Asus G751 coming with Maxwell GTX 980M and GTX 970M

on linked site there is no SPD1 ver. in db... this thread is so long already it's hard to find post about it, but it's possible that author stated the screen model to be SPD1 aswell, just linked the closest model version.

all asus g751 models, that i know of (in Poland- g751jy 7012/7063), have sata 3 and sata 2, and haven't seen any complaints about screws being too hard to unscrew... but we are yet to receive 2nd dispatch of laptops on the 5th or 6th - i will get my unit (g751jy 7063) then also. Will report back about the screws although i've ordered version with SSD and HDD (SSD installed by retailer).

well... they must have heard complaints about new build (eg. red keyboard being unreadable when not lit, etc);
Is this display specification somehow wrong?: 17.3" Auto Full HD ( 1920x1200)

 

I purchased the 1tb model and tried to replace it with a Samsung SSD (used the Samsung copy utility) and was unable to get it to boot off the SSD afterwards. I changed the boot priority in the BIOS and when I checked Disk Management in WIn8 it showed the new SSD as the boot drive, however when I removed the 1tb drive it would no longer boot off the SSD. Is there something else that needs to be done? Would it be better for me to make the restore and just restore the system to the SSD?

 

zawszecos, there is an SPD1 listed here:
LG Display LP173WF4-SPD1 Stock 500 pcs - Panelook.com

And, more in google:
https://www.google.com/search?q=+LP173WF4-SPD1&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Someone needs to fix the Advanced Search, it doesn't work for me, all I get is the single hit for the thread, not specific posts - it makes it hard to find things later.

nohaybanda/zawszecos, the G750JY seems a normal expansion of the G750 line, I don't think they rolled it out specifically due to G751 launch issues, it's just another G750 - which comes from a long line of the Stealth F117 lined ROG laptops.
Notebooks & Ultrabooks - G750JY - ASUS

There are a couple of threads on the ROG forums:

Asus G750JY real? G750 with GTX 980M

The New G750JY ROG Laptop - 8gb 980m

G751 broken - faulty temp sensor

It's a tough choice between the G751JY and the G750JY, I prefer the look of the G750JY, but Optimus on the G750JY really kills it for me.

 

jschick77, the boot disk needs to be a GPT disk not a MFT disk, the Asus Backtracker will format a new SSD/HDD as GPT and create the correct partitions before restoring, and it will boot ok.

You could use a cloning program like Macrium Reflect Free to clone from the original HDD to the new SSD, it will preserve the original SSD GPT partitioning - and you can resize the destination partitions to match the size difference between the original HDD and the new SSD.

Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download

I have used Macrium Reflect for a quite a while, and cloned my G750JW/JX/JH disks both to new SSD's and as backup images in csae of loss.

I also recommend using the Asus Backtracker to create a recovery backup flash drive, USB 3.0 16GB is right sized for speed and size of backup. Be careful when using Asus Backtracker - remove any USB storage other than the flash drive to avoid erasing your other USB storage. And, when restoring, remove the original HDD before restoring to the SSD to make sure you don't lose your original HDD - the restore program first finds, erases, and repartitions any internal disks it finds.

Test your restore flash drive after creation on a spare 2.5" HDD, or your new SSD, don't use your original HDD as if the restore fails you will have erased your only recovery partition and boot drive... the only recourse is to send it back to Asus to restore the OS, or return to the seller if you are still in the return window.

Some have mentioned doing the Samsung cloning twice, from the original HDD to the new SSD worked for them, perhaps the Samsung Software notices the Original GPT and sets it correctly the 2nd time around.

Please come back and let us know how it works out for you.

 

Asus G750JY might be real deal. Amazon UK removed their G751JY listings and not even allow me to pre order. They cancelled my pre order around two weeks ago.

 

Thanks so much for the info. I had to RMA it for a separate issue to Newegg and I'm supposed to be getting a replacement in the next few days, I'll reply back once I get the SSD installed. The only other thing that really bugs me about this model is the integrated battery, are most of the newer gaming laptops going to non-removable batteries? I"m coming from a Alienware m17x r2 so its been awhile.

 

Almost all new notebooks come with non removable battery. New Clevo/Gigabyte and MSI gaming notebooks have non removable battery.

 

bigspin, a quick search on Amazon UK found a number of G751 listings active. Maybe it is just the vendor listing you were using that is removed?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb...=aps&field-keywords=g751jy&sprefix=g751jy,aps

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=g751&rh=i:aps,k:g751

 

Hey! if you are disappointed like I was when i saw that there is no blu-ray software with G751, there is a free not-limited blu-ray player here Leawo Blu-ray Player - Best Blu-ray Media Player Software
I hope that will help!

 

Those links are from US sellers and they sell US version. Most of them are from HID evolution shop. Amazon not directly selling G751. Most of the UK sellers removed G751 product listings from their web sites.

 

bigspin, did Amazon UK give a reason for the cancellation and removal of the listings? How long has it been de-listed?

 

They said they cannot give ETA and product is unavailable. They cancelled my preorder around two weeks ago. Initially they said it's temporarily unavailable and allow me to preorder.

 

All the 980M systems are in really high demand at the moment, I wonder if that is causing issues.

 

ASUS is probably trying to fulfill the orders.

 

Glad to know someone too in the same boat

 

Thanks, nice to know I'm not going crazy being the only one perceiving the flicker.

After a bit of web searching I finally found the cause of my issues, the potential problem with my machine, and the fact that flicker is just a way of life with today's electronic displays.

So it looks like the issue is with the inversion pattern used by the display to adjust brightness on the display. Unfortunately for some reason, my particular display reacts badly with a row inversion pattern similar to the ones used by websites like unigine.com.

On the site Inversion (pixel-walk) - Lagom LCD test I tested all my my machines at home and at work to see if I could figure out whether my g751 was having a worse time of it.

Unfortunately only my Asus seems to exhibit heavy flickering with #5 which is a row inversion pattern. My other laptops (Mac Air and Dell XPS 16) did not have any flickering with #5. They did exhibit medium to heavy flickering with other patterns though, particularly 7a/b.

Even the high end HP Dreamcolor monitors we use at work exhibited heavy flickering on either 7a or 7b. But unlike #5, I've yet to come across a website or illustration screentone that matches any of the other inversion patterns that cause heavy flickering on the other machine.

It seems that heavier than normal flickering is usually due to poorly adjusted voltage alignment on the panel leading to an uneven differential between the positive and negative voltages on the LCD.

My current solution is to set my display refresh rate to a custom setting of 74Hz.
Going from 60Hz-> 74Hz results in moderate-low flicker on pattern #5, no flicker on #7a and unchanged light flickering on #7b. Only #5 really concerns me as only that pattern has appeared for me in normal use so far.
An even higher refresh would be more ideal, but I'm unsure of the long term effects on the display panel. In the end I may return this machine and try my luck on another.

Aside from the flickering issues, I really like everything else about the g751 and haven't had any other problems except for the subwoofer issue the series has, and probably the USB port disconnect issue I haven't tested for yet. Oh wait, and there's that HDD glued screw issue I'm going to have to deal with when installing my own SSD. Hmmm...

So I can't tell if my machine's display voltage is just poorly calibrated or my eyes are too sensitive to flicker (almost reminds me of the crappy 60Hz CRT days of eye fatique and flicker). I'll see if anyone on ROG experiences the same with their g751s. It's going to really suck if certain patterns in photoshop or lightroom end up affected by the flickering.


Interestingly my Dell XPS16's awesome flicker free display (AU Optronics B156HW01) is the same brand as your G750.

I'm getting eye fatique even as I type this.. perhaps it's time for this particular laptop to go back to the shop.

 

bluescreenofdeath, you found the right test site, I use that one as well. The flicker you are describing at 74hz is about the same as on the Chi Mei display used on many of the G-series notebooks - even before the G750.

The flicker continues on the Chi Mei right up to just before 85hz, that seems to be a solid refresh for the Chi Mei, perhaps it will be for the LG in your G751

Several people have now tried 100hz, and it is running well for them. I would think to continue trying to raise the refresh until there isn't a quiver in the 7b image, or the others, and then please let us know what is the lowest high refresh needed for this new display.

I am now running the AUO at 85hz, and it is stable. Out of the box 11/2013 it would only do 70hz. At 60hz 7b "shimmers", but at 70hz and above it is solid.

The AUO fault is that it is too bright indoors at 100%, I run it around 50-70% depending on ambient lighting.

How about the brightness of the LG IPS display in the G751? That might be part of the eye strain you are feeling. I know that at 100% the AUO is dazzling to the eye, and really reduced eyestrain for me by reducing the brightness down to 75%, and then finally down into the 60% range as my eyes became accustom.

Also good to check for is if the display flickers or whines as you drop the brightness down - some makes/models have this "feature" - limiting the practical control range. I haven't seen this on an ROG laptop yet.

I don't think this LG display flicker is unique to your laptop. Hopefully other G751 IPS displays will go to this website and look for the flicker to confirm one way or the other.

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/inversion.php

 

Thanks for the details! I feel a lot better about my laptop now, but still just a tad annoyed when I compare it to my Dell's display. My older Dell XPS had an even better screen.. ah the trade offs.

I'm suspecting the brightness as well, so I'll have to play around with it. Running the Clear Type optimizer in Windows helped quite a bit with text I think. Fortunately no whining or flickering bonus on this model.

Will keep testing different refresh rates then!

 

bluescreenofdeath, I was just coming back to remind you to re-run the Cleartype setup after changing the refresh / brightness.

I am pleased to find my AUO B173HW02 V1 display is now running fine at 85hz, from a max of 70hz out of the box. The image is visibly smoother. It's a nice surprise that the refresh headroom increases over time. Something to remember to try for your own display down the road. I also reduced the brightness yet again.

I see your thread in the G751 section of the ROG.asus.com website, I hope you get some responses from other G751 owners. And, I look forward to seeing the results of the increasing refresh on the flicker.

You all will work out all the kinks in the G751 in no time

 

Is there a frensch speaking person in this thread?
i found this link but the price is really low.. Is the information correct?
ASUS ROG G75 - Achat/Vente ASUS ROG G75 Pas Cher - Rueducommerce
Asus - ROG G751JY-T7004H - pas cher Achat/Vente Ordinateur Portable Grand Public - RueDuCommerce


Thanks!!

 

10% discount so yes, this is the correct price.

 

Here you are guys, board pics. I removed everything to install 4 * 8gb ram sticks as well as change the paste over the gpu/cpu/vram. Sorry if it has been posted before:





ASUS G751JY-T7064D

ASUS G751JY-T7064D, Intel Core i7-4860HQ, Quad-core (2.4 GHz-3.6GHz Turbo, 6M Cache, 47w), NVIDIA GeForce GTX980M (N16E-GX) 4GB GDDR5 + Intel Iris 5200, 8GB DDR 1600MHz (3xslot free), 1TB 7200rpm 2.5`` (one bay free), DVD SuperMulti, BT4.0, Illuminated KB, HD Webcam, Thunderbolt port, Intel HM87 chipset, HDMI 1.4, Display port 1.1A, Subwoofer, 3-in-1 card reader, 4xUSB3.0, 802.11AC, Built in Subwoofer, Rear Venting design, Dual Copper thermal modules for GPU and CPU, Record/Steam/ROG Macro key, Turbo-Master technology, 4.5kg, 88WHrs, 8 cell Li-ion Battery Pack (up to 508 mins in Office productivity mode), 17.3`` FHD IPS (1920x1080) non-glare 8ms, 300nit, Gamers Bag, FREE DOS

bought for 80,600mkd (1310 euro or 1644 usd) upgraded with 4*8gb ram up from the 8gb single stick, waiting on 2*2TB samsung platter drives (one in the DVD bay one in the second hdd tray) and a samsung PCI-E 4X m.2 ssd as a main drive to arrive.

contact me if you need higher res. pics.

 

Please post high res pictures.

 

It looks like this time Asus decide not to use mxm type VGA board.

 

imgur is scaling the pics I think, try these for higher res:
imgur: the simple image sharer
imgur: the simple image sharer

Yes, the gpu is not a separate MXM module, and can't be replaced. It shares the pcb with the other components. The voltage regulators are also being properly cooled as the heatsink is seated above them as well. There weren't any warranty stickers on any of the screws inside, including the 8 that are used to attach the heatsink over the motherboard. There was a sticky thermal compound over everything in huge amount, tho the paste over the cpu and gpu was solidified. I replaced it with a noctua thermal paste, didn't have anything better at hand, this is decent. There weren't any adhesive/thermal pads which is good, their thermal conductivity is lower, so I wouldn't bother going to this stage and replacing the thermal compound if I were you.

Next, I'll try to fit a M.2 SSD + normal SSD without the case, both in the same bay. Waiting for their arrival.

The first sample I got from this notebook came with a stuck green pixel, I've replaced it b.c of that during the 15 day window (replaced it on the second day). The new unit came bundled with a mouse, (ROG 850) - which was present only in 1 out of the 3 boxes the dealer had at hand (the sleazy seller wanted me to give the mouse to him as a gift after making me wait for 1.5 hours before giving me the replacement unit).

Overall, I'm quite please with this machine. I'll wait for the PCI-E hdd to arrive before doing a fresh windows install, currently using it as is from another machine (N550JV).

Only complaint is the fit and finish. The laptop is way too easy stain from finger oil and I doubt this rubberized emulsion which it's covered with over the plastic will cope long term.

 

Post picture from opposite side of the motherboard please?

 

deteplete3, thanks for the awesome photo's

If you take shots along the way for reassembly that would be nice too, to see the fit of things, and as jmhdj asked a photo of the other side.

It looks like there is no way to swap the SATA III / SATA II connectors between the bays, as they are fixed on the monolithic motherboard, so the only other thing I can think of is to find a M.2 PCIE extension cable to route from the M.2 PCIE connector in Bay1 to Bay2 - that way we can use the SATA III port in Bay 1 and use the M.2 PCIE in Bay 2. Simultaneous use of both the SATA III port and M.2 PCIE port should work ok, as they are different paths, but it is good to test it first.

Nice to know there weren't any Warranty stickers, but given the paste change, I think Asus will be able to figure it out without stickers.

I am a little disappointed that the heat sink / pipes / cooling sections aren't isolated into 2 independent systems, that is the bug with MSI that causes their GPU heat to thermal throttle their CPU. The resulting heat readings for CPU/GPU we have been getting show the Asus cooling solution is working really well, so it isn't a problem.

The photo shows left/right reversed, so the left side USB ports are on a daughter card connected with a simple USB extension cable. I wonder if replacing that cable with a better shield/ground connection might solve the disconnection issues. The Right side USB ports are soldered onto the motherboard, solidifying their power/ground connection better than the daughter card solution.

Finger oil is always a problem with the "stealth rubber" coating, but alcohol wipes work to float and wipe away the oil, as long as you do it regularly/often and don't let the oils soak in for long enough to stain. The rubber actually wears well, except in the case of constant rubbing in a rough laptop bag - or if you keep something else rubbing contact with the case over time.

Please post before/after benchmark runs with hwinfo temperature readings to show the paste temperature improvement. Logs of full runs would be best to show the readings in between the peak readings.

Thanks again for the photo's!

 

i'm curios to see if both m.2 and 2.5" fits like u want to....post pictures if u succeed

 

Compared to the G750JZ, that cooling system is a huge step back ...

 

It's amazing how radically different the two systems are. Also elpida vram, an interesting decision.

 

DRevan, on the face of it, the G750JZ parts look more impressive, but the G751 CPU/GPU temperature results are as good or better than the G750JZ - sure some credit is due to the lower wattage 970m/980m, but the CPU is the same and the CPU temps are impressively low on the same benchmarks/stress tests as I have run on the G750JH - which is essentially the same results as on the G750JZ.

IDK what materials Asus is using that are different than the G750JZ, but the G751 cooling parts are more effective in a much smaller combined cooling system than the much bulkier independent cooling systems in the G750JZ.

I would say the G751 smaller combined cooling system is a huge step forward from the G750 massive independent cooling systems, based on results.

If Asus applies the same materials tech / engineering to the G750JY, working within the larger physical space of the G750, it could end up even better than the G751

I am much more optimistic that we can obtain thinner laptops using smaller cooling components - with the assist of lower wattage CPU/GPU's - after seeing the results from the G751 cooling system.

 

My thoughts exactly, Meaker.

If you remember me, I was one of the people following your repaste of the G750.. it's amazing how the 9XXm's are integrated into the actual motherboard now.

The question I have now is.. why are the sink blocks so small compared to the G750's?

 

But are the specs the same as the Asus G751JY-DH? Cause then the price is really really low and im willing to buy it! Cause I have to think that there is a catch or something wrong with the screen or whatever..
Thanks for your reply.

 

But the price is low only because of the discount, no problem with the specs. It is a just good deal that won't last for ever so go on

 

Thats good to know! Then I guess it go buy it!
Do you also know if they ship internationally?

 

It seems that they ship only to France and Belgium.

 

Hey guys is it recommended to stress-test a laptop upon buying it? Sorry if this is a silly question but it's my first ever gaming laptop purchase (asus g750). What programs are the best to ensure the cpu, graphics and whatnot are faultless and what kind of things should I watch out for?

 

Hi guys this is my bench test scores :
Fire striker : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4860HQ Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. G751JY , Sky Diver : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4860HQ Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. G751JY , Cloud Gate : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4860HQ Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. G751JY , Ice Storm : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4860HQ Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. G751JY . With hwinfo32 i see after each test in high temps on Cpu 92+ but normall temps never rich 80 , gpu never rich even 75 in high . And i have question to hmscott can u help me and paste me links to wifi problems ?

 

Okay, is the keyboard layout a qwerty?

 

No, French AZERTY.

 

ahhhh thats a buzzkill.. If not I would have got it. Thanks for helping me anyway!

 

well i had no luck with my G751JY (i7-4860 / 980m),
I picked it up on friday, turned it on after 3hrs of charging etc., updated bios to 205, other drivers too, laptop restarted multiple times during this process, then did some benchmarks and stress tests - runs nice and cool BUT after 5-6 hrs the display started to twinkle slowly, then faster. After restart it took a minute for the display to light up and then it worked fine. On saturday i did not turn it on. Today, on Sunday i turned the laptop on, again the display did not light up imidiately and started to twinkle after few minutes, the went dark! and stayed that way. I pluged in exterior monitor and it works fine, laptop's display seems to lost the back light. First i thought it can be some software problem regarding previous updates but now i think it's hardware. Going to call retailer for replacement tomorrow morning.
Anyone reported similar problem on this laptop??

 

Didn't see anything similar in this thread. I think it is a hardware problem too. Good luck for replacement though it should be fine.

 

Not something I have heard about, it could be a loose display cable though.

 

Finally replaced the Wifi, and wow, what a difference. No more dropouts, max speed and signal strength.

Quite the procedure to replace it, but so much worth it.

 

Apoxxx, details?

What new card, router connected to, speeds on internet / LAN, connection status dialog, photo's?

 

I don't think my last post was replied to so posting again.

If you buy internationally where can you get global warranty now as it seems resellers don't offer global warranty anymore?

Also in terms of the wireless card in the laptops I have read mostly bad things about it. But can anyone tell me what speed they get with this card where they have over a 100mb connection? What card is the best to replace the intel one?

Also read comments over past few pages seems people prefer g750 over g751. Why is that exactly as the former is an older model?

I really hope anyone can help me.

 

I replaced it with the Qualcomm Atheros AR5BWB222, which is basically the Killer 1202 but in a M.2 format suitable for the G751.
Connection to my Apple Airport Extreme went from 2 bars and 90mbit (with constant disconnects and lag) to 4 bars and a constant 300mbit, no lag and no disconnects.
I'm superhappy.

Lost possibility for AC, but couldn't care less about that to be honest.

 

That is strange, now not just changeable components of the laptop (ram, hdd) differ by country, but also the warranty?
The cheapest G751JY model in Hungary is $1800 with 2 year Global Warranty which is okay in every country that has an Asus Branch office (United Kingdom, Hungary, Germany, USA, Canada, etc).

btw, I checked again, are you sure that there is no Global Warranty for the US models?: XoticPC is selling the JY with NA warranty, however PowerNotebooks is selling the JY for $2499.00 with 1 year Global Warranty.

 

Apoxxx, where did you find the Qualcomm Atheros AR5BWB222 as an M.2 form factor? I can only find the PCI-E Half Mini Card version.

Sounds like a much better fit, and you are right, 802.11ac isn't needed for 99.9% of the current internet connections. Gigabit internet is a ways off still.

I have been looking for the Killer N1525 Wireless-AC, but it still isn't for sale as part yet. They are cheap enough that it isn't a burden to swap out a couple of times.

How tough was it to disassemble? Briefly, what were the steps