I'm more incline to go with the vBios since Asus has been designing VGA boards for nearly 30 years and it's one of their core businesses. And they are so good at it, they are AMD Graphics #1 partner in that Asus gets first dibs and first access to their chips.
So yeah, I'd rather go with Asus still haven't figured out how to make a proper high end laptop vbios. Suspect it was the issue with the 4870M also.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Asus makes one of the best vbios for the desktop 5870 right now....kind of kills your argument. I said what I said because the G73 is a "budget" gaming laptop compared to something like an Alienware or Clevo. There is a reason it costs less.....because there are things they simply cut costs on. I would venture to guess that one such thing was power design for the MXM board.
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Yeah, I still have faith it's the vBios. Gary has said it's in the final testing phase, so hopefully I will be proven right. When it comes to hardware I doubt Asus would screw up like that.
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that main board bios would fix a greater more!
side note:
kinc took an asus w90 to 4 ghz and 20k 3dmark06 back when no one could make the thing do anything....im pretty sure he had an altered bios and the same raggedy vbios that every one else had.
you may think everything is fine...if you haven't pushed your system to find it's many flaws, but if you have..you would understand...it's the bios.
cards are flaking out because they dont have the bandwidth to run right. every 2.0 machine is in the high 9's to low 10's.
every non 2.0 card....low 9's. im thinking this is pretty valid information on which is doing more....but i could be wrong...but i dont think so...
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Also backing up what you said about Kinc, he definitely had a very well tweaked system Bios.....I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that my motherboard BIOS is what is killing me with my laptop....otherwise I would be able to match or beat the i7 920xm in many benches
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side note:
going to grab my backup adapter today...i hate moving my psu around all the time.
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Well of course you will get this higher wattage.....
I know I would be quite happy if I had a 300W for my laptop. Since I can effectively stress the 240W pretty hard as it is...and once I overclock the GTX 280m's.....all bets are off lol -
speaking of that....q56 has already been at it....lol
less than 24 hours later i think...lol
psu:
buti think mandrake said it didnt help at all. which is cool. but for 30 bucks out the door new...i had to grab it!
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Ya I have talked to him some haha. We are up for some head to head though
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whats your take on these 5850's now sam?
now that they have throttlestop/gpu over clocking/920's/940's and pcie2.0 to run on. and benchmarks to prove they are making a serious showing. and are beating a vast majority of 5870's now or pretty damn close to it in other places.
what do you think?
reason why i ask is...people seem to be stuck on the "time they came out" vs "what they can do now"
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Well...having not even known what we know now, I DID recommend you get an M15x
Personally, I would like to see you bench both a 5850/5870 and a gtx 460m since they are out now for the alienware.
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the alienware i wanted..they wanted to much money for it at the time. and the other one i wanted...th woman was kind of flakey and taking for ever to reply to email. this guy i got this one from. came and we hung out for a bit. a cool dude to say the least.
im only mising a few things that can be readjusted in the bios. they fix that..this thing becomes just as strong, but since it aint got done yet...probably will never happen. it's cool. because i dont game on this. i use the ps3 for that. this is for running benches/work/and just having an around fast computer to surf the net.
check out this thread. hopefully it starts at the right point.
people are always quick to point out what intel/amd/nvidia are spec'd for.
when benchmarking blows the specs out of the water...i just dont understand how they dont get this.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/515309-how-fix-your-gsod-blues-47.html -
cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Not sure what you wanted me to get in that thread, read some of it but sort of feeling a TL;DR......please summarize?
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exactly!!!
lol
i used a 5850 from this thread to show the effect of pcie2.0
and well...that got turned into a whole bunch of other stuff...lol
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I just tested my g73 with vantage.
Is my result decent considering the gpu OC?Attached Files:
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Has anyone done any benchmarking on the new COD Black Ops game?
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Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!
Gaming Thread
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I,m in the same boat (or worse) as Ziddy. I've done a clean install of Win 7 ultimate and followed the guide to make sure I've got a slim system. I've done the mod to stop core parking and set all to performance. At stock 700/1000 I get 8055 in 3dM06 and P6328 in Vantage at stock (no OC). When I try to overclock the GPU using AMD OC tool at 800/1000 my system shutsoff (high GPU temps I guess) after the first 5-7 mins of benchmarking.
Do I have a c*&p GPU or could it be dirt in the fins
Does opening it up and putting some paste void the warranty?
I've not touched the Advanced Option in the system confuration (Msconfig). Should I set Number of processors to 4 or 8. I've got the 920QM? -
your on the original bios?
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will updating the vbios increase performance? I'm a little hesitant to do so after my last catastrophe with updating vbios...
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no performance increase. it's a stability fix
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You're supposed to have 8. The i7 is hyper-threaded, 8 threads and Windows recognizes as 8 processes. You gimped your processor in half.
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I wouldn't say half, tho it would more likely disable HyperThreading. (the 4 HT's do not equal having 4 actual cores) Instead, you could alter the benchmark's Affinity for the process and only enable 4 cores.
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Hello.
On first page of this thread i saw that Mandrake succeed with overclocking his 5870m up to 880/1200.
As i saw gpu-z shows 880/1200 as normal values, so it might be connected with RBE
I didn't manage to oc my 5870m with RBE because when i do something in vbios it shows on gpu-z only, all other programms show me 700/1000 clocks, and there is no difference in occt gpu test.
But on default bios when i changing clocks from 700/1000 to 820/1200 i get some fps's in occt gpu test.
So the questions:
How Mandrake managed to oc 5870m to 880/1200 (what voltage have you used)?
What might be the problem with vbios in?
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he was running the original vbios....035992
and most of us cant get past 870/1160, but with the same performance.
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and most of us cant get past 870/1160, but with the same performance.
only a select handful of people can get higher....
I thougt to run past 815mhz core you need to adjust voltage?
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If you read his posts he does not recommend gaming with OC. So if you are thinking of getting 880/1200 for gaming, your dreaming in lala land. If your GPU doesn't OC as well as someone else's then that's just too bad. Nothing you can do about it. You bought the laptop knowing it was HD5870M and it's clearly stated everywhere the HD5870M clocks are 700/1000. If you can OC even a little, then should be happy IMO.
If you destroy your GPU attempting to OC well beyond what the GPU was designed for, then good luck. Even if you can RMA it, you'll probably wait quite a while for it to be fixed. There is a reason why Mandrake quit OCing, he said he found a new hobby after burning out too many GPUs.
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i concur. i use my gpu at normal clocks while running cpu at 3.6 ghz (4 cores)
but if your just benching for numbers...then have at it. also, no such thing as upping the voltage past what is embedded in the card. only way to grab voltage would be to hard mod the card. and then..you can forget about a warranty...... should it break.
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Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!
Nice job oqix!
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This is the Highest STABLE overclock that i can get on my cpu, can go much higher on the gpu, have tested upto 880/1175, can prolly still go higher
I think the cpu OC is limited by the crappy stock Hyundai 1066 ram i have..
Anyway here's a run with CPU@1850Mhz and gpu@ 865/1150
Score - P9588
Max Temps - Cpu:67-69 GPU:77
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just downloaded and ran 3DMark 11, here are the results
3DMark Score - P2428
Graphics Score - 2253
Physics Score - 4130
Combined Score - 2346
This is the max OC i could get on the GPU without it freezing. I was trying to get a decent OC on both GPU and CPU but it proved very difficult as this has a combined test where both GPU and CPU are stressed so any OC on the cpu with the GPU clocks so high was causing it to fail on the combined test. I couldnt even complete a run with turbo mode on with these clocks.
I guess power demand during the combined test with OC on both outstrips the power supply or maybe i just have a crappy CPU, i could never get it to OC as high as some other members..
Runnin Catalyst 10.11 btwAttached Files:
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
Is the physics cpu based or Nvidia PhysX again? Really hope it is CPU based
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
I like that alot
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i got p2136 at stock everything
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
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yeah. that was the laptop. running on a fully loaded factory os.
the 580 got p7632
x2433
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/27755
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kinda poor,my little huge g73 get a score of P2143
Compare to DESKTOP(that's what its task), almost the same as
Core i7-980X OC 4GH+6GB DDR3-1600+HD 5750 -------(P2214)
& Core i7-980X OC 4GH+6GB DDR3-1600+GTS450 -------(P2122)
well,though the cpu is bluffing,anyway,the HD5770,whose parameter looks just the same with 5870m,got P2662 .....well ,still similar
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overclocked cpu to 3.4ghz max and the 5870 to 800/4200. Tried 3dmark 06 and got this!
Result
14,717
Asus G73 Benchmark Thread
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