface will damage...
- if it's plastic, it will get scratched.
- if it's aluminum, it will get bent.
- if it's rubber, it will leave a mark.
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Yup, you're right about that. The finish and design is very high class/quality, but as you mentioned, there's going to be an issue with any material you get.
I've been looking for the last hour and can't seem to find any films. I'm not touching ebay this time because when I owned my Dell a while back, I ordered this "film" that turned out to be a toxic sheet from China that made my entire laptop stink a week. I expect the sheet to be 20-25$ USD. Of course there's billions of them for MacBooks but for PC, we're gonna have to do some digging lol. -
I think better solution opposed to films is just getting a laptop sleeve/cover
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OK AnimataurKo I admit it, I had to look up what ellipsis means.
"the omission from a sentence or other construction of one or more words that would complete or clarify the construction, as the omission of who are, while I am, or while we are from I like to interview people sitting down".
Seems there must be a lot more people out there that are more understanding than myself, but I will try to include the word in one of my assignments, I'm impressed.
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I've contacted zagg, to see if they will be able to make a custom invisible shield for the g53, I'll let you know when I find out. Lol my argument was that since the zagg material is originally used to protect military helicopters and the g53 is modeled after a stealth jet, it's only fitting for it to be protected by the same material
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Yeah exactly, its going to damage no matter what. I have a zune 120 for 3 years now... I have a skin protector from Best skins ever, I just removed it and the whole thing looks like it's out of the factory. Sad part is it's hard to find such things for a laptop.
Voodooi, does the laptop's back cover need specific cover because of it's many bends and curves? or is it almost all flat so any rectangular sheet would work on it?
LOL... the irony is hilarious... I actually contacted them about the same thing a few days ago, so hopefully them seeing the need for it they will create it...
All of us that is getting the laptop should contact them
http://www.zagg.com/support/contact.php
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I don't understand what's happening to the laptop to cause damage to the surface.
When its in a bag it should be in its own padded section, so it shouldn't be in contact with the power cord, accessories, etc. When its on your desk I'm not sure what it would be in contact with.
My cellphone and notebook travel to and from work with me every day. That's two buses and a subway ride each way - and neither of them have any scratches on the screen, smudges, or dents. -
Laptops get handled alot, puttng in/out of a bag and maybe changing the angle and what not... maybe people wana get their hands on it...
So it's pretty easy to get a laptop back cover handled... I grab my laptop with my whole hand under the battery and my thumb on the back... so with friction and what not... it can be damaged...
Voodooi, can you please get measurements of the wrist area? Because the touchpad is more to the left... it's not equal right in the middle type... So please, if you can, get the measurements for the left and right areas and make sure to only measure the flat surfaces of it, meaning if the the laptop dips down to the keyboard don't measure that with the wrist areas!
It will help me create wrist protectors from this site, they also offer free touchpad protector (you must cut it) with 3$ ship and handling... which is a redic price since I can get a much bigger surface for 2$
Palm Rest Cover - $9.90 : TectY, Laptop Touchpad Palmrest Protector Skin -
Yea if we call contact them with the title stating g53, they might just make one. Another option is to see if they'll sell me a clear blank sheet and then I could just trim and paste as I want, which would be awesome
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Okay, looks are a matter of preference, true, but you really are overexaggerating with the looks. Pictures don't match how the machine actually looks like in person, specially with the lights off. Colors are on the opaque side and the red circles around the speakers are actually opaque metallic. The glossy finish inside is barely reflective at all, and due to the surface finish it doesn't get really dirty as easy as other machines.
The machine looks fairly professional and the fact that the cover is simply all black helps. I use it for work and for presentations and I have only recieved positive feedback from everyone. As far as gaming laptop looks, this is definitely on the classier side. Gee, you make it seem as if the machine had some sort of fluroescent glowing around lol.
As for the lights, seriously you could complain about something that is actually an issue? They are ALL able to be turned off. the MSI logo, sides, bottom back panel etc. It becomes a normal looking laptop.
As for the G53 being smudge marks with the finish, its part of the issue I had with the G51J. It felt comfortable as palmrest but I find it much more easier to get dirty smudged compared to regular palmrests or even my MSI. They are easy to clean thankfully, and no laptop is really immune to marks etc. I really take care of my laptops but simple things like taking it out of your bag and moving it around, after a year, you will notice all the marks around.
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which is a good software to play games without CDs ?
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Sorry if i'm late xD but is the G53 released yet because I saw that Voodoi has one but no one else does.What's the situation?
Asus G53, the smaller version of the G73jh
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