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    Asus G73jh GPU temp?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by robjbw, Apr 9, 2010.

  1. kreinhard

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    Chastity-

    Thanks. Actually, I did download your vBIOS package from the other thread last night. I did flash it, using the OD version, and was able to play CiV for about an hour with no shutdown or GSOD funny business. HWINFO32 was running the whole time and recorded a high of 105 and an average of (IIRC), 92. So, the 211 BIOS and your vBIOS have done something to help. I'm going to reinstall the latest CCC drivers tonight (10.8, I think it was) and see what happens.

    If the repaste process (well, the disassembly, really) isn't anything to worry about, I'll probably order some MASSCOOL or ICD7 and have at it.

    Thanks again!
     
  2. etismyname

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    and I was told that ICD7 will only lower the temperature around 5 degree max...lol
    are you sure of this result? maybe you changed the condition a lot or something?
     
  3. JoeWhee

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    Or a repaste. I would recommend upgrading to BIOS 211 and vBIOS provided by Chastity first tho.
     
  4. Chastity

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    @jin11: You should consider a repaste, pronto.
     
  5. IM0001

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    So far on the new laptop. I have a load of about mid 60C for the CPU and GPU touches 83C. These numbers seam to be consistent through most games with the latest test being SC2 at Ultra for about 3 hrs.

    Idle temps are around mid 40C for the CPU and about 48C for the GPU right now since its cold back at my home.
     
  6. mikeypinero

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    I have my G73JH just 5 days.
    I tested with Starcraft 2, Bad company 2 & Crysis.

    In idle my gpu frecuencies are 400/1000.
    And my temps are:
    Idle: 65/67º
    Full 3d: Max 98º (in bad company 2) 95º max in starcraft 2 and 96º mas in crysis.

    Are normal this temps?

    The cpu max 69-70º

    I have installed the Bios 211 , last vBios and Catalyst 10.8

    (sorry my bad english)
     
  7. jin11

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    just want to re-check because i don't think this is the way how core frequencies should look like during idle. Not just the GPU but I don't even like the idle temperature for the CPU which was lower than 50 degree Celsius when I first got the laptop and i feel like doing the paste for GPU won't fix the whole problem. Is this normal to be like this after using the laptop for about five month? Should I just do the paste or should i just RMA?
     

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    yep, you need a repaste
     
  9. jin11

    jin11 Notebook Guru

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    just repaste will solve cpu being hot too?
     
  10. Mechanized Menace

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    I recommend Tuniq-TX3 I know its a different computer and GPU but look at my temps IDLE and Max temps after gaming for 4 hours Bad company 2.

    I also rarely turn my Laptop off.

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  11. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    Some of the paste used from the factory has shown to be subpar, and redoing it will fix your temps. I recommend IC Diamond 7 myself ;)
     
  12. jin11

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    thank you very much all of you guys :D
     
  13. Winkyeye

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    '

    what's that gadget you have that monitors the GPU?
     
  14. DvvD

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    Rivatuner GPU Monitor Vista Sidebar Gadget
     
  15. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    It's a nice gadget, however, you have to load up a buch of stuff to get it to display. Thus the reason I moved onto the others I use now.
     
  16. jeprira

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    Which gadgets do you use Chastity?
     
  17. jeprira

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    Which gadgets do you use Chastity?
     
  18. Chastity

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    All CPU Meter & GPU Observer
     
  19. JoeWhee

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    Those are the 2 I use. You don't have to have anything loaded to monitor the GPU temp with it. I only wish it graphed it or showed Min/Max.
     
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    My computer started freezing today while playing Starcraft (strangely, always when I was in the menus). After resetting, I let the computer sit for 10 minutes, checked my temperatures, and the computer was idling at close to 90C. I turned it off and let it cool down for an hour, and after turning it back on and only running a browser, temps went from 60C to 80C within 15 minutes (and still rising). It's fairly hot here (82F in my room), but nothing that should be causing these temperatures.

    Any ideas of what to check? The fans sound like they are running fine, and I can feel the airflow out of the back. Still, I'm not very experienced at troubleshooting these types of problems, so any suggestions would be appreciated.
     
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    hi guys, i need help,

    i just upgrade my windows, then now i can't launch AMD GPU Clock Tools.
    it give error: Cannot obtain appropriate HWservice instance.
    i already reinstall it but still have the same error. how to fix this?
    i'm using AMDGPUClockTool_v0.9.26.0-[Guru3D.com].exe
    thanks in advance.
     
  22. Tim4

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    Maybe one of GPU heatsink screws is loose. If not you need to repaste(yourself or nearest Asus authorised service center).
     
  23. emreowski

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    I've been using G73 like for 5 months now. My temperatures have increased about 8-10 degrees compared to 5 months ago. Yesterday it turned itself down while playing left 4 dead 2. I usually use Nc2000 cooler, wasnt using it yesterday but it made me uncomfortable.

    Mytemps without a cooler now :
    DispIo : 58 idle - around 90 in crysis
    MemIO: 68 idle - around 105 in crysis
    Shader: 62 idle - around 98 in crysis

    I've tried to pull the dirt with a vacuum cleaner but it didnt change anything. Usually I was cleaning my older laptops with compressor but i was unable to find the intake of the fans (where is it ?!?). I don't want to do it from the back side to avoid the dirt getting deeper into the laptop, but i'm thinking this as a last choice.

    If the disassembly of the notebook was easy I could repaste it but I dont want to take out all of the components for a repaste (watched the vid, doesnt seems easy) and actually I am not well experienced in taking out notebook components. As a result what do you suggest? :)
     
  24. emreowski

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    thanks for the reply.
    1- You need to take out almost every component of the notebook to reach to the gpu, and I am afraid of the some sensitive components. I think I am going to delay the repaste for a while, but it seems inevitable to me :). Will keep the arctic silver 5 advise :)
    2-Using without the below panel did not make sense to me, thanks for the advise anyway :).
    3- That makes sense, I ll do it if I cant keep it below 100 degrees. Thanks :)
    4- Using Zalman NC2000 at home, I am happy with it so far :).
     
  25. Jacob86

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    Hello guys,

    I'm not sure about the (safe/good range of temps) of the asus g73 but i will post some temps, yesterday i was playing FFXIV for 4 hours and i reached the following temps:

    CPU: around 65C
    GPU: reached 88C at some point but then stayed at 79-80C

    How can i test my temps? any scenario to follow ? also why the right fan works harder than the one on the left ? is it the GPU fan ? and last newb question what is a repaste? :)

    Thanks all
     
  26. Jody

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    From the Arctic Silver web site:
    My opinion is that all of the good quality pastes are fine. They will be within a degree of each other if applied correctly. Any good application of TX3, ICD7, AS5 or whatever will have you idling in the mid 50s and maxing out below 90.

    I prefer ICD7 but there are others that are good too.
     
  27. Chastity

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    @big_eazy: So let me get this straight... you repasted with AS5, and remove the bottom underside plate and use a dual fan cooler to get your Furmarks down to 75C, not knowing what your ambients temps are.

    I think you are trying way too hard ;)

    I repasted using ICD7, use no cooler, and have my bottom plate closed, and I get 76C (TSS1) Furmarks. Using your method, I get 75C temps, but it is a lot of extra crap to do for just -1C. (ambient 22C)

    http://pcaudio.ath.cx/crap/furmark-noplate-fan.jpg

    On a side note, I noticed that using a modded 10.9a desktop driver, the generic "gpu temp" reports the core temp, instead of whichever is hottest of the three.
     
  28. gajomau

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    @chastity, for example, i'm using an thermaltake massive cs 23 --> YouTube - Asus G73jh with thermaltake massive23 cs cooling pad
    (btw, i made this video), and when im using without tanking the panel of, my gaming temperatures are around 83ºc / 84ºc, but if i take the panel of it goes down to 76ºc / 78ºc...
     
  29. Chastity

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    The point I am trying to make here is that if you redo the TIM properly, and make sure the fans are seated properly, you won't need to use a cooler.
     
  30. gajomau

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    yes, i understood that.. but the point is, the cooling pad not only helps your gpu cooling, but also helps the hard drivers temperatures, ram temperatures ( not all :D, there is one that doesn't benefits from that) motherboard, and so on..
    so overall, my laptop runs even cooler...
     
  31. Chastity

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    IF you are going to run your lappy with the bottom plate open and use a fan, I would HIGHLY recommend getting a 200mm dust filter and use that with tape or screw it in carefully. Otherwise you are going to fill up the interior with dust very quickly.
     
  32. emreowski

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    1- Already watched it a few times, I'm just a little bit afraid to do it :) Now it seems fine with the cooler, I can delay it but it seems inevitable.

    2- Thats a good point, ll keep that in mind. Thanks :)

    3- I usually game on the desk but I'dont use it on desk constantly, so I dont want to taking the back in and out several times. Besides as its mentioned above it ll take dust in it.

    4- I really don't know what were your test conditions but its easy to feel the air flowing from the cooler. Maybe you didnt maxed out the speed of them or something other, dunno. And when you put your hand onto it, its really cold. Anyway I think it's fine, i can see the difference when its on and off easily. Didnt use thermaltake, it may be better I have no idea :)
     
  33. Chastity

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    @big_eazy:

    1) fine. Since you mentioned AS5 as being the best TIM in your earlier post, I thought you repasted with it. I forgot that earlier you mentioned you used TG1.

    2) I stand corrected that you use the thermaltake with the single big fan.

    Now to correct your errors...

    If you look at my furmark, you will see it's running at 700/1000 and that the power icon in the lower corner shows that it is on AC power. So no, I am not rigging the test by running at a lower speed. At stock speeds with no underside cooler with 20-21C ambient my laptop runs a Furmark with 76-77C on TSS1, and 74C on core (TSS0). I have posted this several times in various threads.

    I decided to test with the panel off with an underside fan (Targus Chill Mat) and my temps only dropped -1C.

    If your temps drop 10C by using this, then I guess my system is running more efficiently. People with bad stock thermal applications could benefit, but people with properly done setups will not really benefit from it. The Asus cooling system is rather good, and the convection airflow does an admirable job, since it's designed to run from top and front to back. This is why many others have shown that covering the bottomside doesn't elevate temps much at all. (for example, using it on a bed with no elevation) Which leads us to the next point:

    I have cool temps because I addressed the real problem of the chips running hot with less-than-quality TIM application, rather then compensating it with extreme positive air cooling. The ambient temps for the memory and such are already very comfortable. If one was overclocking the bus and memory, then sure, you may need to improve airflow for those parts. A stock setup will not need this if the heatsinks are TIM'd properly, and secure. The low temps demonstrate that the Asus solution is more than adequate for our laptops. These temps have also been reproduced by others on this forum as well.

    In summary, what I am saying is that it is best to address the high temp heat issue by correcting the problem permanently rather than rely on airflow gadgets and exposing the protective casing. This way one doesn't have to lug around extra gear, and you ensure your hardware will last you as long as you own it.

    So apparently, yes, I went to school.
     
  34. Makou107

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    Not to butt in here but I checked out your last screenshot Chasity and I really like your sidebar gadgets you have running. Where can I find those?
     
  35. Chastity

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    Top: Weather.com gadget
    2nd: GPU Observer
    3rd: All CPU Meter
    4th: Intel TurboBoost Gadget
     
  36. ervins

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    Hi! Can somebody give me advice how to repaste gpu properly, i never been done something like this before. :i
     
  37. <MarkS>

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    Many of the popular thermal compound companies have detailed instructions on their websites. Compounds are different, so application methods can vary.
     
  38. ervins

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    All right, thanks! But in case if someone still wants to share his experience, i would be glad :)
     
  39. Jacob86

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    anyone can answer my concerns on page #63 plz :(
     
  40. CrappyAlloy

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    Those temps are fine.

    If you really want to test your temps, use OCCT or Furmark. OCCT if you want to test your memory/cpu/gpu, and Furmark for just gpu. And yes, the right fan generally works harder because its the one that focuses on the gpu. A "repaste" is just what people say when they replace or redo the thermal compound on their cpu/gpu to make it run cooler.
     
  41. KuroLionheart

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    My temps while gaming usually never go past 70. I've played Resident Evil 5/Left 4 Dead 2 for hours straight and it never went past mid/high 60's, I played DMC4 in a fairly warm room for about 4 hours straight my temps never went past 72. On that note I tried Furmark for the first time for about 45 minutes at 1600x900 with 8X MSAA w/ Xtreme Burning Mode and Post FX. My temps reached a max of 88 degrees but usually hovered around the 85-87 area and this is with stock thermal paste, not overclocked or any altered clocks at all. I take it I have a winner? Although the Furmark temps got a little too high for my comfort zone, should I look into repasting?
     
  42. Chastity

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    Nah, those are fine. Just monitor for creeping increases. If the gaming temps hit the mid 80's then you know Furmark will hit the 90s, so at that point I would start considering a repaste.
     
  43. Tim4

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    Anyone tried Lost Planet 2 here? What are your temps in it? Mine maxes out at 79C on all sensors with ambient 24C. Just want to compare. Thanks in advance.
     
  44. Elrice

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    Hi Guys i think my G73jh might be overheating, the last 2 times i have played Starcraft my laptop has just turned itself off, from reading a few webpages this maybe a symptom of overheating.

    I read a few pages of this thread but don't have time to trawl through all 65 pages.

    I can do the basic things with pc's but im no wizz, i have installed HWmonitor but i found it does not show the graphics chip temp so i downloaded AMD GPU Clock Tool v0.9.26.0 For HD 5870 but it does not show the temp just a zero, am i using this wrong or is it the wrong version?

    Is there anyway i can confirm my laptop is overheating before i phone the computer shop tomorrow?

    Also if it is overheating are they likely to take it back at the computer shop and get it fixed quickly? I could not live very long without my laptop lol.

    On a sidenote i dont understand how a laptop this expensive can have a common fault of overheating which is the impression i am getting with all these posts.

    Oh and one last thing im in the UK so it's not hot at all where my laptop is situated.

    Thnx in advance Elrice.
     
  45. ValkerieFire

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    This model does have cooling issues but once you resolve them it runs like a dream. Do you know your BIOS version? If you have 209 or lower you could upgrade to 211 and get better cooling. If that doesn't work you would need to repaste. To track your temps download GPU-Z at GPU-Z - Free software downloads and software reviews - CNET Download.com

    Run it during a game a then exit out to see your temps. You can also check the log file. I use HWiNFO32 - Free software downloads and software reviews - CNET Download.com Because it records your temps and shows you your high. You shouldn't be having shutdowns unless you are well over 100C. If that is the case upgrade to 211 and repaste your GPU.
     
  46. Winkyeye

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    I just ran furmark for 2 hours at 820/1350 and the program read 86C and hwmonitor read 87C! At stock, I get 80/81
     
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    86C now with Fur Mark, and stock vBIOS.

    I think it's good enough, as the games i play never reach that temperature.
     
  48. ValkerieFire

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    If you are at 86c on a stock G73 I'd say you are pretty lucky. Mine was at 90c and that was considered good.
     
  49. Cheesenium

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    I only run it on default setting.

    Not that daring to run it on the insane Burn setting.
     
  50. xxERIKxx

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    Well I just got my G73JH yesterday and after playing bad company 2 for 4+ hours straight the highest temp I got was my memio at 77.5c and my themal diode at 77c. Seems like my stock paste isn't that bad I just hope it holds up over time.
     
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