Asus G71

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yeah I need to take a look at power options tonight when I get home

that seems to be an issue...but not that big of a deal..just turn off hibernation

for real you can't get a machine with these specs for that prine... great buy! I can't wait to run SWTOR on this bad boy..

Mass Effect runs like OMG movie good... I was playing COX last night with easily 100+ other players near me with max settings, everyone's Hero had all their effects going on an I wasn't affected at all...

I didn't know what I was missing playing that on my crap ATI x1400.. :\

 

The standard action for when you close the lid is for the laptop to go to sleep. Maybe it was just that laptop that was having problems? I can get my laptop to go to sleep and wake up just fine. Even if I close the lid on it the laptop is able to go to sleep fine.

Beware of the hibernation option that's default for critical battery level, the G71 doesn't seem to support it but hibernation is the default option for the critical battery option for some reason.

 

hey has anyone been able to go through the registration to upgrade from vista to Windows 7 that has been offered with the Best buy G71s'?

I was able to register my machine fine with Asus, I did it @ work but I wrote down all pertinent info, serial number etc and even took a pic of that mofo with my iphone. So ok I was able to register but when I attempt to register for the Windows 7 and enter my SN I receive invalid serial number errors.

Asus support said it should work as if my SN was incorrect then the initial registration of the machine with Asus wouldn’t have gone through-I thought the same thing.

So has anyone run into any issues in regard to the Windows 7 upgrade option?

 

Yeah it's stupid. Just came out and decided to jack the price already despite them screwing up. Maybe they think they gotta cover the costs of making a BIOS now or something.

 

to any of the owners here, can you make a youtube video of the best buy one showing it off? and give a detalied account of the screen image quality?
i'm pretty set on getting this laptop,

and dual or quad core? i need to do graphic design type stuff on it and some 3d rendering for programs like maya, so should i get the quad and spend the extra money (and loose a little gaming performance apparently from what everyone says.)

or get the dual core, wait till the BB warranty dies out, and try to throw in a 2.4 quad in it for around 250-300?

 

I've been to Best Buy and seen the laptop up close and it's pretty nice and the resolution isn't as bad as people are making it out to be, it's actually pretty good. I would too like to have more video's of this device in action or any videos at all actually, I only found one (after the bios update) but that's posted a page back in this thread. I'm most likely going to be the only one posting up videos of this beast when I get it, so I'll gladly let you know when I do (You won't have to wait too long, only a month or two, currently moving)!

It's a dual core by the way at local Best Buys, Best Buy's website does sell the quad though...

 

Okay I've been seeing this hibernation problem pop up in this thread every now and then. Is this a major issue or is it something that I can live with? I mean, with the BIOS issue and now this, I'm starting to feel like maybe I shouldn't get the G71. But like I said, is this a major issue or no? If not, can it be fixed easily?

 

i've only used hibernation once on my current lappy in the last 2 years. and that was just to see what it did and how fast it got back into action. As far as im concerned, its almost a non issue, as you can go to the power options (in vista at least, idk about 7 but i expect itll be better even lol) and set what the computer does when it senses the lids closed. U can select between do nothing, sleep, hibernation, and whatnot. so just set any option thats on hibernate to sleep or do nothing or whichever you prefer.

I personally dont care about hibernate.

 

The problem is that the G71 doesn't seem to support hibernate, so when you hit the critical battery level it tries to hibernate but it can't. One user so far had this problem and he had to return his G71.
But this is easy to fix, change your Critical Battery Action to Sleep, and if you want increase the Critical/Low battery levels by 3% so you can have a chance to not loose any unsaved data.

 

There is no BIOS issue... And hibernation issue is not big...

 

do u guys think this lappy could run games at the native res as good as an xbox 360?
for example games like the new red faction, gta4, and mass effect?

 

Games like GTA4 no, and I'm not sure about Red Fraction. However, games like Mass Effect, it's going to run better. GTA IV is known to have a hard time with even Quad, so it won't run well on the Duo. However, really other than that Games like F.E.A.R 2 and etc will look better on this laptop.

 

360? graphics like that are pathetic. my FX could do better, and that had a weaker processor and a 9800gts.


Also, I went to geek squad today and they finally gave me the replacement I deserve (its been since April). They had none in stores but I'm getting the next RX05 they get in.

I found an answer to the "opened laptop" thing some people have found. I was talking to the geek squad guys about the bios and they knew all about it and said that the best buy stores upgraded the bios when it came out. So, yes people got opened laptops but only because the new bios was on it.

 

Finally got my Zalman NC2000 today!

Edit: The G71 is a slight bit wider than the Zalman, less than 1/2 inch wider on each side and about 1 inch out in the front of the cooler

Did 2 hours of Prototype today not 1 like before, but the numbers still show an improvement.

Fans were set to max.

My room's temp was around 85/6F again just like yesterday.

Right after playing Prototype:
------Cooler---Without
Vent - 110F - 110F
Bottom - 90-91F - 90-95F
Keyboard - 93F - 93F
Touchpad - 86-88F - 90F
Upper Left - 93-100F - 93-103
Upper Right - 88-89F - 93-95


10 mins afterwards:

------Cooler---Without
Vent - 100F - 100F
Bottom - 87-89F - 90-95F
Keyboard - 91F - 93F
Touchpad - 87-88F - 90F
Upper Left - 92-95F - 90-100F
Upper Right - 87F - 91F


HDD's max was 40C, before the min was around 40C and the max was around 45C.
Core/GPU temps were the same, but 2 hr today vs 1 hour yesterday of playing might be the reason for this.

I think the Zalman helps the laptop stay away from those high temps and it does a great job of getting the laptop to cool down after you're done gaming. Especially the area near the LCD that used to be around 103F and would stay close to 100F for a long time.

Let the laptop cool down for about an hour, started it up and the keyboard/touchpad were all around 85F (Room's temp). The upper left and keyboard rose to 89F after a few minutes.
The bottom is 85-89 the front being the coolest, the back being the hottest. The vent's around 100F already.

Idling temps from HWMonitor
------Cooler---Without
Core #0 - 36C (36-40) - 38C (36-41)
Core #1 - 37C (36-40) - 38C (36-42)
GPU Core - 52C (51-52) - 53C (51-54)
HDD - 37C (37-38) - 39C (37-39)

If anyone has tests I should run let me know. I'm new to all of this benchmarking and comparison stuff.

 

I'm curious would the 100F around the LCD pose problems for the screen later down the road?

 

Seriously I would rather do it myself than let a Geek Squad guy do it lol.

Hm not as good as I suspected. Is it because the vents are not completely in the right places with the cooler's holes?

 

The openings on the bottom of the notebook are right above the cooler's holes where the air comes out.

Does anyone know if it would be okay if instead of a scanned copy of the Proof of Purchase I used a photo of it? I gotta email that or use snail mail to get it to them so I can get the Windows 7 upgrade.

Edit: Nevermind, I can't take a good enough picture of the receipt anyway. Guess it's snail mail for me.

 

Are the temps on this abnormally high? Will it severely lessen the lifespan of the laptop?

I'm pretty close to purchasing this, but I need to be buying something that I know will last me at least 2-3 years.

 

hmm, based on the pictures I've seen in the other thread I was about to just plunk down the ol credit card number and order one offa bestbuy.com when I thought. "hey, todays my day off, I'll just go to best buy and be able to see it for myself, and if its as awesome as i expect, buy it on the spot."

So i start driving (best buys 45 minuts out) and 10 minutes in i got the bright idea to call to see if they even had it,
called information, got the number.
bestbuy:

"uhh....we'll probably have them friday......?"

*breaks screech, turn around*

really hoping i can get my hands on one of these in person sometime soon ;_;
monday's the soonest I'd be able to get out there again.

on a more topic related note, does oc'ing the processor 15 percent cut down on the lifespan/integrity of the processor? (i know nothing of overclocking)
and how dramatic do you think the difference would be between my g1 (2.0 core2, 7700go 512) and this be. could it keep pace with my roomies dell xps with the dual 8700m 256mb cards and core2 2.93?

 

Woo Hoo!

Windows 7 7264
Dox nvidia Driver
Overclocked 15 %

3DMARK06 10960

Best yet!

 

Yeah I checked stocks and a lot of places still don't have it. Personally I'm getting one in Virginia tomorrow.

From what I've heard 15% isn't gonna hurt it at all. And let's face it, if overclocking was gonna kill hardware, it would never be an option in the first place (at reasonable levels). And yes I would think this would kill your friends dual 8700s. 8700 is not that great, dual or not. It's not even close for him, so you can rub it in lol. With 2.53 ghz and once you overclock you can also match his CPU.

 

These laptops are being snapped up like hot cakes!
My 2 local BB have both sold there initial stock in less than a week.
Probably one of the reasons they tacked on another $50 to the price.
No OCing does not hurt if it's done at reasonable levels, that's why most manufacturer installed OC'ing tools generally give only a 15% to 20% boost.
But of course if you wan't to have a scorched earth mentality and have to kill every benchmark record, yes you are indeed hurting and putting a huge strain on the hardware in your laptop .

 

also, another point i meant to mention
if the w90 is grabbing 15000 on 3dmark06, why are we only getting just over 10k with similar processors and ram? is the 4870m chipset that much better than the 260m? I say this because the 4870m's that are used in the w90 are the ddr3 versions, and the ddr5 was what put the 4870s in a really good position compared to the nvidias of similar price.

and does the bb g71gx still have the subwoofer on the bottom as the older g71s did, or did they nix that with the led display screen?

 

Woah...
No love from CNET at all:
http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/asus-g71gx-rx05/4505-3121_7-33695862.html?tag=mncol;lst
At least it's good with games?
Makes me wonder...
Maybe I should grab the Gateway FX's that recently came out,
Gateway's FX benchmark scores are nearly the same as the G71 (surpassing a bit actually) and has a huge fanbase...
But the Asus G71 sounds like a great deal!
Good thing I have a few months to decide...
Would someone be able to help me with this burden,
it's been eating me up for weeks, which laptop to grab...

 

da1writer
im not positive on this, but im pretty sure the ram capabilities of the fx are stuck at 4gigs, albeit it is ddr3 memory. and by the numbers, the asus has a better gpu, which im sure will benefit from future drivers more than the 9 series within the gateway.
also, the last time i checked the gateways they had only a 2.26 core 2 or 2.0 quad availible. but the more expensive model comes with the quad and a better screen res like the asus.

I'd back the asus personally because of the newer gpu and expandability options.

 

Don't listen to one review. There's plenty of people who love the laptop too on Best Buy after the BIOS update. There ARE shortcomings but think about the price and if those things really matter to you that much. I also wanna know how it's possible the Sony laptop outperformed this one when it has a much slower CPU and GPU is worse?

Also, does anyone know how safe it is to clock the GPU back to stock speeds? (also what's better, Rivatuner or NVIDIA System Tools?)

 

There is 2x4870 video cards in the W90 thats why they get 15,000 3d marks , make sense now ? .

 

If your going for stock GTX 260M speeds neither, flash the bios, pointless to setup an overclock using means meant to be temporary.

 

i thought the crossfire and sli only increased power by about 40-60% of the cards max.

so im flipping how i thought about this now
i used to think that the vram would matter, like 512 + (40% of 512) = the 4870 chipset with about 768mb of vram

but basically its like having 1 4870 with 1 gig of vram, running at 150% then?

 

Sorry clutch a little confused what you mean here. If I flash the BIOS it will still be downclocked speeds right? I wanted the actual GTX 260M speeds.

 

If your running FEAR and its only using 75mb of vram, which is all it does it wouldnt matter. Even Grand Theft Auto 4 doesnt go over like 480 mb. I havent measured all my games but im sure most of them dont even come near what i have onboard (512) except gta 4 and maybe one other.

 

Use GPU-z to dump the bios, Use Nibitor to edit the "extra" speed to the stock speed or overclock it past if your feeling lucky lol save it then use a dos bootable flash drive and use nvflash to flash the video card bios. Same method as used by other owners same method we use to overclock the G50's without having to set it in software which doesnt always work for us.

 

Thanks, that clears it up. I think I'll play it safe and go by what it should be though and not go any further. Any concerns I should have while doing this? Is the editing simply changing a number? Also, what constitutes a "dos bootable flash drive"?

 

You can look through the guide for the G50 - http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=357807

But basically when you open the bios in Nibitor there is a Clockrate tab and the xtra one is the one it uses in gaming change the 500 to 550 (or whatever the clocks are) and change the shaders to match the GTX 260M speed as well, memory should be the same speed on the ASUS card and the normal speeds for the card.

As per the guide for 9800M GS overclocking download the HP usb format utilitiy and on that download page is a download for the windows 98 dos files. Find a usb flash drive if you have one and format it as a bootable disk telling the utility where the windows 98 files are.

I am pretty sure some other owners have already done this but to be sure nvflash has a switch to check if the memory on the video card is compatible before doing the flash. Type nvflash at the command prompt and it should tell you what all the commands are. The nvflash utility is linked in the 9800M GS Guide.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knu-gjp_M5Y
another related note,

 

whats the hard drive in this thing? like brand and RPM? how far can you overclock the quad?

 

The Crysis Demo was soo good
That's a lesson to ya folks learn how to use a camera before recording clips.
A for effort but sloppy execution.

 

Psh, screen capture software for the win, havent ever used it for gaming though been tempted. Not sure how well it works if your pushing the gpu though.

 

i think screen capture would be CPU based wouldn't it?

 

You still have to dump the image from vram X number of times per second. In theory would slow the gpu a little. As i said never used it for gaming, id figure you could easily do it if the game was getting 60 fps and had power to spare but lets say crysis is doing like 34 fps i wonder what the extra work would do to it.

 

who knows until you try?

 

Seriously. What IS up with that. The G71's processor is newer and faster than that Sony's, why is it slower? Agh computers, just when you think you know everything.

PS - I'm about ready to buy this laptop by the end of the week. Any other concerns I should be aware of?

 

yeah. why are more people getting the dual core over the quad core? people complain about "futureproofing", yet they still get the dual. what's with that?

 

Well, by the time a fast dual-core slow for comfort, a person would most likely have upgraded already. And, honestly, a Q9000 is the runt of the current quad family. In a a year of so the Q9100 will probably affordable.

 

Im going quad next time but to be honest unless its like the G51 where one model is a 2.0 Ghz Dual and the other is a 2.0 Ghz Quad where i will still get the same single and dual threaded performance from the quad i would definitly take the quad. But when going between a more powerful dual core and a less powerful quad, id only take the quad if enough stuff needs it like 3 games i own.

The only affordable quad on the market is the 2.0 Ghz Q9000 the 2.26 Ghz Q9100 is 500 dollars more from hp and alot more if buying it for the asus. The Q9200 is rare and the QX9300 is an extreme cpu so very high price.

Only when u shop on ebay and buy QX9300 ES models does it get cheap.

In a year or so we will be rocking Core i3/i5/i7. The clock speeds are lower but they will outperform C2D / C2Q that are higher clock speeds.

 

I was wondering bottom line which should i get
G51 or the G71 (both being from best buy)

 

G71 definitely- Bigger screen (17.1"), better CPU (Core 2 Duo 2.53GHZ), more ram (6GB DDR2) and a bigger hard drive (500GB 5400RPM).
The G51 only has a 15" screen, core 2 Duo 2.0GHZ, 4GB DDR2, and a 320GB 7200RPM hard drive...
Which would you get? The answer would be pretty obvious to me...

Thanks for the vid but in all honesty, putting Crysis at [vanilla] very high settings is not that impressive. Some one do a video of Crysis running with the custom settings of C.U.D.A.A.T.S. at Level 5 and then I'd be impressed. Level 5 C.U.D.A.A.T.S looks tons better than Vanilla Very High settings and has better performance too.
Can someone upload a video of that on youtube running on the G71?

 

depends on what u gonna use it for. like me im going to college so i get the g51 cause its lighter so i can carry it around and smaller

 

^ the g51 is SLIGHTLY lighter. It's impossible to feel the difference in a backpack. Don't base your decision on that. I can imagine the g51 also has a little bit better battery life due to screen size, though I dont know if it has as good of a battery.

 

I think I am going to buy this from exotic pc....anything I should know? Is this the best deal? I really want it for the 1900x1200 resolution and the fast cpu.