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    Asus G73 Benchmark Thread

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Mandrake, Feb 8, 2010.

  1. betaflame

    betaflame Notebook Evangelist

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    He's idling or running 1 core. I can tell just by looking at it.
     
  2. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    I missed this question....

    You are correct. I was only able to achieve some of the OC'ing I did with a portable AC unit blowing directly into my system. Even a 142Mhz bclk can fry the 920.
     
  3. Mandrake

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    The turbo mode multipliers are extremely dynamic. If you load something like argus monitor you can see the processor speed jumping all over the place.
     
  4. Quagmire LXIX

    Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!

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    I'm sorry betaflame, I'm still not clear, this is the comment that led me to believe you didn't have Prime95 installed. Anyhoo, no worries, you broke out the great info on the ability to OC the BCLK and I thank you very much.
    Please stop torchering your G73 on my requests. :)

    Exactly and thanks for confirming because you are way more experienced than I with OC and you're the only one I know with the 920XM.

    When I tested the raised temps going from 133 to 142 and found next to no real world improvements, I accepted that we just weren't going to be able to achieve good OCing with BCLK adjustments like a desktop does, because the desktop is much easier to add better cooling. When you explained how you could OC the 920XM in the BIOS (turbo multipliers), I turned my hopes to a similar option for the 720 with a BIOS update, but since the TDP isn't there, I let that fade away a little to.
    I'm def going to keep my ear to the roadside on this, but I'd much rather have a working G73 accepting the config I bought it with than to be returning it a third time, but this time for something I fubared ;)

    EDIT: With the exception of OC Epeen, I don't think the BCLK PLL OC will be beneficial for real world use and safety.

    Q
     
  5. freedom16

    freedom16 Notebook Deity

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    Betaflame should make a guide because i am really confused here how to overclock the cpu with this program its just another math language here everyone is talking here, this thread is ON FIRE!!Van halen lol.
     
  6. Keith

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    I can tell you guys that when I overclocked using SetFSB, I encountered a handful of bluescreens before I was able to do the screenshot. I probably pushed it too far.

    I think it's safe to say that all four cores weren't pegged at the overclock in the screenshot. I did a 3DMark 06 run right afterwards and the score was about 12600 ish. Really no difference from normal. No overclock on the GPU.
     
  7. betaflame

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    1) Donate 500 yen to setfsb and send the ID Setfsb reports when run it on your G73JH
    2) Download the newest setfsb
    3) Run setfsb and enter the activation code you got back for setfsb
    4) overclock
     
  8. freedom16

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    I kinda don't trust donating the money and plus its going to take days for it go to through with my bank through pay-pal they probably won't even give me the key right away anyway.
     
  9. betaflame

    betaflame Notebook Evangelist

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    Then don't do it?
     
  10. Keith

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    After I donated, I got the key within 5 minutes. He was very nice and helpful.

    I gotta say though, after playing around with this for a little bit, I don't think overclocking this way is worth it. Just my opinion. :)

    The overclocking headroom is next to nothing. Taking into consideration the experience/advice of those that have commented earlier about this, I don't feel like destroying my lappy.
     
  11. betaflame

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    Without using CPU-tweaker, the ram bottlenecks you, also this is a laptop so heat will become and issue.

    I don't mind $5 for a 15% soft overclock, hell a 920xm for the same thing is $1100 if you order at the store and $600 if you do it yourself (yes I know you can multiplier control the 920xm)
     
  12. cookinwitdiesel

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    Frankly, don't expect much of a real world increase with overclocking.....

    I only overclock when benching, the rest of the time the system is completely stock
     
  13. Keith

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    What did you change your timings to?
     
  14. betaflame

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    I was looking at the 685MHz JEDEC timings, but I haven't had time to actually try the timings AND overclocking. I'd suggest experimenting yourself, the worst that happens is you have to restart.
     
  15. Quagmire LXIX

    Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!

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    I'm not surprised ;)

    All 4 cores wouldn't be pegged at that speed for full load, only the 920XM with its turbo multipliers can try that. What the 720 would/could do and assuming it keeps the x13 turbo multiplier you get on full load with Asus TT off (x12 with Asus TT on), your full load freq would be BCLK * 13 = ??.

    So if your kickin a 150 BCLK, that's 150MHz * 13 = 1.95GHz for all 4 cores/8 threads. For single core load, you would reach 150MHz * 21 = 3.15GHz.

    One really has to study the dynamic and full load nature of these i7 mobiles to get this.

    Only the 920XM with it's BIOS controlled turbo multiplier OC ability can attempt all 4 cores with max turbo multiplier, and you better have a portable AC unit blowing air on it like Mandrake did. ;)

    Wise. Get your Epeen on if you want, but I wouldn't recommend this for normal use.

    Q
     
  16. betaflame

    betaflame Notebook Evangelist

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    Really? My computer bsods only when I hit 155MHz on the bus. What RAM are you using?
     
  17. Quagmire LXIX

    Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!

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    BTW, if you have to "donate" to get the program, it's not a donation, it's a fee ;)

    I love internets word play :D

    Never did get around to a Sanctuary video before my troubles.

    <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Mx1wQDgtTkE&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Mx1wQDgtTkE&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width='640' height="385"></embed>

    Q
     
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  18. betaflame

    betaflame Notebook Evangelist

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    I may as well lay claim to the 720qm 3dmark06 record:
    [​IMG]

    I can only run Vantage once? haha screw that
     
  19. Quagmire LXIX

    Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!

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    <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/cJ-HJoulles&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/cJ-HJoulles&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width='640' height="385"></embed>

    Per a youtube user, Night Shadows are crap and I've found he is correct.

    Q
     
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  20. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Good job! Benchmark added to the leader boards!
     
  21. mew1838

    mew1838 Team Teal

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    Argh this killed my excitement. I thought you guys could run 3 ghz on all 4 cores. This is not a substitute for the 920xm. The q900 overclocked to 2.53 ghz was a substitute for the qx9300. The performance increase of 200 3dmark cpu score is pretty measly for a 10 deg rise in temperature.
     
  22. Mandrake

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    Bclk OC'ing without the ability to control your multipliers would be extremely limiting.

    Edit: My G73 is coming back. It will be 4 weeks when it finally gets here. You think they could have over-nighted it to me after this long.
     
  23. Keith

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    Samsung 1333 memory.
     
  24. betaflame

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    Don't you run into heat issues if you run at 3.2GHz on all cores?

    Edit: I'm running kingston 1333 that came with the laptop.

    My laptop was direct shipped from asus because the retailer I ordered from made an angry call to them because I had been waiting two months. It seems to be slightly different from the G73JH everyone else is getting. ASUS ROG mouse (HP Voodoo) instead of a razer, 1333 stock ram straight from ASUS (instead of the 1066)
     
  25. Dinoo

    Dinoo Notebook Enthusiast

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    A lot of people got that..
     
  26. betaflame

    betaflame Notebook Evangelist

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    The mouse too? every review either professional or independent showed or mentioned the razer mouse. I will say I do actually like the voodoo mouse more.
     
  27. RoninTech

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    Asus ROG mouse, backpack and Kingston 1333 standard up here. Mine also came with a 250GB WD passport. :)
     
  28. Dinoo

    Dinoo Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes... and I doubt it came directly from ASUS. Most likely from the company you ordered, ASUS doesn't ship or deal with customers directly I believe.

    I too got the 1333 RAM and Voodoo mouse.
     
  29. betaflame

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    Interesting that the 1333 RAM and Voodoo mouse seem to be together in the same batches

    The full story is that my retailer called the distributor and had them call ASUS and ship one immediately.
     
  30. Dinoo

    Dinoo Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah, vendors had been asking that for months. You just received it when ASUS shipped it to your retailer. Doesn't matter how hard your retailer demanded the laptop, others including myself had been waiting for around 3 months..
     
  31. betaflame

    betaflame Notebook Evangelist

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    I can't clock my 5870M ram to 1200, it won't go past 1150 w/o a voltage mod. On the other hand, I do have extra CPU cycles:

    3Dmark Vantage - 9609
    [​IMG]
     
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    Unfortunately I can't donate 500 Japanese yuan in Unite States, paypal does not accept my credit cards for foreign payment. Any other solution to overclock CPU?
     
  33. DRevan

    DRevan Notebook Virtuoso

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    "500 Japanese yuan"
    Wait...what? Yuan is in China, in Japan there is Yen :)
     
  34. cookinwitdiesel

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    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Donation my a$$

    Why can't he just grow the balls to say that he is selling licenses?
     
  37. Quagmire LXIX

    Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!

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    lol, maybe it's a tax dodge :D

    Q
     
  38. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    In japan? From US customers?

    I would say it is dodged enough as it is lol
     
  39. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Same thought and same amount of time...

    Congrats though
     
  40. Johnksss

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    anything of interest going on these days?
     
  41. Mandrake

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    The latest version of setfsb works with the G73.
     
  42. betaflame

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    another thing I should mention, although I have not tried it is: SPDtool
    http://www.techpowerup.com/spdtool/

    with it you can techincally tell your RAM that it is a slower speed so the BIOS accommodates, which lets you raise your BCLK.

    Please be careful when changing your RAM SPD values.

    Edit: Nevermind the G73JH is too new. Such is the disadvantage of having brand new hardware :)
     
  43. Mandrake

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    spdtool goes back to Windows XP days.
     
  44. betaflame

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    Also: [​IMG]

    Though anyone who has a more resilient 5870 should beat that no problem.
     
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    yes....so it does...
    and didn't i hear someone complaining about donating 5 bucks for over clocking software....lol
    he must be in the bed right now...lol
     
  46. freedom16

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    Yeah you must be talking about me, Mandrake i would complain and whine and threat to report to the better business bureau for how they have been treating you. I would threat that dell usual gives you overnight shipping if you have to wait so long for a machine to be fixed. Betaflame are those overclocks stable?
     
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    Have you guys compared i7 920xm gaming benchmarks vs. the i7 720xm and see what kind of difference you are getting? Also does the 920xm make the laptop feel that much faster? Would I be correct to state that games with the i7 720xm is still gpu limited by the 5870m right?

    Any way thanks for the huge amounts information in this thread, even though it made my brain hurt. I would like an overall assessment from someone who did the 920xm swap, and tell me how much faster the laptop feels, and if gaming or general speed of the laptop is faster?

    I think it's safe to say from reading this thread, that it's futile ocing the i7-720xm using setfsb, as all four cores will not run at the higher clock rate any way, like the 920xm would. So it looks like it's best to just install the 920xm. I might do that a year down the road though when the warranty expires.
     
  48. betaflame

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    overclocking the 720qm does increase the power in any multithreaded app (most recent games)

    The 920xm does give a small increase in gaming performance, but it is limited by the 5870
     
  49. KipCoo

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    If the 920xm only gives a small increase, than ocing a 720qm must give a microscopic increase that it's not even worth doing?
     
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    It depends on what you use it for. With CPU intensive games (like Flight Simulator) that max out all cores, the extra clock speed is definitely worth it. Most games are not CPU intensive enough to make full use of the base 720QM, so you won't see much improvement by adding processing speed/capacity.
     
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