Now here is some interesting results using the 10.6 leaked drivers on 700x1000 clocks: (for the most part, using same controlled ambient temp, but now at home instead of work)
Run1 on 10.6: 19/29/25/18 +1C Core +1C MemIO
Run2 on 10.6: 18/29/25/19 +1.5C Core +1C MemIO
You'll notice that performance is almost the same as the 10.3 OC to 800/1000 and even without using tenths, the result FPS are quite clear.
Just to get a feel for an OC comparison, I OC to 800x1000 for two more runs and I can tell just sitting in the initial Stone Giant animation screen that FPS was up, here are results. (NOTE: my stable ambient is getting away from me now, it's 82F and feels hotter)
Run1 on 10.6: 20/31/27/20 +2C Core +4C MemIO
Run2 on 10.6: 19/31/27/20 +2.5C Core +5C MemIO
So, while 10.3 vs. 9.12 made next to no difference in this benchmark, 10.6 leaked vs. 10.3/9.12 made a noticable FPS difference.
The negative observation here is, there seems to be a little more stutter/glitchyness than the 9.12/10.3 runs. I'll have to make a video and side by side compare. When it comes to this aspect, the 10.6 are still beta while the 9.12/10.3 were WHQL, so that fact has to be accounted for.
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Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!
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What up guys.
Quick question seeing as you guys seem to know a lot about these things heat and power needs.
Im going on a road trip and would love to use my G73. How safe are those inverter things for laptops? You know, the ones that go from the cigarette lighter to a box with 2 or so outlets on them.
I just want to make sure I dont fry my G73.
THanks!
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the G73 can eat 150W of power so the inverter had better be up to the task.
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Some inverters don't allow you to pull a lot of power from the cigarette lighter plug, but do offer more if they are connected directly to the battery. If connecting directly to the battery, I'd make sure that the inverter is fused on both the positive and negative leads.
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All great advice! Thanks!
So, if I have a 300Watt inverter (from cigarette lighter as im not going to wire it to the battery and its a 2010 SUV) just as long as I plug it in after the car is on, should it be ok? Are there any major risks?
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Could someone help me figuring something out? I have installed the CPUID hardware monitoring, however it isn't showing the Radeon's temperatures. Is there something wrong? Please note I have not installed any drivers, it is all the same way it came from BB. Below is an image to show what I mean:
I'm sorry if it is something dumb/obvious; I usually don't mess up with those things but I was just curious and comparing to the stuff you guys/gals show here... I just want to make sure I got what I paid for.
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HWmonitor doesnt display the temps with the original drivers, most just used HWinfo or AMD clock tool to check their temps, i think with newer drivers furmark among other apps do monitor certain censors, but probably check either of the two before since your with stock drivers.
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Anyone think a MXM 3.0b 5870 will work in the G73? I'm think of trying it out.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
I assume you mean one of the Clevo ones? Doubtful it would work for the same reason Asus cards never work on other machines
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Thank you for the reply!
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I know the Asus 5870 won't work in other machines because the PCB is bigger and won't physically fit. That's shouldn't be an issue the other way around.
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Doesn't asus also use reverse MXM cards? With backwards pinouts? It would be awesome to find out this wasn't the case for the g73jh, if it doesn't, then I can upgrade in a few years ^_^
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
I thought they mess with the MXM connector itself and don't use it following the standard (just stealing the size). They have done this in the past for the SSD on their EEE netbooks (using a mini PCI-e shaped plug)
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this time around they seem to left the MXM the right side up but just made the MXM non-standard size.
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I should be getting my M17x soon so my motivation to test may be dwindling.
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getting burnt out mr mandrake?
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with a netbook?
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
I hear you Mandrake....I have grown tired of benching my M17x - ran out of tricks and need to reformat (which I am putting off until after graduation in 2 weeks)
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I decided I will try it. Worse thing that will happen is it doesn't work and I just have to resell it.
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watch out now...i have been known to be a bit dangerous with one of those as well...lol
well...kind of why im over here in the DT world...way to many things to do...but in my case...since that's all i do all day..repair computers and networks...it's right at home with me..... you on the other hand....it might not sit cool with.
but i could definately see you with a mini bench table setup right where your at now.
motherboard sitting on benching board...sorry..real benchers have no cases..
ram
any video card from anywhere...knowing you..high end
cpu .. take your pick..they all bench...new and old.
cooling.... you will need more than just a fan...i could see you with a phase change unit for like 400 bucks...then take it and set it on your gpu in the laptop and run a bench...lol (and im not joking)
or water cooling like mr cook, which goes a long way when you dont have your board in a case.
and still using the g73 or m17x as your high end work horse...
see post up above...
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dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate
i like your backpack that score is way out of my reach
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If I ever decided to build a desktop again (it's been nearly 10 years) then one of my laptops would definitely need to go. I've already jumped to an external keyboard/mouse/monitor/speakers setup so I already feel like it's a desktop.
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i hear ya drake....man, do i hear you!
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I just got the G73 today from Best Buy and I thought before I reinstalled Windows 7 that I would run 3dMark Vantage. This is what I got.
This laptop performs so well and works so good. I have a weird request and I'm sure it's probably against the Terms of Service but I didn't get a recovery disc to reinstall Windows with mine so I was wondering if someone could upload it somewhere. I reinstalled Windows using a different Windows 7 disc and I selected Home Premium x64 and I entered the product key that's on the bottom of the laptop and now it's telling me that I've got 3 days to activate and I just got it like 5 hours ago. So please someone help me out, send me a PM or something so I can get the restore disc somewhere so I can restore my laptop. I don't know why Asus didn't just put one in the box.
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Because you used something different, you can't use the OEM key directly. You need to call Microsoft's auto-activation phone number, enter the OEM key, answer a couple of questions and get a new key.
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Has anyone tried using thermal paste on this laptop?
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Asus recently changed their policy and no longer includes the CD/DVDs, when you boot for the first time you can create your own recovery disks (never tried it but i guess it works fine). Another alternative is to use a retrieving key utility like Orevs and before you format run it and then just run it after when you install should activate the product with the built in key, this worked every time for me under vista... in 7 is beta, but it might work.
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Betaflame
In what fundamentals you are referring when it comes to your signature ??
ASUS ROG G73JH-A2 and couldn't be happier (especially now that we have overclocking for 720qm's)
Core i7 [email protected]
Core i7 [email protected]
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hey skate. I thought Best Buy only had the 1600x900 screens? How are you able to run 3dmark at that res? Mine doesnt let me run 3dmark feature tests because of the res.
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Prob just using external display.
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The URL you included won't work for everyone, because not everyone sees 183 pages, I see 67 pages. On the top right of every post are two links. The numbered link is the post number in the thread and when used only displays that post. The Permalink is an anchor to a post with context. You probably want to use the Permalink. I don't know what post you were attempting to link to, otherwise I would have fixed it and included it here.
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Are you confirming that the 720QM can be overclocked to 3.2
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yes (in turbo)
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LOL
It saunds like chinese to me
It's the PLL, all ASUS P4GH does is simply order the PLL to raise the FSB(BCLK) by editing the PLL Registers.
So if you use setfsb (I was sending abo(the setfsb author) the PLL register dumps from my G73JH) you can change the FSB to whatever you like.
Note that he hasn't released that version yet, and he requests 500 yen ($5) donations to use the software.
1)Go to the setfsb site and read the instructions for donating $5 CAREFULLY
2)Get the ID number for your setfsb WHILE ON YOUR G73JH
3)wait for the official release, or you can use the f and g test builds from his server in the meantime (don't email him about test builds please)
Can you make a step by step procedure
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Maybe you should look up Intel Turbo? While at it do some research on FSB and BCLK.
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such nice people here.
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I guess it was too much to ask that you fix the link you included so that it works for everyone. Nice.
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Yes just a simple link be nice, since the Intel turbo only gets you to 2.8 and yes not everyone knows all the details,
That is the reason I am here to exchange nolige
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I disagree, both games and benchmarks are faster when at 152MHz. Turbo mode (142) causes a decrease in performance in low-threaded apps.
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You're adding extra stress on your CPU, memory controller and memory that is why I said it. If you think you are gaining from this try some additional benchmarks (cinebench is a good one) and monitor the temps of your CPU and memory. Also use a program like argus monitor to monitor your turbo mode multipliers to see what frequency you are achieving. Do this with multiple benchmarks and see if they all act the same.
I think in the end you will see that the negative out weight the positives.
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but when running a multithreaded app there is a significant advantage (say BFBC2)
Edit: or say 7-zip or x264 or whatever
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Someone should create an Asus G73JH wiki.....
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but how do you know for sure? In theory yes but gather the data to see what it's actually doing. How do you know it's not down-clocking itself?
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I agree with this. Especially in the laptop world where heat is truly balanced with power.
If 4 cores at 3.2 would melt it (which while exaggerated I agree with) then what gain are you getting OC'ing on a multithreaded app? Would not more significant gains be garnered from an SSD? If you have one already, I'm betting that there's not a ton of difference between OC'd and standard. Would love to see some benchies though.
Bolded and quoted for amusement.
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these threads are getting to be a bit hostile...
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ROG on ROG hate.
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LOL. You know, sometimes when I read some of these posts it makes me wonder if the proper font is installed in order to allow good character.
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Because I'm running hwinfo and I can see the core clocks? at 4 threads it goes down to its base multiplier, but the bus is 152 so it's still reasonable.
@aramis109
SSDs give you a bonus when I/O is bottlenecking. CPU benchmarks, x264, and BFBC2 (other than map loading, where SSDs really help) aren't affected by SSDs.
The percentage overclock translates directly into about the same percentage increase in CPU benchmarks.
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yes...so i see...
and betaflame:
just run linx 6.4 with max problem size - 64 bit/ have your favorite temp program up / i7 turbo from real temp up / task manger on performance window / and hwinfo.
run the stock with turbo enabled(trying to see just what cores do what and how many glops you get) and then max over clock you can run without crashing. it's suppose to be ran 20 passes, but in this case...you can run it 5 just to see.
http://www.youwatched.com/datajay/linx(0.64).7z
Asus G73 Benchmark Thread
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