Asus G751 coming with Maxwell GTX 980M and GTX 970M

Yeah, that's the main selling point of this laptop. I still cannot believe optimus exists, it's a barely functional system that cripples any computer's potential.

Speaking of potential, it's a real shame the people at nVidia are a bunch of idiots. I never OC'ed anything in my life, and based on what I use this laptop for I cannot imagine ever doing it for my G751 either (heavy video editing, and 1080p/60fps gaming for me is more than enough), but this is a huge hit on this beast's potential performance...

EDIT: Yup it's me, Shiny Where did you see me?

 

No idea, never been outside Norway. xD But i know people with such a good notebook got good taste.

 

That's a pretty stunning price there, enjoy. Optimus is not so bad unless you like to overclock the inbuilt display.

 

It seems the laptop is now 2 months on backorder here in Switzerland. I wonder why...

 

It has been a popular model, but Asus do have an interesting stocking history in different places.

 

Damn, people were saying the G751JY was GSYNC compatible and it turned out to be true...and now a user confirms it's also compatible with 1866Hz RAM: http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?58028-The-G751JY-is-compatible-with-1866MHz-RAM

This beast just keeps getting better and better, if only nVidia allowed overclocking again

 

Standard practise may be to start using the older drivers to find your max overclock and then flashing the desired clocks for gaming. It's what I have done with my machine, I run at 1266/1500 all day long with my 980m.

 

Got my new G751JY but i can't seem to get the damn backlit keyboard to work. Planned to do a clean install of Windows 8.1 Pro anyways so hopefully this is just some glitch.

 

FN + F4 having no impact even in the bios? If not then it's not driver related.

 

Seems like it has no effect but the caps lock button does light up. Could it be because I got a keyboard tailored for nordic region?

 

Probably, maybe the "tailored" keyboard lacks the LEDs or the cable is not correctly connected.

 

VICTORY!!

https://www.change.org/p/nvidia-re-enable-overclocking-on-geforce-equipped-notebooks/u/9736256

 

After 10 minutes on the phone with both the retailer and Asus support they agreed to take it back in exchange for a new unit, as the keyboard should still come with backlight even though it is tailored for use in Norway, Denmark or Sweden. Had to explain that i tried restoring it from the recovery partition as well as trying their ATK driver but no dice. The best news however is that i basically live near the place i had to mail it to so delivered it straight to their warehouse.
Now i just gotta wait until next week for the replacement to show up and this time i hope i get a perfect unit.

 

Awww you left Clevo for Asus!

 

All they do between the regions is replace the key caps for the most part so yes it should be the same backlight wise. It could be a faulty trace in the keyboard itself if it is partially working.

 

I know and i kinda hate myself for it but can't skip out on such a great deal. The Clevo reseller in Norway ain't bad either but they don't usually offer discounts.

 

Still got the 980m you wanted. But the soldered CPU is a shame, your 2960XM likely more powerful. Plus would have helped with your streaming and other background processes. But glad we both found laptops that said no to Intel and the horrible broken switchable graphics.

 

Depends on the cpu, the 4xxx has a fairly decent ipc advantage over the 2xxx series.

 

Even with IPC advanatage, I'm quite sure my 3940XM or even a 2960XM @4.0GHz, 4.2GHz can burn the i7-4710HQ BGA turd CPU.. Not to mention, keep the turbo boost for longer..

 

Running at 3.5ghz (its max overclock) it would be fairly close. It has lower tdp limits but also lower power consumption to off set it.

 

My Clevo P170HM won't allow me to overclock so the 2960MX is running at stock clocks. Oh how i wish i could adjust that in bios.

 

You can overclock the 2960MX in the HM.

 

This Guide says that the P170HM BIOS can allow XTU to work in the P150HM, so you might try XTU for CPU tuning on your P170HM

[Guide] Upgrading P150HM with 2960XM....and overclocking it! (XTU)
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...150hm-with-2960xm-and-overclocking-it.704934/

 

Yes the P170HM bios should allow overclocking via XTU without any modifications.

 

Hey Guys.
I think about getting an ASUS g751 YT (970M). Lately, news have occured that nvidia ships the new GPUs with a vbios, that locks overclocking .
Do you have any news, if asus will ship their g series with a locked vbios (that prohibits overclock) ?

 

So far, no. However, rumor has it that they've rethink-ed their intent and will allow OCing. Anyway, if you're buying point is the overclockability, then you probably should think of a Clevo desktop replacement better.

 

that actually is strange. Because so far, a clevo laptop (sold by schenker germany) has had a locked vbios.
When did you get your laptop? And do you have a OC lock?

 

The Asus vbios is different to the regular kind so it's hard to say if they will use such an update.

 

@hmscott : sorry for keeping you waiting, saw @ the rog forums need these pics as well.
I didn't really try to make it look fancy or tidy, way to busy for that. At least temps are normal now. There is cooling on the controllers as well:




There is high conductivity tape between the M.2 and the sata ssd board. The 2.5" drive fits snugly in so there isn't really a need to have it taped at all, just a small patch is enough.

 

deteplete3, much nicer than the total tape coverage method

It's too bad the M.2 Samsung XP941 drive doesn't seem to have an accessible temperature sensor, so we don't know what the temp is on the M.2 board.

There are still optimizations to reduce contact, improve air flow, I will mention the first one that comes to mind.

Cut the high conductivity tape into strips and only put 2 strips, one on each side (stacked for height?) of the row of chips on the M.2 to support the 2.5" SSD coming into contact. If that holds the cards apart, some air flow can get in there and cool between the boards.

How are the connectors holding up? When held in place do the boards go in perpendicular, or are the boards angled slightly up/down?

joshindaphils posted another way of doing this in the ROG forums, it works with short 2.5" drive internals - pull the SSD board out from the 2.5" case and the 250GB Samsung 850 Evo will fit between the M.2 and the 2.5" socket when plugged in. Unfortunately the 512GB and 1TB boards are too long, but they can cross the M.2 just as in your photo's.

How to add a 4th drive to your G751 - 1st post, with photo's
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...e-to-your-G751&p=478122&viewfull=1#post478122

How to add a 4th drive to your G751 - Temps
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...e-to-your-G751&p=478411&viewfull=1#post478411

Thanks again deteplete3 / XenonMK - and joshindaphils !!

 

The heatsink on the M.2 is a good idea.

 

So since a week the temps of the CPU seem to be way higher than normally, before my i7-4860HQ was around 70 degree celcius but since a week its running at 80.
Also my GTX 980m went from 60 to 70. Anyone here who shares the same experience? And is the temp normal?

 

Those temperatures are still within limits, have you tried blowing through some compressed air to see if are getting rapid dust accumulation?

 

I havent done that yet, that might be the issue. Am I allowed to change the cooling paste of the CPU? ( Warranty etc. )

 

Not really, fiddling with the insides of the cooling system is not a good idea, but if you are having overheating issues, them replacing the thermal paste is under warranty, so get your reseller or ASUS representative to get your laptop back in shape.

 

Finally recieved my replacement Asus G751JY on March 2nd and finally i could see how the backlight keyboard works. Deleted the stock Windows install for a clean Windows 8.1 Pro one (Yay for phone activation) and so far i'm really impressed by both the performance as well as how quiet it stays while under load.
Did get some issues with using my external USB 3.o hard drive but a quick bios update to 206 version as well as entering bios to change one thing fixed that.

Spoiler

Booted up BIOS and set XHCI pre-boot mode to enabled. You can find it under the Advanced tab and then entering USB Configuration.

While non user upgradable CPU and GPU could be a deal breaker for some i'm okay with it and not having to deal with Optimus is great. I'l give it my seal of approval.

 

DEagleson, that's great news

On my G750JH the XHCI pre-boot mode defaults to Smart-Auto, what is the default on the G751?

After disabling power save on the laptop hubs via Device Manager and via the WD app for the external drive, I haven't had any issues with transfer rates, disconnections, etc. So I haven't needed to play with the BIOS setting as above.

What was the symptom that you cured with the BIOS change? I might just try Enable myself, and see if there is any change. I wonder why there is a Disable - what needs that?

Glad to hear the laptop is working out for you. The long term effect of not having a replaceable CPU/GPU is nil for most of us. By the time the laptop is ready for an upgrade, there is another Motherboard Chipset, or even a new family of CPU's, so I haven't missed non-upgradeable CPU's since the G2s or upgradeable GPU's

Look at the poor AW 18 guys, they thought they had it made, and then Dell dumps the AW 18 and future upgrades - and the 980m SLI doesn't work - and no more fixes to get it to work.

Leaving Clevo/Sager, pretty cool stuff, but way too expensive.

Asus always comes out on top, price performance, and if you stick with it, you can always work out the bugs too

 

Smart Auto was the default one for me but it did not play nice with my external hard drive. First it refused to work and after a reboot it would just constantly disconnect.

 

DEagleson, thanks for that, I wasn't having a problem, but set USB XHCI to Enable - and also DISABLE for Legacy USB. No difference, but leaving it there to see if anything I hook up complains.

Glad to hear it fixed your external USB disconnects.

 

Something like this:

http://eshop.sintech.cn/m2ngff-bm-key-sata-ssd-extender-cable-with-external-case-p-1006.html

Could let you maybe having the m.2 drive sit slightly more comfortably in the space, you would need to remove the little PCB from the external case but that would not be hard.

 

I tend to agree. While I like having the option to upgrade (and I did just that with my AW17 R1) I typically just change the entire machine 1-2 years down the road. By the time I "need" to upgrade, I'd rather just get a new machine with the latest tech/specs. And unlike desktops, laptops get a lot of wear and tear on them, due to the small form factor. I'd just rather get a new machine.

That's another issue - just because you *can* upgrade that hardware, doesn't mean this new hardware will be supported and actually work. I mean, even upgrading my AW17 to the GTX 980M was a bit more involved than simply switching out the GPU. You have to make sure you're running a GPT boot drive, in UEFI mode with legacy and secure boot disable. You also have to use modded drivers.

Then there's the fact that laptop chassis are usually designed around a certain range of components, and putting in newer parts that draw more power/create more heat might be beyond the original chassis specifications.

I find that as long as you get a non-defective ASUS model, you're set. It's just annoying having to play the ASUS quality control lottery. You may have to return/exchange a few machines before getting one that isn't broken.

 

I just made a curious discovery...I think my G751JY has been hibernating instead of shutting down all this time

I went to check if hibernation was disabled in Windows, and it was. But I noticed the hiberfil.sys was still on my C drive, which was weird. So I typed powercfg -h off to delete the file safely, and now I just freed about 26GB on my SSD. I was like cool.

Then I noticed that shutting down and turning on were different from that point on. While turning on those spinning white balls never appeared for me on this laptop and now they show up, and while shutting down it usually just showed the shutting down screen for like a milisecond before it faded to black and now the screen is more prevalent and then shuts down...

...is it possible my G751 has been hibernating instead of shutting down this whole time?

 

Yes it very much is, the default has been changed to hibernate rather than turn off for mobile devices in windows.

 

That just seems like bad design to me, specially when a device comes with a SSD installed. Sure you may spare 2 or 3 seconds on boot, but writting into a hiberfil.sys file everytime you shut the device off can wear the SSD.

If I don't notice any other change, i'll keep it disabled thank you very much

 

I do too to be fair, it will be interesting to see if we just get sleep/restart/shutdown as SSDs get more common.

 

I just now realized there are no media button shortcuts on the keyboard. No Fn + XXX for quick play/pause/stop etc.

Any way to program the macro keys to do this? Kinda silly that a gaming/multimedia laptop would not have these dedicated function keys available.

 

Called the company from who I bought my g751 from, and they said that I am allowed to change mo cooling paste. For some reason the temps keep getting higher as it is around 85-90 degreee celcius now. They also told me I could sent it to Asus so thry could check it up. What should I do? Send it back or change the cooling paste?

 

Changing your own cooling paste sounds like a warranty violation. They make the hard drives and ram easily accessible cause you're allowed to change them. I'd contact Asus before going anywhere near the processor if you care about the warranty.

 

Yeah I tought the same, but she said that if they allow me to do it Asus has nothing to say which I find pretty weird. I think i will just sent it back cause then I cant damage it myself. 90 degree celcius is pretty high for a two month old laptop right? It used ti run at 70.

 

Can you go to the Asus service centre and give them a tube of IC Diamond or Gelid GC Extreme and ask them repaste with that? That way you'll get much better temps etc..