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    Asus G73jh GPU temp?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by robjbw, Apr 9, 2010.

  1. lastat

    lastat Notebook Consultant

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    Just wait two or three months more and you will see how the paste good is.
     
  2. kreinhard

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    Thought I'd give an update...

    My GPU temps, using the ATI widget, have been steadily but slowly climbing. A month ago, I picked up a tube of ICD7, but haven't had a chance to use it. Today, I took the plunge. Not only was the heat exchanger half plugged with lint and dust (the likely culprit here), but the paste on the GPU from the factory was all smudged off to one side. I also noticed that two (opposite corners) of the heat exchanger plate weren't screwed down all the way. Weird.

    I cleaned the old stuff off, warmed up the ICD7 in a cup of hot water, then followed the directions. Reassembled everything and I'm much happier. Idling I was in the 60s, now it's hovering between 48 and 50. Can't beat that. I'll fire up an Eve session or maybe CiV or XPlane and we'll see how it holds up.

    YMMV, but I'm very happy.
     
  3. Chastity

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    1) Congrats on the repaste, and Welcome to Team IC Diamond!

    2) Unfortunately, your experience isn't as unique as you think. Unsecure screws and dilapidated paste is more of a common occurrence around here. Add to that RMA the unit and they flash it "with a new vBIOS" that is 1 version too old and doesn't fix anything.

    It's sad really that this kind of Quality Control is still commonplace at Asus.
     
  4. kreinhard

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    Played almost an hour of Trainz 2010:EE (GPU intensive) and temps maxed out at 70, which is a far cry from the 100+ I was seeing in games. Could not be happier.

    Chastity: I think the combination of your OD vBIOS, cleaning out the half-plugged vent and the ICD7 have saved the day. Not happy about the prospect of having to strip it down every six months to clean that exchanger out, but I'd like to keep this thing kicking.

    Oh, and <2 minutes after exiting Trainz, temp has dropped to 56 already. SWEET!
     
  5. foeslayer

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    I am using stock video drivers and bios 211 and I reached 100c in red faction guerrilla today. The nearest repair center is going to be around a 20 hour drive and im not comfortable repasting the gpu myself. Is my only choice to RMA it and will they even accept it without G73jh crashing from getting to hot?

    Secondly with bios 211 I thought fan is suppose to hit max on 76c. Mine is at 30% always till i hit 96 and then it jumps to 100%. This is not right is it?
     
  6. fanqloveyan

    fanqloveyan Notebook Guru

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    repasted my gpu with ic diamond 7 yesterday.I run furmark for 10min,the temperature still high and maxed at 95c.Is there anything I can do? repaste again?
     
  7. Chastity

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    I would also check for dust clogs in your fans, and also if the screws are all tight.

    The temp points are measured by TSS0, which may be as much as 10C lower than TSS1 on a stock paste job.
     
  8. kreinhard

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    When I contacted ASUS about mine, they sent an email back with a bunch of suggestions. I LMAO at the lack of support:

    "Try running the computer in a cooler room"
    "Reinstall your operating system"
    "Defragment your drive"

    It was a hodge-podge of generic trouble-shooting nonsense, none of which addressed an overheating GPU. At that point I decided to just do the job myself. I watched the YouTube video that showed how to disassemble everything a couple of times, and then went through it step-by-step as I tore the laptop down. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.

    My temps have stabilized at 50C while browsing the web (Firefox, many tabs open). I've thrown Eve Online, Trainz 2010:EE and CiV at it so far, all maxed out for graphics, and it's not gone above 76C after ninety minutes of gaming. Not bad considering it was idling in the mid- to high-60s and gaming around 100C prior.
     
  9. Ruckus

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    Maybe the generic customer service rep is not aware.

    But yes you can RMA your notebook for hot GPU, and the techs at the repair centers are well aware and if you read some posts here, the techs will even run Furmark for extended hours to test before shipping back to you. Mason at Fremont, CA is well aware of all this.
     
  10. ValkerieFire

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    As Ruckus said you can RMA it for running hot, but you run the risk of something happening. I'd trust the Fremont, CA facility, but I don't know about the Indiana one. Which one would you use? Check out the link in my signature. It details how to repaste. If it looks too hard, send it in. Honestly it is easier than it looks, but it won't be my problem if it breaks so only do what you are comfortable with.

    I believe your fan is operating correctly. My shuts down entirely (or is quite I cannot hear it below 50c). Then it runs at 30% from then on. I never go over 79c in gaming (Crysis) and furmark averages at 83c (85 high) and still holds at 30%. I think the speed your fan is running at is correct. According to Asus these GPUs are ok to run at over 100c, we just don't want them to!
     
  11. Elrice

    Elrice Newbie

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    Okay thnx for the previous advice, im now at my wits end with this PC, i paid a hell of a lot of money for this PC and now it won't even play Dead Space for more than a minute without shutting down, whats really stange is that it used to and i have not changed the drivers or anything. I logged the temps and this is at idle

    11:49:52 CPU Digital Thermal Sensor CPU#0 Core0 62.0 °C
    11:49:52 CPU Digital Thermal Sensor CPU#0 Core1 59.0 °C
    11:49:52 CPU Digital Thermal Sensor CPU#0 Core2 61.0 °C
    11:49:52 CPU Digital Thermal Sensor CPU#0 Core3 59.0 °C
    11:49:52 ASUS G73 EC CPU 3287 RPM
    11:49:52 ASUS G73 EC GPU 3738 RPM
    11:49:52 Intel PCH PCH Temperature 72.0 °C
    11:49:52 Intel PCH CPU Core 27.442 W
    11:49:52 S.M.A.R.T. ST9500420AS 39.0 °C
    11:49:52 S.M.A.R.T. ST9500420AS Airflow 39.0 °C
    11:49:52 S.M.A.R.T. ST9500420AS 35.0 °C
    11:49:52 S.M.A.R.T. ST9500420AS Airflow 35.0 °C
    11:49:52 ATI On-die @ GPU[#0] ATI Mobility RADEON HD 5870 (BROADWAY XT/GL) GPU Thermal Diode 81.0 °C
    11:49:52 ATI On-die @ GPU[#0] ATI Mobility RADEON HD 5870 (BROADWAY XT/GL) GPU TS0 (DispIO) 74.5 °C
    11:49:52 ATI On-die @ GPU[#0] ATI Mobility RADEON HD 5870 (BROADWAY XT/GL) GPU TS1 (MemIO) 82.0 °C
    11:49:52 ATI On-die @ GPU[#0] ATI Mobility RADEON HD 5870 (BROADWAY XT/GL) GPU TS2 (Shader) 81.5 °C
    11:49:52 ATI On-die @ GPU[#0] ATI Mobility RADEON HD 5870 (BROADWAY XT/GL) GPU Fan Speed 30.00%
    11:49:52 ATI On-die @ GPU[#0] ATI Mobility RADEON HD 5870 (BROADWAY XT/GL) GPU Utilization 0.00%

    and just before shutdown

    11:52:25 CPU Digital Thermal Sensor CPU#0 Core0 76.0 °C
    11:52:25 CPU Digital Thermal Sensor CPU#0 Core1 71.0 °C
    11:52:25 CPU Digital Thermal Sensor CPU#0 Core2 73.0 °C
    11:52:25 CPU Digital Thermal Sensor CPU#0 Core3 71.0 °C
    11:52:25 ASUS G73 EC CPU 4292 RPM
    11:52:25 ASUS G73 EC GPU 5243 RPM
    11:52:25 Intel PCH PCH Temperature 76.0 °C
    11:52:25 Intel PCH CPU Core 37.510 W
    11:52:25 S.M.A.R.T. ST9500420AS 39.0 °C
    11:52:25 S.M.A.R.T. ST9500420AS Airflow 39.0 °C
    11:52:25 S.M.A.R.T. ST9500420AS 36.0 °C
    11:52:25 S.M.A.R.T. ST9500420AS Airflow 36.0 °C
    11:52:25 ATI On-die @ GPU[#0] ATI Mobility RADEON HD 5870 (BROADWAY XT/GL) GPU Thermal Diode 110.0 °C
    11:52:25 ATI On-die @ GPU[#0] ATI Mobility RADEON HD 5870 (BROADWAY XT/GL) GPU TS0 (DispIO) 94.0 °C
    11:52:25 ATI On-die @ GPU[#0] ATI Mobility RADEON HD 5870 (BROADWAY XT/GL) GPU TS1 (MemIO) 110.5 °C
    11:52:25 ATI On-die @ GPU[#0] ATI Mobility RADEON HD 5870 (BROADWAY XT/GL) GPU TS2 (Shader) 108.5 °C
    11:52:25 ATI On-die @ GPU[#0] ATI Mobility RADEON HD 5870 (BROADWAY XT/GL) GPU Fan Speed 100.00%
    11:52:25 ATI On-die @ GPU[#0] ATI Mobility RADEON HD 5870 (BROADWAY XT/GL) GPU Utilization 0.00%

    As you can see the GPU is getting very hot, what would cause this though considering it used to play these games fine? The room i play in is cool and the PC is clean so dust is not a factor, as it seems to be a new problem im wondering if a reformat of the hard drive and intsall of windows would help, maybe it is software related?

    Im going to start looking in to how to get the laptop repaired by ASUS if this does not work, any ideas guys?

    Cheers Elrice.
     
  12. kreinhard

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    In my case, it was caused by a massive build up of dust and lint in the heat exchangers, and a crappy factory thermal paste job on the GPU. Once I resolved both (ICD7 paste FTW!) of those issues, I idle in the high 40s/low 50s and hours of Eve Online, CiV or XPlane only push the temps up into the 70s. YMMV.

    EDIT: I should add that I updated the vBIOS to the Chastity hot-rodded version and my GFX drivers are currently 10.10 from ATI directly.
     
  13. Elrice

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    Okay guys i visited the PC shop and got me some paste, they had no IC so i got MX-2 im going offline now to strip this down i'll let you know how it go's thnx
     
  14. Elrice

    Elrice Newbie

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    Disaster :( Don't know what i did wrong, i have built PC's before and applied thermal paste with no problem, i stripped the laptop down applied the paste just to the GPU did not mess with the CPU put it all back together and nothing no power at all from mains or battery, stripped again and assembled again but still dead as a dodo, what now?
     
  15. Toxictaru

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    Check and see if you got some a wire (specifically a wireless antenna) caught between the case and the BIOS reset button.
     
  16. FlowCpu

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    I hope everything works out for you elrice
     
  17. ValkerieFire

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    As toxic said, check and make sure the wifi wires are not touching the reset bios reset button. It is best to look at the botton itself as the wifi wires can loop around and hit it even if the wires straight off the wifi card look ok. This happened to me, it took me two reassemblies to realize it was just this simple thing.
     
  18. Amitosh

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    TSS1 maxes out at 86c on Furmark.

    Other to are 72c and 74c.

    My old G73 would shoot up to 101.5c in minutes!

    Metro 2033 used to hit 98c now it hits 81c!

    I consider my self lucky considering these are stock temps.
     
  19. Vtec503

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    Just got the G73 in yesterday. I'm assuming 52C at idle is normal at a ambient temp of 65F? Thanks
     
  20. ValkerieFire

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    Sounds about right. I run 50-52c idle at 70F ambient. Furmark will give you a better idea where you stand. Let us know your temp after a 10 minute stability test.
     
  21. Vtec503

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    I haven't tried Furmark yet but I've been playing COD: Black Ops for about an hour or so and haven't seen my temps go over 90C yet.

    Update: Just ran Furmark. Temps went up to 96C...
     
  22. DH48

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    So far my JH-B1 temps. Idle at 50c and and goes up to 73c. Clocked 800/1100 idles at 55 and max i have seen is 76c.

    I ordered a notebook cooler before i got the G73JH thinking i was going to need it...now it seems i will not . :D
     
  23. ValkerieFire

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    A little on the hot side but not abnormal for stock paste. As long as you can game happily you are ok since games dont run as hot as furmark. Over time that paste will degrade, your temps will rise, and then you'll get thermal shutdowns. You'll need to repaste then. Also check your bios version. If you are not using the 211 BIOS you should upgrade. 211 increases fan RPMs for better cooling.
     
  24. rorage

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    idle not idel
    ordered not orderd
     
  25. ValkerieFire

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    Maybe his keyboard is missing key strokes. I make typos all the time but try to edit them out.
     
  26. Vtec503

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    Yeah, I'm using BIOS 211. That was one of the first things I checked when I got it. Is that why the GPU fan is audible even at idle? Reviews I've read about this says it suppose to be "near silent" or "super quiet". Doesn't bother me that much, just saying. But yeah my Furmark temp reflects on a 20 minutes test, not 10 minutes like you ask me to do.
     
  27. DH48

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    I do not use english on a daily basis. Idel/Idle was a typo. Ordered/orderd might be a key stroke. After updating wia Asus liveupdate i have started getting missing key strokes.....strange.

    Hope you forgive me for this error..... :rolleyes:


    Furmark test for 20min got me max 74c.

    Is it me or does the GPU fan have only certain temps that it speeds up and not smoothly. The fan turns up to 50% at 74c and turns down to 30% at 73c. Sound´s like someone reving a vacume cleaner :D
     
  28. ValkerieFire

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    That's normal for 211. I couldn't hear my G73 at all on 209, but I also got thermal shutdowns is minutes of running furmark (106c+). Your temps would be even higher if you didn't have 211, just a trade off.
     
  29. Travelor

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    Hello All,

    Request for advice on my 4 month old G73JH BestBuy Model -
    Do I need to begin preparing for a Repaste of my GPU Heatsink???

    I spent 30 Minutes running through a Benchmark Version of Resident Evil 5 running DirectX 10 at the highest settings. I have attached a screen shot of the HWiNFO32 Sensor Status -
    The GPU Idle temps prior to running the benchmark are between 62c-65c. As seen in the HWiNFO32 sensor status I reached 92c during the benchmark testing.

    Your Input is requested and respected!!!

    In Peace and Agape,
    Trav...
     

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  30. rorage

    rorage Notebook Evangelist

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    if you feel comfortable you can do a repaste, I had similar temps after the RMA (reached about 92 on mem IO) I did a repaste, strangely the idle temps remained the same, but under load they decreased by ~5 degrees
    Also the new vBIOS added 2 degrees to my temps :|
     
  31. ValkerieFire

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    You can probably go while without repasting. I got to 91c before I repasted, but it ran fine otherwise. Once you get over 100c then you'll want to.
     
  32. lawine1991

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    Mine has a temperature of 75C and goes up to 100C when Im playing a game at high graphics. I've been using it for 6 months now, so far no problems...
    Still I'm worried if its not normal :S
     
  33. ValkerieFire

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    You should read this... http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...titys-thoughts-repasting-read-here-first.html

    The problem is games vary in their gpu usage, so you might be at 100C today, but if you play a more demanding game you might get a thermal shutdown. That is why I like furmark, there are less variables and the gpu is at 100% load (if you run it correctly). If your furmark is over 100C, and I'm sure yours is since furmark runs hotter than any game I know of, then a repaste is definitely in your future.
     
  34. lawine1991

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    Yea I ran furmark just now and it went up to 104C... then i got this cracking noise from my speakers. I did not have this problem in a long time before i ran furmark...So repaste IS definite..
     
  35. nukyew2

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    Hey, I'm very new here, and I own a G73JH. I've owned it for 9 months now and I've never repasted it or opened it to clean it (it's way overdue). In fact, I had never heard of "repasting" it until I stumbled across this thread. I get the general idea of what repasting is though. Just don't know how or where.

    Anyways my problem is that I can't run graphic intensive games anymore without the computer shutting down. I could play Crysis, TF2, MW2, Left 4 Dead 2, and Portal at full settings for hours. Now I can't get by 10-15 minutes without a sudden shutdown. I've dealt with it for months now but I just can't take it anymore. The crashes happened about 6 months after I got it. At first I assumed it was a software problem; or even a virus.

    Now I know it's a cooling problem. I installed the program SpeedFan to monitor the temp. and it's idling at 75C currently with the fans kicking in randomly (it makes sudden jumps to 80-82C). I don't know how high it gets for games but it's apparently enough to make it shut down. The G73 won't even start up again until a solid 5 minutes after it's off. It's showing all the signs of a cooling problem (Thermal Shutdown I think).

    I just don't know what to do! I hardly know anything about repasting. What it is, how to do it, or if it will even solve my problem (assuming it's even related to my problem)! Can anyone help me out on this one? Thanks a million.
     
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    Your shutdowns are from the GPU thermal protection kicking in.

    1) Clean out your outtake vents with some compressed air.

    2) If you want to repaste, in your case, I would suggest having a tech do it for you. You do not sound very confident in your tech skills, and it's not a layman's job.
     
  38. rorage

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    also if you're can't do any at the time, a temporary solution may be to downclock your GPU
     
  39. nukyew2

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    Alright, cool. My tech skills aren't mediocre but they're not professional either. I've installed RAM chips to upgrade the memory, swapped out the old HDD for larger ones (500gb each), and I've taken my desktop computer apart to completely clean it out (all easy to do stuff that anyone can do, I'm sure). I just haven't completely taken this laptop apart. I looked up the repasting tutorials and BTOtech's G73 tutorial on taking it apart and I'm confident I can do it. I really really appreciate the help!
     
  40. Celtic_Bhoy

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    Ok so I've been reading this entite thread for the last few days, along with other info on the ROG boards and some stuff from Asus.

    Ive had a G73 for about 4 months, its summer here and in the last month Ive noticed two things:

    - 3 Shutdowns/overheating blackouts after playing SC2 for around an hour, this is without any cooling and in a typical New Zealand humid summer (ambient 27c).

    - Ocassional and sudden slowing down in overall performance, the machine basically becomes very sluggish. Normally this is after running some load onto the the GPU.

    I have had no other issues, no vertical stripes or Grey screens, just blackouts with a 'cooldown' period and some very occasional sluggish performance that calls for a quick reboot.

    So Ive run Furmark with just stability and the other tests and got a max of 100c for just stability and 105c (maxed tests) after 10 mins. (ambient around 23-24 c).

    I reckon on hot days its pushing everything up to the 110 shutdown temp.

    Im not really that bothered, with a coolermaster Notpal I get 84c now playing SC2/FM2011 and Crysis.

    I still have the Stock BIOS and ATI drivers, Im going to go to 209 and 10.10 this weekend to see if I get a shift down. However I reckon a repaste is definitely on the near horizon.

    Having been an Electronic Eng for years I know that components can take along time to degrade with these heat levels.

    That said its really quite sad that Asus cant design decent cooling after all that marketing about 'leading edge' design for thermals.

    I will contact my local Asus guys here in NZ, however I am more than capable to do this myself and after reading Chastity and other posts I will more than likely maintain my own machine.

    A good notebook cooler has been a decent invesment but it will not completely solve/get rid of the problem that Asus have disgracefully left us with.

    Many thanks to all those on these Forums for your posts and guides!!
     
  41. kanagye

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    My gpu reaches 75 after an hour or two of BC2.
     
  42. Tim4

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    Go for 211 bios and latest amd drivers. 209 won't change much in your temps. Asus changed thermal policy only in 211. Good luck with your updates and repasting. After repaste this machine will work as it should. :)
     
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    I was just wondering if anyone knew the best place to get ICD7 paste in the uk? My GPU idles at 70- 80 and on a furmark benches out at 110 after about 1 min, shutting the whole thing down. Still ned to update the bios and drivers, but repast def needed!
     
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    Well 211 Bios did nothing, fan still only hits 100% at 95c........useless ASUS !

    Actually, I think the fans kick in at 91c as I can hear them, GPU-Z is obviously not reading correctly, my temps have lowered a little but this is mainly due to a lower ambient as well (20c). Will be repasting over the holidays......
     
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    I ran a Furmark for 1 hour and the max temperature shown is 77c, which is good. However when I check the HWinFO32 which I ran in the background at the same time, the max temp for the GPU is 92c, so which one should I trust? Thanks in advance.
     
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    There are 3 thermal sensors inside the gpu die. TSS_0 (dispIO), TSS_1 (memIO), TSS_2 (shader). Since driver 10.10 ATI (AMD) changed the default order of output to tss_0 instead of tss_1. So, many thought (also myself :eek:), that the new driver would run "cooler". But tss_1 will normaly get hotter under load than tss_0. Furmark and other tools will report tss_0 now. Best is to check temps with amd gpu thermal tool or hwinfo32.
     
  47. Hex3n

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    I usually don't post on forums but after such great results, so I want to share


    In November I started receiving the black screen of death after 15 minutes of BFBC2. Before this my computer had shutdown once due to overheating. I ran GPUZ and HWINFO32 and noticed the Thermal Diode at about 110 degrees and after a few more minutes it would black screen. I decided to upgraded to the vBIOS and 211 and restored my OS using an OEM disc and left the "bloatware" out, now the Thermal Diode was 106C without shutting off woo hoo right and idling at about 80C

    At this point I figure if I keep running at this temp I'm going to fire my video card sooner than later. Time to repaste!!!

    After the repaste the units Thermal Diode = 54.0C and the GPU TS0 = 46.5C.
    IC Diamond 7 FTW. I also repasted the CPU while I was at it. This took me about an 1Hr 15m to complete and I've been in the IT field for a long time.

    Take aways: The keyboard isnt really that hard to take off, just take your time, I figured it was going to be a pain after the BTO video. If you need need a way to seperate your screws just put them in an ice tray for each section or take a piece of paper and outline the computer and put the screws in the spots on the piece of paper as if it was the computer. Last but not least, if you think you bricked your computer make sure you put a memory module aka RAM in the " white " slot or it will not POST.
     
  48. DCx

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    Hex3n, how's your TSS1 look under load?
     
  49. Hex3n

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    Screenshots attached with results.


    I would like to say I do have the Best Buy version, so I don't have the higher res screen, so my results might differ. I was for this laptop because of the case and video card. Honestly 1600x900 looks good to me, I must be going blind. I paid $840 dollars for the laptop in all fairness I figured something like was going to happen.

    You might ask why I stopped furmark at after 15 minutes. This was due to the temp monitor on the program going between 75C - 77C. After my computer hit 77C my fans would kick in and it would drop back down to 75C.

    TSS1 = 89.5C after repasting, which is more then 20C difference over all !! BFBC2 never goes over 89C.
     

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    Thank you. I'm on the fence about repasting, TSS0 hits 90 on a furmark run, and TSS1 goes to 105. I'd really like to, but I paid extra for the warranty ... and although I do laptop work all the time, it's generally not on under-warranty laptops ... and I worry that *this* will be the time I slip and ruin my speaker cable, or something else.

    Any other tips for repasting - things that were particularly touchy?
     
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