Asus G750 Officially Announced

The GT70 might not be a fair comparison, because its GPU and CPU reach 90C and downclock, while the ASUS shows no sign of overheating. You have to use "Turbo Fan," which increases noise to well over 50db, to get good temperatures. It's also thicker than the ASUS.

Still, I hope that the G750's 780m SKU is not much louder.

 

Msi does a lousy paste job, I believe people on this forum have since proven they get nowhere near those temps when they re-applied thermal compound .
Thicker yes but it is also considerably lighter, anyways I am just comparing numbers, I have no bias towards either Msi or Asus (or any other gaming laptop manufacturer for that matter)
But you are comparing temps of a laptop with 765m to that of one with a 780m, so apples to oranges .

 

And muuuuch more uglier

 

The review is great. No real issues. Possible build quality issue on that hinge but apart from that 88% is very decent. Low noise and decent cooling. But as Benmaui points out, its only cooling a 765M so it will be interesting how the cooler and fan noise is on the hotter 780M.

 

I dont think this is the case. They record the 49 as the maximum they could record while stressing the system using non-real world tests. "Fortunately, most users will rarely ever experience this level of noise as this was reproduced under synthetic prime95 and FurMark loads that are unrepresentative of everyday use or even gaming." They also state "higher loads like gaming hover around 39 dB(A), or noticeably lower than the similarly sized Valkyrie CZ-17 and MSI GT70H. Very CPU intensive loads will slowly bump fan noise up to 46 dB(A)."

Those numbers are the same as listed for my current G53 laptop, and I can say its been the quietest computer I've very owned. If the G750 is similar, I'll be a very happy customer.

 

Actually the 46-47 dB for the GT70 seems to be the maximum under full load, so it is safe too assume they used the same exact method of "stressing the system using non-real world tests", otherwise it stays around 36 dB under load, and bumps up to 41-43 dB when running 3D mark 06, and this is with a 780m not a 765m so comparing the two laptops is pointless right now, aside for pointing out that the JW is quite loud for a laptop with that specific GPU, my wording might be a bit off, lets just say it is not as quiet as one could hope for considering what it is cooling, the 780m JH version is going to need better cooling/air extraction/ventilation which will undoubtedly make it louder, not to mention the added thickness/weight and most likely heat that will come with a 100+W gpu .

 

I think I misunderstood the point of your original post. No problems.

 

What is the noise level under the turbo button thing? just curious

 

I find it pretty awesome that the top of the line VX w/670mx cant even beat the base model JW in games!

Can't wait to get my JH! :thumbsup:

Also I would say the fans on the JH might be quieter, because bigger fans can run at less RPM while providing the same or better cooling.

 

Of all laptops I've owned, G750 is the quietest and does a fantastic job isolating heat from reaching you. This is coming from someone who cannot take on loud systems.
One of my major issues with MSI GE60 was the noise. I had to use a headset or play a movie on my media PC to overcome the loudness. At night, the noise from GE60 was unbearable.

FYI, the turbo button on MSI laptops pushes the fan to 100% all the time until you reboot or turn it off. That's all it does.

 

Anandtech's review says well over 50 dB, but I do not think that review was done very well, and their test model appears to have a very bad paste job or cooling issue of some sort, also the reviewer didn't seem like he was reviewing it professionally, but more like he was giving his own personal opinion (biased or not?)
Personally I have more trust in Notebookcheck's review even if they made no specific mention to the noise level under the turbo button thing, it might just be 46-47 dB, the only reference I saw was this in the temperature part of the test, "All measurements were performed with disabled Cooler Boost technology" .

As for GE series and the GT series, their cooling is not even comparable (aside that it is a one fan system) the GT series is in a completely different league .

 

First of all. You cannot compare different Reviews because every test may be done from a different distance. Huge difference if you take your sample from 5,10 or 15cm.

Second, talking about dB is quite confusing as every ~6dB the Sound level doubles.. So 46dB on msi is a huge difference to 39dB (more than 100% louder)

That is why ~30dB is almost silent and ~50dB is annoyingly loud.

 

Not sure if they are in a totally different league. They are in a somewhat different league though. That much I will agree.

Spec wise, they are the same. GE has MQ whereas G750 has HQ. But that's hardly a difference. And I am merely comparing systems I've owned instead of speculating things. Why do you think I ended up with G750 in the first place? It was because I felt that GE and G750 were comparable and they are.

The overall issue appear to be the generic setup for Intel CPU + 765m cooled by one fan exampled by Clevo, MSI and to a lesser extent Acer haswell model.

Logically speaking, cpu + 765m is about 130 TDP total during maximum stress give or take 5 TDP. Handing that much TDP with just one fan works but that lonely fan has got some works to do.

 

I am not sure if 6dB means 2x louder. I think it is 10 dB change is 2x louder and 6dB is 2x sound pressure. But thanks anyway

 

Yes it depends in which Range you are. Maybe you are right from 40 to 50 dB . Nevertheless 39 and 46dB is a huge difference

 

It's not double. db goes logarithmically louder so each step of increase gets louder and louder.

 

Exactly. 40 to 50 is a change of 10 db. Which is 100 Times louder.

 

But it doesn't seem 100 times louder to you.

 

Maybe Google will serve better.
Decibel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
SPL sound level to dB - pressure level sound pressure sound intensity unit dB conversion of sound units levels calculating spl sound level calculation air sound units level ratio decibel Pa kPa acoustic energy power convert decibels to pascals audio
Loudness volume doubling sound level change factor of perceived loudness formula calculate power level noise levels volume logarithm dependence three four fold loudness sound - by what factor does level decrease dependence comparison decibel levels 3

+10dB SPL increase leads to double the perceived loudness, it also means 10x the acoustic power.
+3dB SPL means 2x acoustic power, but not double the loudness. Our hearing follows a log scale.

And even so, one has to remember the Fletcher Munson curve, or its counterpart, the equal loudness contour. We are more sensitive to some freq spectrum than some other. So for the most part the dB figures does not really tell you about the sound quality of fans. One has to get the spectral decay curve plotted over time to really tell.

 

Man I have got to say feels like you people are not listening or reading me at all, the Msi is 46 dB at its loudest and the G750 is 49 dB at its loudest otherwise at idle they are about the same 30-31 dB (the Asus is slightly quieter by 1 dB), but under load for example playing a game the Msi hits 36 dB (not 46 dB as killian464 implied) and the Asus G750 hits 39 dB so it is actually louder than the Msi, gosh can't believe I had to explain that 3 times ...

Alucasa what I said was GE60/GE70 was not comparable to GT60/GT70, you're comparing an entertainment laptop to a gaming laptop, they WILL NOT have the same cooling, I mentioned the Asus nowhere .

The Asus is actually what should be compared to GT70 or at the very least it should be compared to a GE70 which is also a 17" but even then it is still an entertainment laptop, light and thin with barely any thermal headroom, unlike Msi's GT series and the G series from Asus which are beast's the Msi is a fatty and the Asus is as heavy as they get

 

I dont know on which test you refer with your 36dB. But the notebookcheck MSI GT70 Test is 41.3 dB under load and not 36dB. And the G750 is 39 dB under load.

Beside of the noise. I don't trust the one fan thing as a long term cooling solution.

 

Ya as if the MSI is quieter than the Asus. The MSI gamer I had had a 1 hit wonder fan and if they could have done it cheaper they would have. The Asus's I have and had have some research and development into how the cooling system works. Asus speeds up to what is needed far more smoothly than the MSI turn up the jets approach. Funny how they can take a truly garbage cooling system like MSI has and Micky Mouse the figures to where it can compete with something like Asus where cooling is what they do right. Anyway I am moving on to the Alienware 18 but still friends don't let friends buy MSI gamer they are DESIGNED to fall apart.

 

Yes you are right, I got hooked up on this sentence "It took a long time until the fan jumped from 36 dB to a very audible but not yet distracting 41-43 dB in 3DMark06" so ok it does appear to be louder, but remember the GT70 has a 780m inside and the G750 only has a 765m we will have to wait and see the JH model to be able to judge them fairly .
As for the post above I really cannot understand that sort of nonsense, yes you may have had a bad experience with Msi but people have had bad experiences with every other company out there, be it Asus, Clevo and even Alienware, people have also had great experiences with all of them, I just think it is silly to be close minded to one brand or another, fanboy-ism is beyond ridiculous, as each of these companies are constantly one upping the other .

 

No need to get mad bro. I paid a lot of money to figure out what MSI is about. Even the gamers they had the generation before mine where known as poor build quality and also the generation before that. Your the one on a Asus forum trying to change peoples minds on a substandard product. MSI has the worst cooling system I have ever seen on any gaming laptop and your silly for comparing it to what the Asus gamers have. They have not changed the case design since I bought my MSI and always have an open mind to see if their next generation will bring. I don't really think the 780m even sanely belongs in the recycled GT70 Swiss army knife case and you don't see other company's trying to push their luck like that. I don't get why all these MSI fanboys like to come to all the other forums to pump their trash up.

 

First off I was not mad, secondly I was not trying to change anyone's minds about anything, I was just comparing numbers, and last but not least I am not a fanboy I couldn't care less WHO made the better product, what interests me is the product itself, you sir are the one with the problem and getting wound up for nothing, saying fanboys coming here blablabla and are pumping trash etc... I don't even understand what you are doing here on these forums if you are not able to discus, compare and/or analyze information, that is what these forums are for, I am sure you can find elsewhere to whine, bro !

 

Oh yes. And that is, what we are all waiting for. Some presample or whatever test with the G750jh.. Asus should pull out the model now. I'm tired of waiting for it

 

Amen to that, I really want to see what Asus can pull out of their hat, I am also super glad they are getting back into highend gaming . ^^

 

I'm still waiting just for actual weight and thickness TT.......... waaaaa.

 

I think the ONLY ones who bothered to actually weigh the damn thing are gentechpc in their unboxing video, it came out about half a kilo lighter than asus claims...I really don't understand this.

 

That's funny because Asus used the same cooling solution in the G55

 

Okay, I decided to buy the 770 model with a 256GB SSD and 24 GB of RAM for 1900 euros. I'm sick of waiting for the 780m, and think that the 400 euro price difference is a lot, so I'll be able to upgrade my computer a year sooner. Besides, in 4 years time there won't be much of a difference between the 780 and 770. Besides, I'll be equally impressed with either GPU, since I'm coming off the 9700m in my G71. And the fact that it's thinner is also quite nice. But I'll still be keeping my eyes on the JH when it comes out, I'm still wondering what that will be like!

 

dude 1900 euros is a lot, unless you bought it in a shop where prices will naturally be higher...I just bought mine for 1430 (it has the 3D screen, but only 16 gb ram and no SSD, but I used some of the money I saved to get a 128gb samsung 840 pro)

 

I could get the base 770m model for 1650 euros with 8 GB of RAM and no SSD, but by buying those seperately, and with the shipping cost I came to about the same price. This is the only configuration that they offer in my country so far, and its just what I want. Where did you buy it from?

 

The insecurity about Asus falling too short compared to other brands is just breath taking in this thread

Notebookcheck tested a G750 with GTX 765M it made more noise than MSI GT70 with GTX 780M during stress test. GTX 765M is a 50W GPU. GTX 780M a 100W GPU. GTX 780M have twice as much cores as GTX 765M. True, the G750 had lower noise when gaming, 39dB vs 41-43dB, but wait until they test the G750 with GTX780M, then we can talk

 

I think the rules don't allow me to post the link directly, but I basically used a site that lists all italian online vendors for a specific product and picked the cheapest one that had good reviews...

this again? really?

 

Ye, 5 cm and 30 cm dist

Is your MSI sooooo bad u still can't enjoy it? Oh my .. pitty

 

I don't own any MSI computers. I will buy Alienware when they are available without delays

But try all you want to avoid the facts. I will keep on calling you guys out.

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sigh...you keep mentioning facts and the facts are that the JX (not the JW) is quieter while gaming (at it's loudest it makes as much noise as the GT70 at it's quietest on load) and an embarassing 10C cooler on the keyboard. Which is to be expected since the 780m pumps out so much heat so the GT70 is partially excused. I'm gonna go ahead and sleep soundly since per review it's quiet enough for me, and because system noise is only one parameter I considered. I'm not going to discuss build quality or reliability under high temperatures because doing that for two completely new laptops would be a waste of time for everyone

 

780M is almost twice as fast, so there will always be a difference.

 

hehe yes I'm not fooling myself, the 780m will probably be next-gen proof almost all the way to the end, the 770m...not so much.

 

Its already available at france for pre order or is mistake ? it says available in 15 june ...Model g750jh without sdd and 16 ram

ASUS gamer G750JH T4071H Noir - Achat/Vente ASUS gamer G750JH T4071H Noir - RueDuCommerce

 

Thx for sharing the link. It's interessting: no ssd? no wifi ac? But in marketing text they say something about nvidia optimus...this confuses me compared to what i heard so far about g750 series

 

Yeah I hate the fact that we only get the JX version in The Netherlands. I hope I can get a good price on the JH version when it comes out (and is actually the same quality as the version that is reviewed by Notebookcheck).

 

I think that on Rueducommerce it is actually a typo, because another French website Materiel.net had the same deal up 3-4 weeks ago and they have since corrected, JH became JX and 780m became 770m and the prices did not budge...

Yup definitely that same deal I saw a while back that I posted on this forum, there is no way you would get a 780m, a blu ray ripper, 16go of ram, 1,5to HDD at that price in Europe .

 

unfortunately there are still several online shops claiming to sell G750's with 3 GB "780m"s. However, those shops also show pictures of the G75VW just so you know they don't have a clue. Neiphx's shop on the other hand has pictures of what is very obviously the thicker JH...I dunno.

 

My country asus write on their facebook more some days and will have news at g750jh at portugal. Probably will be release at europe at same time. we need to wait :/. Some resellers said will be 2100 2200 euros at portugal dunno specs.

 

It's here!
Gotta say it looks thinner than the 5cm would make you believe. It has a GLOSSY 3D screen. More impressions later.

 

If they had stuck with standard components I would have been so tempted, but for others who would not open it up anyway, it looks like a really slick machine.

 

The only thing that bothers me is that inability to use OEM Nvidia drivers...

 

Way to go Flea0!

Glossy 3D screen FTW!