Asus G60-JX @ BestBuy fir $999.99

heat under full load in gaming is nearly 85 degrees at the gpu and 65 degrees at cpu. fan noise is clearly audible.

My question ... has anyone DDR3-1333 in this G60JX? Will the memory clock with 667 MHz if i change it from DDR3-1066 to DDR3-1333?!

 

It will still be the same.

 

That's with the i7-820QM? CPU at 65*C is pretty cool - but temps mean nothing with ambient readings to compare with - you might live in an igloo!

I wonder, can you check what Turbo Boost you are getting with the Intel Turbo Boost Utility? We know these systems are power hungry and the CPU gets throttled until you enable the fix bit - I wonder if it's worse with that faster proc. You should be able to hit 3.4 GHz 1 Core Extreme Turbo Boost on that thing!

The memory will run at the speed of the slowest module in the system.

If the MXM module is an ASUS branded one then it should already have the reversed pins and should fit. It's just the VBIOS that might be an issue imho.

Peter

 

Where to get the Intel Turbo Boost Utility?

I overclocked with the ASUS Power4Gear Hybrid. Core #1 max: 141 x 23 = 3.2 GHz.

How to enable the fix bit?

 

Ok. Couple questions. I have read the the last 25 pages and gathered that the C2D and the GTX260M is better for gaming. But the i5 and GTS360m would be better for everything else.

But would adding a i7 negate the GTX260M? I work at best buy and the C2D G60 will be hitting EOL here in about a week. (Price Cut.) So its going to go from $899, Depending on how long we still have this thing for. It could go way down. my question is and i think i already know the answer. Should I fork the extra $100 And get the i5 360 Combo or the C2D 260? Our store has both.

Im looking for a cheaper computer to take with me when I leave for the Army. I already have a 17" (M17x QX9300 4870XF) thats way to expensive to let the barracks rats have a look at. So I was looking for something around $1,000 and smaller than a 17"

Is this the right option for me?

On a side note, Im not to fond of the fact that neither can RAID, I wonder if theres a Optical Drive replacement setup out there for this computer that adds a HDD. Could pack an extra Optical Drive for the event that I might need it.

Also I HATE the lid on the C2D. I would have to pick up some Vinyl to cover that up

My Last option being spending a little more money on a M11x, But gaining portability and losing a bit of performance.

 

I was talking with a reseller, and he mentioned that it was physically shaped different--i.e. screw holes in different areas--so that might be it. If someone could pop the bottom off and get me a couple of close-in snapshots that would be awesome.

Dude, I'm ambitious, not insane. I'd cook my machine alive with a 5870.

 

1) I owned and sold my M15x with core i7 720m at 1.6 ghz. Don't waste your money on it for gaming. I have also owned the G60VX from BB. When gaming, frame rate and load time, G60VX beat the 1.6 ghz quad anytime consistently in all game I tested MW2, RTS game. Most game utilize 2 core and clock speed is still more important. I have consistently found my G60vx's 2.13 ghz load time noticeably faster than core i7 720m quad.

2) I have owned and returned M11x. Perhaps it's cause I'm 36 yrs old and work with 7 monitors everyday but gaming after 10 mins on that 11.6 inches screen makes my eye strain and tears up. I wouldn't recommend it. Also GTS 335m is really not that powerful

3) I must admit I have not owned the new BB G60jx now, but from past experience of owning various laptops and gaming desktops. I would pick the G60jx. Sure GTS 360m is not as powerful as GTX 260m, but at 1366 x 768, resolution is not high and it will not be that tasking on the video card. I doubt you will see major difference between 112 vs 96 stream processor, especially GTS 360m is higher clocked DDR 5. I would also pick the JX because of the processor, not only is it clocked higher, it also has 4 threads. If I remember right from hot hordware or some other testing places...while not a bonafide quad, it does offer 30-40% real world performance gain over C2D.

Just my opinion, please correct me for any mistakes.

 

Thanks For the quick reply Howard, I was doing some comparing on NVidia's Website and saw that the 360m is about as powerful as the 9800 GT. Considering that my old 7805u with a 2.26 C2D and a 9800GTS did well at 1920x1200 I think I should be ok.

It just seems like Asus always does a 2 steps forward one step back. I would of rather of seen the i5/gtx260 myself with a high res screen. But I guess thats what i have my M17x for.

 

Me, I'm just the opposite more insane than ambitious.
@ImportJunky
The JX model is a great machine,seen one today at BB and the new look is great.
Performance wise stock I would say the VX is slightly better since it has a better GPU.More games are more GPU dependent than CPU dependent these days.
JX has a better CPU so I would say it's almost a wash in real world gaming performance.
On the RAID issue it's a no-go with the JX, they put the RAM modules where the other HDD would go.
At this price and size you will not find a better gaming laptop than this even though it wont have some of the hardware options you want.
I guess you can always slap a SSD if you really want the speed boost,but good ones are still pricey, at least that way your can keep the disc drive without performing major surgery.

 

IKAS, I looked at your avatar extra hard and forgot to ask you: did you ever play the third game? It rocks.

The GTS 360m is a very competent card. Fills in a niche between the 9800m G[T]S and 9800m GT. On top of that the smaller process should make it more receptive to overclocking.

 

Yeah, Back in the Good old days they use to sell Hard Drives in the shape of optical drives and you could swap the optical with the hard drive. I wonder if this is an option for a RAID setup?

I have an external dvd writer for my netbook if i need it.

 

Are you kidding me I've been playing GOW3 since it first came out last week.
The best gaming series on a console ever!
This Is the reason I bought a PS3 and to tell you the truth I've been screaming like a little girl every time i see how amazingly beautiful this game looks and plays at 1080p.
Gameplay wise there's nothing that compares to it for the PC, the only game that comes close is NINJA BLADE but that's a very pale comparison.(NB is a great game in it's own right)
KRATOS will have his revenge....

 

All good points Howard.

My take?

G60jx vs vx? If it were me with a mindset of upgrading in the future?
I would lean towards the jx but barely and heres why.

Down the road id throw an i5-540m or 620m(if the board supports it)for dual core "on the go" gaming goodness, screw the quads(for now)they generate more heat and are clocked lower.
Look if this will be your desktop replacement and you wanna go for an 820m more power to ya, awesome, but not me, i have my monster rig at home, this is for portable gaming, i do not need a quad burning up the already small chasis of the jx/vx.

keep in mind the 430m is the cheap redheaded stepchild of the i5's, it doesnt have the full feature set the 520m's on up do.

If i went the vx id upgrade to the t9600 or t9900 depending on price, who cares of theyre last gen C2D they are great gaming procs along with the GTX 260m

Same goes for an upgraded jx with the slightly less beefy GTS 360m but a slightly better processor which probably wont make a damn bit of difference in most current games over the C2D's, down the road? sure i5's may pull ahead a bit but, are you really going to see a difference over a similar speed C2D? I seriously doubt it. Again just my opinion.

Truth? Id take either piece in a heartbeat, if your going to pay significantly more for a jx then id lean towards the vx. Lets be honest a vx with a T9900 and GTX 260m will slam most games for a few more years period.

Heat comparisons? From what im seeing so far both still run pretty warm, the edge may go to the jx here (but im hearing hotter left side palm rest on the jx over the vx) but nothing id get my panties in a bunch over.

battery life? again very similar.

If both were the same price id go jx but just barely.

Conclusion?

Both jx & vx are so similar in real world gaming performence id go with whichever was cheaper on my wallet.

 

Wurd Ikas.

Finally a reason to turn my ps3 on other than watching movies.

The first 20 min of GoW 3 are some of the most impressive, jaw dropping action sequences ive seen in a game and ive seen many many games in my time, im an old fart gamer.

If you enjoy console gaming whatsoever or even have a small interest in buying a ps3 for bluray, this game is the reason to go get one..NOW!

 

The only way I'd buy a G60/50jx is if they reinstate the second HDD bay. It's ridiculous how much space they wasted.

Hah. I got it when it came out, too. In fact I already beat it on normal. Chaos mode is going to... interesting.

Ninja Blade is more like Devil May Cry than God of War, to be honest. The quicktime kills Kratos does are cool, but in a hardcore, brutal way. The quicktime and cutscenes of Ken are more along the lines of Crazy Awesome. Or just audacious

 

Yupp Thats pretty much what i'm thinking. Thats why i'm having a hard time picking one out. As long as I pay attention to how many vx's we have I can get one of those for at least $100 less than the jx. I have a desktop that rocks games. and a M17x Thats even better than my desktop.

So this is more for a cheap laptop to take with me while i'm away so if the barracks rats get to it.. not so much of a big deal. I guess Ill wait and see. I don't mind paying a little more the the i5 but is it really worth the performance from the CPU. doubt it.

The only thing that really turns me off to the vx is the stupid design on the lid.

 

Has anyone got their G60jx hooked up to an external monitor with a higher resolution, if so what kind of performance do you get with higher resolutions in games, or in 3dmark for example?

Thanks

 

I Googled "Intel Turbo Boost Utility" - first result is it: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=18353

Fix Bit: http://g51jbsod.wikia.com/wiki/CPU_throttling - I also have a mirror for it included on page #2 of my review (see sig).

If you want to see a moderately hi-res shot of the insides of the G51Jx see the review in my sig - post #1 from February 3rd. Same G60JX mobo (though with 2 more RAM slots) and same GTS360M GPU. You can see the locations of the screwholes though I did not remove the heatsink.

Peter

 

Intel Turbo Boost Utility and Fix Bit does not work. Intel Turbo Boost Monitor show me wrong frequencys and Fix Bit changes noting...

 

Is there any dedicated review of Asus G60jx out or not yet..?

 

Fix Bit would only have an effect if you are near both the combined GPU and CPU max power limit (or if you have something else taking a lot of power, like a bunch of Hi-drain USB devices plugged in).

What sort of results are the Intel Monitor giving you and what are you comparing it to to know they are wrong?

Peter

 

I haven't really found anything yet. Even youtube doesn't have anything. Must not be a a popular model?

 

Well it is a pretty new piece.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia2boveuPS8

crysis on Asus G60jx

 

Damn.. can't make up my mind.... just be happy with my desktop (i7 920. 6GB ddr3 and ATI 5870) set up + 8 hrs battery netbook for portability or buy the G60JX as a 3rd sidekick

 

thats the same problem i'm having. I got a good desk top, A really good Laptop, (M17x Desktop replacement) And a hp mini 311 netbook, about 6hrs battery. But i want something kind of in the middle. I was thinking about getting this for when i leave for the army.. But i'm quickly finding other things to spend the money on (looking at building a huge media server).

Yeah I saw the Crysis Video, I wanted to see his settings because I wasn't to impressed buy it. With small engagements with one guy the FPS was droping below 20 ("A Solid 30 FPS"). Imagine huge battles or the Last mission in that game.. It would lag like crazy.

I just hope he had the settings pretty much maxed out.

 

Dude.....1 desktop 1 AW M17x, one HP mini.. .you have big, middle small, not sure what other middle of the road machine you want lol..I suppose G60 would fit the but but kinda overkill no? lol.. I thought I'm bad, you are way worse, but hey, I love people like you lol.


PS: As for your comment about Crysis, G60jx on 1366 x 768 with 25 FPS, albeit single player, I'm sure G60jx can handle everything else at that resolution just fine. This would be a nice middle of the road machine for you to take to military. I saw the new G73 on bestbuy web site now at 1199 its a freaking nice machine! Just saw your signature. Can't believe you OC your HP mini lmao. So what you suggest I do?

 

Only problem with the G73 is that it's HUGE!
Really like the GPU in that sucker.

 

The G73 isn't that big. It's much better when you see it in person as the pictures do not do it justice. It's only 2 inches by 2 inches bigger than the G60.

 

I'm going to buy this laptop after read this thread! But is this a perfect combination with Enermax Aelous CP001? Anyone can help me?

 

Your lappy gonna fly away with this baby......

 

Thanks for your reply.

If that's the case, I'll buy them in a matter of seconds!

By the way, what is the difference between the "B" and "S" version? The seller said it was just a difference in color but everything are same, is that true?

 

okay i will test fixbit in 3dmark06. (Score is changing between 10.900 and 11.900)

Intel Monitor shows me 2.13 - 2.40 GHz... but most of the time it show noting.

EDIT:
I tested this 1FC Tool and i dont get these slowdowns in 3dmark06 anymore. But i will go back to 187.66 Driver, because the 197.03 is very slow for my GTS 360M.

With 187.66------------------
3DMark Score 11349 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 5007
SM 3.0 Score 5307
CPU Score 2705 (i5-430M)

With 197.03------------------
3DMark Score 10768 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 4278
SM 3.0 Score 4729
CPU Score 3454 (i7 820QM)

CPU @ 141 x 23 / 3.25 GHz
GPU @ 630 / 2100 / 1500

Other Question... has anyone tried to install Windows XP or Windows 2003 on the G60JX? I get a BSOD everytime. I have a nlite modded CD with ICH10R Drivers, but dont work.

 

Note that you would see even more of a difference with or without the fixbit if you have some CPU intensive app in the background while running 3DMark06.

The Intel Turbo Boost Utility shows you the boost (or the stock CPU speed if no boost is active). If you don't have anything like SuperPi or Prime95 then there is no need for a full sustained boost. It is especially visible if you are using 1 core rather than more - for more info you can see the G51Jx thread or my review thread (in my sig). Without the fix you would see the CPU being throttled during FurMark especially by the Boost being de-activated or turned to a lower level. With the fix it goes higher and is more sustained.

As for the XP Install, all I can suggest is checking the wiki http://g51jbsod.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Windows_XP_x86

Peter

 

you have a desktop, a netbook. anything else? for be the CPU on the netbooks to much of a bottle neck. and the m17x is just to big to tote around all the time. granted the g60 prob isnt much smaller.

But if you can see yourself using it, get it. since i got my desktop up and running my 17x hasnt been getting used very often because of its size mostly. (prob a good thing cause its price) so i can fit something thats a little more portable in nicely.

if you can kinda justifiy it like that. go for it!


I was also looking at the g73 for the 5870's but thats the same boat as the m17x, and the 2 4870's still beat the g73, even with the older C2QE9300. So when the 5870's come out on the alienware side ill buy a pair.

 

I have my desktop + netbook (2 core one, so at least HD video isn't a problem) + my 3G blackberry that's it, nothing else lol. Gaming laptop is mostly a want not a necessity, albeit a huge want lol. Can justify the want but with a big mortgage it kinda sucks I have spare money just not sure to keep it spare just in case or enjoy life lol.

G73 looks sweet, I'm sure its nearly same size as M17x but probably more portable......and newer,

PS: You said your lappy has been getting little use cause of desktop, that's precisely the reason I'm wondering about getting it or not. By spending more money Ill probably neglect another which end up wasting money. I say sell your M17x and get something more portable

 

If you're not sure - well - Money can't really be 'spare' if you have a 'big mortgage' - true it may only be a drop in the bucket but depending on how much your mortgage is the cost of the laptop could be 0.4-4% or more or less if your mortgage is for a loan of $500,000. That's still significant and if you can keep paying it down quicker that way, then that can certainly help pay it off sooner and then you have to pay thousands less over time in interest charges and when it's done and you're out of debt you can really enjoy life and get the G60XXL or whatever is newest then .

My two cents there - for me personally the only reason I have this laptop is that it is my sole personal computer for pleasure and my own programming/tech support business - I have a netbook and a Xperia X1 Phone as well and I find I use them less and less and it all overlaps. A desktop and a laptop that is getting close to being a 'portable desktop.' So I personally think I'm already at the edge of overkill and would rather save the money for the future... but it's up to you.

Peter

 

Thats Deep.....


But when his mortgage is paid off we wont have PC's to play on, it will be something like the movie gamer! I say buy it, Enjoy it. Have fun!


Thats me Personally, but Im on the move a lot and something a little more portable for me would just make life a little easier. Not to mention I wont be as worried about it like the alienware, Someone I dont know looks at the bag its in, and I stare them down and prepare to serve some wholesale whoop arse!

 

Would someone please be able to download the Resident Evil 5 benchmark utility and run that with all settings max so I can see what kind of fps you get? I'm wondering how the i5 copes since RE5 is a CPU intensive game (e.g C2D @ 2GHz + GTX 260M = 30fps while C2D @ 2.8GHz + GTX 260M = 60fps....big difference)

 

that would be kind of interesting to see. the i5 will perform like a quad core, re5 runs best with quads. But the lack of speed and a lesser gpu... Hmmmm

I bet they are close if anything the the i5 might give it an edge?

 

I know this is a relatively new laptop but the benchmark info is almost non existent.
I would love to see a proper review to see what this laptop is really made of.
Not just Crysis or 3DMARK06 scores we need more games
Whose gonna step up!

 

I just bought this one today, and the only problem i see is the keyboard bounces alot when i type, really annoying. Like its hollow beneth it.

 

Yeah the keyboard floats on air
Seriously if it's really that bad go back to BB and see if another JX has the same flex.
Could be that yours has a defect.
I found some flex in the keyboard when I tested the G but not so bad that it bothered me.
I love that it's backlit and personaly think it's a good keyboard, believe me I've seen worse.
Oh and one more thing stop hammering the keys...lol

 

i dont know what i think of the backlit keyboard, the the way i sit i mainly see the lights around the keys, I like it better off lol.

 

im about 50/50 on keeping it, not liking the screen, seems to small maybe to low of a rez.

 

For $200 more the G73 will be a much better choice.
Better everything in a bigger package.
5870HD and i7-720QM is a awesome combo,screen res is 1600x900.
Should be officially out in days and some posters have actually purchased them from BB early.

 

for 1200 i could also get the alienware m15x

 

Yeah a Mx15 with i3-330m and 240M GT which are both extreme crap for a gaming laptop.
The i7-720m and 5870 HD in the G73 will absolutely crush the AW in the $1200 base configuration.
It would be a slaughter of epic porportions in all gaming benchmarks.
Seriously!!!!

 

well you can get the i3 and 260gtx for 1200 with the epp discount

 

Still not even close.