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    Asus G751 coming with Maxwell GTX 980M and GTX 970M

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Cloudfire, Sep 19, 2014.

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    I doubt they would, they will have their own procedures and recommended equipment as a larger company.
     
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    Anybody had issues with the M.2 slot? I just bought an ADATA M.2 SSD, but it isn't detected by the BIOS at all.

    Anybody aware of a compatibility list for the computer?
     
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    Is there a way to take control of the fans? I think they spin a tad bit higher than they should in idle mode.

    Edit: Anyone feel they spin a bit high in idle mode? HWinfo show idle temps at 50 for both cpu and gpu.
     
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    Anyone updated to the latest Nvidia driver? 347.88. Now the refresh rate is back to 60 Hz but the default overclock of 5% has been restored.
     
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    Ramzay, the G751JY uses the form factor M.2, and it uses the PCIE x4 interface.

    The ADATA SP900 is a form factor M.2, but it uses the SATA III interface.

    These aren't compatible. Replace it with an M.2 PCIE x4 SSD.

    The newest is the Samsung SM951, which is faster than the XP941 shipped with the G751JY - but even that model is 2x faster than the SATA III M.2's :)

    Unfortunately I couldn't find a place offering the SM951 yet, still a few weeks off before shipping.

    Here are the XP941's available on Amazon, except for the 128GB, that's too small for a boot drive...

    http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-XP941...&qid=1426635063&sr=1-1&keywords=samsung+sm951

    http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-XP941...&qid=1426635063&sr=1-2&keywords=samsung+sm951

    Please let us know what you get and how it works out for you :)
     
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    Exactly, samsung rules the roost mostly on PCI-E m.2 at the moment.
     
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    How many hz you can push this laptop monitor?
     
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    It will be in the 65-100hz range that most panel ranges can do.
     
  9. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    This site has been selling SM951's... A few people with Clevo P750Zm have bought it from there: http://www.flexxmemory.co.uk/catego...cie-solid-state-drive-ssd.html?sort=pricedesc
     
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    How you can overclock the panel to 100hz?
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You set a custom resolution in the nvidia control panel.
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Prepare for your wallet to be raped :D
     
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    TomJGX, it's rumored that Apple bought all the production of the 1TB model of the SM951, so I will wait till the pulls start showing up on Ebay, and get them after the premium has been paid ;)
     
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    No need to go crazy just now, this tech is going to mature a lot in the next year or so :)
     
  16. UltimaXemnas

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    Yeah, G751JY here and I also went from 75Hz to 60Hz.

    Maybe they changed it for safety reasons? People keep saying the risk is minimal though, so I created a 75Hz profile :p
     
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    As a manufacturer they need to ensure everything runs in spec for maximum reliability and so they can claim warranty on the parts from the manufacturers they use.

    As a user the restructions are less.
     
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    So something like this would work then?

    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820249046
     
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    Ramzay, the sellers aren't representing / calling out the difference between PCIE x2, Gen 2 PCIE x4, and Gen 3 PCIE x4 as well as they should.

    The M6e PCIE x2 would work, but would be not the best purchase now or in the future, as for the same price you can get a faster Gen 2 PCIE x4 part. Big difference in performance.

    (Gen 1) PCIE x2 256GB M6e speed is 770MB/sec read 580MB/sec write.

    Plextor M6e 256GB M.2 PCIe SSD Review
    http://www.legitreviews.com/plextor-m6e-256gb-m-2-pcie-ssd-review_144812

    The Gen 2 PCIE X4 is the next speed step up, and is available with the Samsung XP941, Gen 2 PCIE x4 with 1.170GB/sec read and 970MB/sec write.

    The newegg.ca site doesn't have the Samsung XP941, so I can't show it to you there, here are the XP941's at newegg.com:

    XP941's at newegg.com
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...r=BESTMATCH&Description=xp941&N=-1&isNodeId=1

    Note how only the 512GB says PCIe x4 or 4 PCIE lanes, the other size XP941's don't call out Gen 2 PCIE x4, but they are Gen 2 PCIE x4's as well.

    Here is the XP941 PCIE x4
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147366&cm_re=xp941-_-20-147-366-_-Product

    Gen 2 M.2 PCIE x4 SSD's are the fastest M.2 PCIE parts, right now.

    In April/May/? the Gen 3 PCIE X4 parts come out, and the new Gen 3 parts are even faster. 2.1GB/sec read and 1.6GB write.

    The Samsung Gen 3 SM951 is one of the new Gen 3 PCIE x4 parts coming "soon".

    The new Samsung SM951 and Plextor M7e are going to be faster than the XP941... so it is worth the wait if you can wait...

    Samsung SM951 (512GB) PCIe SSD Review
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/8979/samsung-sm951-512-gb-review

    Plextor M7e M.2 PCIe SSD Performance Numbers From CES 2015
    http://www.legitreviews.com/plextor-m7e-m-2-pcie-ssd-performance-numbers-ces-2015_156766

    But, I don't know how easily or quickly the Gen 3 M.2 parts will be available, it might take weeks or months before we can purchase them outside OEM channels... for now the XP941 Gen 2 PCIE x4 parts are the fastest M.2 PCIE x4 SSD's :)
     
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    Hmm, I see. Thanks.

    Weird/annoying how ASUS made this laptop only compatible with M.2 drives that are not only hard to come by, but really expensive too.
     
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    Ramzay, that's how cutting edge works, stuff performs better but can cost more. And, access is always an issue at the release of new technology. You can find it, and for a good price, if you keep looking and stay vigilant.

    The M.2 price isn't that different from the 2.5" cost when M.2 PCIE x4 came out, but now that the 2.5" SSD's are considered SLOW, the 2.5" SSD prices are dropping rapidly, it's amazing how cheap 2.5" SSDs have become.

    The M.2 PCIE x4 Gen 2 prices are dropping now too, in anticipation of the Gen 3 PCIE x4 SSD release.

    I don't think the M.2 parts prices are too high, but now is a good time to get the 2.5" SATA III SSD's if you don't mind the slow speed.

    Remember the 2nd Bay of the G751 is SATA II so any SATA III SSD is going to run only at 285MB/sec read and 275MB/sec write - or less..
     
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    Does anyone have any suggestions for cleaning this laptop? Mine is looking a little dirty, but I can't seem to be able to get any of the dust/dirt off from it.
     
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    Can't win on this one, use the old standard and you are accused of not being forward think enough, use the new one and people find the drives hard to find.
     
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    You can use a microfiber cloth which you made a tiny bit wet, but only a tiny bit! Wring it first before you touch the laptop with it.
     
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    Anyone have a problem with dust/lint accumulation? I need a way to clean it without voiding warranty. Searched for G750 as G751s are new but every video suggests to open it(all the screws on the bottom).
     
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    You could use compressed air into the vents.
     
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    I tried replacing the 256GB XP941 from Samsung in my G751JY with the new SM951 version (bought from FLEXX memory, co, uk) but it wouldn't work. The computer couldn't see the drive. Considering this drive along with another sm951 512gb were intended for a desktop build I didn't waste too much time trying to find the problem. Perhaps I've mounted it wrong in the socket or should have changed something in the bios but from my 5 minutes fiddling with it, it didn't work.

    The drive works perfectly fine in a deskop build now (X99 deluxe asus motherboard in the addon pcie4x connector adapter card with m.2 slot, as well as the onboard m.2 socket thats electrically connected direclty to the cpu via 4x pcie lanes).
     
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    Interesting, we will see if anyone else has an issue.
     
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    Since I bought this machine I am having trouble that sometimes when I start the computer my screen is black, when I restart my laptop its fine and the problem is fixed. I am also having trouble with my network card, sometimes when I start my laptop it shows that it is disabled and when I restart the computer this problem is also fixed. Lately I am having this problem more and more, is there anyone else having this issue?
     
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    I also have this network card issue, but with my old g73jh. Here it helps to run the network troubleshooter (which will reset the interface).
    I think that might be a Windows 8 issue.

    No idea about the blackscreen though. Does it work if you close and open the lid?
     
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    Just discovered that the G751JY is starting to disappear from stores in Switzerland. No successor visible?!?
     
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    Got my Asus G751JT (GTX970M) today.

    Initial findings:

    Positive:
    Very good and silent cooling.
    Good performance
    Good keyboard and trackpad.
    Very good IPS panel, no backlight leak!

    Negative:
    Unfortunately I got a stuck green pixel on my panel (No ZBD warranty in EU AFAIK), upper right corner so won't be a big problem, still a bit "meh".
    When playing som frequencies the case/keyboard vibrates making the music sound unclean. (already updated audio drivers and tweaked subwoofer down a bit).
    Some keyboard keys are misplaced. For example som stupid ROG key where num lock should be!
    The 256Gb SanDisk SSD is nothing special, just average (about 500Mb/s read 400Mb/s write).

    Also no Witcher 3 code with my purchase. Seems the offer is limited to some dealers only (bummer).
     
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    The sandisk drives don't have high peak speeds but are nice and consistent usually which is more important.
     
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    Thank you for your reply :)
    http://imgur.com/IUxqrBx This is how it looks when the NIC is disabled, I am sorry that it is Dutch and not English.
    When I close and open the lid nothing happends. Can I send the laptop back to Asus for this issue? It is getting pretty annoying.
     
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    deteplete3, thanks for that info, sorry to hear it wouldn't work right out of the box. Maybe it will take a BIOS update? Too bad you didn't have time to debug it with Asus, maybe at least report the problem to them, and ask if they intend to support the SM951 in the G751?

    Would you also please take the time to post this issue in a new thread in the G751 forums at ROG? Asus people read those forums, and if you don't have time to follow up with a Technical Inquiry submission, at least the forum post can be read.

    http://rog.asus.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?198-G751-G771-G551-and-GL552-Gaming-Notebooks

    Thanks deteplete3!
     
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    Was the laptop battery totally discharged when this happened?
     
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    Guys, I really wanted to try that SATAIII mod deteplete3 did and put a 1tb ssd in that slot. I was wondering if you could answer me this question: in video editing, would performance increase if I leave the source files in the SATAIII SSD instead of the SATAII HDD where I keep them currently?

    Because i'm not noticing that much diference from my old computer, and it also used a SATAII HDD. I keep the temp/cache files on the M.2 SSD, so that will ensure the best possible outcome, I was wondering if putting the source files in an SSD would make a diference...
     
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    Thank you for your reply, I always have my laptop full charged, I think there is something wrong with my motherboard as I am having trouble with my network card too, I tried a few different settings but none seems to work :/
     
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    If you have Win8 on the old machine, open Task manager and check which device is on 100%. If it's the harddisk, than that is the bottleneck, if it's the cpu, I guess you know what the bottleneck is ;)
     
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    anyone have any information on clocking this 980m ? support for the 4gb version seems pretty dead over on techinferno
     
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    You would need to get the vbios modded, you could try talking to people like prema and svl7 as it needs some careful work.
     
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    Amazing that we are considering 2.5" SSD's as slow already
     
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    You still have the option to use a 2.5" SSD form there is a SATA 3 connector in the O Slot along with the M.2 connector
     
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    Sometimes the obvious eludes... A guy posted the best use of the 2.5" slots for maximizing performance and storage.

    He put in 2 1TB HDD's RAID0 - 270MB/sec throughput to a 2TB RAID0 volume.

    It isn't for me, but it is a good way to get maximum performance across 2 HDD's in the G751.

    The HDD is slow enough to not be affected by the 2nd bay SATA II connection, but 2 x 135MB/s brings the speed up to a respectable 270MB/sec :)

    Can't find the link right now, on rog.com, I will follow later if I can find it again.
     
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    A 1tb ssd and a single 2tb hdd would be better for most people. With smaller files the hdd will slow down to 0.001MB/Sec while an ssd will be pumping 40-60MB/sec that is where the real speed difference lies.comes from.
     
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    Meaker, like I said, it wasn't for me, but I think there are a lot of G751's with 1TB+1TB configurations internationally, so reconfiguring those as RAID0 is a great boost in performance, given what they have to work with.

    I wonder what 2 x 2TB would be like? Some people just don't need an SSD. I'm not one of those, but some need more space than speed.

    It's just a nice way to RAID0 the dissimilar SATA III and SATA II bays :)
     
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    Don't forget that you also double the risk of a full data loss with a Raid 0. One disk dead, all data on both disks lost.
     
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    pato, that's why we back up :)

    I haven't had a RAID0 failure on one of my personal machines ever, but if I do, I can restore the OS, update, install drivers, and be back online in short order. In this case I can restore using Macrium Reflect, and only lose a little context.

    A 4TB RAID0 in a laptop is outside my experience, it might be a pain in the butt to do backups if there are lots of file changes, but I would think it would be a gradual build up that wouldn't be a pain until you needed to do a full restore.

    Don't be afraid of using technology, it is easy to talk yourself out of a lot of rewarding experiences :)
     
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    It was just meant as an information :)
    I do use raid, but I keep my fingers away from software only solutions, to many bad experiences in the past ;)
     
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    pato, even hardware solutions are at their hearts software driven.

    It's all software, rely on it :)

    I have run thousands of hardware and software driven RAID systems, they all have their benefits and drawbacks. Well written software and well designed hardware will be reliable - battery backed up helps as well.

    The G750JH/JZ RAID0 has been reliable, with only 2 reported RAID failures in the ROG forum's I have seen, due to bad SSD's. That's a pretty good ratio, as compared to other complaints :)
     
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