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    Asus G73jh GPU temp?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by robjbw, Apr 9, 2010.

  1. Chastity

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    @DCx: If you are worried about the warranty, take it to an ASP and have them repaste it. This will not void your warranty.
     
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    My only local ASP is an hour away, ... and has a 10 day minimum repair time right now (apparently they're busy), ... and refuse to use anything other than their "usual" paste, ...and I'd have to rent a car to get it there and back, ...and when I spoke with them, they refused to simply repaste - they'll be running a "full diagnostic", because according to the tech I spoke with, it's never a problem with the paste, and that it's much more likely my heatsink has cracked.

    So yeah, I'll preserve my warranty if I deal with them. And they'll "find" problems, I'm sure. Like taking your car into a disreputable service station, suddenly you find that you don't just need an oil change, but a new transmission or some such repair.

    I'm not saying that I won't take it to them - only that it's even MORE frustrating than dealing with asus for repairs.
     
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    Personally man I wouldn't worry about the warranty stuff. The technicians at these service centers aren't going to do any better job then you would. If you do the job right they won't even notice you opened the laptop. Say they thought you opened up the laptop you could aways just say you were changing out the memory module under the keyboard :D The guys at these service centers are monkeys and if they had any clue about the products they work on, they wouldn't have said that it was a cracked heatskin Lol.


    Techs these days = Help Desk, they usually just read from manuals on a database helping to solve the problem without understanding the issue. Service Desk Technicians just guess and go. The diagnostics they'll run are something like PC-Check which is a waste of their and your time for this problem. Then they'll guess and go such as " cracked heatskin " instead of doing their research and understanding the product that produced.
    Quality of Service........................
     
  4. thic

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    Took quite a while but read this whole thread. Invaluable.

    I am currently awaiting my third ac adapter (first stock one blew on trip, second generic replacement died during a game play, awaiting third stock one). As soon as they arrive, I plan to check for dust, then download furmark and give this a try. I did have HWmonitor and it showed me gpu over 100C playing Dragon Age: Origins (I am new to gaming and I play slow for now) but on high graphics -- after al this is the G73JH, after all, right?

    If all fails, I'll consider getting a cooler, then the paste.
     
  5. Yiddo

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    I got mine here matey cheap fast delivery and plenty in the tube.

    Am I hearing this correctly? I think many of us would have paid to see DCx repaste with IC7 :) do a proper job new thermals and the Poddington Pea method.

    DO IT! Join the 3500RPM full load club! :D
     
  6. Chastity

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    Targus APA05US 180W Universal Notebook AC Adapter w/3 L-Shaped P [APA05US-BULK-R] - $38.75 : Computer Parts, 423-650-4286

    It's worth having a second PSU brick around, especially when they're not expensive.
     
  7. tijo

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    Speaking of power bricks, does anyone know where to get one of these babies in Canada. I've searched on that store's site but it couldn't find if they shipped outside of the US. Heck, even with 25$ shipping this wouldn't be a bad price for a PSU. Newegg, amazon and NCIX don't have a 180W PSU either.
     
  8. Chastity

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    P-APA05US: Targus 180W AC Power Notebook Adapter

    took me 3 seconds to find that :)
     
  9. tijo

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    You're putting me to shame ;), but thanks. After checking NCIX and co, i went straight to the targus canada website and it wasn't even listed there so i kinda gave up.
     
  10. gallant

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    Does anyone remember what was your GPU temp when you had this laptop in "new" condition (less than 1 week after opened from the box) ?
     
  11. Yiddo

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    It ran hot very hot 100oC + if I remember correctly with my A1 but this was mainly because of the poor driver support at the time of release for the 5870M and that it was the original BIOS and VBIOS. Its hard to compare because the BIOS updates made a big difference.

    The issues were not fixed for several months after and I faced a variety of BSOD/GSOD freezes crashes and just generally a knightmare with the mouse and keyboard etc and in the end was so fed up got rid of mine.

    Then when the fixes started rolling out I picked up the BST version for $500 cheaper than what I sold mine for months before and now its lovely :D
     
  12. AsusS

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    What are the temps with new bios ?

    And video bios ?

    Idle and under load ?
     
  13. Yiddo

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    Again this debateable and cannot give a true light because everyone has a different card, different settings, different paste, different results.

    Mine at standard with furmark ran at 107oC before I got the shakes and shut it down.

    After VBIOS/BIOS before Repaste furmark causes it to reach 96oC - 101oC

    After IC7 repaste + 0.5mm thermal pads + total clean. 82-84C max :D
     
  14. tijo

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    Here are my temps when i first got the laptop in May 2010. That's on stock vBios and bios 206 or 209.

    [​IMG]

    I get way lower memIO and shader temps now though.

    EDIT: This is the wrong pic, the right one is my next post. Kept it this way for the sake of Dallers reply
     
  15. Yiddo

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    Those idle temps are with clocks 405/700 as well so pretty high.
     
  16. gallant

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    wow that's really cool, mine is G73A2 and the BIOS is the latest version, mine is like 10 degrees hotter than yours
     
  17. Chastity

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    65C ? I would check your vents and perhaps consider a repaste.
     
  18. tijo

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    Oh right, wrong picture, sorry. Facepalm. I'll get the right one, i went a bit too fast i guess. I should mention that those temps are using Opera an opening/closing lots of tabs which cause my clocks to go from to 400 to 700 every second or so and at 24C ambient in the office.

    Here are the right load temps.

    [​IMG]

    Again, sorry for the mistake. I was idling at around 58-60 at that time. I don't have my G73 with me right now, i'm on the N50 so i don't have access to a pic of my idles from may 2010.

    I didn't get temps quite as good as Chastity's or yours at idle on AC, it's more around 50C when i'm on MS word so i'm somewhere between you and DCx. Still on stock clocks, i don't go over 79C in furmark.
     
  19. Madcow_101

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    New to the forum so I apologize if this is a lame question.

    Hey Dallers I was wondering what you meant with .5 mm thermal pads?
    You added thermal pads and thermal compund in between your GPU and heatsink?

    Thank you for any replies
     
  20. Yiddo

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    The blue and grey bits on the heatsink in this photo fella.

    They conduct heat away from the VRAM and memory controllers (on a 5870M there will be a couple of small rectangle pieces and square piece also), although the stock pads are fine having thinner pads with higher thermal conductivity can results in lower MEM(IO) temps for me 3oC lower at full load and overall the temps were generally more even with the diode. The stocks ones are either 1mm or 1.5mm so I swapped them out of 0.5mm and the heatsink fits perfectly now as mine was slightly raised.

    I used IC7 on the GPU not pads.
     
  21. DCx

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    I have a thread in my signature with 15+ people who all have 85-95 degrees at load. Whether or not this is normal, I can't say. But there are only 2-3 vocal people here who have 77-ish at load temps, and a lot more with higher.
     
  22. tijo

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    Chastity and Dallers have awesome temps to name two. Personally, i repasted with ICD7 after my initial MX-2 repaste and changed the thermal pads as well. From what i've gathered, if you have a c1x card, do a good job at repasting and change the pads, you should be able to achieve low 80s in furmark which should translate in temps around 75C while gaming. This is assuming good thermal paste, very good repaste, better thermal pads and a c1x GPU since they run less hot than the c0x ones. If you get something like 85 there's no point in repasting again unless you like tinkering with the laptop like some of us.

    EDIT: i used less ICD7 than i used MX-2 and changed the pads when i switched to ICD7 so i can't really tell which factor had the most influence. Oh and i get ~79C core/83C mem in furmark at 22C ambient with that. Before the second repaste, i had temps more like DCx described.
     
  23. @tilla

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    All temp sensors are on the GPU die itself!
    On a stock MXM card (i.e. MSI 5870m) only the gpu and the vram is covered with the heatsink.
    I think the other covered parts (with pad) on the Asus card are just placebo cooling. :D

    I have such temps with MX-3 and stock pads. IC7 to be any better is just a mythos or another placebo effect.
     
  24. tijo

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    I know all sensors are on the die itself :p, i just wanted to differentiate the temps i got. When i said mem, i meant the memory controller on the die. I never said ICD7 was better than another, i said that i didn't know which one, ICD7 over MX-2, better paste job or newer pads had the most effect on my temps since i did all three at the same time. I think most of us agree that the paste job has more importance than the paste itself. I found ICD7 easier to apply over MX-2 due to it's higher viscosity though.

    EDIT: In response to below, whether is was meant for me or not, i just thought i should corroborate what you and DCx said about the paste job. Anyways, striving for ~75C core is nice for the lower fan speeds. The GPU fan no longer hits full speed while playing SC2 :D.
     
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    Sry, but you wasn't meant. :p
     
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    In the eyes of the informed ones, its has never been about the efficacy or performance of the thermal paste brand, but of the convenience of ICD7 that makes it the better choice.

    Its non conductive, so it has a lower error threshold for newbies repasting their laptops.
     
  27. @tilla

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    Uh, I never had problems with a tim like MX-3. IDK what else can be easier.

    I also had Liquid Pro and Liquid MetalPad on my CPU. This is a little bit dangerous. :)
    There aren't so much tims which are conductive.
     
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    You being one of only 2 instances where an MSI HD5870m is transplanted into a G73JH doesn't exactly peg you as a newbie does it. :)
     
  29. Yiddo

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    Totally agree with this I repasted with AS5 several times and it was very much about the application of the paste, when using IC7 the stuff is so thick it matters little about how it is applied the results I have found remain the same.

    Its a very good TIM for beginners because the pea method does the job for you when you reseat the heatsink just dont hang around after application because it sets like a bad night on the beers and curry :confused2:
     
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    after (~3rd) repaste I have ~ 79-85-77 degrees C at load.
    58-61-54 idle.
     
  31. aDDiction

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    I am getting temps around 100-110C when i play games like Assassin's Creed II. When playing mostly everything else that is fairly modern i get anywhere from 80-mid 90s. Should i be worried about frying my GPU? D:
     
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    Agree with Allur... I have had my g73 for just over a year, and still idle in the 50's and hit mid 70's gaming. I do, however, open it up once a month and spray air through it to keep out dust and whatever, and to clear out the vents. Cheaper and easier than repasting, replacing the gpu or RMA.
     
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    Hi everyone!

    I have a question for you. I remember when I had the 209 BIOS version on my G73JH, I used to get high GPU temps (99c). Then I upgraded it to 211, and the GPU fan did kick in louder than it did with 209. This solved my overheating issues pretty much. The problem is that I just realized that for some reason the GPU fan doesn't kick in that loud as it used to. Well I'm still on 211, so I don't know what has happened. According to HWiNFO32, my maximum GPU fan RPM is 4515.

    What is going on?
     
  35. tijo

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    4515 is the normal maximum for the GPU fan. Everyone who posted their fan RPM did hit ~4500RPM at full speed.
     
  36. micman

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    Just wanted to post my temps from a recent Starcraft II session after I have done a repaste and updated the vBios to Chastity's od_fix2. Running on overclocked core and memory frequencies.

    [​IMG]
     
  37. Chastity

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    Ahh, very nice. "GOOD JOB!"
     
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    damn I see all these temps and I see myself getting 78 at browsing! this thing needs a repaste for sure
     
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    ^^or a clean out of the vents?? Youd be surprised how much that alone may help :D
     
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    I was initially skeptical about cleaning the vents. But I would recommend it now, do that first before freaking out about anything else.
     
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    mmm was pretty skeptical about this earlier but having seen a video of how its done + read numerous opinions on it...have to agree, this is precisely what I need

    I'm 100% sure there is a lot of dust in this thing because this apartment (rental) kinda sucks and feels quite dusty...now i gotta go out and see where I can get air cans in singapore...exploration time!
     
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    and the cooling seems to have paid off...now my idle temps are around 59-60 while browsing temps as high (low?) as 68...nice!!
     
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    I have a ASUS G73SW-BST6
    I live in Brasil... so I have a MUCH BIGGER problem.... the warranty is valid only there in USA...
    I opened my laptop, REPASTED, with Arctic Silver 5, did ALL things correctly, JUST TO FIND OUT THAT ----->>> THE GPU FAN WAS BLOCKED!!!!!!
    acctually, I have the notebook for 3 months... and it was working FINE before... I used to play for hours, and a couple of times I checked the temperature, and it was FINE... like, 10 HOURS PLAYING it wouldn't go over 67, 70º C.....

    NOW, all of a sudden, IT's GETTING 90 with 10 minutes playing... THE FAN SIMPLY STOPPED WORKING!!! WHY???? its NOT DUST, IM SURE! VERY SURE!...
    NOW, here in BRASIL there ISN'T, simply, ISN'T anything that FITS this motherboard... NO COOLER FAN is compatible...

    I think i'm gonna have to BUY a fan FROM USA... wait for like MONTHS...
    very, VERY disappointing...

    [EDIT]:
    I FIXED!!!! OMG, I AM NINJA!!!!! NINJA JYRAIA!!!!
    I cut off the center of the cooler ( leaving just the plastic/metal cover ) and repleaced with another center of another cooler ( a 7 YEARS OLD cooler from my old laptop!! heheheh )
    I MADE A BEAUTIFUL ARTWORK, HAND ARTWORK, BEAUTIFUL!!!
    The cables are as thin as HAIR... I reconnect them, WELDING, in different combinations, to match the Asus cooler combinations...
    NOW: My very very silent Asus startup with MAXIMUM COOLING, LOTS OF NOISE, like AN AIRPLANE!!! YEAHHHH!!!!!!!
    hehehe, 33º C in idle, and with 10 hours playing: 55º C!!!!!!!
    PERFECT!!!!!!!!!! YEAHHH BABY!!!
     
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    Hey everyone, so I've been reading around these forums for quite a while now since I have been having shut down problems for the longest time. It seems that I received one of the inferior, over heating models and never minded until now since Skyrim and ME3 will be coming out soon. I called the callcenter and will do an RMA and specifically asked the person for an address to personally drop off my g73.

    Now my question is, what will an RMA really do? Will they actually get the job done or should I expect the worst and order some paste.

    BTW fun fact, I was fiddling around with FurMark and I can't remember the settings but I did remember seeing 130+° c and I dont feel like redoing that test. haha.

    Also don't know if this helps but here are some temps.
     

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    Are these at idle ? Or stresstesting ? We need some more info on that bro.
    But just by looking at it, you can tell that your CPU is running to hot. (Unless you started the test after you ran 10minutes of prime95 lol).
     
  46. Support.4@XOTIC PC

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    130C!!??? That's well beyond the danger zone on that. Generally, you don't want your temps exceeding 95-100C as even that is pushing it. If you RMA it, they can see if it's a pasting issue, faulty card, etc. I would definitely contact your reseller on that to look into starting that process.
     
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    The temps were at idle and it was on for about three to four hours before that image was capture also idling or light browsing (5 tabs on Firefox at most) and ambient temp is around 15° possibly lower since the insulation in my bedroom is terrible.

    Also with all these figures I've seen I'm not entirely sure or ranges but CoreTemp shows easily 90°c+ playing pretty awful, non-intensive games.

    I'm not really sure I can contact the reseller to do anything about this since it has been over a year since I've had this laptop. I'm not sure if I'm optimistic or ignorant to have been oblivious to my shutdowns and just figured that the games I were playing (Just Cause 2, ME2) were incompatible.
     
  48. tijo

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    Do you have a non Best-Buy model and live in Canada or the US?. If the answer to both questions is yes, then you have a 2 year warranty that comes standard with the laptop. Contact Asus and RMA or get an ASP near you to do the service.
     
  49. octiceps

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    Well, I've had my G73JH for almost a month now and am loving it. I've had absolutely no problems and just recently was able to get a stable overclock at 825/1085.

    When I was first researching this laptop, I saw lots of threads and reviews talking about its overheating problems. I don't know if updating all those BIOS did the trick or I'm just lucky, but my temperatures have been absolutely awesome since I got it. Check it out:

    [​IMG]

    That's after running FurMark Burn-In Test for 15 minutes with every possible setting at highest. Clocks are OC'ed at 825/1085. The temps stabilize around 77-78 C and never go above that. At first I thought they were too low to be true but after checking GPU-Z and ATI Tray Tools they were further validated.

    Just thought I'd share this. I'm a very happy camper right now. :D
     
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  50. imglidinhere

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    Yeah... give it about six months and report those temps again. That i7 is reknowned for being a little more than just warm. That and the GPU does tend to get pretty toasty. My 460M doesn't hit 66*C in games just for comparison. :p
     
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