Asus G750 Officially Announced

Ok...

1) Personal preference.

2) All laptop speakers suck. You either need headphones or some external speakers if you appreciate good audio.

3) And that's a plus?!

4) So what. The less I need to think about and control basic laptop functions like cooling the better.

5) RAID means jack in a desktop/laptop real world environment. The G750JH also has 2 x mSATA.

6) No. Aluminium on whole keyboard/palmrest surface, not just palm rest.

7) Which has proven so many times to be absolutely pointless as specs/requirements change between generations and BIOS updates are not provided.

8) So get the CPU you want to start with.

9) What about colour gamut, viewing angles, screen coating etc etc.

The MSI is 90% marketing fluff. Nice try Cloud.

I'm by no means an ASUS fanboy but this thread was full of MSI fanboys a few weeks ago spouting all sorts of BS.

The G750 is a lovely machine and I felt it needed some well justified vocal support.

 

How is this a personal reference? Mechanical keyboard is a plus no matter how you look at it. Customizable colours on the keyboard too. Asus is the only OEM that doesn`t offer that.

No, I have owned G74 and GT70 and the GT70 is miles ahead. You can turn the volume up pretty high and the sound is still very good on the GT70.

No that is a con for MSI and a plus for Asus. I wrote that further down in the post if you read it.

All OEMs tend to put too high RPM on the fans on idle/IGP usage. My GT70 was SILENT when I lowered the fan speed. You can`t do that with Asus because they lock the firmware.

Again, no. Try a single SSD vs a Raid system on loading a big map in a game. Or transferring files. Or working on files that are several GB in professional software.

But not the lid like GT70 have. I see some people on this board called MSI "Plastic fantastic". If GT70 is that, then there exist no words for how much plastic the G750 is.

Are you kidding me? Are you really this uniformed? What about the old Alienware M15x using GTX 780M? What about the GT70 that had GTX 580M but runs GTX 680M or GTX 780M? Asus screw you guys over buy blocking upgrades because they use weird MXM form factors and have white list in their BIOS. Alienware and MSI doesn`t. Clevo have on some of their models, but we have skilled modders in this forum that make new BIOS that allow newer GPUs.

What if you later want more power? What if the CPU is too weak to support GPU overclock?

The G750 screen is pretty much worse than GT70 in about everything. Viewing angles on the G750 are crap compared to GT70.
Go compare yourself Review MSI GT70H-80M4811B Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews
Preview Asus G750JX Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

When you actually consider facts, the MSI GT70 is way better machine than the G750.

 

My next laptop baby!!!! waiting for the 780M model... Still using my MSI GT780DXR. the keyboard on this still drives me nuts! I love ASUS keyboards and the BIG touch pad. This is going to be sweet! Anyone know when specifically, we can have these machines with 780M in it?

 

1 ) lol, marketing gimmicks

2) Does matter, but not very crucial(MSI wins)

3) ASUS wins

4) Asus has dual fans so fan speed does not matter, MSI needs changeable fans since 1 fan is doing a lot of work

5) G750JH has msata HDD, really is overkill. If the laptop has a SSD then the bottleneck is the FSB(Bus) not HDD

6) Personal choice, who cares, fine MSI wins

7-8) Instead of upgrading just CPU and GPU 2-3 years down the line get a new PC with newer everything

9) Brightness is not everything buddy

My point, ASUS has better build quality and if you want to add ram in GT70 you have remove the heat sink which voids warranty lol

"But its sort of a moot point since GT70 is more than capable of cooling the hardware without creating too much noise or damaging the hardware inside."


Funny I heard that the MSI fan blows like a lawnmower at max speed

 

Not being a fan of either brand at the moment but rather a potential customer for both, I feel I should point out why I am leaning toward the G750 rather than the GT60/70.
-The msi's keyboard has customizable backlight and that is indeed a plus design wise, but then the layout is rather more cluttered and the keys are surrounded by glossy plastic, which will be a scratch and dirt magnet.
-I MUCH prefer the full metal keyboard+palmrest plate because that's what I'll be looking at 90% of the time, not the lid, which looks okay thanks to a lack of glossy plastic. (I never got a G75 because I thought the rubber palmrests would get ruined with use)
-the JH models which will compete with the gt70 do have msata slots. It's a big pity the msi doesn't have space for two sata slots, on the other hand. asus is just as guilty for not putting at least one msata slot on the jw and jx though.
-In italy we get the 3D screen as standard, which should be plenty bright and with good contrast.
-the single fan solution sounded, I'll be frank, stupid from the first time I heard about it. And I mean deal-breakingly stupid. There wouldn't be a need for manual fan controls if the cooling system could keep the heat in check without a turbine mode button. And the temperatures I've seen posted on the msi owner lounge are downright ludicrous. I want to game in relative peace and quiet. In fact, I'd be more interested in a button that turns the fans OFF, like the samsung gamer has.
-this is only my subjective opinion, but the gt70’s chassis looks downright old, and several design choices like the gap between screen and body when closed, the drawing around the webcam and the branding on the keyboard and speakers make it look less refined than all other brands out there, not just asus. except that hideous clevo with the glowy decal on the touchpad. I mean jesus christ what the hell.

 

1) How is it a plus no matter what. I have mechanical on my Clevo and I actually prefer chiclet. Oooooh pwetty customisable colours. What are you, 12?

2) You can turn it up high? Fantastic. Audio quality still sucks out of such a tiny speaker.

3) Ok then at least we agree on something.

4) The G73 upwards are all silent at idle plus you don't have to fiddle with any manual controls. Win win for the ASUS.

5) Lol Cloud you are now spouting BS. Real world difference will be unnoticeable unless you are working with humongous sequential files. How many gamers do that. Very very few.

6) The MSI just looks cheap compared to the G series IMO.

7) Ok so yeah there are a few machines where upgradable MXM has worked out. However in most cases it's advantageous and sometimes just as cost effective to sell your machine and buy new.

8) Unlikely to happen these days.

9) The screens are not crap at all. Plus the 120Hz screen in the G series is fantastic.

Are you on the MSI pay roll?? j/k

 

I'm not an ASUS fan, but some of your points are ridiculous.

1. Nice. Do you believe that Steelseries actually makes MSI keyboards too? They are as generic as any other keyboard. In any case, a decent desktop keyboard will trounce both.
2. Certainly, because you have listened to all of the laptop speakers in existence.
4. Fair point. ASUS needs to add more customization.
5. Irrelevant. SATA RAID is not worse than mSATA RAID. If the ASUS has two mSATA slots and two SATA slots, then the MSI does have the advantage, but it's not important.
6. Thinkpads have plastic exteriors. Is the MSI better-built than a Thinkpad W530? The old m17x r4 is made of plastic too, and I have never seen anyone say that the MSI has better build quality. Same with the ASUS G75.
7 and 8. Fair points.
9. The ASUS screen isn't especially good, but the MSI Chimei's grainy coating puts it in the same "boat."

They are well-matched: the ASUS has better build quality, cooling, and looks, and the MSI is better for tweakers and those who want as much performance as possible.

 

Nah I don`t have time to reply to all the rage that came when I called you guys out.
For screen quality and Audio quality, go read the reviews I linked to above. Upgrade options are pretty well known on this forum for those who have been around for quite some time.

The MSI hate here was ridiculous considering it trumps Asus in so many areas. :hi2:

Have a nice day

 

Haha the troll got trolled!

 

All of these are value judgements. The best way to find the laptop for you is to write down all 'deal breakers', then buy the system that fits your list as close as possible. For myself, system noise is a deal breaker. I would gladly trade bad speakers, somewhat weaker performance, and aesthetics for a very quiet system (which is why I'm currently using a G53). However, someone else might simply want maximum speed, or quality of the screen, over all other features. We could argue till we're blue in the face about which system is the 'best', but really all that matters is which system is the best for you.

 

ROFL Number One MSI Troll have arrived)))) Did they ban you on Anandtech yet? So you found another place where you can discharge yer useless fancy plastic propaganda ? The only fanboy here is u, cloudf....

 

As for noise from notebooks, MSI beats both Alienware and Clevo with their newest GT70. Not sure about how it will go against the newest Alienware models though




@preatorianx: Right so you have nothing to counter my arguments with, so instead you just jump out and start calling people fanboy? Ok
And incase you didn`t know, I got Jarred to double check the GT70 review they did and see if it truly was a paste malfunction

 

Your right in your points completely. But I do like Asus's design, always have since my G73. However this time going to try MSI. Will be a first time for me. And hopefully a good time? I suggest people try to look at the facts rather than the brand here. I'm no fanboy atleast not a loyal one . I have had acer's, asus's, dells and gateways. Whatever offers the best at the time is what I go for.

Back on subject, any new reviews out yet on the G750JW/JX? The G750JH is still all hush hush. Maybe till next month now?

 

"Completely" agreeing with all of his points is as idiotic as disagreeing with all of them. Neither laptop has the clear advantage, because ASUS fails to realize that customization is important in a gaming laptop, and MSI fails to realize that design is important.

 

Maybe, kinda off topic, but maybe not, but you re-ignited this fanboy war.
I really don't like when people start comparing apples and oranges.

 

The guys at the MSI subforum are happy with theirs. I was too about my GT70 before I sold it to prepare for my next notebook. The keyboard is just stellar, that feeling you get when using a mechanical keyboard is just awesome.
Design wise its not bad. I`ve seen better looking notebooks, like the newest Alienware`s (which I love), but you grow to like the GT70 design too after a while
Noise wise the older GT70 series I had was noisier than the newest, but even though the decibel numbers are higher, its a soothing sound because MSI use a really big fan which have this WHOOOSH sound instead of the WHIIIIINE sound you find in most other brands. So considering MSI lowered the noise even more now, I think you will be pretty happy about it.

Here`s hoping MSI will include dual fan with their Maxwell notebooks too. Its the only way to go if you ask me.

 

Went down to my local store to test out this beast, gotta say the speakers has got average amount of bass (for a tiny speaker) with loud and clear mids and high with a pretty decent maximum volume level. Palm rest was extremely cool to the touch and the texture felt great. Touchpad is smooth and the 2 clickpads were above average. here's some snapshot (JX Model)

Didn't buy because i didn't really like the shop's service. Guess I'll be buying this bad boy from another store next week.
By the way i noticed the G750JX's felt lighter than the G75VX

 

Where did you find JX with 8GB of RAM? And how much was it? Thanks

 

Only posting this after reading some unnecessary MSI bashing.

MSI does not void warranty if you break the seal. If you don't believe me give MSI tech support a call yourself..

MXM upgrading in laptops doesn't work for MSI? Explain to me how I was able to upgrade my MSI GX660 from stock 5870m --> 6990m -->7970m? Which by the way with its 920XM (yes I was able to upgrade that too) was able to beat the non JH G750. Oh and it was all plug and play, no need to modify drivers or mess with any fan controls.

I had an Asus G51, so I have owned a "G" series laptop. The speakers were terrible! Until you've actually heard the MSI Dynaudio speakers you can't knock them. They are great, and YES it does make the laptop that much better. I can move it from room to room and blast music and it sounds great. Or put my laptop next to me in my bed and watch a movie without headphones.

Also look at the size differences of my GT60 vs a G750? I don't have 2 inch exhuast ports coming out the back of my laptop. Is that even considered a laptop anymore? Looks like a spaceship. What was it that someone said a few posts back about the multicolored keyboard.. Are you 12? How many hours of battery life does the G750 get again? I'm getting around 5 hours right now. Win for MSI... again.

Also I already upgraded my CPU to a 4900MQ... because I CAN. Have fun with the locked down Asus system though.

 

I like tha way schoolboys trying to troll here.
When u'll become older, u'll realize 1 fact: when people aren't satisfied with things they have, when they are trying to compare smth and search what is better, what is not compared to there "things" - that means their product SUCKS. That's fact, it was prov. with years and practice.

I was thinking what to buy really - gt70 (but msi design sucks compared allmost to all g-notebooks / bUT - change gpu/cpu is rly good, BUT again - in 4-5 years u can sell and buy new notebook also) or g750, but know, THANKS CLOUD, i know for sure i'll buy g750, cause gt70 sucks so much, that it's owners aren't pleasured with having it and only thing they can do is posting in NON-gt70 theme different things, that aren't interesting here. Cause people on their own, who are buying products in such value categorie, as minimum know all they need about their product and alternative.

Thanks again!
(ps - english isn't my 1st or 2nd language, so sry for mistakes, also if u see them - i'll be glad if u write it correctly))

 

Moving on, ignoring the msi fanboys looking to start fanboy wars...

Thanks for the shots, the windows rating is nice. Only that hard disk rating is bad. But we knew that being non SSD. Was it slim in person? (for a 17")

 

I bet Asus engineers have a huge grin on their face when they hear the arguments posted here as counter arguments;
"Upgrade the GPU? Big deal. You can just buy a new notebook"
Asus biggest dream to have people thinking this way. They force people to buy new notebooks because they make GPUs on MXM cards that does not follow the normal MXM form factor. So you can't buy any new GPUs for it.

Oh well, atleast we have real OEMs lile Delll, Clevo and MSI that offer choice for the user, wether they just spend 600 on a GPU or $2500 for a new notebook.

And you are full of lies. According to the people here MSI notebooks are plastic fantastic that just falls apart. So they don't believe your notebook survived all those years from 5870M to 7970M. You are also lucky because just a very few notebooks allow GPU upgrades. lol its like they live in a different world than us.

 

Check your mail cloud, MSI check is due.

 

Why do you assume Im supported or work for MSI? I just chimed in to offer a different opinion, as a counter weight agains the unanymous bashing that went on here for quite some time now.

I can't decide what people use their money on. Its your choice. If you prefer Asus, by all means, buy it, enjoy it. Their notebooks are good. There is nothing to argue against there.
I actually had my eye on the Asus G750JH myself but I think I will buy Alienware 17 or 18 this time instead since I love their design. Asus will offer some Leap Motion on some selected G750JH SKUs according to their latest video, and I had to google it up since I didnt know what it was, but damn, it looks amazing. So that is something to look forward to

Sorry for derailing the thread. Please continue the G750 discussion

 

At least do it in proper threads/forums. I have had a fairly bad experience with MSI Haswell GE60 and you don't see me bashing MSI in Asus threads.

 

Problem is when u buy hardware (4700+ 780m) that is suppose to be 30 % faster that old generation q3630 +gtx 680m and is slower because of overheating .msi got one 1 single heatsink with one fan to both gpu and cpu.dunno why people should upgrade if the end u get 0 more performance in some cases slower. Waiting for some asus g750jh review them i choose what i am gona buy.

 

That GT70 review on Anandtech was faulty as hell. They recieved a notebook with a horrible paste job. Look up my post on last page and read the Notebookcheck review. They had no throttling on CPU or GPU and the temperatures was pretty good.

Well please don't compare GT series with GE series. The cooling on GT series is much better, more heatsinks, two fan grills where the heat is blasted out, more holes underneath, more room for the heat because its a bigger notebook and it use a different firmware.

 

On notebookreview one of the cons listed for the MSI is CPU throttling if I'm not mistaken. And the temps that people get are too high. The ones with tge proper paste. I'm not trying to bash the MSI, I'm still considering it, but I just can't get myself to like its design. Both machines have some flaws, and its okay to discuss them, the namecalling is taking it a bit far though.

 

The reaction you received is because you exercised bad manners. You came into a thread for people excited about a product, started the conversation in a tone which offended, and stated absolutes which aren't true.

Not the best way to start a conversation. Everyone who's posted here, even the constructive people, will think you're referring to them since you list -all- the Asus fanboys. This immediately made me feel defensive, and didn't help your arguments. Next time, try not to lead with an insult.

Here you assigned absolutes to some items which are subjective. Considering the G750JH hasn't been released or reviewed, the MSI vs Asus debate can't even be started with that model.

A number of members in this thread written posts about switching to the MSI and there wasn't a single negative response to them. Disagreeing, offering debate, and posting alternatives is never a problem as long as it's done in a mature way.

 

wow you have a lot of money it looks like, how much did you spend on that beast ??

 

Wow, was away a couple days from this thread and apparently missed a thing or two ha...

I'm a big Asus fan, was one of the first to disassemble and upgrade my G46 back in Dec/Jan, and have had several Asus machines before that one, my previous favorite being my G73JH. So, very familiar with Asus design, etc, and particularly with their new style chassis, as from all I can tell the new G750 is a bigger version of the G46. It's a great design, looks nice, is very solid and built well. It's a pain in the rear to work on, but manageable if you are willing to roll up your sleeves and take your time.

Having said all that, I was itching for some 780m fun since I skipped the 680m and haven't had a high end top of the line GPU since the ATI 5780m was new. So, obvious choice was the G750. I'm a plane nerd as well as a computer nerd so naturally I LOVE their design styling :thumbsup: Plus, the cooling is second to none from my experience, which I loved about the G46/G73.... my old Asus G51 was the hottest machine I've ever owned to date, so glad to see they improved things regarding temps.

Having said all that, I ended up buying a MSI GT60 after researching for a few weeks going back and forth... the 780m is flat awesome, you guys are in for a treat that are waiting for your JH's to show up. I've never had a machine that will break 8300 3Dmark11 without any effort or breaking a sweat. I have never owned an MSI before, and anything but a fanboy. But, my issues with the G750 were lack of upgrade options, as I've upgraded CPU's in almost every laptop I've owned at some point, as I enjoy tinkering. Lack of Optimus, which I know a lot of you don't want or care about, but for a laptop I use on the go I've grown to love with my G46 and was a must in my next machine. Sealed design not designed to be user accessible... it's doable of course which I've done multiple times, but basic maintenance shouldn't be so difficult. And finally, price with how Asus has chosen to configure the SKU's.

MSI GT60 quick thoughts: I can say first hand speakers are shockingly good, I underestimated the possibility of really nice sound quality. The steelseries keyboard is really good, but despite what others say, I can't tell much of a difference from my G46 which has a nice keyboard as well. The MSI touchpad is too small, but does work well; unfortunately it only has one rocker button, the GT70 has two buttons like my G46 and the G750. Design is nowhere near as sleek as the G750, but is in fact solidly built and is very easy to work on and access to everything is worlds easier than the Asus. For a tinkerer that likes to mess with the insides, this was a plus. And finally, the turbo fan option, ie hair dryer ha... it is in fact an option and not required, and I don't know what was wrong with the Anandtech machine, but in reality the MSI's do not throttle under normal stock conditions. It does run hotter than I'd like at normal fan settings, but is also quiet. I'd rather have a bit more noise and a bit lower temps, but maybe the next guy would rather it be quiet as possible. With turbo fan on, however, temps barely break 70C under extended full load... so cooling is more than capable, it just would ideally be at a fan speed that's a compromise than what we have now.

Well, don't want to be negative to either machine, they are just totally different designs... Hate to bring in the beaten to death car analogy ha but the G750 is like a new modern sports car, not made for home mechanics and a much sleeker design. The MSI GT's are boxier muscle cars that are easy to work on and powerful, but make noise OR run hot! I can't see anybody that honestly gives either series a fair shot being disappointed if they know what they are ultimately wanting before they order. Sorry for the novel!

 

any idea why G750 is delayed ?

I wanted to buy the JH model with 780m because 770m is just a rebranded of a 675mx

 

675mx is allmost gtx700 series

So u should better look tests. 770m is near 680m, which was top that year, but now it costs 350$ less, then 780. 780 is as faster, then 680, as 770 with it's analog (770 or 775 mx u can see in fut. probably)

It's only a question of $ u are going to spend. JX - 1550$+ .. JH - 2100$+ .. as for me it's too much, cause in 2+ years ll allmost see no difference between them. Both will be your super notebooks for 5-10 years and if u'll want to play games even after school or whatever will it be _ u'll have u'r stable home place and will be able to but a tower-comp

 

Thanks for that very honest comparison. Its nice to see a recent Asus owner with a lot of knowledge of Asus machines makes a fair comparison. The last Asus I had was a G51, which other than being a hot box, wasn't at a a bad machine, and it didn't give me any other issues. Also it had a backlit keyboard which at the time was a very nice touch. I am looking forward to seeing you Asus owners posting unboxings of this new JH series with the 780m. I have my websites bookmarked and check for daily updates on their stocks of the new JH series.

 

I've heard some people having problem with the headphone output.
I haven't had my monster on hands yet, so I don't know if all the G750s have this problem.
Does anyone have the same issue?

 

I was at Singapore when i found this laptop Apparently the JX model is the only one available in this country.

Yes it looks as slim as some of the 15" notebooks at the shop, it even looks slimmer than the G75VX. Not to mention the removal of the rubber-like palm rest from it's predecessor gives it a less bulky look. The weight feels slightly lighter and was confirmed by the shop owner that it was indeed lighter than the G75. Also the illuminated lid looks gorgeous compared to G75's non-illuminated lid. Unfortunately i can only get the JX model in this country which comes with the slow 5400rpm.. guess i will have to make do with it as my storage drive and install an SSD to speed up this baby. Also, this laptop comes with the previous asus bagpack and mouse but may not be similar in other regions

 

I don't believe the G750JH was delayed, i think it is being tweaked and perfected before launch. (maybe they will integrate Leap Motion)

Its launching in August btw.

 

well, it seems the 750JX has started to become available at online shops where I'm at. I'll start calling them to confirm actual stock quantities tomorrow morning, so wish me luck at picking one that will process the order as quickly as humanly possible

 

I'm very much in the same boat. Had the G73, opened that up, one of first at the time and did my speaker mod and fixed the sound vibrations issue. Had the G53 too, also repasted that. Thanks for thoughts on the GT60 from an Asus owners perspective. I've just ordered the Gt60 myself so good to hear your views. If Asus made the G750 with a user accessible panel like the GT70 & GT60 they would have a real winner in my mind. Then people like us can later upgrade CPU's, repaste and clean the heat pipes with ease.

This was the major factor in my canceling my G750JX order and opting for the Gt60. Whos to say the next updated model won't have a servicable area where the heat pipes and CPU/GPU is visible. I'm still very keen to see the G750JH reviews in terms of its noise output and cooling. As well as how it benchmarks compared to the other 780M's.

 

Just to throw a wench in the whole Asus vs. MSI debate. Clevo anyone? I'm thinking of a p157sm over a g750 right now.

 

Sager is too damn loud, even at idle.

 

I already had the P150SM with gtx780m at home. Sadly it lost the noise comparison against my hair-dryer while gaming... So i send it back.

 

Haha classic, I heard they were loud. But not THAT loud.

 

Review Asus G750JW Notebook - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

It seems that ASUS has lived up to expectations in all areas except for system noise. All eyes on Alienware.

 

I think you misread the system noise part.

 

I ordered an Alienware 18. Currently I am using a G75vw. I put a better screen in and SSD's and it is the best laptop I have ever had. I really like Asus and they get me as a customer with there clean designs and reliability but there doesn't seem to be too much of an upgrade for me with the G750. I stumbled on the new Alienware 18 with a PLS screen and more sensible design than I have seen in the past from them. It does look huge though. It will be my first Alienware and went with the entry configuration without adding anything from them. I certainly still would recommend an Asus gamer but friends should never let friends buy an MSI gamer. I would feel sorry for kids that works hard and save up to buy a MSI because they trick you into great specs and low price but the company that DESIGNS their machines to fall apart. Mine lasted 2 months.

 

I expected silence (=<30db) when idling and <=45db at full load. The noise is OK, but unless something is wrong with the review model, it does not live up to what I expected from ASUS. The 780m model might be even louder.

 

it's weird how the JX delivers about 25% better FPS than the JW on Bioshock infinite on High but on Ultra both deliver exactly 29 fps...cpu limits?

 

Then why are you disapointed?

"Idling or light loads (such as HD video streaming) result in near silent fans at a recorded 31 - 32 dB(A) while higher loads like gaming hover around 39 dB(A)"

 

Yeah "hovering" around 39 dB all the way up to 49 dB under heavy load, not impressed for a laptop with 765m, this doesn't bode well for JH model with 780m which will probably be a blow dryer FYI MSI GT70 is around 30-31.9 dB on idle and 41-46.8 dB under load and this is with the 780m .