Asus G73jh GPU temp?

Very nice with stock thermal paste.

 

Thanks! Can't be happier with this laptop. Asus exceeded my expectations!

 

not for me it overheats when playing any intensive games and shuts-down

 

Its like someone said earlier, its a lottery.
My guess would be that they hired some monkeys to add the thermal paste to the GPU's, and that some of them thought it was food, and accidently ate it instead of putting it on the card..
Don't worry though, the monkeys are doing fine .

PS: just ordered my thermal paste (ocz freeze) on ebay, so everyone wish me good luck .

 

That was me =P

And that theory is just crazy enough to be true lol, given the complete randomness of everyone's temps

Mine even has 4 stuck pixels, but I'm not a very picky person and they're only really visible at certain angles (only one is a bit noticeable here and there), but to have the GPU problems is saddening lol

Good luck to you though, hope it works out!

Report back here with your results once you've applied it!

And if you dont mind me asking, how much did it run you? Still tryin to work up the courage to do it myself here lol

 

Your temps seem to have been a problem for awhile. Why haven't you redone your paste?

 

The first thing I did (as a wise geek) was to do some research; Found this site where they tested several paste's: Benchmark Reviews: Performance Computer Hardware Tests
Than i searched ebay for it, and found the ocz freeze for only €8,00 including shipment^^

Here's a noobvid of how to apply the thermal paste correctly, for people who are uncertain of it: YouTube - How Thermal Compound Spreads (MX-2 Edition)
Hope it helps, and I'll post some temps after I did the pasting, and on a scale of 1 to 10 of how hard it was to do so. And the time it costed me lol. If anything else pops up, let me know .

 

Alright guys… here is one gamer from Pakistan… (Yes we’ve got gamers here too!) I just got my g73jh-x1 and the customs officials told me that this is the first G73 in the country! Sadly, I guess I also failed to win the lottery with the GPU temps cos I’m getting low 70s in idle and in gaming it goes up to 100 easy. Furmark crashes the notebook in under a minute as temperatures hit 110. I’ve got BIOS 206 and thinking about going to BIOS 209 if that will help with the GPU issues.

As it stands, there is no way to get Arctic ice or any other high end paste here. All I can find is stock stuff in the market which looks really shady. I am very very scared of taking apart this notebook and applying the paste myself since it seems from the videos that you have to tear down the whole notebook to get to the video card to apply the paste.

What I wanna know is that what would be the simplest way to get to the video card and reapply the thermal paste? Second, how dangerous is going to bios 209 to solve GPU heating issues? I’ve added another HD to the notebook on my own (without using a caddy and just a strip of Styrofoam to keep it tight in place) and that seems to be running fine. However, that was certainly the easy part cos it only needed the opening of two screws.

There is also no way I can RMA it since it was bought in California, transferred to Canada and then imported to Pakistan. It took me a week just to get it through customs and the last thing I want is to part with it for 6-8 weeks since it is also my main work notebook which I’m using to run Ubuntu and 2008 server as VMs…

Any Help?

 

Here is nice article from benchmark review. About applying thermal paste. I guess, that it will be really good, if someone during thermal paste replacement will take photos and make some kind of guide for those people that want to change their TIM on G73.

 

As far as I know the easiest (probably only) way to the GPU is as shown in that video. That's what I did to lower my load temps from 110C (shutdown like yours) to 94C max. Before I applied thermal paste, I installed BIOS 209 and it did not help with GPU temperatures.

That "stock stuff" might be worth a try...anything is better than the stock thermal pads, especially improperly installed ones that are causing high temperatures in some G73s. For your situation I don't know what to recommend...

 

Do you sell IC diamond separately? I want one but no luck, can't find one here.

 

I would just follow the application method here
Innovation Cooling

 

I guess, that this review of thermal interfaces proved again, that there is not so much difference between them. Just compare results of stock G73 thermal paste



and IC diamond that Ken Lee from GentchPC applied

 

It's the application method that's the most important, Asus probably hastily applied their thermal past because of the large demand.

 

They use thermal pads instead of paste. It's much faster to apply but can still be done sloppily, as evident in the huge range of temperatures different G73s are showing in this forum.

 

They do use paste for core I think, for video memory, every manufacturer is using pad.

 

Yes, they do paste for core and memory modules are covered with thermal pads. Huge difference in temperatures for G73 could be explained also with GPU aluminum heat sink tightening.

 

Problem is, you don't even know what's the vmem temp, the only temp you can see in software is the core temp, the memIO temp (which is still in the core), and the shader temp (which is also in the core). So, the only concern is the thermal paste on the core, changing the pad to past won't improve the temp, because the thermal monitor only monitors core temps in the first place.

 

tell me how it worked, I might replace it as well, it's not acceptable to overheat even on older games and shutdown

 

Thanks Tim4 and Yuxi.

Yuxi, I hope the thermal paste application wasn’t a nerve wracking process  how would you rate it on a scale of 1-10 in terms of the difficulty of opening up your notebook and finishing up the job. Any precautions you strongly recommend?

 

hello, have you also replaced the thermal pads on the VRAM or you left them as they were? thanks

 

Following the video step by step, I'd give it a 3 (and this is my first time opening up a laptop). Took about 2 hours total. My advice would be to (1) keep track of all the screws, and (2) be careful with the ribbon cables.

I didn't have double-sided tape under my keyboard so that came out very easily, but you might have to be more careful removing the keyboard to avoid bending/breaking it.

 

I really don't see how anyone who RMA'd because of GPU heat issues got their notebook back within 4 or 5 days. I sent my notebook in July 1st. I know it was 4th of July weekend but keep in mind I live only 2 hours away from the Indiana RMA repair place.

They accepted the package around the 5th but posted it being received on the 8th. Since then it's progress has only changed to repairing and stayed there with 0% progress on the repair.

I'm getting impatient but nothing I can do. Just shocked that anyone got their notebook sooner.

 

Ah I see, thanks that helps alot, n not a bad price for that.

Let us know how it went once ya get around to it! =D

Also I want to say thanks to everyone in this thread who's been giving input, helped me work up the courage to give it a shot myself lol

Just gonna try to find some ocz freeze off the net then give it the ol' do it yourself (and hopefully not explode it lol)

It's nice to see everyone doing it themself though and helping others out =D

Again many thanks!

 

Have an ASUS G73JH

Runs to 110C then shuts off. Same as most people report here.

3 solutions IMHO

1. No modification. Enable to battery usage all the time in Powerplay options in CCC , this will down tune 5870 to 300mhz and reduce heat and performance. Easy but unsatisfactory solution for a performance laptop.

2. Use a fan across the back of the laptop, this reduces temperatures significantly, but obviously annoying to do, also you can use a laptop cooler though the one I tried was pretty useless.

3. Rang ASUS service. They report normal operating temps of 5870 are to max of 95C, so mine is too hot! Thermal paste applied to GPU(preferably arctic silver) does not void warranty according to service tech. How to open laptop is described elsewhere on Youtube. Applying paste is a non service issue so you have to do it yourself or some friendly guru. IMHO and the techs this is probably best option . Annoying to have to open a new machine to do this but I can see no other way.


PS as for a utility to run the laptop fans more , I cannot find one.

PSS You can also use amd gpu clock tool to down tune your card.

PSSS ASUS should really fix this in bios with better fan control.

 

Are you talking 110C in Furmark? I wouldn't worry too much if that's the case. Furmark is designed to peak GPU utilization which is not a realistic scenario in games.

I would be surprised if every 5870 didn't hit 100C + in Furmark. My old 7800 Go GTX hit 100C+ and so does my G73. Most of the desktop GPUs I've run it on get up around 90C.

Furmark probably annoys these companies greatly. 3Dmark and games can't push temps anything like it can.

 

On my G73, GTA IV and Furmark generate the same temperatures. Before I applied thermal paste to mine, they both pushed it to 110C and shutdown within a minute. After applying the paste, they both max out at 94C.

 

What kind of stock thermal solution did you find on the GPU? Was it a foam pad, wax (any foil?), or a paste (what color)?

 

Gray paste on the GPU and pads on the memory chips and VRMs.

 

The problem with improving cooling by changing paste is that the paste these companies use is usually pretty good stuff. It may even be better than the popular fancy-named pastes that get "reviewed" by the usual sites. The difference between even the worst ultra-cheap silicone paste and the most amazing silver pastes is minimal. It if it had been a pad or wax then sure a big difference is more likely.

So I will have to call your results suspect and say that the measurements were likely influenced by other variables. Unless you noted some clearly improper application of the paste maybe.

 

It's not just the paste itself but also the application of the paste, which could have been done sloppily at the factory. If you look around this forum you will find a huge range of load temperatures for the G73, ranging from the low 80s to 110C/shutdown.

In this thread you will find several people including myself who have lowered their load temps by 10+ degrees by reapplying the paste. As I've said several times before, my GPU would overheat and shut down the computer within minutes of running a modern game. After I reapplied the paste, the temperature never goes above 94C. Same desk, same ambient temperature, same game.

 

Hey yuxi do you removed the pads and replaced the paste? or just replaced the thermal paste

 

I replaced the pads with paste also.

 

do i get better results if i apply a whole 3.5 g tube to it , or more less how many paste do i have to use for the GPU?

 

Definitely not a whole tube!

Here's roughly how much you need (keep in mind it will spread to cover the GPU when the heatsink is pressed down): ShaunChng.com | Gallery- SC_gpu_p_0012.jpg

 

No. You need to place thing layer of paste on your GPU. Look one page back. You can find links related to that(external review of TIMs and video "how to apply thermal paste properly")

 

I'm in the exact same situation, I have to lower the resolution and the graphics quality to prevent it from overheating

 

Hmmm, I've always wondered what will happen if someone squeeze tubes of non-conducting thermal pastes like ICD 7 till it fills up their whole GPU can, then close it with the heatsink. Super heat conduction or screwed GPU?

 

Sounds pretty much like a messy job

Theoretically it should conduct the heat across all the heatsink but on a minus factor is that the amount of paste would keep the heat stuck in, eventually overheating the whole thing (my guess..)

To add to topic:

I am owner of G73JH - TZ062V (A1 alike) and temps:
Battlefield 2 Bad Company, 1920x1080 res, Medium details, 3 hour constant gameplay resulted into:
CPU's 70-75 C Max
GPU 72-77 C Max
CPU Power usage: 55.4 W Max (thats a bit off than announced by Intel..)
Touch temperature: Lower left, Lower center, Lower right - Cold (actually cold)
Upper Right/Upper left - slighly warm, netbookish warm
Upper Center - BURNIN baby!

-Mel

 

Watch the video in my sig and see if replacing the thermal paste is something you want to do. It's totally worth the 2 hours of work for not only your experience (gaming at settings it's designed for) but also the long-term health of the machine.

 

I read about it and the conclusion is that you only need a very almost invisible thin layer, because all you want to do is cover the imperfections of the flat surface with this little particles contained within the paste.
Check this out. Thermal Paste and How To Use It
I'm still waiting to be in Germany to do the whole RMA procedure.
Its really lame to have such a powerful machine and not being able to game with it properly just because it overheats and shutdowns.

 

so i get better results using thermal paste in conjunction with thermal pads

 

as said by razor1952

1. No modification. Enable to battery usage all the time in Powerplay options in CCC , this will down tune 5870 to 300mhz and reduce heat and performance. Easy but unsatisfactory solution for a performance laptop.

did that and received respectable fps in dragonage along with 74C avg temp over 2 hours of gaming... could be used as a stopgap solution till the gpu thermal paste is applied...

 

Oh My GOD! This is freakin AMAZING! I just redid my paste, and guess what ... My temps dropped like rain from heaven.

First of all, the standard ''paste'' that was on my gpu was total crap, there was almost nothing between the gpu and the cooler, except for a tiny dot of paste here and there. Secondly, there was still a plastic around the gpu, which i found bizare. I took some pictures, but they are cellphone-taken, so the quality's poor.

It took me 3 hours though to completely open this monster, redo the paste, and close it up again. I personally went through hell, couse I didnt have the right tool, but i managed anyway. It gets very tricky at some parts, like when you flip over your motherboard, don't forget to put somethin between that and your screen, or you'll damage it.. Also, i made small papers and folded them into satchets, and put the screws in with every step. So that I knew exactly where they came from. What could be handy is a screwdriver with a magnetic head, so that you don't lose your screws in ur laptop all the time. But that's a standard item to have though, in whatever you screw .

I actually fixed my keyboard while removing it, couse my spacebar was a bit tight in it's box, and so when the keyboard was removed, I bended it( which is very easy to do, since its made of a flexible metal)

The frustrating thing I thought though was the fact that when you remove the bottom hatch, you can almost intirely see the gpu, but they made it just not big enough to unscrew it with just the bottom off... But those 3 damn hours surely payed off .

Here's one of my baby opened:
One of the cooling pad before I cleaned it:
And finally one of the GPU before and after ( the cleaning, forgot to take a pic of the final pasted GPU, but like everyone else said, its a thin layer, finished by smoothing it with a credit card):




So there you have it in a nutshell, if you guys have any questions, you know what to do .

Schockie

PS: for some reason I'm to tired to get the pics inhere correctly, so here are the links to them:
http://yfrog.com/0vfoto0240oj
http://yfrog.com/7gfoto0242jj
http://yfrog.com/0gfoto0244zj
http://yfrog.com/6ffoto0246wj

PS2: Forgot to mention i made some MW2 gameplay results, these temps are both after 20mins of intense MW2 gameplay (all MAX values), standard clock settings, bios 209, 10.6 catalyst.

Before:
TSS 0: 84.0 C
TSS 1: 98.5 C
TSS 2: 87.5 C

After the pasting:
TSS 0: 77.5 C
TSS 1: 83.0 C
TSS 2: 77.0 C

Hope this is convincing enough .
PS3, im not responsible if you fck up yours

 

Is this the plastic?: http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware/441455-scotch-tape-really-alienware-scotch-tape.html

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Asus G73JH-RBBX05
| 1600x900 AUO LED Screen | Mobility Radeon 5870 | i7-720qm
| Upgrade 8gb 1333mhz DDR3 | 500GB 7200rpm HD | Bios 206/10.6 CC Ati

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware/441455-scotch-tape-really-alienware-scotch-tape.html

Yup, thats the one

 

Ive just finished playin a half-hour session of Just Cause II, and where I before got 98C as a MAX temp, I know get 80C MAX. However, the ambient dropped 3 degrees, but that doesn't change much to the fact that this is still an amazing upgrade for the laptop. I strongly suggest that everyone that has a heating problem, that they redo their thermal paste. Or let it be done by an asus carecenter if you are to worried about doing it yourself .

 

Hmm, now I'm tempted to do mine

 

Did you remove from GPU

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Asus G73JH-RBBX05
| 1600x900 AUO LED Screen | Mobility Radeon 5870 | i7-720qm
| Upgrade 8gb 1333mhz DDR3 | 500GB 7200rpm HD | Bios 206/10.6 CC Ati

 

You shouldn't be tempted, you should'v ordered your paste on ebay!