Ok. I can finally confirm that the dispIO temperature reading is the accurate core reading that we should be paying attention to.
My desktop 4870 with CCC's ati overdrive (why don't we have overdrive available for our m5870?) has the temp reading windows. The dispIO temperature reading always matches the GPU temperature reading. The mem and shader are always much higher. So there ya go.
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Good news! Thanks man!
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Nice, moved you up on the leaderboard. Puts evensen007 a Vantage run from being pushed off.
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Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!
Thank you Mandrake, I will enjoy my short lived time around the top for now
Came back to inform on the 10.3 drivers with Tom Clancy HAWX, Holy Crapola a 230% increase on stock clocks. When I first benchmarked this game I was getting an avg. 42 FPS; it looked and played smooth while giving me FPS a little less than half my desktop (which made sense to me). Now with the 10.3, I get an avg. 97FPS with 200 High and it rivals my desktop.
The 10.3 opened up a can of whoop@$$ on this game, good thing I still like playing it every so often.
2/26/10 Update:
oops, 230% was too good to be true. I must have made the mistake of not selecting DX10 starting the game and therefore ran in DX9. With the 10.3 previews we get Avg. 46FPS and 141HIGH and that's upping the Ambient Occlusion to Very High. Still, a real good increase.
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How did you O/C the GPU so high? Did you open up the bottom and have a cooler blowing fan in while doing that? Or is that all stock cooling?
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Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!
ziddy, My Zalman cooler is always under my G73, it's only a matter of Low (dead silent, decent flow) or High (audible and more flow). I do take off the memory panel for Vantage runs.
I got to that OC by being dissapointed with my GPU score vs. clock that other people are getting (i.e. running the same GPU clock as another user would always produce a lower score for me). While clock for clock, I fall short with other G73's, I apparently have more head room and have taken it to 890x1200, but the score was flattening and it seemed like 874x1200 gave the best Vantage. I don't go that high with anything else.
I go to 860 on the Unigines and I'll run games at 800x1100 only if I need to for smooth play or just to see what the improvement would be for bench purposes.
I am with Mandrake on this one, I don't game with an OC GPU unless I have too and so far I don't. Dirt 2 gets the lowest FPS so far and even with it's FPS that would make people worry, it is butter smooth.
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Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!
These 10.3's are pretty impressive over the included drivers:
I'm getting a 22% increase on Grid running the same track without too much of a racing variance. Grid with stock clocks heats up my GPU more than Vantage with 874x1200, go figure.
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An 18% increase on NFS Shift running the same track without too much variance. Unfortunately, the first negative report is a collision detection bug in this game now. Most noticable in chase view, if you so much as trade paint, the screen will jerk/skip. If you race clean and don't touch a lot, it doesn't matter, but getting in a wreck is no fun to watch now.
Recap:
10% increase in Dirt 2
230% increase in Tom Clancy HAWX 2/26/10 Update:
oops, 230% was too good to be true. I must have made the mistake of not selecting DX10 starting the game and therefore ran in DX9. With the 10.3 previews we get Avg. 46FPS and 141HIGH and that's upping the Ambient Occlusion to Very High. Still, a real good increase.
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I tried playing modern warfare 2 for 2 hours and my max temp for gpu is 75c is this good? I am running my nc1000 zalman cooler at maxed.
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Haven't experienced this myself.
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Yes, very.
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Did you guys hear about the upcoming Intel 600GB SSDs being released this year? Imagine a pair of those in this baby
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ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer
Encoding is always 100% on all cores unless something else bottlenecks it or you have a way to force it to throttle down. But thats ok if I can get 3ghz stable thats going to be a lot faster than the W90 was @ 2.7ghz encoding.
Just a matter of priorities now... bills first, then later SSD upgrade or CPU upgrade I will have to pick one. As for my game benchmarks its my 2 days off work. Sunday night I will have 2 more games. Though with all the feedback about the 10.3's I am kinda tempted to update.
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Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!
The collision bug or FPS increase?
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I can't even begin to fathom how much they'll be charging for those--
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I decided to answer this question visually since it should be easier to understand.
I am sure most of you know the general statement about how and extremely expensive item may cost you an arm and a leg. As simulated by this image.
Well the new Intel drives are more complicated, its hard to determine what body parts are required since there is so little of the body left, so its just best displayed as a percentage.
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Fixed it for you.
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no no no no, that is included in the 97%
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It is? I thought it was just any 97%. Well, at least I can't disagree with the WoW comment.
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Well.. At least their current offerings will be cheaper..... right? <<
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I played this pretty heavily last weekend at my brother's house which is why i decided to pick it up for the PC so I could do the single player missions (we did multiplayer mostly.)
Compared to the 360 there is no contest, the PC looks like a different game with DX11. I had some serious screen texture flashing issues with my 5850 but disabling AI in the catalyst control panel fixed it. Odd that none of my other games have this issue and it got worse after I installed the 10.3 betas on my rig. If you are a fan of Aliens or Predator you will enjoy the game but I can't necessarily say it is worth the full asking price. If you can get the game for $30 or so it is worth it. All missions start off slow but eventually pick up pace and honestly I've been more "frightened" by this game then I ever was with Resident Evil 5. The marine missions are far and away the best of the 3 campaigns because there is too much melee with the others and they feel week in comparison which is a shame since they play so awesome (stealth and crawling up walls.) There are times when 5-6 aliens are coming at you and you seriously feel overwhelmed that you are going to die which is neat compared to most FPS. The aliens will also split up and some go on the walls, some head on, and others will try to flank you. The AI is pretty impressive overall.
There is nothing ground-breaking about the game that makes it stand out, but it is fun if you are a fan of any of the movie series. The sound is spot on and with my 5.1 setup you can hear aliens crawling around in the back surrounds which is really cool
I have a 3.5ghz quad core q6600 oc'd with a 5850 SLIGHTLY oc'd (very, very mild) and only 2GB of DDR2 ram and it runs great on this machine max everything. I don't see it being a problem on the G73. -
Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!
^ nice, thanks
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Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Considering how new the SSD is still I wouldn't expect that. Look at how long it took for HDDs to drop in price. Almost 10 years. I bought my 100GB 7200RPM drive for my Asus G1 for $100 only 3 years ago. For $100 you can get almost 500GB now. It wasn't until SSD were introduced that I saw HDD prices go down. So unless a replacement for SSD arrives, I wouldn't expect SSD prices to drop for a long while.
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Temperatures remaining stable without any extra cooling, all stock cooling.
Asus Catalyst 9.12
ATi Catalyst 10.3 Beta
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nice score, ziddy123. I upgraded my driver to 10.3 so I'm expecting improvements, you should install 10.3 also and see if there are improvements.
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lols, euisungkim, I did install the 10.3s. That's why I posted two benchmarks to show comparison between the 9.12 and 10.3.
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So how does the Asus G73 compare to say an Alienware?
This Alienware uses an Intel Extreme Quad and SLI Nvidia GTX 280
The G73 performs incredibly well in comparison as you see.
http://www.notebookforums.com/thread230052.html
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Oh, haha I thought they were both combined
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This is comparing a C2D system vs a Core i7. You need to compare with the M17xR2. The completely different architecture of the i7 makes both the GPU and CPU comparison invalid.
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Sorry if I missed it, but are the 3DMark Vantage scores set at High or Performance levels; 1080p or default 1280X1024 - which is what 3DMark goes to when I first boot it up? I get comparable scores at performance levels with the default of screen res 1280x1024:
<<< System Information >>>
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System Model ASUSTeK Computer Inc. G73Jh
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz
Physical Memory 8 GB
Graphic ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series
Video Memory 1,022 MB
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium (6.1.7600) 64-bit
Application 3DMarkVantage
<<< Result >>>
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< Main Result >
3DMark Score 9,586.1
3DMarks Graphics Score 9,264.5
CPU Score 10,700.6
< 0 >
Jane Nash 28.8 FPS
New Calico 25.5 FPS
< CPU Test >
AI Test 1,483.2 operations/s
Physics Test 14.1 operations/s
< Feature Test >
Texture Fill 31,665,448,478.0 texels/s
Color Fill 3,767,556,744.0 pixels/s
Pixel Shader 30.5 FPS
Stream Out 27.6 FPS
GPU Particles 33.9 FPS
Perlin Noise 86.0 FPS
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Vantage scores from Ken @ GenTech PC with a Sager NP8690 that is a single GTX 280m with i7 920 Extreme O/C
G73 still wins. This is a better comparison I thinks. Both systems are overclocked.
vs my it's over 9000!!! score
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Hey Bad Company 2 beta players. Mind posting benchmark test with BC2 with the new 10.3 drivers please?
I know someone mentioned getting average of 59 FPS but can we get a screenshot?
Thanks.
I believe all the P### scores are for performance. That's what I set mine at. This is standardized for comparisons I believe. Just go to options, set all to performance and run. That's what the P standards for. 1280 1024 resolution performance settings. -
Thanks, Ziddy.. I need to dl FRAPS and I'll do a run through for ya on BC2..
And thanks for the answer on 3D Mark... a big "doh" on my part.. I'm learning..
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Hmm comparing apples to oranges really. Here's mine with the 4870s:
I'll be putting dual 5870s in it next month, then we can compare GPU's directly
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Better. In synthetic benchmarking both the 4870 and 5870 out score any of nVidia's current offerings. Now with dual 4870s people are scoring P14K+ in Vantage. I would expect P16K+ with dual 5870s.
Edit: Didn't see Joker's post before posting.
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The thing still lacking is the CPU score. I really hope when AW releases the 5870s it's a brand new system with different BIOS options.
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I wouldn't bet on it though there is the remote possibility with USB 3.0 depending on when they release it. More than likely it's going to be a simple GPU update and a bios revision (same one I'm running most likely). Their next revision of the system is going to be a complete (plastic) redesign and I think that's the one which will have the USB 3.0 etc. Probably Jan-Feb of next year. The M17x CPU heat sink is heat limited, even if they put in a TDP limiter it would do little good because the chip would fry or hit TJMax very quickly. I did a simple test right now with one step up in voltage and the CPU hit 90C on core 0 with a vantage run and that's with no bios OC. The paper thin copper simply can't handle it and I don't ever see Dell offering a TDP limit remover on any of their machines--nagshead made that much clear to me.
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Possibly, the M1730 seemed like it stuck around for 2 years before they stopped sales on it. I'm hoping for something completely redesigned in the summer-fall time frame...fingers crossed.
Same goes for the G73. I can fry my system within a minute if I wanted to. I still want the ability there so I can take that into consideration and add the extra cooling myself. -
I wouldn't mind having it either since I plan to copper mod the system but like I said, I brought it up with nagshead and basically the chance of it happening are as good as hell freezing over.
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1. Too big
2. Too Glossy
3. Too nVidia
I can over-look 1 and 2 but not 3.
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Ive got my eyes on that system ATM but going to wait till Cebit and see if they announce the 5870s for it ...
Im concerned about the screen more then anything because the M98 shared the same screen as the W90 and i did not like the W90 screen much at all ....
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The X8100 will definitely have 5870s, I think they already announced support for it. The screen will be a dual lamp CCFL which is a step back but that probably because there are a lack of LED backlit displays at that size. Clevo should have just gone with a 17.3" screen instead. -
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It was confirmed by a reseller the screen is not Dual lamp even though some resellers state that it is ... I wish it were though... I can live without LED if the screen is bright but the W90 screen was very dim and the Edge2Edge made it even worse because the lack of brightness and then the glare....
I tried to get confirmation on the 5870s for that machine but no one can say for sure it will .... I know they were announced already for the 15inch and 17inch models but not the X8100...
I cant see why it would not have them but ya never know...
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I can see it happening around the 1 year anniversary of the "All Powerful" M17x but if that were to happen a new teaser campaign from Alienware should be starting soon.
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Well even if something is teased around summer, I wouldn't count on a new platform until January (lower tdp i7's, fermi mobile etc). It seemed as if this new system they're designing was still very much on the drawing boards as I was told it would "blow me away". Yeah I doubt a plastic system is going to be blowing me away..sigh. Sorry to take this thread so OT guys. -
That's when another refresh for Sandy Bridge will happen.
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I won't/can't say anything else because I don't know any details.
All is I know is that I am stoked for this Summer
Asus G73 Benchmark Thread
Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Mandrake, Feb 8, 2010.