Asus G73JW discussion thread

yup, happens to me all the time.

 

ASUS card needs to be mailed within 60 days of purchase - says so on the card!

 

The battery will charge to 100%. When it reaches 100%, it will stop charging until it reaches 95%. Then, it will charge back up to 100%. It will continue this process repeatedly. It helps to save the battery from being overcharged.

 

Does the exact same thing on my n80nv. I never use it on battery (except once as a UPS, which was darned handy!) Every once in a while I'll catch it with the battery charging light on.

 

I registered my laptop online. is that enough?

 

its easy just be careful removing the keyboard. i broke my keyboard light while removing the keyboard. new keyboard cost $23 btw.

 

Don't know; just got the G73 myself!

 

Quoting just to make sure some ppl can read this.
It is a good setting if u are having the battery plugged in all the time.

 

How much VAT did you pay? I'm actually thinking of buying it but not sure about extra costs of importing it.

Cheers

 

hello all,

i'm copy pasting my post from the g73jw lounge thread since no one there seems to answer my question.

 

yup, thats perfectly normal and fine

 

sweet, thanks

 

Those are great temps, absolutely nothing to worry about

 

Argh, I'm STILL paranoid about this whole paste thing, that I'm going to have it break down in x number of months :-O

 

what is your room temp? mine is idle at 35-40 and max gpu while playing is around 64-68. running fumark for 10 minutes my max temp is 80. my room temp is 68. ur's is good.

 

Room temp is usually around 25-30C
are those numbers on stock paste? that's pretty amazing.

 

stock paste.

 

I received my jw-a1 today and my cpu idles high forties with stock paste. I ran Furmark and the highest temp I got was the same as you posted, 80 C. I lifted the front a bit and the temp dropped down to 76 C and stayed there.

 

My understanding is that there are two different warranty registrations. There is the general worldwide warranty and I registered for that online and as I recall that was the end of it.

However, for the accidental damage warranty, you need to register for that separately online or via mail within something like 60 days. When I registered online, they still requested that I mail in some papers (receipt).

 

About to pull the trigger on this laptop since I want to be able to easily upgrade the system myself and not deal with the complicated G53 disassembly. I hear that there is some keyboard lag on this system, since I will be doing homework on it for college, has anybody noticed this?

 

I hear that there is some lag but it's pretty minor. Apparantly removing the synaptic touchpad driver that is installed and just using the default windows drivers gets rid of the keyboard lag. Will check it out next week when my unit arrives

 

I don't use touchpads so I disabled it in the BIOS and did not install the driver. I have not had any keyboard lag which is really nice because my old Sager had lag and it was a pain sometimes.

 

Thanks chumpp, thats weired how the touchpad is causing the keyboard to have problems, hopefully it isn't that much of an issue.

 

question about the battery settings.

so during gaming, when im plugged in, my fps is around 30, when i plug out immediately the fps drops to 10-15. Even when my battery setting is at high performance and my GPU overclocked (GPU-z shows correct OC numbers).

does the notebook forcefully downclock the GPU and CPU when on battery? or is the battery is just not powerful enough?

 

Check your CPU settings in advanced power options. By default, it's allowed to throttle from 5% to 100% under battery. Try changing this to 100% min/100% max.

 

Quick question,

I'm confused about RAM capacity of the G73JW, according to the specs it supports up to 16GB but according to Intel website Intel® Core? i7-940XM Processor Extreme Edition (8M Cache, 2.13 GHz) with SPEC Code(s) SLBSC says Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type) 8GB why is that? Is Intel page out of date or I'm not reading the specs in the right way?

Thanks

 

still not improving the fps during battery, but i can confirm it is indeed bottlenecked at the CPU, when i purposely throttle the CPU at high performance (plugged in) i do experience frame drop.

any other suggestions?

 

I believe the 8GB figure you see is the max size memory per slot. My JW has 4 x 4 GB so I have 16GB.

 

I haven't messed around w/the wife's computer yet, but I know there's nothing in power options for GPU, which I thought was a little strange. Have you gone through the NVidia control panel? Might be something in there about power savings...

 

That is a "soft" spec based on most laptops only having two memory slots, and the largest memory pieces currently available are 4GB. So, they figured 2x4GB=8GB.

However with 3 and 4 memory slots currently available you can go to 16GB. You will see that it is supported in both the BIOS and Control Panel>System, and you will see that it can be used by looking in Task Manager>Performance tab>Resource Monitor>Memory tab.

 

Many thanks for your response. I'm planning to upgrade it to 16GB but I've seen some issues in the forum regarding brands. Is there any special brand should I use to ensure my laptop will read 16 GB?

Thanks

 

ASUS uses Kingston, AData, Hynix and maybe a couple more over time. I am not aware of any particular brand that won't work, but there may be one or two out there...who knows?

 

Anyone here with JW model can run this Benchmark for me?

with Low and High def please ?
FINAL FANTASY XIV Official Benchmark

I saw this video here (with JH model)
YouTube - FFXIV Benchmark (5870m, i7 720qm)

I wanna see if NVIDIA performs better on this game or not, since JW is cooler than JH.

 

1080P
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/2378/24010633.png

 

Thanks for this


460m 1080p = 1981 points
5870m 1080p = 2021 points

not much different.

btw.. was your PhysX on or off?

 

I don't see what the differnece is between the warrantys. The XA1 from amazon only has a 1-year warranty, but the A1 and the XT1 both have 2-year. Am I missing something?

 

Does anyone know if this memory will work on my G73JW ? I´m planning to buy two of this.

OCZ 8GB Memory Module Kit (2x2048MB) PC3-10600 1333MHz DDR3 Unbuffered CL 9-9-9-20 Value SODIMM

OCZ DDR3 PC3-10600 DDR3 Value SODIMM 8GB Edition OCZ Technology

Latency is quite big for what I´m used to with desktop memory is it good?

Thanks

 

The 460m is about 1700 points for me, but this is without OCing. I hear the 460m is underclocked. I did a small OC with msi burner and was able to get it closer to 2000 pts. My physx is on and I'm using the 260.63 beta drivers.

 

ok this is slightly disturbing.

my notebook shutdowns itself sometimes during gaming, this has happened 3 times, it rarely happens and I can't seem to determine the problem. My temps are usually 79-80C at load, which is normal judging by the responses at this forum.

So any idea what might cause this? It happens rarely but it's still a worrying issue.

I did not install a new copy of Windows 7, removed most bloatware as noted in the Asus guide post, updated drivers to 260.63 (using driver sweeper..etc), the GPU is OCed to 800, 1600, 1400. Don't see any latency spikes or artifacts under DPC.

another issue is the game performance dropping during unplugged/battery mode which i still haven't solve. I've changed the minimum CPU utilize at 100% during battery, change the Nvidia control battery settings from "Adaptive" to "Prefer performance".

any suggestions are welcome thanks

 

The battery part is normal I think-that's just what you're going to see from notebooks. You really need to play games plugged in.

The shutting itself down part though...that's bad obviously!

Those temperatures don't sound bad though. My whimpy 32-core part gets hotter than that under load :-D

 

Some ppl say you'll gain some more performance if you turn the PhysX off.

Since FFXIV doesn't use PhysX,
Can you try running it again for me with PhysX off?

 

This probably a question to everyone...what about the temperature of the cpu? would that cause shutdown if it's too high?

In any case, turn off turbo mode and go to your power4gear utility and set the "minimum processor state" to 0%. That should help with the temperature and will have no effect on performance from what I read from others and seen in gaming benchmarks I tried. Turbo mode even causes worse performance in some games.

 

i have that issue. fresh windows 7 install. but i havent encounter it anymore i'm not sure but since i disabled my sidebar, i didn't encounter it anymore., and also twin turbo is disabled and min cpu is set to 0.

 

sorry, forgot to mention my CPU temps, all 4 cores are always sitting at 65-68C during load, i've never seen them go over 70C. That should be normal.

Twin Turbo was off all the time.

I will try to set the Minimum CPU during high performance to 0 and see if that helps.

So can I safely say that the only factor that would cause a random shutdown is temperature on CPU and GPU? Is this done by the BIOS?

 

First of all hey

I sold my Desktop that had a 5870 in it and now thinking on getting the JW. Have read most of the thread. But still can not decide on the JW or JH model.

Thinking of getting the JW-A1 from amazon speced at :
CPU: Intel Core i7-740QM quad-core processor (1.73 GHz with Turbo Boost up to 2.93 GHz)
Chipset: Intel HM55
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M 1.5GB GDDR5 VRAM
Memory: 8GB DDR3 1333 MHz RAM, 4 x SODIMM (expandable to 8GB)
LAN: 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet
WLAN: 802.11 b/g/n (@ 2.4GHz), Bluetooth v2.1
Storage: 1 terabyte storage (2 x 500GB 7200RPM hard drives)
Optical Drive: Blu-ray combo drive
Speakers: Altec Lansing speakers with EAX 4.0 sound
Microphone Digital Array Microphones
Card Reader: 8-in-1 card reader (MMC/SD/Mini-SD/XD/Memory stick/MS Pro/MS-Duo/MS-Pro Duo)
Input/ Output: 1 x Mic-in, 1 x Headphone-out, 1 x VGA port/Mini D-Sub 15-pin for external monitor, 3 x USB 2.0 ports, 1 x USB 3.0 port, 1 x Gigabit LAN, 1 x HDMI, 1 x Kensington Lock
Battery Pack: 8 cell


How much have the JW driver changed? as i understand they still only beta. I love gaming and do not want to downgrade from the Ati HD 5870 .The CPU is much better then the one i had but seeing some of the GPU scores on vantage made me confused again.

anyone know if the CPU or GPU can be swaped in the future for a better one or is it locked on the motherboard?

 

Mobile parts aren't the same thing as desktop parts. The mobile part using the 5870 is literally half the hardware of the desktop part, and is probably clocked slower too.

Between these two, no question I'd personally go for the jw, both because they've revised the cooling, and I'd rather have that GPU.

 

So at least two people have seen random shutdowns?

 

i've set my min CPU to 5% during high performance and updated to the 260.89 drivers, been playin for 3 hours, so far so good. Temps aren't all that different.

I do take out my batteries though when im plugged in. anyway dont think it matters since the random shutdowns happened when battery was already intacked or removed.

 

1) Desktop class names do not apply directly to Mobile GPUs. The HD5870m is basically a downclocked HD5770, and the GTX460m is akin to a GTS450 with a bit different specs. They perform around the same from each other, but they are definitely NOT high end desktop class at all.

2) Vantage scores for CPU are weird sometimes because Nvidia Physx alter the CPU calculations tests, thus ends up with over 20k scores easily, while it should have around 12k for mobile Core i7 740. The important thing would be to look at the GPU score which remains the same regardless of physx, and can be much more easily compared between brands, though still not indicative of superiority.

3) CPU can be swapped but only up to 940xm, as the new sandy bridge CPUs are coming out soon and they require a different chipset. GPUs can only be upgraded in certain machines, and in this particular case, Asus makes their own cards so you would only be able to if they made a fitting cards, which I am 98% sure they won't.

If you are new to the mobile gaming, just lower your expectations. Mobile High end GPUs are around less than half of desktop high end power. CPUs are considerably slower too, but still very capable. At most, laptops make nice midrange gaming sets. Capable of playing everything, but not always on highest settings or maxing AA/AF, high res etc.

Need similar performance to your previous desktop setup? Prepare to spend a lot of money, and going dual GPU with SLI/CrossFire. Though at this point you are better off waiting for Sandy Bridge and the Mobility Radeon 6000 series revision for extra performance.

 

Has anybody seen this news out of ROG:
Welcome to Republic Of Gamers! - News

I've been looking at getting the G73JW, and I was about to order one until I saw this. To me this says that a G73JW-3DE, should be out soon. I have a hard time interpreting Asus's cryptic new releases. A quick google search of "ROG G73 3D", doesn't yield any interesting results, other then some stuff about a release in Russia.

Can anyone else comment on this news, or does anyone know when this machine might be on sale in the USA?

Thanks.