Asus G73jh GPU temp?

I already have some Artic Silver 5

 

Yah, I removed it allright... Don't blaim me, blaim the voice inside my head..
Do you think it might hurt? Or would you say that the plastic was just a way for them to say they want the best for your gpu? kuch kuch

 

I wanne hear some thoughts from you guys, what keeps you from doing this ? What part of the youtube vid are you afraid of?

 

Ouch, just got owned...

 

I dunno, the idea of having that plastic there disturbs me.

 

Use Furmark for before/after tests. It will peg the GPU much more consistently than a game ever will. You won't get useful results by looking at games. The GPU temp will vary greatly depending on what the game is doing.

Also, do not replace the RAM pads with paste. Pads are used to fill gaps wider than paste is designed for. If the two surfaces aren't mating with pressure and there is a gap, paste my act as a thermal insulator or it may flow out. Not good. Usually the RAM chip contact with the heatsink does have a gap. They do this because it would be more difficult to make the heatsink with all of those contact points flush.

And yes when applying a paste you want only a very thin layer between the GPU core and the heatsink. Arctic Silver has instructions right on their site about how to apply to a bare die surface.

 

Yeah, it ain't that accurate, couse the mesurement before i redid the paste was with a lower res, and the extreme burn mode off.
But I think its quite obvious that it improved a huge amount.
Before: Yfrog Image : yfrog.com/f1naamloosdfp
After: Yfrog Image : yfrog.com/i3furmarkafterpastep

 

removing thermal pads was bad idea. All manufactures are placing them there for some reason. The thing is, that we are unable to see temperature of memory. All 3 sensors Core, MemIO and Shader are placed on GPU itself. So, you have to hope that contact of vRAM modules with heat sink is enough. Good luck.

 

How can there be such a wide span of temperatures here? They are everything from 65-110 C on the GPU at load. I understand that the people with problem are the most vocal ones on the forum, but this looks like Asus flushed down their QA down the toilet.

 

In that video they don't take off the entire motherboard, did you do that or did you leave it attached and put the paste one that way? in the breakdown guide that asus provides they show you how to take the motherboard off the assembly but heard that you can break the fan wire clips if you do it that way?

 

I did mine with the motherboard propped up (still attached on the screen side) like in the video.

 

The thing is, that some one posting his maximum sensor and someone post his GPU core temperature. For sure, max sensor is MemIO sensor which is usually for 10-15C higher from GPU core under heavy load. Again, it is wrong to say that Asus "flushed down their QA down the toilet". As it was stated G73 have only 3%-4% of RMA. That numbers are saying, that Asus still have good QC.

 

Hey schockie, BTW what was your ambient temp when you got this readings?
As the proof that, stock thermal paste and branded have tiny difference
My temps after 10 loops of Crysis warhead benchmarking at enthusiast preset about 30 min of testing
TSS 0 78.5C
TSS 1 84.5C
TSS 2 82.0C
Ambient 22C

 

Furmark with 940XM:

 

Hey I'm new here.

My G73jh gets about 66c when browsing with firefox and about 80c when playing L4D2 and 84 when playing GMOD.

Is this normal?

 

Your load temps are ok. If you want lower idle(i.e browsing). Just select maximize battery life in PowerPlay when plugged. That lower your temps for 5-6C.

 

Wow, Thanks.

It did drop about 5c.

Is 90c fine when playing Crysis?

 

on what sensor? If it's TSS0 it's ok. That one corresponds to MemIO(memory controller). That one is always hotter.

 

Yeah it's on TSS0. So I have nothing to worry about?

 

It's the TSS1 that runs the hottest, couse this is your MemIO, if your TSS0 runs 90, that's on the hot side, but tell us what TSS1 you hit under load.

 

Yup, I did it exactly as done in the video, couse that would be the easiest way. Just make sure that you put a cloth on your display before flipping your motherboard over, that you don't dammage your display. If you would do so, there's a guide of how to replace it though .

 

Its not that Asus used bad paste, its that Asus applied the paste badly.
Like you can see on my previous post, i added some pics of how the paste was devided on the gpu, and you could tell instantly that it was done badly.
Thats the reason of overheating.
As for my ambient temps, the furmark before my repasting was about 29C, the one after about 26C.
And now, Im a happy guy, couse my battlestation is now fully armed and operational!

 

Wait wait wait.

I read it wrong. I was using TSS1 before.

I switched it over to TSS0 and now the temp is around 55c. :S

 

Than your machine's also battle-proof

 

@schockie My bad TSS1 is MemIO. Glad for you man! You have cool and fully functional G73JH beast
@Amitosh 90 is a little bit hot. again it's depend on your ambient. If it's below 27C, then note book cooler can help. Or as an option you can change thermal paste.

 

That's a relief.

I was gonna buy a cooler soon.

 

Ah, a little bit late with the post. Glad for you Amitosh. Enjoy your machine.

 

Thanks man.

Now I can play games without worrying about this blowing up.

You should see my brother HP G60.

Just browsing the web that thing hits the 70s!

 

Just did another run of Just Cause 2; OC'd to 800x1200, 10.6 catalyst, 209 bios, ambient 27C, zalman nc-2000 laptop cooler (takes off +-5C off under load), and where I used to get 98C, I know get around 86C max for my MemIO. Forgot to turn on my amd gpu clock tool, sry

 

Below my idle temperatures, when on 800/1000, i get 95c max on GPU, BC2 all high, 4xAA etc... 10.6 catalysts 209 bios

 

Because we have a huge variety of testing methods, measurement methods, different ambient temps, etc. I don't think there is been a post that I would call reliable yet. People are having a difficult time understanding the variables involved here.

Also, changing paste simply will not bring big changes in temp. Pastes don't vary much. Unless the paste was applied really poorly, the temp difference can only amount to a few degrees between the worst and best pastes.

Read this and remake your paste beliefs.
http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm

 

As I said in my reply to your earlier post, the problem is poor application of paste at the factory, not the paste itself. For my G73, applying new paste meant the difference between shutting down less a minute into a game (at 110C) and maxing out at 94C with the same game and same room temperature.

 

ok I just got the scare of my life. After taking apart and applying thermal paste to the cpu/gpu, I put it back together, plugged it in then hit the power button and... nothing... no lights, no sounds just blank. I took it apart twice after that trying to find what I did wrong and each time nothing, even after sticking a paper clip to hit the reset button.

Come to find out one of the wires to the wireless card was crossing over the reset button and keeping it pressed down. Holy crap, I thought I just created a $2k paperweight. All is fine now, after 3 times assembling and disassembling this thing...breaking a couple of clips along the way all for nothing. It now works 100%.

My temps are now 3-5 degrees cooler which isn't much but better than before since I hit 107+ in furmark 3 minutes in. Now it takes 6 mins to hit 100 max which isn't a whole lot better but at least it's not coming dangerously close to shutdown. my ambient is 78F though so that might play a factor.

 

Hi

Yesterday I was playing RE5 and after 45min playing the laptop shutdown and I couldnt restart it after 5min. I been doing some temps test and Im getting 90c readings. Is there a max temp when the system shutdown?, how can I fix it?

 

here are my temps when doing a stability test:

they grow to 110 in a matter of seconds
and here they are after like 5 seconds

it seems that Asus indeed has a good cooling system, but it seems that the paste is not well applied, cause only the memIO temps go that high, the other are pretty stable

edit:
here are my idle temps

 

I don't think they applied the paste wrong, I think they just forgot to apply it at all ! If I had those temps, I would redo my paste instantly, or I would lose my baby!. Well maybe not that dramaticly, but looking at other idle temps (normally between 60C-70C), and the fact you dont live on the sun, well, draw your conclusions .

 

For some reason rorage is procrastinating in having his GPU TIM redone. He doesn't feel confident doing it himself, nor will he seek out a local professional and have them do it. Instead, he just posts about how it's all the TIM's fault.

One of these days he's going to have to have it done.

(Sorry for the intervention, but DO IT ALREADY!!)

 

I will do it when I get back home (in about a month)
the strange thing is it overheat for the first time this summer, I had it for a month and didn;t have those problems, should have done a stability test back than
also it;s confident not confidant

 

I have about .5C cooler than rorage in each temp, so my temps are practically as bad. Are these dangerous temps? I haven't had any games crash or anything, seems to work fine so far.

I haven't looked in to diy pasting on laptops before; does that void the warranty?

I don't really feel like sending it back after all of the fine tuning and software loading I've done on it already...

 

Oh well, i get that you wanne postpone ur repasting untill your ready for it. Its like marriage, or your first car.. I wouldn't wait for to long though, everytime your gpu reaches 110C, it wears down faster... (so does the love from your girlfriend if you wait to long ) Anyways, good luck, and let us hear how it goes .

 

They arent dangerous for your laptop, but they are not good either. Those temps arent normal for the laptop, and it will react like it. The vents will run faster, and the laptop will wear down faster than it was ment to be.

The pasting of the GPU doesn't void the warranty, there's only a small sticker on the CPU, so if you think about redoing the paste on the CPU, that will void the warranty.

If you feel upto doing the pasting yourself, you need:
-this vid: YouTube - Asus G73Jh Disassembly Take Apart G73 Replace Video Card G73 service manual
-some cloth to put on your screen when you flip over your motherboard;
-some alcohol to remove your previous paste (if there was any lol);
-some cotton sticks (those to clean out your ears, don't know how they are called in english lol)
-a plastic bag to spread out the thermal paste on your GPU;
-a credit card to flatten the spreaded paste;
-the thermal paste ofcourse. (i only needed like about 0.5 gram, even less)
-A DECENT SCREWDRIVER ( which I didnt have, I used one from my pocketknife)
-Huge amount of guts if you wanne open up your sweetypie...

PS: I am not responsible if you fck up your laptop

 

actually it's not recommended to spread it.

 

I am on a vacation so I don't have access to anything

 

Well, everyone has its own oppinion about things; This is how I did it, and if i were to do it again, I would do the same thing, seeing the result it gave me .

 

high temps are the number 1 cause of hardware failure, from the cpu, to the gpu, to the ram, to the harddrive... basically everything in your laptop has to be cool. I would've got an asus if it werent for the poor ventilation. I would open up your machines, buy some ocz freeze and reapply it to your cpu and gpu, and get some quality thermal pads as well form frozencpu. As was already mentioned putting the laptop on something so its raised off the desk help abit, but you can buy this very good an affordable coolign pad from targus. I use this for my girlfriend's macbookpro. Its lightweight, with twin usb fans. works like a charm. here's the link

http://reviews.cnet.com/cooling/tar...-9990_7-33772538.html?tag=contentBody;compare

i can't imagine my alienware M15x to reach over 100C

I have an oc'd 5870m in it (flashed to 850/1100 stock clocks) and when it reaches 78C during Crysis i find it HOT. Idles at 43-44

 

I redid mine and it helped temps quite a bit, doesnt shut down anymore either, but I do want to say one thing.......THERE ARE GAMES THAT WILL PUSH YOUR 5870 AS HARD AS FURMARK! The new Aliens Vs Predator is one.

 

Good to hear!

And yes, I get the same temperatures with GTA IV and Furmark.

 

So my G73Jh is running around 95-96 degrees C for the TSS1 while playing CoD MW2 for around an hour. I don't see myself buying another laptop for a good while so its imperative that this unit lasts as long as possible, so I am planning on replacing the thermal paste. I looked at the disassembling video, and when you apply the thermal paste do you do anything with the existing thermal paste? Like remove it or do you just apply over it. And does anybody have any pointers? Sorry if these are silly questions as I have never disassembled a laptop before.

 

Yes you must definately clean the old paste off completely! lol

you can buy artic cleaner, but you can use rubbing alcohol (anything over 70%) as its essentially the same thing. Use a cloth that won't leave lint behind like those makeup remover pads your wife/gf/mom uses lol..

Best technqiue is to put a nice grain of rice size dot in the middle of the die, and using a rubber glove (or yoru finger in a plastic ziplock bag will do also) slowly push the paste outwards towards the edges, making sure the entire surface is covered with a thin layer. no need putting alot, as this does not help temps, and will make a mess when the heatsink is pressed on.

I'd recommend OCZ freeze, as its super cheap, and performs the best. Shin Etsu, mx-3, ic diamond are also all top contenders that require no curing time to get max performance.

 

Yes, that temps in idle is BAD!! It might seem to work fine but if you get temps like that, something will go wrong sooner or later.

DIY paste changing is not so hard. An earlier post by schockie already gave the link to a disassembly video. Watch that and take a leap of faith IMO. You will be fine as long as you take care while doing it.

PS: IC diamond, Arctic Silver 5, OCZ freeze are all good. Choose any one you want and you wont go wrong.!!