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    Asus G73 Benchmark Thread

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Mandrake, Feb 8, 2010.

  1. Ruckus

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    I'm more incline to go with the vBios since Asus has been designing VGA boards for nearly 30 years and it's one of their core businesses. And they are so good at it, they are AMD Graphics #1 partner in that Asus gets first dibs and first access to their chips.

    So yeah, I'd rather go with Asus still haven't figured out how to make a proper high end laptop vbios. Suspect it was the issue with the 4870M also.
     
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    Asus makes one of the best vbios for the desktop 5870 right now....kind of kills your argument. I said what I said because the G73 is a "budget" gaming laptop compared to something like an Alienware or Clevo. There is a reason it costs less.....because there are things they simply cut costs on. I would venture to guess that one such thing was power design for the MXM board.

    Asus laptops have never really been of the caliber that their top tier desktop parts are (not even their top tier laptops)
     
  3. Ruckus

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    Yeah, I still have faith it's the vBios. Gary has said it's in the final testing phase, so hopefully I will be proven right. When it comes to hardware I doubt Asus would screw up like that.
     
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    true. it has "some" effect on what's going on, but no where near the bios itself.
    could be as well.
    i have tested may different vbios's and bios's and have come to the conclusion..it's the mainboard bios reaking far more havoc than the vbios. to many voltages and settings that are not in the right place for starters.

    true again. asus is on top next to gigabyte right now. in boards and cards. and gigabyte came a long way.
    i have no faith. that vbios update is going to account for a very very small part in things...but....
    that main board bios would fix a greater more!


    side note:
    kinc took an asus w90 to 4 ghz and 20k 3dmark06 back when no one could make the thing do anything....im pretty sure he had an altered bios and the same raggedy vbios that every one else had. :)
    you may think everything is fine...if you haven't pushed your system to find it's many flaws, but if you have..you would understand...it's the bios.
    cards are flaking out because they dont have the bandwidth to run right. every 2.0 machine is in the high 9's to low 10's.
    every non 2.0 card....low 9's. im thinking this is pretty valid information on which is doing more....but i could be wrong...but i dont think so...

    ps...the clevo bios is even better than our new bios.(meaning it runs smoother) but its still giving damn near the exact same scores in everything i have benched.
     
  5. cookinwitdiesel

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    Also backing up what you said about Kinc, he definitely had a very well tweaked system Bios.....I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that my motherboard BIOS is what is killing me with my laptop....otherwise I would be able to match or beat the i7 920xm in many benches
     
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    at least you have voltage! :eek: :D :p
     
  7. Ruckus

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    Sweet spot for me for gaming etc is 815/1125 so far.
     
  8. cookinwitdiesel

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    And? Look at how much I have to use to do 4 GHz....now look at how much Kinc needed with a properly tuned system bios lol - I would rather have the bios ;)
     
  9. Johnksss

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    then use heaven. that one should be wide open to you.. ;)

    exactly!! but he still has voltage..just think if i had like .500...4.5 here i come...lol

    side note:
    going to grab my backup adapter today...i hate moving my psu around all the time.
    getting the 180 watt one.
     
  10. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Well of course you will get this higher wattage..... ;)

    I know I would be quite happy if I had a 300W for my laptop. Since I can effectively stress the 240W pretty hard as it is...and once I overclock the GTX 280m's.....all bets are off lol
     
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    speaking of that....q56 has already been at it....lol
    less than 24 hours later i think...lol

    psu:
    buti think mandrake said it didnt help at all. which is cool. but for 30 bucks out the door new...i had to grab it!
    i hate packing a psu up all the time...i like one in the bag and one on my desktop. :)
     
  12. cookinwitdiesel

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    Ya I have talked to him some haha. We are up for some head to head though
     
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    whats your take on these 5850's now sam?
    now that they have throttlestop/gpu over clocking/920's/940's and pcie2.0 to run on. and benchmarks to prove they are making a serious showing. and are beating a vast majority of 5870's now or pretty damn close to it in other places.

    what do you think?

    reason why i ask is...people seem to be stuck on the "time they came out" vs "what they can do now"
    and yu usually have a good well round answer for this sort of thing.
     
  14. cookinwitdiesel

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    Well...having not even known what we know now, I DID recommend you get an M15x ;)

    Personally, I would like to see you bench both a 5850/5870 and a gtx 460m since they are out now for the alienware.

    I would probably get an an M17x with one gpu though before a G73 honestly. I have an asus for work and am utterly underwhelmed by the quality....
     
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    the alienware i wanted..they wanted to much money for it at the time. and the other one i wanted...th woman was kind of flakey and taking for ever to reply to email. this guy i got this one from. came and we hung out for a bit. a cool dude to say the least.
    im only mising a few things that can be readjusted in the bios. they fix that..this thing becomes just as strong, but since it aint got done yet...probably will never happen. it's cool. because i dont game on this. i use the ps3 for that. this is for running benches/work/and just having an around fast computer to surf the net. :)

    check out this thread. hopefully it starts at the right point.
    people are always quick to point out what intel/amd/nvidia are spec'd for.
    when benchmarking blows the specs out of the water...i just dont understand how they dont get this.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/515309-how-fix-your-gsod-blues-47.html
     
  16. cookinwitdiesel

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    Not sure what you wanted me to get in that thread, read some of it but sort of feeling a TL;DR......please summarize?

    THANKS ;)
     
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    exactly!!!
    lol
    i used a 5850 from this thread to show the effect of pcie2.0
    and well...that got turned into a whole bunch of other stuff...lol

    that's it.
    at least, that's what i thought. :D
     
  18. Andrei Pavel

    Andrei Pavel Notebook Geek

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    I just tested my g73 with vantage.
    Is my result decent considering the gpu OC?
     

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  19. Voodoofreak

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    Has anyone done any benchmarking on the new COD Black Ops game?
     
  20. spirit32

    spirit32 Notebook Guru

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    not working well. i have low gpu usage and also fluctuating as low as <10 percent and im stuck on prestige 1 lvl 1 too! my lvl wont save. i'll play the sp for a while until they fix the mp!
     
  21. Quagmire LXIX

    Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!

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    I'm not aware of any specific bench for CoD:BO, but I have 4 vids showing settings and FPS during gameplay. Not a demanding game as one could assume.

    Gaming Thread

    Q
     
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    I,m in the same boat (or worse) as Ziddy. I've done a clean install of Win 7 ultimate and followed the guide to make sure I've got a slim system. I've done the mod to stop core parking and set all to performance. At stock 700/1000 I get 8055 in 3dM06 and P6328 in Vantage at stock (no OC). When I try to overclock the GPU using AMD OC tool at 800/1000 my system shutsoff (high GPU temps I guess) after the first 5-7 mins of benchmarking.
    Do I have a c*&p GPU or could it be dirt in the fins

    Does opening it up and putting some paste void the warranty?

    I've not touched the Advanced Option in the system confuration (Msconfig). Should I set Number of processors to 4 or 8. I've got the 920QM?
     
  23. Johnksss

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    your on the original bios?
     
  24. despat

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    Is Chastity's one (think 211) for no GSOD. GPU-z reads 012.020.000.032.038352
     
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    will updating the vbios increase performance? I'm a little hesitant to do so after my last catastrophe with updating vbios...
     
  26. Chastity

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    no performance increase. it's a stability fix
     
  27. despat

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    Chastity or someone,....

    I think I found the problem, In the Msconfig under Advanced BOOT options I had 8 processors. The default was 0 but I put 4 processors. Now The benchmarks don't cause a crash. Should I add something for MAXIMUM MEMORY on the same page?
     
  28. Ruckus

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    You're supposed to have 8. The i7 is hyper-threaded, 8 threads and Windows recognizes as 8 processes. You gimped your processor in half.
     
  29. Chastity

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    I wouldn't say half, tho it would more likely disable HyperThreading. (the 4 HT's do not equal having 4 actual cores) Instead, you could alter the benchmark's Affinity for the process and only enable 4 cores.
     
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    Hello.

    On first page of this thread i saw that Mandrake succeed with overclocking his 5870m up to 880/1200.

    As i saw gpu-z shows 880/1200 as normal values, so it might be connected with RBE

    I didn't manage to oc my 5870m with RBE because when i do something in vbios it shows on gpu-z only, all other programms show me 700/1000 clocks, and there is no difference in occt gpu test.

    But on default bios when i changing clocks from 700/1000 to 820/1200 i get some fps's in occt gpu test.

    So the questions:

    How Mandrake managed to oc 5870m to 880/1200 (what voltage have you used)?

    What might be the problem with vbios in?

    All bioses i talk about are video bioses of course))) mb bios is 0211
     
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    he was running the original vbios....035992
    and most of us cant get past 870/1160, but with the same performance.
    only a select handful of people can get higher....
     
  32. awpe

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    and most of us cant get past 870/1160, but with the same performance.
    only a select handful of people can get higher....

    I thougt to run past 815mhz core you need to adjust voltage?

    You want to say that if you are lucky guy then you will probably get 5870m with the best chip which can run 880/1200 without voltage adjustment?
     
  33. Ruckus

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    Mandrake does not game with OC like that. That was only for overclocking and he used external A/C and modded his heatsink etc etc.

    If you read his posts he does not recommend gaming with OC. So if you are thinking of getting 880/1200 for gaming, your dreaming in lala land. If your GPU doesn't OC as well as someone else's then that's just too bad. Nothing you can do about it. You bought the laptop knowing it was HD5870M and it's clearly stated everywhere the HD5870M clocks are 700/1000. If you can OC even a little, then should be happy IMO.

    If you destroy your GPU attempting to OC well beyond what the GPU was designed for, then good luck. Even if you can RMA it, you'll probably wait quite a while for it to be fixed. There is a reason why Mandrake quit OCing, he said he found a new hobby after burning out too many GPUs.

    But he used AMD GPU Tool to overclock and did not change his voltage.
     
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    i concur. i use my gpu at normal clocks while running cpu at 3.6 ghz (4 cores)

    but if your just benching for numbers...then have at it. also, no such thing as upping the voltage past what is embedded in the card. only way to grab voltage would be to hard mod the card. and then..you can forget about a warranty.. :).... should it break.
     
  35. oqix

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    My best for now:
    P9641

    [​IMG]

    I don't have good GPU for OC but my CPU is better.
     
  36. Quagmire LXIX

    Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!

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    Nice job oqix!

    Q
     
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    oqix Notebook Consultant

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    thanks Quagmire LXIX

    and now same settings but catalyst 10.11:

    [​IMG]

    Better OCed CPU:
    [​IMG]
    So close to 166 and 2Ghz but more clocks are unstable for now.
    These clocks are stable for gaming too not only for benching.
     
  38. kurtcocaine

    kurtcocaine Notebook Evangelist

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    This is the Highest STABLE overclock that i can get on my cpu, can go much higher on the gpu, have tested upto 880/1175, can prolly still go higher

    I think the cpu OC is limited by the crappy stock Hyundai 1066 ram i have..

    Anyway here's a run with CPU@1850Mhz and gpu@ 865/1150

    Score - P9588
    Max Temps - Cpu:67-69 GPU:77

    [​IMG]
     
  39. kurtcocaine

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    just downloaded and ran 3DMark 11, here are the results

    3DMark Score - P2428
    Graphics Score - 2253
    Physics Score - 4130
    Combined Score - 2346

    This is the max OC i could get on the GPU without it freezing. I was trying to get a decent OC on both GPU and CPU but it proved very difficult as this has a combined test where both GPU and CPU are stressed so any OC on the cpu with the GPU clocks so high was causing it to fail on the combined test. I couldnt even complete a run with turbo mode on with these clocks.
    I guess power demand during the combined test with OC on both outstrips the power supply or maybe i just have a crappy CPU, i could never get it to OC as high as some other members..

    Runnin Catalyst 10.11 btw
     

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  40. cookinwitdiesel

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    Is the physics cpu based or Nvidia PhysX again? Really hope it is CPU based
     
  41. kurtcocaine

    kurtcocaine Notebook Evangelist

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    its cpu based, it uses the Bullet Physics libraries

    and does the GPU physics (in combined test) using the DirectCompute libraries
     
  42. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I like that alot :)

    Need to download my copy....I pre ordered but have not installed yet (for desktop)
     
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    i got p2136 at stock everything
     
  44. cookinwitdiesel

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    I assume that is your laptop and not your desktop then haha

    How does it respond to overclocks?
     
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    yeah. that was the laptop. running on a fully loaded factory os.
    the 580 got p7632

    x2433
    http://3dmark.com/3dm11/27755

    as to over clocks...still accessing that.
     
  46. Ruckus

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    It's not confirmed. But there may be OpenPhysics drivers in Catalyst 10.12 CCC huge update.
     
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    kinda poor,my little huge g73 get a score of P2143

    Compare to DESKTOP(that's what its task), almost the same as
    Core i7-980X OC 4GH+6GB DDR3-1600+HD 5750 -------(P2214)
    & Core i7-980X OC 4GH+6GB DDR3-1600+GTS450 -------(P2122)
    well,though the cpu is bluffing,anyway,the HD5770,whose parameter looks just the same with 5870m,got P2662 .....well ,still similar
    what do you think?
     
  48. cookinwitdiesel

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    Woot, I beat Johns desktop (albeit with 2 gpus to his one haha)
     
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    overclocked cpu to 3.4ghz max and the 5870 to 800/4200. Tried 3dmark 06 and got this!

    Result

    14,717 :)
     
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