Asus G73JW discussion thread

I'll order in xoticpc and there is options of 3 wireless cards.. Intel N 6200/6250/6300.. Is there any huge difference between them?..

 

I have the same SSD and you're right, this is awesome.

 

hi,

anyone know of any pages giving advice on how to install an SSD onto your G73jw? I bought mine at stock from Xoticpc but am thinking of upgrading the HDD.

 

^^ Just remove the bottom panel (2 screws) and you will see the hard drives toward the bottom. Remove the hard drive you want to replace and remount it in the caddy.

 

Will best buy be getting a version of the JW? My GPU just died and best buy is going to "junk out" my 6860FX leaving me with $1350 of best buy credit. They have the i7-740, 5870, 6gb model but I want a Nvidia GPU.

 

I'd want Nvidia too, but out of curiosity, what type of warranty did you have that you could do that? That's pretty cool if they just give you store credit. Would make me want to buy Best Buy and get their warranty, since I do push my system hard and rely on it.

 

I had the 3 year accidental warranty. It isn't cheap but it is worth it when your laptop can't be fixed and they have to give you a replacement. My credit can only go towards a new laptop and if it is cheaper than what I paid for then I loose the rest of the credit. I can't go pick out a cheap laptop and a new TV or anything like that.

 

Sorry, can someone please reassure me about the G73jw? :-/ I've had one sitting here since Friday night, unopened, as I'm just paranoid about it after reading all these repaste, keyboard, and other weird issues. My N80nv has been rock solid, but all these reports are scaring me, making me think I should go HP or Dell :-/ The M15x would be the same price for me, the HP Envy 17 actually cheaper (though I'd prefer the GTX 460 GPU to anything those offer).

Huh...well, still, that sounds like a nice warranty? Do you just deal with them in-store versus having to call some number? That sounds like a really nice way to do it, although the problem being Best Buy doesn't have the greatest selection of mid/high end notebooks (although surprisingly solid really).

 

Yeah I just take it into the store then they have to send it to their repair center. Since my laptop has been to the repair center more than three times they have to replace it under the "no lemon policy".

 

Cool! Thanks for the info-that really sounds like a nice way of doing a warranty.

 

Repasting is probably a must for the G73JH, but otherwise it's a fine laptop.

M15x, maybe need a little paste redo, but usually it has really nice temps stock. With me, I got unlucky and I had to do a repaste because on Furmark I was hitting 103C on the memory within seconds. The core was pretty good though, it was like maxing out at 85ish. Though, it's like 10x easier to repaste the M15x cause it's pretty easy to get to. I've done it like 4 times, but in the beginning because I was a noob and applied too much the first 3 times. :X But now, my temps remain below like 65C for gaming for like 2 hours and under 72C on furmark for like 15 minutes.

With the M15x you give up a 2xHDD bays, but otherwise it's has everything the G73JH has and then some. (No USB 3, which only the G73JW has, though)
Resale on the M15x would also be higher. Personally, I'd just stick with the G73JH instead of going through the trouble of send it back and then buying an M15x and waiting like 3 week for it to come.

 

I received my G73JW last week, and it has been rock solid.

The keyboard is great. No light issues. No skipped/missing characters when typing.

I'm using the stock paste. The GPU is idling at 37C, the CPU idles at around 45C. Unpack it, fire it up, and use it! Try not to worry too much, it really does seem like a solid machine.

 

Yeah, see I'm NOT going to repaste, though this is a jw and not a jh, so I'm not sure if it's a requirement or not-if it is (like, EVER), I have to send it back now.

So you've got a 1.73GHz Core i7 in yours with a Radeon 5850...any throttling with that combo? I'd really rather have a Geforce, but the 460 of course isn't available, and the 260 causes throttling-at least with the higher end CPUs.

But your combo doesn't throttle?

Regarding the dual drive bays-yeah, I was looking forward to throwing an SSD in as the boot drive, and then a mechanical storage drive. But oh well-a single 500GB Seagate Momentus XT looks impressive from Anandtech's reviews. Like the two things that I'm really bothered with in terms of drive speed are initial boot, and program loads right after it's at the Windows desktop-and it looks like the Momentus XT is closer to a high end SSD than a mechanical drive for those. Either way, I'll live without the two drive setup!

Geez, my 320GB drive is getting super cramped though.

 

that makes me want to buy a laptop on bestbuy on my next laptop. even you have a 2 years laptop, bestbuy will replace your laptop? a new laptop? with no extra charge? damn! how much is the 3 year damage warranty though? sorry i didn't use with any warranty yet.

 

The 3 year accidental warranty is $350... Like I said it was not cheap but it is well worth it when your laptop is dead a few years later and it is still worth full price to best buy.

 

Just keep in mind that it would be Best Buy. Their Geek Squad is known to have some competency issues. If they send the laptop to Asus, however, then it doesn't matter.

 

Best buy uses their own repair centers, they do not ship them to the manufactures. Going through the manufacture takes much longer.

 

260M ain't throttling anymore for all that I know of. Just like the G73, the biggest flaw of the M15x is now gone for the most part. The 5850, no throttling unless you've got a 920XM with all cores at 27x and a 5850 at 990/1100 and getting 11k-12k Vantage scores like Inap's doing. But you could always just buy an M17x adapter if your into benching like that.

Personally, I would settle for the G73JW, because the cooling is already a slight worse or on par with the AWs from the cooling upgrade and you already have it! I probably would've opened it already if I were you. xP My last comment about the G73JH mostly needing a repaste, but the G73JW, I've heard it's better and you probably won't. But in isolated incidents, you might have to... Even on the M15x or Sagers. I hope you enjoy your brand spankin' computer no matter which one you decide to choose!

BTW, the M15x is getting an upgrade in a month or two and the G73JW is the refresh version of the G73JH. So you'll probably get an 460 or 470M in the M15x too and usb 3 with one hdd... I'm hoping for a 2x HDD version though. :S

 

Dang, if the M15x is really getting a refresh.... (PLEASE actually TEST the thing this time before shipping it Dell! :-D )

 

All these problems you're hearing about are from a different laptop, the G73jh. There is no cheaper gaming laptop that's better than this one. I did my research for two month before I got it. The HP Envy 17 will overheat pretty bad on you...I researched all options. Only alienware and Sager laptops can be better than the G73. However, the alienware is much more expensive and the Sager is a little more expensive, but doesn't look that good.

 

Factoring in the large discounts almost anybody (in the U.S. at least) could get, I find Alienware to be only a little more expensive than Asus. Clevo/sager is nonnegotiable and thus the most expensive.

 

For the same specs as the G73, I'm configuring the alienware M17x for ~ $1000 more. It looks to me like you'll have to settle for half the amount of RAM, less than half the hard disc space, a weaker processor, no blue-ray.....etc, and then find discounts or negotiate with sales people to get the price down closer to the G73.

I would imagine everyone would buy alienware if, for the same specs, they sell for only about a $100 more than the G73.

 

Thanks-so that rules the Envy 17 out. What about the M15x though? For me it's the same price, so that's not an issue. Obviously the G73jw has a better GPU, but I just want something non-broken/weird, and if the M15x with a 1.73 or 1.83GHz i7 + GTX 260 is non-flakey I'll go for it. (or if it's really being updated in the next month or two...)

 

You can't beat alienware quality in general. Just be aware of the options on the M15x. It's a smallers screen and the default resolution and other stuff are less than the G73, but you can pretty much modify it the way you want. In any case, the 8 GB RAM in the G73 is an overkill for gaming.

 

What, seriously? Why don't you open it up and find out for yourself?

 

Originally Posted by Wolfpup View Post
Sorry, can someone please reassure me about the G73jw? :-/ I've had one sitting here since Friday night, unopened, as I'm just paranoid about it after reading all these repaste, keyboard, and other weird issues

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Every single laptop has "an" issue that I've seen on these forums.

MSI screen/keyboard, HP touchpad/sides cracking, Alienware hinges/fan dying etc...the list goes on. If you visit every single computer manufacturer sub-thread, you'll see that everyone has an issue.

You have to remember, for every complaint, thousands are happy. Of course the thousands (maybe few people) will not come to NBR and praise their laptop, however, those who have had a "lemon" will.

 

Quite obviously because then I'm out the money.

I'd prefer the lower resolution-I'd prefer it on the 17" screen actually, so I'm saving money on that if I go with the M15x.

I haven't heard of any issues with the M15 xaside from the throttling, and I'm still unclear on whether it throttles with a GTX 260 + "slower" 1.73 or 1.86GHz CPU. Haven't heard any at all with the M17x.

 

Random question, but what the heck is that "soft touch" plastic made out of? Does that rub off? :-D

 

This is just stupid, sorry had to say it. Open it and if you like it, keep it. If you don't, return it and get a refund. Return policies have a time limit. It's not, we only take returns on un-opened items. A return policy like that would be stupid, you can even return clothes after trying them on. Just don't throw away the box, pamphlets and anything that comes with the notebook.

Just having it sit there doesn't do anything, especially if you only have a 14 day return policy.

 

(Psst, not all return policies are identical. Even if they were, I don't want to screw over the seller so they can't sell it as new if I don't think I'm keeping it.)

 

My opinion on this situation still stands. Even if a thousand people said G73JW said it has problems and it's terrible, but you open it up, works flawless and you love it, that's all that matters. Even if a thousand NBR members said they love it, it wouldn't matter if you just happened to get a dead pixel and possibly keyboard lag or any other million problems that EVERY laptop from EVERY brand suffers.

Simply put, in my personal opinion on this situation, only YOU can decide if YOU like the notebook. And only by looking at the notebook, ONLY then can you determine if the notebook is up to the standards you expect.

Waiting a week for replies on a forum, won't change any of the above. And then returning a notebook because initially you thought, I have to have it. And then just because a few out of tens of thousands who love their G73 come on NBR and complain and complain and ceaseless complaints about everything, you return it would be stupid. Because again, as above, there is a possibility you may love the G73JW and it will be up to your expectations. Finding another notebook with the specifications of the G73JW, the quiet fans, and the price with the very unique design would be impossible.

Congratz on purchasing the G73JW and now that it is in your possession, I hope you open it, and love it and that the G73JW serves you well. There must be many great reasons why you bought it, and I hope those reasons come to fruition for you!

 

Can't get the new whql driver 260.89 to install at all. I'm getting the could not find compatible hardware error message. I did my usual routine of uninstalling everything nvidia in control panel, then booting into safe mode and running my driver cleaner program and then booting into normal mode and installing. Error message. I then reinstalled 260.63(no problem) and tried to install the 260.89 over these. Error message... so no joy. Anyone else having this problem? And yes I did download the verde notebook drivers.

 

How are you out of money? It just came out, who could you have bought from that wasn't an authorized reseller that had a return policy? Why would you even do so? The competition is so cut throat that the base prices is the same across just about all the sellers.

 

I'd rather talk about the actual computer than argue about return policies...

 

Well, I've been seeing more "random" unresolved problems with the G73JH/Ws than the M15x. The hinge is only on the old M15x and the M11x.

 

Are there any major issues with G73JW ?
looking to get one now or wait for G53

Guessing if G73JW has a Issue the same will be with the G53

Anyone wants to sell the used G73JW pm me

please

 

the only problem I have with it is the trackpad...
it works fine, no problem except I don't know if it is me that's causing the problem or just a design flaw.
the multi touch function gets into the way really easily and it is seriously annoying.

I am constantly zooming in and out when I am just wanting to move the mouse down or up.

another one is also related to the touch pad, the clicks are not very well placed, by this, i mean that it takes time to actually know pressing which area will get the click done because comparing to the huge area of the clickers, the area where it feels the click actually is quite small

 

Thanks alot
I use a mouse all the time, so guess wont have these problems

still waiting for the G53, might get that cos its smaller

 

Hey! How are benchmarks on this system? I just ran 3DMark Vantage and got a few numbers here:

10,223 3DMarks
29,982 CPU Score
8381 GPU Score

A bit low... but oh well! I want to get that GPU over 8500
EDIT 1: Ran PCMark Vantage and got 10,551 PCMarks
EDIT 2: Ran 3DMark06 and got 13,275 3DMarks
-SM 2.0 Score: 5631
-SM 3.0 Score: 6294
-CPU Score: 3278

 

video of the G53 are out from GenTech and BTO tech on youtube, you can have a look!

The issue that the G53 has is this: Even Ken from GenTech says it is difficult to open up the notebook.
(check the BTO video because it shows exactly how it is supposed to be opened)

so if you want to upgrade or do some cleaning, better stick with G73.
Also the temperature seems a bit higher than G73

 

Here is a touchscreen all-in-one version of this laptop by Asus if anyone wants to consider it.

 

Huh. Well, interesting, but I'd rather just get it in notebook form.

 

Very nice 23 inch 3D screen; however, it's not really mobile, yet it has the "mobile" gtx 460m. I don't see much benefit when it comes to gaming. Gamers won't choose this over a regular desktop with desktop graphics card and people who want mobility will pick the G73JW. Not sure which niche it would fill.

 

That's what I think about ALL all in ones though...there must be SOMEONE who thinks they're a good idea :lol:

 

apparently its an nvidia problem from what ive seen, not a problem with the jw. they're "working on it" from what ive seen on the nvidia forums regarding this problem.

do you know where i can get the 260.63 drivers anymore? the nvidia site only directs me to the .89 drivers which obviously are useless.

oh also, my g73jw is saying "plugged in but not charging - 95%"

whats the deal with that? and how long do i have to stick that asus warranty card in the mail, ive had it almost a week now.

 

I don't know what's up with the battery indicator. At first I saw it was stuck at 95%, not charging. At some point later, it was 100%. Now I see it's 96%, not charging. Maybe the battery charges extremely slow after 95%? or the indicator doesn't report correctly?

Here are the beta drivers: NVIDIA DRIVERS 260.63 BETA

I must have posted them 10 times already lol.

 

Has anyone done this Mod themselves, if you have, how hard was it to do, and did you have any issues?

 

Plugged in, not charging Windows 7 solution : Jeffrey Palermo (.com)

try this, im going to try it as well when im home later tonight.

 

Laptops loose charge over time or by quick unplug/plug runs, so to avoid overcharging and reducing your battery life even more, it waits until you drop at less than 95% to begin charging again.

So, when you charge, it will go to 100%, but it won't recharge unless it is on 94% or less. The % may vary a bit.

 

ryzeki, ah ok, cause i ran to class and turned it on and that probably dropped the battery to 95% before i plugged it back in