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    Asus G71

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by RedNara, Jun 26, 2009.

  1. bob1182006

    bob1182006 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes, Download DOX 185.85 Drivers. Download Driver Sweeper. Using Add/Remove Program uninstall Nvidia display drivers. Restart into safe mode and use Driver Sweeper to remove any leftovers for Nvidia Display Drivers. I don't think you need to delete Nvidia Chipset Drivers (correct me if I'm wrong). Restart to Vista once more, Install Dox 185.85 drivers, the GPU config is Standard Single/SLI for Vista/7.
    Restart once more and the Nivida Control panel should be accessible, in the Help>System Information menu it should say "Driver Version: 185.85" and that's all there is to it.
     
  2. rawidema

    rawidema Notebook Enthusiast

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    This is because you have to update the .inf file to include the card in the G51. You can do this by looking up the hardware ID in the Device Manager. Then edit the .inf file with that information in two places. One in the upper section and one in the lower section with the moniker "GTX 260m". Once you have the .inf open, you will see how to do it.
     
  3. hong314

    hong314 Notebook Guru

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    Just to get things straight. How is the G71 after the BIOS update? What does the temperature go up to now? Is it worth the price? Will it last for at least 2 years of on and off gaming?
     
  4. binaryzero

    binaryzero Notebook Enthusiast

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    It is on their site, I have flashed mine, so far so good but I have not had time to run many tests.
     
  5. bob1182006

    bob1182006 Notebook Evangelist

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    The temps are fine, the only game I've played that hit past 82C was Crysis and that was because I used the benchmark, usual gameplay will have lower temps. I haven't gone past 78C playing Prototype yet.


    Finally got a hold of a infrared thermometer.

    My room is about 85/6F throughout all these readings.
    The keyboard and the touch pad are around 90F, above the keyboard to the left (Where the OLED screen is in other G71Gx models) the temperature is around 94-5F, to the right where the power button is it's also around 90F.

    The bottom of the notebook is pretty much around 90F as well. Except the top right where the fan is, it's around 95F. At the back the vent is around 110F.

    After playing Prototype for 1 hour, the vent on the back was about 110F. The bottom of the laptop was around 92-3F, the back of the bottom was still around 95F. The keyboard is around 93F, the touchpad is still 90F. But to the left of the keyboard and above it closer to the screen it's about 93-103F, higher temps closer to the LCD. To the right of the keyboard it's around 93-5F again higher temps are closer to the LCD.

    After about 10 minutes of idling the back vent is down to 100F. To the left of the keyboard and above it is around 90-100F. To the right of the keyboard it's down to 91F.

    Where the OLED screen would have been is where it's the hottest, 103F. I don't find the 93F to be that annoying, it's still hot though. But the top were it's 103F is really hot and I'm glad that's not near the keyboard/touchpad otherwise it would be a big problem for alot of people. I guess it has something to do with the material's (some sort of plastic?) ability to conduct heat so it just absorbs alot of heat :/.

    Edit: The top left portion of the keyboard has the CPU beneath it, as well as the RAM, the keyboard has the GPU underneath it.
     
  6. binaryzero

    binaryzero Notebook Enthusiast

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    That Version works great so far!
     
  7. jayndasun

    jayndasun Notebook Enthusiast

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    bleh! can't get a trail version of driver sweeper... :(
     
  8. hong314

    hong314 Notebook Guru

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    Over 100 on the screen. Isn't that going to cause it a lot of problems for the screen later on? I heard that some hp models had their screens crack due to intense heat, will this be the case for the G71? Also does the keyboard/touchpad get too hot to handle when gaming?
     
  9. RedNara

    RedNara Notebook Consultant

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    100F isn't all that high.

    When you measure the inside of the comp we do it in C.
     
  10. Warhammer40k

    Warhammer40k Notebook Evangelist

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    Just in case a simple but not exact measure

    F to C = (F - 32) / 1.8

    C to F = (C x 1.8) + 32

    so a 100F is 38C
     
  11. bludgeon

    bludgeon Newbie

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    1201 installed via live update just now. so far...no problems. of course, my machine has yet to hit 82c

    *knocks furiously on wood*
     
  12. bob1182006

    bob1182006 Notebook Evangelist

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    How hot did the hp models get? and was that on the actual screen or just the edge of it?

    The 100F temp would be to the left of the 5 lit up buttons above the keyboard.
    [​IMG]

    The touchpad doesn't change temperature after gaming really, mine stayed the same temperature before/after gaming. The keyboard went up by 3F and it felt warm when I had my palms on the keyboard, but when you're using it you will only be touching it with your fingertips.
     
  13. hong314

    hong314 Notebook Guru

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    Not sure I saw a couple videos on youtube and from personal experience my hp dv6000 ended up idling at around 87in its final days because of poor construction (I had to take apart the entire computer in order to get to the fan). What's a normal temperature for a laptop of this size?
     
  14. Granitethewolf

    Granitethewolf Notebook Enthusiast

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    I dunno about you guys but overall im very happy, with my cooling pad & furmark running my gpu temps have a hard time getting past 90, it kinds jumps up and down between 91 & 90*C. Gaming is excellent and the system seems very stable. I guess my only gripe is the Seagate HDD ick... I like WD drives lol. My only planned upgrade is to buy a WD 500gb scorpio and copy the OS from the 1st hdd onto it, then moving the seagate over and use it for media storage and the WD for the OS.
     
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    I just downloaded the new DOS drivers and I'm going to test it out and see how it works. Downloaded the 3dmark6 now as well.
     
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    Hey Granite, what kind of cooling pad do you use? and how long were you running furmark for?
     
  17. LyricsLyricz

    LyricsLyricz Newbie

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    anyone thinking of writing a detailed review for g71 or already in the process of writing one? I've been going between sager np8662 and this one for a while and want to see some benchmarks before I give my final decision.
     
  18. Granitethewolf

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    I just use a twin fan targus that i got from best buy. And as far as running furmark in the heat mode i ran it for at least 10+ mins, it heated up quick at first but then once it hit 90ish it seemed to top off. What I should do is play Vanguard SOH for a few hours and run speedfan in the background to log the temps of the system- that would be a true test.
     
  19. dblock05

    dblock05 Notebook Consultant

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    can anyone link me or please post the diff between the xotic pc version and the best buy version?

    thanks, it is much appreciated.
     
  20. newb4life2

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    Hmmm, in stability testing with xtreme burning, i still keep hitting past 95C in a matter of minutes. maybe my cooler just sucks for this notebook :D
    or maybe i gotta do gohpn's mod lulz
     
  21. nimbus16

    nimbus16 Notebook Guru

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    I don't know if there is an actual link but heres the differences I know of:

    BB Version has a lower quality screen (Widescreen LCD (1440 x 900)) while the X-A1 has a WUXGA (1920x1200) Glossy Screen.

    BB Version DOES NOT have Blue Ray Player while the X-A1 does.

    BB Version has a Intel Core Duo while the A1 has the Q9000 quad processor(upgradeable on A1)

    BB Version has a single 500gb HD(5400rpm), A1 has dual 320hds (7200rpm)(upgradeable on A1)

    BB Version apparently doesn't have bluetooth capability unlike the A1, as well..

    Also, you do not get an asus warranty with your purchase at bestbuy, I believe, or even have the ability to buy a warranty package like you would with reputable resellers such as Gentech / Xotic.

    ... I miss anything, guys?
     
  22. newb4life2

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    http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-g71gxa1-order-p-2591.html?wconfigure=yes
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...g71gx&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1218095770874
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...g71gx&lp=2&type=product&cp=1&id=1218092150740

    Obviously, higher priced = better processor/memory/harddrive
    The first 2 are quad cores, while the 3rd one is core2duo. (Bios fixes the issues with the last one btw, so ignore those comments :D)
     
  23. Flaring Afro

    Flaring Afro Notebook Consultant

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    there is a BB version with the quad. also, you should get at least a 1 year warranty through asus even though you buy it at best buy. you should be able to go through them if you want. at least apparently you can with gateways.
     
  24. hong314

    hong314 Notebook Guru

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    Just curious how accessible is the G71's fan? Like is it easy to open to clean it or do I have to take the laptop apart to do it?
     
  25. MothKing

    MothKing Notebook Guru

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    You missed two things, and one of them just might be more important than the rest:

    1. The RX05 (BB version) had it's OLED taken out but the A1 still has it.

    2. The RX05 costs 1150$ while the A1 costs 2000$+
     
  26. nimbus16

    nimbus16 Notebook Guru

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    hehe, indeed, Moth King. One of those definitely impacts the buyer more than the rest. =]

    Didn't think to add the price contrast, thanks!
     
  27. jayndasun

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    ok I just ran the 3dmark06 and got a 10187 no OCing

    the funny thing is the results show me vid car as a GTX170M

    did anyone else get this result in regard to the vid card?

    I've installed the latest Bios and DOX drivers
     
  28. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    People have been noticing that with the G51 as well.

    From what I hear it's because the modified .inf file forces the computer to think of the 260m as a 170 in order to install right.
     
  29. hong314

    hong314 Notebook Guru

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    hong314 Notebook Guru

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    ... Yeah I saw these but they're for the A1 not the RX5. Ionno it may just be a pipe dream but I'm hoping that somewhere I can get 2 year warranty fro that machine.
     
  32. bob1182006

    bob1182006 Notebook Evangelist

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    I did a mini-review of my G71, mainly it's just a collection of benchmarks and opinions from using it. Not professional or very detailed in any way though.

    Compare the pics in these posts: with the covers, without them.

    The cover is held on by 8 small Phillips head screws.
     
  33. nimbus16

    nimbus16 Notebook Guru

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    Ah, my apologizes Hong. I don't really know if they sell it anywhere else aside from BB.

    Bob and LyricsLyricz; I will be writing a detailed review for the G71GX-A1, (which should be coming very soon!!) Although, that probably wouldn't help you since this is essentially the BB version G71 thread.. Although, I will post the link to that review once I have it ready to go, if you are still interested.
     
  34. MasterShake89

    MasterShake89 Notebook Evangelist

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    hey guys, I've heavily interested in this laptop since I've seen it go up (best buy). I have questions for you guys in the know,
    asus' website says the max ram is 6gb of ddr2. but the resllers like xoticpc and whatnot have the option to add up to 12 gb of ram, despite asus' manual and specs saying 6 max.
    so can you jam 3 4gb sticks of ram in the best buy model as well for 12 gb of ram?

    also in the best buy model, can you drop in one of these processors?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-INTEL-CORE-QUAD-Q9200-2-4GHZ-12M-1066-MOBILE-CPU_W0QQitemZ320393970363QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a98f802bb&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|293%3A1|294%3A50

    and if so, how hard is it? cause if i can buy the 1100$ one, and spend 300 for an upgrade on their quad core option, it would be great. and is it hard to put in a processor?

    thanks guys
     
  35. jayndasun

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    looking back I probably should have gotten that quad core one.. its just a few hundred more... i'm not sure you can upgrade the P's(Processors ie P8700). the T's(T9400) you can though
     
  36. hong314

    hong314 Notebook Guru

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    No problem, I just thought it was strange that the cnet review claimed 2 years warranty, meaning that it was sold online =/
     
  37. RedNara

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    If you looking to game generally the Duo core runs faster. Not all games support quad from what I know. Not only if you OC your CPU it's 2.88GHz while if you get a quad it's 2.22GHz. Also you can upgrade to a Quad anytime you want. However, it voids your warranty.
     
  38. MasterShake89

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    so this mobo can accept the q9200? cause if it can thats great, cause im not much into over clocking, and I have to use this computer for more than gaming, image editing, and 3d stuff (all the adobe's, maya) and the quads would be better for rendering stuff out. and i figure if i can get the q9200, itll almost perform as good as the 2.53 (not oc'd) for dual core centric apps.
    thank you for that insight.

    do you know about the ram tho? cause asus said my g1 im currently on could only do max 2gb, but im running 4 in it for nearly 2 years perfectly.

    also on voiding the warranty, best buys is only one year right? so after a year i figure i'd upgrade it then lol.
     
  39. RedNara

    RedNara Notebook Consultant

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    Dude it doesn't matter... If your game like Crysis is not going to run over 82C then you won't have a problem. Because when I run Crysis it doesn't even hit 85C.
     
  40. RedNara

    RedNara Notebook Consultant

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    It has 3 ram slots. So you can do 3x4gb of rams. From what I know it doesn't seem to support DDR3 rams though. :\

    Yeah Q9000 Q9100 Q9200 QX9300 should all work. Also about the warranty you don't get the 1 year Asus accidental damage warranty, and you have to buy the warranty from Best Buy in the first place. Also if you change the CPU you void your warranty.

    Also OC is very easy on this laptop. Asus gives you a program with it. You can OC it 5%-15%.
     
  41. Flaring Afro

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    ^ Are you sure 15? Asus site says 20.

    If I overclocked the dual to 2.9 how long would it last? Sorry for the noob question but never overclocked before...
     
  42. MasterShake89

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    so despite asus' manual, this thing can still do the promised 12 gb of ram. i think im sold on this thing, i just wish my best buy had em in stock so i could get a look at the 1440 screen before buying. if its not gonna have the high res i could deal with that, if its too small i could hook up my desktop monitor, but i wanna know what the image quality is like on the screen itself, brightness, contrast, color definition and all.

    also if u order from BB site, do you get the free windows 7 upgrade?
     
  43. RainMotorsports

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    People who dont run overclocked worry about it more than those of us that do. While i will still give the advice only overclock it when you need to, my opinion of the current setup is most of it will take 15% overclock and hold it for the life of the notebook. Ram is what is most likely to fail and for us G50/51 owners 4GB of better ram than what came in the notebook is only 50 bucks, the G71 owners might push a little out of that.

    Unlike say something like the AMD 7750 where I can tell you itll run at 3.0 ghz for its life span no issues if the cpu isnt defective and that the upper limit most people will reach is 3.3. There doesnt seem to be that kind of data on the penryn C2d processors.
     
  44. newb4life2

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    Yeah, crysis warhead is runnning mainly at around 83-4C. I'm just wondering how the other guy manages to run furmark for 10 minutes without it breaking 94-5C. So, I'm wondering if i should return my zalman, and get his notebook cooler instead :D (gonna be living in a HOT place, so I definitely want a great cooler compatible with this laptop)
     
  45. dalingrin

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    Does the Asus overclock utility adjust vcore or any other voltages? Assuming it doesn't then overclocking would have negligible impact on longevity. Really the only factor that may affect longevity, if voltage is not changed, is thermal. And without a voltage change, thermal shouldn't be much to worry about.
     
  46. RainMotorsports

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    On the G50 voltages do not change its just an fsb overclock. The P7450 that came with this would overclock to 2.45Ghz while undervolted to .900. The T9600 is alot different though every cpu varies but my current high overclock doesnt benifit from any change in voltage, its the cruddy ram.

    ASUS is only worried about it overclocking to the max planned for each model and not what can possibly be done, this can typically be achieved with no overvoltage. The G50 is only a 10% and most users will see 15% or higher like Jacob at 30% and a new G51 owner is at 29% right now.

    The ram is still at a probability of failure but IMO thats the only thing.
     
  47. MothKing

    MothKing Notebook Guru

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    Uh, has anyone mentioned the price increase yet? Seriously, W T F? I already could barely afford it when it was $1150 now it's $1200? I mean sure it's 50$ but it's still not cool.
     
  48. a3r0x

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    Which RAM would you recommend, to increase the overclock potential?
    Would this RAM help: Kingston HyperX
     
  49. da1writer

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    What is up with everyone here...
    Everyone is talking about Temps, Upgrades (ALREADY), and other problems/quirks but no one has even posted benchmarks, no videos of it in action, and only 1 good [mini] review so far...
    I do plan on getting this laptop soon but I would like some reassurance...

    How does GTAIV handle on it, with what settings (Max, High, with shadows, frames, etc.)?
    How is Crysis on it... actually unlike most people on here, I won't play on vanilla High or Very High - a waste of time and resources in my opinion. How does Crysis or Crysis Warhead handle with C.U.D.A.A.T.S on level 4 or 5? C.U.D.A.A.T.S makes Crysis and Crysis Warhead look loads better than the creators of the game did and you get better frame rates.
    http://www.incrysis.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=23117

    Those are a few examples but you get my drift, where are the tests for crying out loud...
    Am I going to have to get the laptop and do it myself and spoil you guys ;)! I mean, come on, is this the only video showing off the laptop...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i2I5xbd5bI
     
  50. Warhammer40k

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    Anyone having issues getting the G71 to "wake up" after closing the lid/screen?

    Everytime I have checked out the G71 at a BB (multiple locations) and closed the screen I could not for the life of me get the computer to wake up no matter what buttons I hit (nor could any BB employee). Everytime I/we just had to restart the computer, which in BB is a brutally long task thanks to thier bloatware "Archie".
     
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