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    Asus G73jh GPU temp?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by robjbw, Apr 9, 2010.

  1. PulsatingQuasar

    PulsatingQuasar Notebook Consultant

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    They don't use paste from a tube for the GPU. What they use is some sort of a pad paste they stick on the heatsink and then apply the heatsink. It's not the same as a RAM pad but it's a pad nevertheless.

    This was notified on the German Asus G73JH by the Asus tech. They don't want to use paste from a tube because it costs them more time.
     
  2. PulsatingQuasar

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    Finally did an extreme burning session on 1920x1080 for about 24 minutes. Room temperature was 24C.

    I repasted with Arctic MX2, changed the RAM pads and modified the heatsink a bit.

    Ati driver version 10.6.

    [​IMG]
     
  3. fritzer

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    what have you done to your g73?? paste? vbios? or are you lucky one
     
  4. PulsatingQuasar

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    Forgot to add I repasted with Arctic MX2 and did some other stuff.
     
  5. Chastity

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    You forgot to show what drivers you are using ;)

    I'm playing around with Batman: AA. While Furmark doesn't need an OC, this game does, which I find amusing. I guess Batman AA is more of a stress test. :D

    Anyhoo, I like the 60fps I'm getting with VSync + D3DOverride. And for those interested, some max temps (45 min of play):

    TSS0: 73.5C
    TSS1: 75.5C
    TSS2: 73.5C
     
  6. PulsatingQuasar

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    Damn. Added. 10.6 by the way.

    Metro 2033 is a huge stress test also. Comes within 4 degrees of what Furmark does.
     
  7. Makou107

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    Could find that post and I just went through the whole thread. Mind linking it please?

    Oh and did anyone find the right pads for the RAM yet?
     
  8. Chastity

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    Oh it's certainly paste. However, maybe they use paste that's premeasured and sealed between 2 pieces of plastic, which they peel off and slap on.

    All I can add, is that if you order one of these, it would be beneficial to have the pastes redone by a competent dealer.
     
  9. rorage

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    Huh?
    I played BAtman AA at 300/1000, with 1080p , and I think 2x AA, and I had decent FPS, why OC?
     
  10. Chastity

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    for stability... it was glitchy/GSOD on stock
     
  11. schockie

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    Here's another furmark I did just know (Ambient was 24C), so I guess these are the temps you SHOULD get on your Asus g73 model if your stress testing it...(yet another proof that the pasting/applying pads was done by monkeys)

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Jody

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    Repasted tonight with IC Diamond 7. I went from not being able to run Furmark due to hitting 110C shutdowns to running for 45 minutes in a warm room with a max temp of 89C and hovering around 87C most of the time. No GSOD running ATI 10.7. I didn't upgrade to 10.7a because I wanted to prove that repaste and repaste alone would fix my ability to run furmark. I've never touched the vBIOS so it's stock and I've never had a GSOD even when it shutdown.

    If there was a 100% fix for the missing keystroke thing, I would have a perfect laptop.
     
  13. alladintherogue

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    O_O I thought the 209 Bios took care of that ?
     
  14. Kaelang

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    ASUSTeK Computer Inc.-Forum- Keyboard Lag - FIXED!!
     
  15. fritzer

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    so Jody... you lapop had no gsod even before repaste? you are a lucky one... just heat issue right??
     
  16. Jody

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    That's right. I never had a GSOD, but my heat went out of control on furmark after a few minutes.

    The missed keystroke problem is completely gone if you disable the touch pad in BIOS. However, my nifty wireless mouse broke so it's out for warranty replacement. I'm using the stupid touch pad for a week or so until my new mouse arrives and the missed keystrokes are driving me straight up the wall.
     
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    The fix I posted appears to be a 100% fix without disabling anything.
     
  18. alladintherogue

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    Apologies for re-asking but no one answered...thought the 209 Bios update took care of this problem ?
     
  19. schockie

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    Nop it does not fix the problem. I'm running the 209 bios and still having problems with missing keystrokes...
     
  20. Makou107

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    What sucks is I was in the same boat as Jody. No GSOD or any other problem but overheating and shutting down.

    Around that time people in the thread were mostly saying just RMA instead of risking anything repasting. So I RMA'd. That was about month ago.

    Got it back now and temps are better than before but I can tell they will eventually degrade considering the temps most of you guys are getting after repasting. Keyboard was replaced (had a broken key on original) with a black one that doesn't match and no working backlighting. And for the first time yesterday I had what I think is a GSOD (grey lines).

    Knew I should have just repasted. Would have not been without a lappy for that long and would get better results. Oh yea and they put some nice scratches on the bottom of notebook and came back with a missing rubber foot at the top.
     
  21. fritzer

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    haha man oh man...

    i want to repase but no one really knows. If you repaste the GPU is warranty voided??? i know the sticker is on the cpu, but wont they realize you messed around and cancel your warrantY?
     
  22. schockie

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    Someone does know. No. They will realize and finally: No.
     
  23. Jody

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    If the problem is a physical electrical connection on the keyboard, disabling the touch pad in bios wouldn't fix it. I tell you what, I'll read the post again carefully. I'll pop the keyboard off and give it a whirl, but I doubt that it will make any difference. I'll report back.
     
  24. fritzer

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    thanks :)
    i read a post where a guy said it thy will give you a nice warranty voided receipt... see if i can find it. but i hope your right
     
  25. Jody

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    I cleaned the ribbon cable. It does in fact have a very thin layer of black plastic covering the copper pins. I'm sure that is not right. It shouldn't be that way. The clamping mechanism does appear to bite through it because all of the pins had a shiny line where they were clamped in.

    I am still missing keystrokes. :( I miss double letters like in the word "miss". I have missed the letter "i" a few times making this post. I also missed the space bar once.

    Thank you for the advice though and I wanted to follow up that I actually followed the advice. :) If I disable the touch pad in BIOS, I never ever miss a keystroke. It is only when the touch pad is enabled whether I disable it in software or not.
     
  26. schockie

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    And I confirm this; This IS a problem with the G73 models, cause I'm having the same one.. Now we can only hope Asus sees our flare for keyboardfixingaid, so we don't have to disable the touchpad to use the keyboard properly.. PSSSSSSHHHHHH boem! (my flare).
     
  27. The Beast

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    I am in to verify the same keyboard issue... Missing characters... Tried every Synaptics driver I could get my hands on to no avail...

    G73Jh-A3 purchased in June.
     
  28. slamming

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    My GPU temps have gone from 60 at idle to 65+. I have gone from catalyst 10.6 to 10.7 but i suspect they arent responsible for that. Furmark shut my system off at 110c after a couple min.

    Is there a detailed step by step guide to accessing the GPU and applying the thermal compound?
     
  29. schockie

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    Yet again, heres the link on youtube: YouTube - ‪Asus G73Jh Disassembly Take Apart G73 Replace Video Card G73 service manual‬‎

    Next time, read the intire post before you post your questions. Chanses are big the question has already been asked...

    And for the pasting, just search it on youtube: how to apply thermal paste.
     
  30. Amitosh

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    After 1 hour and 45 minutes of Team Fortress 2

    TSSO: 74.5c
    TSS1: 87c
    TSS2: 81.5c

    Is this normal?
     
  31. schockie

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    These are some good temps, not the best, just normal.
    But if you want to compare your temps to ours, i suggest you do the same test we did, run furmark in highest res, 8x AA, burn mode, post fx and stability test (like here; http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/474721-asus-g73jh-gpu-temp-52.html)
    Cause some games drain the max outof your GPU, while other games (like Age of empires 2 :p) only play at almost the idle temps.
    Only than you should be able to use the force. I mean to conclude if ur GPU pasting is any good.
     
  32. Amitosh

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    I ran Furmark a while back for like 5 minutes and I Got 85 on TSS0 and 100 on TSS1, can't remember TSS2.
     
  33. schockie

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    100C is not bad, but its not good eighter. My temps you see in the previous link are those I get when I applied new thermal paste. I used to get 98C while gaming Just Cause 2, after the pasting I only get 82C max...
    For your information though, 100C is not harmfull for your laptop, according to Asus. You got some options; you can RMA it, but chanses are you get the same crappy pasting, you can go to an Asus store, and let the pasting be redone with some good paste, or you can do it yourself (like some of us on this forum did). HOWEVER, opening the laptop is a delicate procedure, so think twice before doing this!
     
  34. Amitosh

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    Ahh, I would never ever think about opening up my laptop.

    I ONLY play source games, they're not that demanding, do you think this laptop will last me another 2-3 years if I only do that?
     
  35. fritzer

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    i don't. in 3 months my laptop has gone to a 81 degree right now idle temp.
    forget about even loading a game screen!

    There are countless posts of people who got their RMA back... the process just starts again. They use bad paste "pads" or paste or do a bad job... but each time you loose our comp for weeks on end.

    if your GPU temp is high on this computer it ismy opinion it is a matter of time before you need to RMA then a matter of time again before you need to RMA again

    I thought about repasting but never worked on a laptop before and don't want to void my warranty
     
  36. Amitosh

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    Can someone confirm Fritzers statement?

    I plan on keeping this laptop for 2-3 years!
     
  37. PulsatingQuasar

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    A lot of people have already confirmed this in multiple threads. The paste job from Asus degrades fast. I repasted mine myself. I can do a much better job anyway.

    According to the Asus rep on this site he has something to say about the paste job soon. I wonder what that is.
     
  38. Amitosh

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    Aww, Damn it.

    I hope I have good luck with this computer.
     
  39. fritzer

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    I've had this laptop for a month and a half and have not experienced any GSOD or and problems at all, I'm using stock driver though.
     
  41. fritzer

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    if you want to check just update to catalyst 10.7 it it will happen randomly sometime, or you can bring it on using furmark or 3dmark06 trial

    to check temps you can get AMD GPU clock tool for hd5870m and check them or hdwinfo32
     
  42. Amitosh

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    What's the difference between the newer drivers and the old ones?

    And I use AMD GPU Clock Tool to check temps.
     
  43. stevenjii

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    I get 70C when playing WoW for 30 minutes and then I stay at that temperature after playing for awhile... is that a normal temp? I usually turn on this fan and put it near my computer as well.
     
  44. schockie

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    Those arent normal temps... They are way to good to be :D. Some of us get temp after repasting the machine, so praise urself lucky, you won the Asus-lottery :).
     
  45. Sabre-shin

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    Just ran some tests on my machine:
    Idle: 57C
    Furmark(10-minutes)-Caps at 90C after 4 minutes and refuses to climb higher.
    Still doing runs to see if it climbs higher than that but so far it will not break 90C
    Edit: Just ran for 20 minutes...its fighting to stay above 89C...it'll fluctuate between 89-90C...not running anything longer...its doesn't appear that it will make a difference.
     
  46. dyikini

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    Well I've been having the overheating problems for about 2 weeks now. G73JH-A2 w/ BIOS 209.

    It was fine at first (bought in March) but the heating problems have crept in. Idle's at 68C and while playing BFBC2 it hits about 89 - 95 regularly and once in a while after extensive play it hits the 110C mark and shuts down.

    I called my local support today (Sydney) and they can have me drop it in for repair. I just wondered if I could ask for a few ppls experience fixing this problem?

    I've read a fair few pages and alot of ppl just RMA it or use thermal paste. I've read reports of ppl having their G73 swapped out for a new one and getting another one with GPU probs or being one of the unlucky ones with a any one or more of the number of other problems reported with this laptop.

    I've also read reports of people reapplying thermal paste to no avail, others saying it's worked a treat.

    So I guess what I'm asking is for some comments on other peoples experiences:

    1) If i send this in for repair under warranty do you think they will replace the GPU and reapply some decent thermal paste? Or will it not be that concise?

    2) If I RMA it, am I likely to get another dodgy G73 or are the newer releases coming out improved over the first few shipments?

    I've been out of the loop with ASUS and service/ laptop repair lately and just wondering if you guys can provide any advice.

    Thanks in advance!
     
  47. fritzer

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    if its just heat issue, all they will do is put paste on
     
  48. pato

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    I've also got a new one, already with Bios 209 supplied. My idle temp is also around 58°C, but dunno about load.
    I once had a GSOD, but that was special anyway. The screen already once flickered while BIOS was booting and then once or twice while logging into Windows. So I think there was something wrong with that "boot".
    I didn't have a GSOD since and played around 20-30hrs or Starcraft 2 (second last mission now :) ) and some hours of Teamfortress 2.
    I updated my Catalyst to 10.7 (without uninstalling crap, just installed it over) and also the Realtek drivers to the latest release. Since then I had no more hickups or anything.
     
  49. slamming

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    How much did you get quoted for a repaste? The place i bought it from wants $120.
     
  50. dean_woa

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    $120....

    where did you get that quotation?
     
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