In the G73JH it isnt the GPU controlling the fans. You can look at the vBios and will see its not there, so its probably motherboard controlled, unlike the Clevos, where you can edit the fan settings in the vBios. And i dont just get 30% and 100%, but my fans rather spin up slowly as temperature increases, but after it reaches 84C on the core, the fans are at full blast.
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The MemIO temp you read, the +90C, it's a sensor situated on the GPU anyway, so there's no need to change those pads on the memory. (Correct me if I'm wrong). -
PulsatingQuasar Notebook Consultant
That's correct.
All three censors are located in the 5870m. I did change the pads though because for me that worked best but it seems the gap between memory and heatsink doesn't seem to be the same for everyone. I didn't have a lot of room and the part sticking out over the resistor even less so I had to bend that up a bit after reseating the heatsink.
If I compare temps with someone with an Alienware m15x then I get the same temperatures now. With a heavy game like Bad Company 2 for a few hours you shouldn't notice more than 5 to 6 degrees between TSS0 and TSS1. That is normal for 700 MHz core and 1000 MHz memory. 15 degrees difference just means a bad pasting job.
I did notice that when his system is idle the core runs at 200 MHz and memory at 300 MHz. At those clocks TSS1 is actually cooler than TSS0. -
Just did a 2hour furmark run on 1920x1080 0xMSAA windowed, extreme burn and postfx enabled. Running cat 10.7 with stock clocks 700/1000 with ziddy's v3 vbios. No GSOD.
Only when I pressed printscreen and closed furmark it somehow didn't save the printscreen. I couldn't paste it in photoshop. So that's kind of a waste.
But the max temp I got was 98°C. Whenever I tilted the front of the laptop up a bit, the temp dropped to 93°C. The laptop is really close to the desk because of the small rubber feet.
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Finally got up the courage to Paste the GPU with Arctic silver.
Now I can run Furmark at 700/1000 and not crash the computer runs to about 99C over ten minutes.
With small back off and a usb fan running straight at the GPU heatsink can run 800/1100 no problems. -
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The feet on the G73JH are ridiculously low. The D900F has at least 2cm high feet on the back which are there for a reason.
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here are my temps for playing 2 hours of MW at 1920*1080 @ max settings. never experienced overheating on this laptop ever since. the TSS1 go high though as much as 105.
is the TSS0 the most important reading?
ambient is 30C
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those are high mine are similar
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maybe someone can make a fan program for us???
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darn.and i thought those were normal.
ATM, i tried raising the back with my triangular ruler ( i think its called a scale, something used by engineers & architects). will it damage the rubber feet in any way? -
FruitSaladExtreme Notebook Consultant
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average but hot, talking to some tech people said this card can handle it even if we dont like the temps.
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Just take stuff from Asus employees with a grain of salt. Remember, if they do a recall, that will seriously put a dent in the company's fiscal earnings, and their stock value is something Asus values alot.
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man, i wish theyd do a recall and change our G73JH for a G73JW
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And there is nothing wrong with th G73, just use Catalyst 9.12 lol
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No problem using a triangular scale to elevate your laptop. Several people have had good results using a similar solution with a 1/2 inch metal rod.
I always recommend a laptop cooler with the high performance 5870 GPU on the G73JH ... cheap insurance when you need it ... and no more RMAs !
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Idle temps around 56c
After 2 hours of HalfLife 2 it's 79.5c
Ambient is about 28c
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I was stressing cause I thought that was so high.
Dude you should see my room right now, it's 2:45 in the morning and I'm sweating like a pig! -
haha mine idles at 80 man... gaming is 90-100 easy then GSOD 22 degrees
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yah my options are to pay a tech even more money, do it myself, or rma and hope ... while i wait weeks and weeks
no good choices there
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If you wait to long, the paste will harden, and get solid, so that it will be harder to flatten it out.. Watch some video's on youtube about how to apply thermal paste if you wanne do it yourself.
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Ok so I woke up this morning and checked the weather/email etc. on my G73, then left for work while leaving my computer on. I also left on Gpu Clock tool. When I came home the computer put itself to sleep and when I turned in on I see a max GPU temp of 511.00 celsius. Surely that is simply a bug I would hope.
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When I my laptop wakes from hibernation the GPU thermisters are goofy and it will report high spikes and dips (up to 127C) in temperature. I think it has a hard cap of 127C. 511C would have almost assuredly caused your GPU to fail. It's probably a software related bug.
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ok thx. what tools do i need to disconnect the keyboard and not ruin those 2 cables behind it...
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The two-sided tape is the hard part. Don't bend the keyboard - get your fingers under there ASAP to apply peel force near the tape and away from the ribbons. -
ok ordering my diamond thermal paste...
no computer expert but i will follow instuctions.
--> ok also ned tip for removing old paste... chastityt said coffe filter. how do i use it? just rub it off with filter>.. use alcohol??
thx
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After much debate I decided to repaste my system. ABSOLUTELY no regrets here. WELL worth the risk to repaste. I used IC Diamond 7, was debating between that and OCZ freeze but decided to go IC Diamond.
I have screenshots but I don't know how to resize them so I will just provide it in text form.
Pre-paste:
Idle: around 66-67C
Load (Unigine / Furmark): 96C / 102C (burn mode stability test after 6 minutes)
Post Paste:
Idle: 57C!!!!!!
Load furmark: 91C
everything stock clocks / vbios / Catalyst 10.1 from asus
ANd these are temps I got IMMEDIATELY after turning my system back on after pasting.
Scariest part is pulling off the keyboard. I also damaged one of the FPC latches but everything still seems to be working! I just followed the BTOTech video. Easy as pie.
For those of you on the fence, it's really just a matter of having the cojones (or the female version) to pull your system apart. Just do it, it's worth 1.5 hours effort. -
BTW, congrats on the repasting and your keyboard extraction! (I am so jealous)
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I'm doing mine this weekend. Decided after seeing Chastity's results and seeing Furmark runs poking into the 108C area. BFBC@ typically runs at 94C max for me. If I can knock 10C off those I'll be extremely happy -
Not to be paranoid, but...
I've been running Furmark after getting my G73 back from my 2nd RMA- after about 10 minutes I reach about 96 degrees, and subsequently stop. I'm running 10.6 Catalyst at 800/1100 clock speeds.
I also got a GSOD in Starcraft 2 earlier today after 1.5 hours, and graphical artifacts in Global Agenda after 3 hours the day before that. Should I be concerned, or should I just stick with this and not bother repasting or anything? -
Maybe try lowering your gpu core speed, 800 might be the culprit causing instability.
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Well crap. I just ran Furmark on stock clocks (700/1000) and got a GSOD within 10 minutes. I was lying on my bed, so I didn't see the actual temperature- but it did GSOD.
I'm really sad now- I RMAed twice over 5 weeks and didn't even have my problem fixed. I don't know what to do now- I'm considering just selling this thing and being done with it.
EDIT: Okay, after a 705/1100 test, I capped out at 93-94C. It seems I have one of those cards that has to have the memory overclocked to 1100, or it will crash. Going by those numbers, I can assume that 800/1100 would probably cap at around 96-98C... but that's a really rough estimate. Still doesn't explain why Starcraft 2 crashed...
One thing I did forget to mention- I'm running Furmark at 8x with Extreme Burning and Post FX on. Does that make a difference? -
Should I be worried
This is a test after 5 minutes of Furmark with Xtreme burn mode.
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--> i had tons of trouble with starcraft 2. i also have a gsoding one that needs the overclock.
Go to control panel and double click catalyst... go through and choose to uninstall everything
Boot in safe mode, use driver sweeper to clean all ATI stuff
Flash to Bios 209
Get AMD GPU Clock Tool
Delete Power4Gear
Reboot blah blah blah
Install Catalyst 10.7a Hotfix
Overclock to what you need (for me it is 755/1100)
If you are playing SC2 and screen flickers/goes black a bit/etc take it as a warning.. clock is not right. Keep trying until you get it right.
I test new clocks with 3dmark etc.
Also, 770/1100 works great but 775/1100 = GSOD heaven ???
it has not shut off on me even one time since I have done this... its not a solution that I like but i have to live with it. Also, my temps in game go 85-105 with average of 92. I am going to repaste in a few weeks -
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The thing is, when I'm playing something like TF2 or L4D2 the temps don't go that high.
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Hardware nuts need not apply but frankly I wish I hadn't bothered going in there because going to Arctic Silver 5 only saved me perhaps 5C. It still breaks 100C in Furmark.
I've dealt with ASUS RMA service and it is very easy to do and it is free. Take advantage of them before possibly destroying a notebook. People with GPU corruption problems should just do this right now. -
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Mind you, I have dismantled/reassembled this unit several times now, and can do it rather easily, especially since I removed all traces of 2-way tape! -
Don't nick the lvds cable either, it's the grey cable that attaches to the lcd. If you nick that you will most definitely sever one of the tiny little wires that's bundled up in there. There's literally a hundred different wires all bundled together in that cable. Also make sure you don't miss taking off all the ribbons and cables or you may end up snapping one off if you're not careful.
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Updated to bios 211. Asus encreased max GPU core temps for fan full speed. It was somwhere 84.5-85C. Now it's 81-82C. So, a little improvement for those, who sufferes from overheating. But, IMO changing TIM will be much better.
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I got my notebook back several days ago for GPU overheating issue and it is much better than before but not as great as I was hoping.
After playing some Starcraft 2 for quite a while the max temps according to AMD clock tool were;
TSS0 - 83
TSS1 - 100
TSS2 - 89
It's been about 15 min since I stopped playing and idle temps are'
TSS0 - 60
TSS1 - 67
TSS2 - 62
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my temps go to 105 on sc2... but 100 is still high according to a lot of people on this forum
i would say they did not do a good job at all. Chastity is getting much better temperatures after repaste
I hope some other people can fill in a bit more because i dont know that much . I am planning on repasting mine with diamond ic 7
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PulsatingQuasar Notebook Consultant
They don't use paste at Asus. They use some pad stuff which is way to thick. The only thing they did was to redo that same process.
My guess is that within 2 months you are in the same boat again because it looks like that is what it takes for the cooling paste they use to degenerate.
Many people and also here in The Netherlands have stated there laptop began at 95C and 2 months later get 110C.
The only thing you can do is to do it yourself after which Asus happily slaps you a Warranty voided notice. They should send you a thank you letter instead for saving their bacon.
Please everyone, spam the official Asus facebook. Many of us already did this but we need to put some more pressure on Asus. -
Asus G73jh GPU temp?
Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by robjbw, Apr 9, 2010.