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    Asus G73 Benchmark Thread

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Mandrake, Feb 8, 2010.

  1. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    nice. i'm liking this notebook.
     
  2. teegunn

    teegunn Notebook Guru

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    My GPU is running warm - when gaming gets over 100c (109 high) and while idling it sits between 62 and 69. These are warmer than normal temps, correct? No OCing of anything.
     
  3. trulsrohk

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    Yeah, looks like a title that will not be able to run smoothly at max settings that's for sure.

    I may pick it up and give it a run tomorrow to see how it goes
     
  4. trulsrohk

    trulsrohk Notebook Consultant

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    Yup, that's pretty high

    Mine hits about 92 at absolute max, are you currently running 10.2 or what for your drivers?
     
  5. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    that's not cool. :(
     
  6. teegunn

    teegunn Notebook Guru

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    I hadn't even checked them yet - running what came with it stock. Here's what the device manager says I'm running:

    8.683.0.0

    Where do I DL updated drivers?
     
  7. teegunn

    teegunn Notebook Guru

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    I'm DLing the 10.2 drivers - I assume these are the latest (most stable) drivers I need then? Also, when I uninstall the current stock driver, will I need to run a drive cleaner or can I just uninstall then reinstall the 10.2 driver?

    Thanks.
     
  8. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    use 9.12 hotfix or 10.3 beta
     
  9. teegunn

    teegunn Notebook Guru

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    Argh - OK I'll google for 10.3. Do I need to run a driver cleaner?
     
  10. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    you should
     
  11. teegunn

    teegunn Notebook Guru

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    PHP:
    alright, will run the cleaner. Are these called the "preview" beta 10.3 drivers?
     
  12. teegunn

    teegunn Notebook Guru

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    thanks for the help BTW
     
  13. teegunn

    teegunn Notebook Guru

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    Uninstalled, ran driver cleaner, reinstalled 10.3's - it's running just as hot, if not even a bit hotter. Crap.
     
  14. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    what was you running before?
     
  15. teegunn

    teegunn Notebook Guru

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    Idling between 60 and 69, high's during gaming 100+. Highest I saw was 109.
     
  16. janp105

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    Those temps are too high. make sure your not blocking the vents.
     
  17. teegunn

    teegunn Notebook Guru

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    Nothing is blocked. In fact I have it propped up. I just ran 3dmark06 at stock clocks, and it seems to have not gotten to a max temp nearly as high with the new drivers. Max temp of 90 on GPU runnning 3dmark06. When I got the 109 temp I had been runnin FEAR 2 for about an hour, so maybe that was pushing it too much.
     
  18. teegunn

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    BTW - my score on 3dmark 06 was 12405 at stock clocks and turbo mode on. I scored 13057 when I upped the clocks to 799/1099 respectively, but only had it OC'd for that one run which was about a week ago. That shouldn't have damaged the card I don't think.
     
  19. teegunn

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    Just re-ran 3dmark06 - OC'd at 799/1099 scored 12814 with a high temp of 93. This was with the 10.3 drivers. When I ran 3dmark06 with the stock drivers (8.36 or whatever they were), with the clocks the same (799/1099) I scored 13057. The only difference is this time I was running the temp utility in the background. Quite a difference between those scores it seems.
     
  20. ViciousXUSMC

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    Metro 2033 Owns the G73 in Very High (maxed out)

    [​IMG]

    Its up to about 20fps average on High so its playable, and with an overclock it should be good to go, similar to the Crysis days where 25fps average is "good enough"

    I dont have time tonight to run all the benches on lower settings or compare visual quality but this is just a worst case scenario Metro 2033 is playable on the G73, but many many other laptop owners wont have such good luck.
     
  21. trulsrohk

    trulsrohk Notebook Consultant

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    so there is reason to get a gaming desktop still...dammit!

    :p
     
  22. ViciousXUSMC

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    desktops are not fairing much better. Its just a reason to boycott horribly coded console port games.
     
  23. trulsrohk

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    hmmm...I was under the impression that it was primarily a PC game first, it is only avail on 360 other than PC.

    Now you could def make the argument that it's coding just like crysis does definitely not do a great job of making the most of hardware
     
  24. teegunn

    teegunn Notebook Guru

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    Well my G73jh locked completely up - as in shut down completey 15 minutes into FEAR 2. I would only assume heat issues. I let it sit for several hours and have just now used a paper clip on the small reset hole/button on the bottom. Otherwise even pressing the power key did nothing - flat dead - until I paper-clipped the reset on the back. It shouldn't be getting that hot just playing FEAR 2 for 15 minutes. What should I do with this thing? RMAing it will take months. It's been almost 2 weeks since they were supposed to send me my replacement HDD (my original HDD quit completely a week into ownership) and it still has not arrived, imagine the wait for an entire new rig. This is not buyers remorse - this is disappointment in a machine that is not performing correctly. Asus hasn't even been able to send me a replacement HDD after a week and a half. I had to NewEGG one overnighted myself or I wouldn't even have been using this laptop. I refuse to pay a New Egg restocking fee for a faulty laptop either. Hell, I don't want to RMA it, I just want it to work correctly.
     
  25. teegunn

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    Is there a fan control utlity available for the g73jh yet? I would like to at least monitor the fan speeds, if not control them myself.
     
  26. teegunn

    teegunn Notebook Guru

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    I'm running HWINFO32 and it is showing all four cpu cores running at steady 2.8 - no matter if turbo mode is on or not - this does not seem right, does it?
     
  27. trulsrohk

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    that seems quite wrong...mine fluctuate quite a bit

    It does really sound as if you have a bad egg, or one something somewhere just kinda screwed over the entire cooling system or something.

    Only thing I could suggest at this point would be to do a completely clean install on it, grab the drivers off asus support and see if it is still experiencing the same issues
     
  28. Mandrake

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    hwinfo32 doesn't show the proper turbo speeds for all four cores but your CPU is probably running at 100%. You can use power4gear hybrid reduce the amount CPU utilization.
     
  29. teegunn

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    I was in high performance mode on power for gear - switched to entertainment and the cpu clocks went down to 900. This things still seems to be running warmer than it should though.

    I already did a clean install after my original HDD locked up. So I don't think that was the problem. Not really sure what my options are right now - if this thing is going to be running hot consistently, it will shorten it's useful life - not what I want. It seems to be running OK right now as I type, but the temp readings are worrisome. Plus I don't know how many have had complete system shutdows from running a game like FEAR 2. Seems odd.
     
  30. Mandrake

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    10.3 driver will make th system run hotter. Run the drivers that came with the system.

    Also if you have the skill set you may want to check on the status of the GPU fan, thermal paste and heatsink.
     
  31. teegunn

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    I just installed the 10.3's last night on advice from others here that the original (8.036?) drivers may have been the problem. I can go back to the originals, or go to the 10.2's which I have DL's also. What about the 'hotfix" for the originals - is that worth trying?


    I can figure out the thermal paste/heatsink, but would rather not tear apart the rig just yet. The status of the fan - I am looking for a utlilty that can read fan speeds or better yet can control the fan speeds.
     
  32. Mandrake

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    10.3 raises the performance of the cards but that equals more heat. The original Asus drivers should work with no issues. You can try 10.2 to see if there is a difference.
     
  33. teegunn

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    I was having overheating issues with the original drivers also. In fact, my 3dmark scores were higher with the orginal cards. I will try the 10.2's and if that doesn't help go back to the original drivers.
     
  34. Mandrake

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    Unfortunately I don't think your issue is driver related.
     
  35. evensen007

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    The official 10.3's will be out this morning. Not sure how they will be different from the 10.3 betas.
     
  36. teegunn

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    I tried the 10.2s I DL'd - they wouldn't install - maybe the DL was corrupted. I then reinstalled the 8.638 stock drivers. Still running about the same temps - which seems to be 5 to 10 degree's C above what others are reporting, but I do think the stock drivers are a bit better. Ran another OC'd (799/1099) 3dmark06 and scored 13014 so it seems the benchmarking performance was decent. Got to a high of 92 on the GPU - had the rig propped up for maximum cooling. Ran FEAR 2 for about half an hour it peaked to 100 C. Still seems warm, but wthout tearing it down to check the thermal paste/heatsink I think I've done all I can do driver/software wise. Considering underclocking for everyday use, but really that's not the bleeping point of having a laptop like this. Not sure Asus will even do anything about this issue unless it causes hardware failures consistently, like it has a by alread crashing the entire system needing a reset from the pin-hole on the underside of the unit.

    Question: What would other members do in this situation? Just live with the higher temps or try to get Asus to RMA a new unit or do a refund?
     
  37. Mandrake

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    I would open it up an check everything out. If that wasn't an option I would definitely RMA it asap and get a replacement.
     
  38. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    .......................nvm wish i could delete my posts
     
  39. teegunn

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    Yeah I'm gonna see if I can find any obvious issues inside, if not then probably RMA. Sucks but not a lot of choice unless I just decide to live with the higher temps.
     
  40. Geared2play.com

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    i dont think they are heat issues. i have an rma open for the same reason. i should have the customers notebook back in a few days. Reported lock ups with mouse frozen playing dirt as well as bsod in 3dmark. This would be my 4th rma
     
  41. trulsrohk

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    Just curious, roughly how many is that in percentage to how many you have sold?
     
  42. teegunn

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    Well my unit seems to run hotter than what others are reporting. This is not a good thing for a laptop as we all know. What besides the very high temps (mine registered 109 in FEAR 2 one instance) do you think it would be? I mean, not all the sensors can be faulty. Just seems something is running warmer than it should. I've gotta drive 985 miles across 3 states tomorrow won't get a chance to crack mine open for a look but I doubt I'll be able to figure out the problem that way anyway. Will try at least.
     
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    not inclusing this week about 15%. No defects this week and this week made more work then the 5 weeks prior. if i find something interesting i will add it to our rma log which eventually makes it to my forum.
     
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    What others are reporting? Others report that arctic silver and the likes can lower their notebook temps a whopping 10 degrees. User reports are unreliable often. To accurately say that "my notebook runs hotter then the rest" you have to test the notebooks in a lab environment. I would not assume that you are having problems due to overheating. overheating on a new notebook is least of likely suspect. You have better chances of your cpu frying.
     
  45. teegunn

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    From what others I've seen here posting screenshots for temps, mine seem to be runnng higher. My laptop is propped up, nothing near any intake or exhaust vents. AMD GPU clock tool showing, 61/67/63 respectively for the GPU. I have had a couple completely lockups of the laptop while playing FEAR 2 - had to reset with the pinhole on the underside of unit. I have also recorded a high temp of 109 on the GPU. Can I prove all these things to you online - not really - but I wouldn't be here looking for a solution otherwise. I may also mention I have already had to have a new HDD installed because the original completely quit/locked/whatever description you want to give it. Dead. Never had a HDD do this. Was it heat related - I do not know if it was and at the time did not suspect it was heat related. I could have been but I don't think so. Also, as a side note, this laptop "seems" to run cool and quiet - except for the lockups in FEAR 2 and temp readings from AMD GPU say elsewise.
     
  46. Quagmire LXIX

    Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!

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    If you have a typical ambient of 75-78F and that 61/67/63C is idle/light use, then yes, it is at least 10C higher than it should be in my experience. The 109 is off the charts and it's likely a good thing it did shut down.
    My best case scenario guess would be a poor job with the thermal paste contact and you should get on the phone with an Asus tech.

    Q
     
  47. Mandrake

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    These are my idle/web browsing only temps and my system's power scheme is set to high performance.

    [​IMG]

    This is obviously after the work I did internally. So far my highest gaming temp is 80C.
     
  48. Mandrake

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    For those that don't wonder away from the Asus threads take a look at this, LINK.
     
  49. TheCheat15

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    teegun, for what it's worth, I'm getting 55/62/57 just idle/web browsing..and some torrents going too i guess. it's in high performance mode and sitting on my carpet floor.

    So far I haven't been able to push mine over 95C in any benchmarks, the fan just kicks it up a notch and brings the temp right back down.
     
  50. teegunn

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    Thanks for that info - you are definitely running 5 to 10 degrees cooler than I am on average.
     
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