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    Asus G751 coming with Maxwell GTX 980M and GTX 970M

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Cloudfire, Sep 19, 2014.

  1. SoulMisaki

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    So I'd guess around $1,899 - $1,999, due to tax and VAT on the EU side of things.

    I may end up going for the 970m version, I was hoping that the G751JY-T7004H would be closer to $1,799 in NA - since it has a smaller SSD and a lower processor than the high end JY model...
     
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    I'd be really surprised if any model with the 980m doesn't break $2k USD
     
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    True - perhaps I was hoping for a bit too much. Seems I'll be going for the ASUS ROG G751JT-T7033H then. I don't mind the slimmer design though - so that's fine, and it's still much stronger than my current 2011 HP ENVY. I would be lying however if I didn't say I'd miss the red vents on the back - they're a nice touch.

    Quick question: How much more powerful is the 980M compared to the 970M? I don't mind having to get the 970M instead assuming it's not half the speed (or worse) of the 980M. Could anyone provide input on this?
     
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    Oh my.. I did wonder but never gave it any thought really, the speakers on the g751. Pause the video and it looks like it is a gap on the back bezel covering the exhaust. You could fit some good sized speakers beneath there.. Or they are inside the screen as the previous.. and the gap is just the air intake.

    Pause at 2:42


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    These unofficial benchmark scores may have been released early in September, so they might not be accurate, however they allow you to compared the GPU's to another in terms of their relative performance.

    [​IMG]

    Approximately 27% increase in performance for the 980M over the 970M. Considering the prices that initially appeared in the OP, the non-SSD G751JY was also more expensive than the non-SSD G751JT by roughly the same margin, but keep in mind it came with a better CPU too.

    As for the desktop scores:
    [​IMG]

    The strange thing here is the crazy contrast between the GTX 980 SLI and the GTX 980M SLI - 60% vs 98% performance boost respectively, which would make the 980M the most effective SLI setup EVER! Just doesn't seem legit.

    The term "gaming laptop" used to be an oxymoron. That's not the case anymore, but gaming on battery is still heavily comprosided. Except now we are in the next phase. I was shocked by the recent comparisons between Maxwell and Kepler, seeing just how much more performance the latter can provide when runnig on battery unplugged (e.g. the 980M being up to 8 times faster than the 680M => from unusable to ).

    Now, I'm impressed by these laptops as well as the Maxwell architecture, but I think this is not a good time to buy a new laptop unless you absolutely have to (not necessarily your case as yours is only 3 years old).
    For several years, Intel has only been giving us minor incremental updates of the core architecture. Next year, Broadwell is going to come along and it's going to be a major leap forward for mobile devices, especially for gaming laptops due to its focus on power efficiency.

    A Maxwell + Haswell configuration is only half of the story and I believe one has to combine a Maxwell GPU with a Broadwell CPU to get the full-blown experience - more than 1 hour of comromise-free gaming while unplugged and that's just the start. It's worth mentioning that AMD is releasing an answer to Nvidia in February. Rumoured to be built on the 20nm node and to feature 3D stacked HBM, it may give Maxwell GPU's a run for their money.



    TL;DR: Wait for Broadwell or if you have to buy a gaming laptop right now, don't make it a big investment due to lots of big advancements coming in near future and settle for the 970M tops.
     
  6. ZerockX

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    But what i'm afraid now is 970m's 3gb vram, it seem a little outdated, since Shadow of Mordor is using up to 6gb. Asus is not releasing a 6gb 970m so i might just go for the bigger, the 980m 4gb
     
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    Look at this guys: https://www.dustinhome.no/product/5010805672/g751jt-t7004h

    Its a shop in my country (Norway).

    The ASUS G751JT T7004H will have:
    - I7-4710HQ
    - 8GB of DDR3L SDRAM
    - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M with 3GB
    - Price 16.395 NOK wich is approximately $2560 and €2024.
    I don't think the hard drive information is correct, but it is listed with 144GB SSD and 1286GB ordinary hard drive.

    What really worries me is that they don't have it in stock until December 5th(!!!)....
    I am also a bit worried about the 970m only having 3GB.. And Im not too happy about only having 8GB of ram.

    I can buy the ASUS G750JZ with 16GB of ram, 880m and allmost the same CPU for $312 cheaper. Maybe the old G750 will perform better than the G751 with 970m?
    The only up-side I can see, is that the G751 apparently will have better cooling.. But is it worth it to wait 2 months? I'm a bit sceptic.


    Sorry for my bad english, hope you understand me. :)
     
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    Bloody hell! That is pretty expensive. Well, I am waiting that G741JM anyway... the one with 860M, 999€.

    e: What I mean is that these are pretty much same laptops with "just" 860M -> 970M and the price is double!
     
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    It's overpriced. Look for the other price people already posted. The one with your spec but 16gb ram priced 1599 euro in France.
     
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    Heh, just noticed this cod muncher webstore version has 1286GB SSD! :eek:
     
  11. ZerockX

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    Lol that explain alot
     
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    It seems that there's a lot of information online for a lot of versions. We still don't know which of them are final and when any of them will release.

    Let's wait for official specs and pricing from Asus before freaking out about converted prices. :rolleyes:
     
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    You can get up to 32GB in the current models. 8x2 and 4x2 is a perfectly valid combination.
     
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    True, though the point might have been that not many of us create special effects for James Cameron...
     
  18. SoulMisaki

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    Because other sites have the release date as the 20th, some have it as early as the 8th. There's no consistency.

    The same problem plagues the specifications - there's so much info on so many different model numbers, we don't know where each will release, and what the finals specs offered will be.
     
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    On the ROG forums some guy is saying they delayed until December 12. All these random dates are just like, wth is going on. :(
     
  20. ZerockX

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    they say nothing about JT version? =(
     
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    Looks like here in Canada product code will be G751JY-DH73-CA instead of G751JY-T7009H No release date yet :(
     
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    It's still very early days yet :)
     
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    We wait and wait and wait.............. in the end if its crap "what were they thinking!" if its good "it's too expensive!" :cry:
     
  25. SoulMisaki

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    I'm really hoping that the 970M version is closer to $1,699 than these leaks are foreshadowing.

    Someone mentioned earlier to wait for Broadwell CPUs - is there any ETA on laptops featuring Broadwell? What're the improvements expected on those?
     
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    In other news, I've found some slight information on the Canadian Model numbers for this series - for any fellow canucks who may be interested. The information is rather slim though, since they're not very detailed entries. (Find -> "G751" -> Told ya'.)

    ASUS ROG G751JM-DH71-CA (JM Series)
    • Price: $1,499~ CAD
    • 1080p FHD 17.3" LCD IPS Display
    • Intel i7-4710HQ (2.5GHz) Haswell
    • Unknown Graphics (Unlisted)
    • Unknown HDD (Unlisted)
    • 12GB 1600Mhz Ram

    ASUS ROG G751JT-DH72-CA (JT Series)
    • Price: $1,859~ CAD
    • 1080p FHD 17.3" LCD IPS Display
    • Intel i7-4710HQ (2.5GHz) Haswell
    • Unknown Graphics (Unlisted)
    • Unknown HDD (Unlisted)
    • 16GB 1600Mhz Ram

    ASUS ROG G751JY-DH73-CA (JY Series)
    • Price: $2,199~ CAD
    • 1080p FHD 17.3" LCD IPS Display
    • Intel i7-4710HQ (2.5GHz) Haswell
    • Unknown Graphics (Unlisted)
    • Unknown HDD (Unlisted)
    • 24GB 1600Mhz Ram

    These are the only models listed - and there are no listed HDD/SDD sizes or Video Card specifications. Though we can likely assume that the cards in each are the 960M, 970M, and 980M respectively.
     
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    Wow the canadian prices is so good. Normally the US price is better or just the same?
    Ah just realize it has no SSD which explain alot for the price
     
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    So 1 question guys, im kinda new. If i want to buy from these sellers, i do it with credit card and they ship to me (Vietnam)? And when they get here, i will have to pay the VAT?
     
  29. SoulMisaki

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    Well the thing is, from the information I could gather at that site - we don't know what video card or what hard drive/SSD configurations those come with.

    About the price thing, usually the US price is a it better, but they're usually around the same price.

    You'd likely have to pay with a credit card, then have it shipped to a place that resends it to you. Often, US stores will not ship overseas for things like this. I know my HP didn't ship to Canada, so I had to pick it up in the states.
     
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    I'm excited about the release getting close, but all that matters to me is the Canadian release, which has no date yet :(
     
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    So quick question here: Why are they adding an optical drive and so many HDDs/SSDs? If they removed all of these, couldn't they have a much thinner laptop? Or is it because of the GPU and Heatsink sizes, and the other components are just there to fill the empty space? I would much rather prefer 1 ssd and 1 hdd (like a 128gb+1/2TB variant), with a much thinner/lighter body rather than all of the space.

    That being said, I'm still planning on purchasing this. 8.38lbs is amazing for all they've packed in there. Is there any word on a US release date?
     
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    There are other laptops like gigabyte that would fulfill your wishes! The body of the "thin" g751 is actually about 2.5cm+, yes it probably is thicker because of good cooling (hopefully) And the screen is thick too = Solid build quality (hopefully) The Fat version is to much for me.. = For us to have choices.

    I would rather buy a little thicker laptop than have one that would bend like an iPhone 6+.. :rolleyes:

    Lol, and if you are tall, carying around a Bigger 17" laptop is no worse than a short person with a 13-15" :D That's how i like to think about it.
     
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    You're making a good decision. I have wrote Asus about making a SLI laptop using only MSATA drives, and no optical drives. To me, this opens up the opportunity for SLI, and superior cooling. We are at the point where 2.5 inch SSDs are not necessary. The price of MSATA drives right now are the best they have ever been. Two MSATA drives, and two monster Nvidia GPUs is what Asus should be thinking about.
     
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    Build quality and cooling(especially cooling) are why I asked about this. I was looking for a good waterproof backpack, and ironically the gigabyte backpack was the only one I could find that fits my needs. The only problem? The g750 is slightly too thick to fit (about .75 inches).

    I also just saw the Aorus x7 on the main maxwell refresh post, but I'm less inclined towards it mostly because of cooling, but also due to battery life and SLI issues of the past. Does the Aorus X7 suffer cooling issues? For a year, I'd use this as my main portable laptop (to and from ill paved roads in a very humid, tropical country where it rains very often), carrying it about a mile and a half to school. After that year, when I return back to the states, I'll be using this only as a desktop replacement, so I figured the Asus would be the better "desktop replacement." I'm not in any hurry though because I have until January before I need to purchase this laptop.

    I agree with your sentiment about SLI,MSATA drives and better cooling vs an optical drive and other unnecessary features. I feel it would be far more applicable to my needs, and appeal to the market. But then again, I'm not sure what the majority of Asus' consumers want, and I assume Asus would be more well informed of those statistics than my opinion can provide. Hopefully if there's a large number of people who like it, Asus will open an ear and listen to them too.

    I'm really excited about this, though! :D
     
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    Have you tried to Yahoo("google"): Waterproof backpack? I found this and hope you find it interesting! I did not know there was so many waterproof backpacks around to choose, and one that can fit a 18" would certainly fit my needs!

    What's the Best Waterproof Laptop Backpack

    Amazon.com: Everki Beacon Laptop Backpack with Gaming Console Sleeve, Fits up to 18-Inch (EKP117NBKCT): Electronics

    I'm sure there are other backpacks too.
     
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    The titan backpack comes with a waterproof cover than can be folded away in it.
     
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    Thanks for the recommendation! I had come across this backpack initially in my search too, but this review made me very wary of it: Linked review

    It seems like the waterproof aspect isn't too great. This wouldn't have been too big of a problem had I found a waterproof case to hold the laptop in, but it seems like my luck is shot because the majority of waterproof cases are for macs and similarly sized laptops. Although I just searched amazon, not google. I should do that :laugh:

    In the end, I did ask on newegg if the G750 fit into the gigabyte backpack, and the replies indicated it did fit, but it was just a squeeze into the laptop compartment specifications mentioned (which is another reason I hope the g751 is at least .1inches thinner). It seems like the gigabyte backpack is the better backpack (comfort and waterproof coat), but I'm much more attracted to the storage arrangement, volume and looks of the everki beacon. I've got time to see the size and decide between the two at a later time, but it seems like the everki backpack has a lifetime warranty! :notworthy:
     
  38. SoulMisaki

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    Out of curiosity, since we don't have final specs on the model numbers for Canada & North America, how much would the following configuration probably cost in either? (CAD/US)

    ASUS ROG G751 Series Laptop
    • 1080p FHD 17.3" LCD IPS Display
    • Intel i7-4710HQ (2.5GHz) Haswell
    • Nvidia 970M (Minimum)
    • 128GB SSD (Minimum, 256GB Preferred) + 1 TB 7200rpm HDD (Minimum)
    • 12GB 1600Mhz Ram (Minimum, 16GB Preferred)

    I'm looking for a new machine to replace my 3 year old HP ENVY 17 3D, and I really love the reviews ASUS' ROG series has been getting. Would the above configuration likely come in under $2000? (The closer to $1599 the better.)
     
  39. praetorianx

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    Your preferred config will most likely sell for $1.799, +/- $100.
     
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    Now I just need them to release something with that configuration. (I guess I could always get the model from a reseller though if anything needs to be changed.)

    Thank you very much.
     
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    How different would the price be from 970 to 980m? around $500?
     
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    I'm looking at the same setup. Boutique resellers is a way to go, cause of the testing and customizations they perform. We'll be fine)
     
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    Last year it was more like $700-$800.....
     
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    Oh wow, that's....steep. $2500+ would be a little too much....T-T
     
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    With minim specs you want it shouldn't cost more than 1599$ easily, same setup with 980m would be 1999$ so you shouldn't get worried :) 1799$ with 256GB SSD+16GB RAM 970m

    400$ more than 970m only from all leaks we saw
     
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    I've got my JX last August for $1.699 in Frys. JM was running for $2.499. Hopefully it's lower this year.
     
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    I'm wondering if Asus gonna release higher Vram version in the future, highly unlikely considering previous models, if they dont i might just go for the GT72. It's ridiculous that Asus cant foresee this :(
     
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    Actually, I think that's the price with VAT. For a better comparison, the price without VAT (13 195 kr) comes to about $1810.
     
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    The starting price of the G751jy here will be ~$1850 (inc VAT) with i7-4710HQ cpu and the highest will be ~$2045 (with i7-4860HQ). Currently there is no information about the 970M unit, so there is a chance that only 980M units will be shipped here.

    A test unit will be arriving this week, I wonder what lcd panel is used and how will GTX980M 4G perform under benchmarks :) Oh and the test unit will be equipped with IPS panel and not TN panel like the G750JZ,
     
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