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    Asus G73 Benchmark Thread

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Mandrake, Feb 8, 2010.

  1. Quagmire LXIX

    Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!

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    Supreme Commander Benchmark Video

    I won't (probably can't) post it directly due to my wallpaper. I am showing some respect for NBRs house :)

    SupComm is a few years old now, but it is a CPU intensive RTS and even the little i7 720QM makes a great showing along with the rest of the G73.

    Q
     
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  2. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    My G73 makes it back to me today, finally.
     
  3. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    And when does the new R2 make it to you?

    CPU showdown between the two
     
  4. Johnksss

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    better start holding out for the new gtx480's/470's


    they are pretty much smoking ati now....
     
  5. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Ya I seen that. I got a 5870, will get a 2nd one of them eventually and just cruise then lol

    Running out of money and still aint got a good job lined up
     
  6. betaflame

    betaflame Notebook Evangelist

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    literally. The new nvidia cards are so not worth it.

    I'm referring to the power, heat, and cost versus performance against a 5970 or 5870. Also note this is the wrong place for a discussion on GFX cards.
     
  7. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    He is a pretty intense bencher, so any increase will get this attention lol

    He is not looking at the price tag as much as he is his HWBot points ;)
     
  8. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    No clue. Definitely not this week. Probably first week of May. :(
     
  9. Johnksss

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    almost thought i was in the AW section for a minute.
     
  10. betaflame

    betaflame Notebook Evangelist

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    Then you would call it GTX480M or GTX480 mobile or GTX480 Go or whatever they call it =/
     
  11. Meever

    Meever Notebook Evangelist

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    Mobile Fermies have already been announced? Damn. Technology sure moves fast.
     
  12. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    before jumping the gun..why not ask instead of assuming?
    "john, is that dt or mobile" " why, that's the mobile version" :)
     
  13. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Yes, the ATi 5870s have been released for the M17xR2 today. Expect the mobile Fermi cards to pop up late summer, early fall.

    I got my Asus G73 back yesterday. They dd replace my system with a new x1. Luckily when I sent it in for repairs I kept my hdd bracket so now I have two. The keyboard does feel better than the last but I'm still missing keys. The space bar seems to be the biggest issue.

    Anyway I "donated" for setfsb but abo has not sent me a license. Hopefully he will today.
     
  14. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    The HD5870 for the M17 Cross-Fire? I don't see it on their website yet.
     
  15. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    M17x, and yes
     
  16. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    No hasn't been anounced yet. No one knows if it will be rebrand of G200 or the 128 core version of the GF100.

    I'll find the info in the Alienware forum where this discussion should be anyways :p
     
  17. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Since this is in the Asus section and should be G73 thread, back to G73, please move discussion of Alienware to Alienware forum?

    These are my benchmarks. Added the games using the 8.74 Drivers

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    Dirt 2: Ultra Settings, no AA.

    [​IMG]

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    Batman 1920*1080, Very High, all settings on except bloom, I hate bloom.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  18. Si3

    Si3 Notebook Consultant

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    Hey mandrake, did you try the keyboard fix trick, where you take the keyboard off and clean the connection to the cable? Apparently for some the ribbon cable is dirt and is causing the slow down. I believe there is a thread on this specific solution which led to the asus forums.

    Also, could explain to me how the overclocking works in the bios with the i7-920XM, and what good numbers I can input for a "don't-want-my-laptop-to-instantly-combust" for the four cores? Thanks!
     
  19. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    @ziddy123: Use thumbnails, it'll make the pics easier to read.

    I did not try cleaning the connection but I can.

    For over-clocking the best advice I can give is test the Asus twin turbo feature separately from playing with TDP, TDC and trubo mode multipliers. Once you see how the proc and temps react you can start playing with twin turbo. Be warned turning on twin turbo without regulating the turbo boost multipliers will cause extreme heat and instability. I cannot give you exact numbers to test with because the system won't react the same way because of ambient temperatures. Just start low and work your way up.
     
  20. Si3

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  21. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Man if that is true Asus needs to be slapped upside their heads. I'll try it tonight.

    BTW, I love the first sentence.

     
  22. Johnksss

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    lol
    he told the owner of the thread to go post in the AW section...rotflmao!

    nice, glad to see you got it back mandrake.

    scook, you going dual 5870's or sticking with the 4800's?
     
  23. jas

    jas Notebook Evangelist

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    That's correct. The NBR G73Jh keyboard issues thread is here, and here's the original post that I made to that thread, regarding this issue. This is be77solo's response in that thread, describing cleaning the connector, and the effect it had. (I also made a similar post to another NBR thread here, about this). Finally it's not dirt, but excess residue plastic from the manufacturing process, that's causing the keyboard lag/electrical resistance, issues, (the original Asus VIP Forum poster's theory, not mine).

    Good Luck..
     
  24. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    May get me an R2 with dual 5870s and a 920xm this summer, not changing anything until July though
     
  25. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    The fermi rumors will be running rampant by then.
     
  26. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Ok, don't be an idiot like me and use acetone to clean the contacts. Who knew it would remove the dark top layer and the contacts themselves! I had to snip off what I ruined, strip the ribbon cable by a half inch an reconnect. Unfortunately I don't see a difference. Every once in a wile a key is missed. Maybe it's just me.

    When I started with the acetone there was a dark layer over the contacts it removed. Then when I stripped the cable the contacts underneath it did look cleaner. Maybe it helped some, who knows.
     
  27. Johnksss

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    i hear ya there.

    im surprised they aren't running rampant now.

    i could have told ya about the acetone...it's what we use when benching with dice. it is the main ingredient in nail polish remover as well...so that cant be to good for anything plastic.
     
  28. spyther

    spyther Notebook Enthusiast

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    After reinstalling Windows 7 and only the core useful drivers, my 32Mark06 marks are:

    W/ Twin Turbo mode: 12112
    WithOUT Twin Turbo mode: 12321

    Yeah, weird. Shouldn't the mark INCREASE?

    Are these scores typical? I think I remember Mandrake getting something like 12600 stock after fresh OS install. Any tips without overclocking? Are my scores low, or spot on?

    Thanks guys!
     
  29. betaflame

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    Completely typical, intel's turbo boost works against it.
     
  30. spyther

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    Thanks for the info, didn't know that. I just got a bench of 12569 by turning down aero settings and stuff. Should I be using Twin Turbo in gaming, or leave it off?
     
  31. betaflame

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    No I would not, setfsb can actually clock the FSB/BCLK up to the point where the turbo boost doesn't hurt it

    normal BCLK:133MHz
    Asus Turbo: 142MHz
    My perfectly stable FSB:152MHz

    Also I would consider using the "AMD GPU clock tool for 5870" for overclocking the 5870 for a significant impact on games, but I'd make it a shortcut and only run it when you are going to game because it gets interesting when you are going on battery.

    see:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=477215
     
  32. Mandrake

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    I use it to remove sap from the inside of my cedar humidors. It technically would have been OK if I would of eased on it a bit.
     
  33. apachehavok

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    Im still wondering why asus claims that twin turbo is for the cpu AND gpu. Thus the twin part. But it doesnt touch the GPU. What gives asus??
     
  34. Johnksss

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    wasn't sure how long you let it sit.
    i just remember that stuff got splashed on a set of my hair clippers and presto-change-o...it was melted...lol
    they still work though.
     
  35. Porter

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    I agree it is kinda false advertising, but I think where they got the twin turbo was because the I7 CPU already has a turbo function built in (up to 2.9ghz), and this is on top of that. Maybe marketing got it messed up not knowning what it was.
     
  36. Mandrake

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    Hi all. I figured out why people score lower with asus twin turbo enabled.

    When your processor is stressed it defaults to the lowest multiplier on all four cores. For the 720QM that multiplier is 13. The bus on these systems run @ 133Mhz. So when under full stress without twin turbo your system runs at 1.729Ghz. Once you hit the turbo button your bus speed increases to 142Mhz but the multiplier goes to 12. :( This means under stress the CPU runs at 1.704Ghz. The turbo button is great as long as your cpu usage doesn't go to high.
     
  37. Quagmire LXIX

    Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!

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    ziddy found this really cool DX11 benchmark called Stone Giant and posted in the Owners Thread and we want all the DX11 tessellation benchies that can be found, so I feel it's worth a ziddy link and video double post for the benchmark thread.


    <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/9ba1nTrwnB8&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/9ba1nTrwnB8&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x3a3a3a&color2=0x999999" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width='640' height="385"></embed>

    Q
     
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  38. betaflame

    betaflame Notebook Evangelist

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    Using MS config to tell windows to come up with 4 threads/2 cores with an 720qm causes the following

    133MHz:
    1core:2.8GHz
    2core:2.4GHz

    152MHz:
    1core:3.2GHz
    2core:2.8GHz

    So locking a 2 cores appears to stop the turbo throttling. It also raised my graphics benchmarks (and lowered the CPU ones). Not particularly useful, but interesting nonetheless for people running single or dual threaded only programs.
     
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    shizdan Notebook Consultant

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    Without reading the 200 pages or so, could someone please giveme so input as to if i is worth the extra heat for overclocking and if the performance boost is worth it....
     
  40. betaflame

    betaflame Notebook Evangelist

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    if you only use it temporarily and when you have a use for it, it's fine.

    Perhaps you're doing 3d modeling or compressing a huge file with 7-zip.
     
  41. Mandrake

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    looks awesome...
     
  42. Abula

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    Real fermi mobile cards? or just another refresh/rename of the G92?
     
  43. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    with nvidia ya never know. ;)
     
  44. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Interesting. So would running the i7 720qm be comparable to the fastest i7 dual core? Although benefit from the on-die memory controller? Since they usually cost the same anyways
     
  45. betaflame

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    I just looked on intel's site, and yes that appears to be the case (when overclocked)

    When not overclocked it's about the same as the 520M (2nd fastest dual core).

    Also this is only the 720qm we're talking about here. If the clock down bothers people that badly, they can just shut off half the cores and run at 2.4 with a turbo to 2.8. Or 2.8-3.2 if you don't mind OCing.
     
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    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I guess there is still the 32nm vs 45nm difference though, shame....they need to get some 32nm quads out!
     
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    There's a tool to overclock the 720qm?! Where?
     
  48. betaflame

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    Back up like 6-7 pages
     
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    Ok guys, i tried 3dmark Vantage, below you could find my results, i was running it with turbo boost on, 10.5 beta catalyst drivers.... with factory 9.12 i had around 7950 only...

    no tweaks, everything stock... are those numbers reasonable, aren't they... temperatures were 72 CPU and 81 GPU at highest...

    [​IMG]

    OK, here below OC'ed with AMD GPU clock to 800/1100, and here are the numbers

    [​IMG]

    in games like crysis it gives me around +5 fps more... am planning to play with this OC all the time, any suggestions? Isnt it too much hard to work all day long with higher numbers than default? I am quite though gamer .... playin all night long :)

    finally, my score with OC GPU 800/1100, turbo boost on

    [​IMG]

    btw, after restart of my lappy on GPU were back on 700/1000, which is correct i assume...
     
  50. Quagmire LXIX

    Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!

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    10.3WHQL provided no discernable improvement on Stone Giant over 9.12 (granted with such low FPS, it's hard to have an accurate comparison without having tenths). Temps were also the same when factoring in ambient.

    700/1000 clocks 4 runs Tessellation H/L/M/H
    9.12 FPS: 17/27/23/18
    10.3 FPS: 18/27/24/17

    OC Testing: (Temp increases noted from Base Run 700/1000 clocks, 2 minute cooldown between runs in order)

    Base Run 700/1000 on 10.3: 18/27/24/17

    800/1000 OC Run 1 on 10.3: 19/29/25/19 +1C Core

    800/1100 OC Run 1 on 10.3: 19/30/26/19 +1.5C Core and +2C MemIO

    800/1000 OC Run 2 on 10.3: 19/29/25/19 +1C Core +0.5C MemIO

    800/1100 OC Run 2 on 10.3: 19/30/26/20 +2C Core and +3C MemIO

    700/1000 Run 2 on 10.3: 18/28/24/18 with no increase in temps :)

    Most notable observation from results: Memory OC provides a boost, but ups the temps.

    Most appreciated fact during testing: No Crashes :D

    @ streetlife Your scores are fine, good job including info, but your pic loading technique is not :) Please resize your pics or use the attachment feature of NBR, thanks.

    Q
     
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