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    Asus G751 coming with Maxwell GTX 980M and GTX 970M

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Cloudfire, Sep 19, 2014.

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    Guys anyone having problems on their G751JT with the GTX 970 after updating to NVIDIA GEForce driver 352.86 WHQL? Mine started crashing like everyone but now the CPU has started to thermal throttle when I play CS:GO
     
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    It is not and there is a chance that it will not be enabled with current JY and JT models because ASUS is bringing out new, G-Sync enabled G751 laptops with 980M/970M.

    A "petition" has already started because of this on the ROG forum.
     
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    Asus is being borderline idiotic.

    What possible reason might there be for them to not release G-SYNC drivers to current JT/JY's? I'm personally not that bothered by it, since i'm perfectly fine with the gaming I have with this laptop, but what about the ones that wanted G-SYNC for a long time? And this is not a vocal minority either, it may very well be over 90% of the people who bought this laptop. *sigh*

    In other news, this morning I got the little Windows logo on my taskbar. I already have Windows 10 reserved in my other laptop, i'll wait until compatible drivers are released for my G751JY.
     
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    Because the hardware has to be validated and signed off by Nvidia.
     
  6. cucubits

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    And probably also because of this, the "new" JY with G-SYNC will get a nice price bump skywards.
     
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    Asus have to recover the license fee some how and intel will want a bit more too at launch.
     
  8. cucubits

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    The thing is this kind of messes up my plans. I was ready to order a JY but now I'm thinking about waiting for the "new" one. At least to see the price/specs. It'll be for gaming for sure but for me this G-sync feature is more like a gimmick. Sure it'd be nice to have and maybe go easier on the eyes with it, but it'll do just fine without it too.

    I wonder what kind of a price difference we'll be looking at. Where's the best place to follow these news? Which site announces faster these releases?
     
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    G-sync is very nice and other machines have the refresh rate at 75hz too so all in all games should seem a LOT more fluid.
     
  10. cucubits

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    Another perk for the 'new' G751JY seems to be free upgrade for windows 10. I wonder if this is true.

    I guess this is not the case for all 751JYs?
     
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    Win 10 is free for every (legal) Win8 and Win7 user.
     
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    lol, is it going to be that bad so they have to give it as a free update?
     
  13. pato

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    It's so far actually really nice to use!
    I think they will change to a yearly payment variant, like office 365, but those plans aren't yet known. In any case, for every Win7 and Win8 user who upgrades within the year, can keep it for free.
    Also don't forget that they earn money by sold money through the Application Store, maybe they simply want to have most of the customers able to buy software through that store and finance windows that way.
     
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    that would make sense. We'll see...
     
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    So today my laptop is going to RMA due high temps, wifi card and screen not working correctly. I am pretty worried that I will recieve a different used laptop, does anyone here know what the chance is that you will recieve a refurbished model? And is there a way to decline this if it happends? I have a very good experience with my own G751 apart from the temps and other issues, I would like to get it repaired or a new model but I am not sure how that progress works, anyone here who had any RMA experience with their G751? Thanks!
     
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    This is so frustrating. Since they announced the new g-sync model, why on earth are they still waiting with the pricing. I can understand launch can take a while, stocking suppliers and so on, but at least give us the price. I'm sitting on my hands, not getting the 'old' JY because maybe, just maybe when the new one finally comes out, I'll have more options: either it's just a little more expensive and I'll get that for g-sync, or because it's a new model, it'll drive the price down some more on the 'old' one. In any case, I have to wait... especially frustrating for me since I've been planning on this purchase for a few months now.
     
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    I would get the g-sync model, mostly for the reason how the machine performs in 2-3 years. Once the machine is to slow for stable 60fps, you will benefit big time from g-sync. At least that's one of the main reasons why I am waiting :D I also hope for a 2.5k display too ;)
     
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    I know, this is mostly the reason I am waiting but I'm also preparing myself to say no in case the thing will be too overpriced. To be honest, I don't know how much I'd be willing to pay over the known price just to get g-sync... which, may even get supported in driver level at some point in the current G751s, at some point.
     
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    It was prototyped yes but official firmware and driver support should be a lot more stable.
     
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    Is G-SYNC noticeable in anything not gaming related?
     
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    It's for gaming alone, though now it can also handled windowed content.
     
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    Yeah, I thought so. I'm such a noob at this G-SYNC and FreeSync stuff, back in my day we gamed at 800x600 30fps and we loved that s*** :cool:

    I'm in kind of a dilemma right now: i've stated many times on this thread that I want an external monitor for my JY, but should I throw my money at a 1440p monitor immediately, or wait until 4K monitors are more affordable?

    4K monitors are already dropping in price as we speak, and i'd like to believe by the end of this year a good 4K IPS monitor is available at an acceptable pricetag.

    I don't game much, I mostly edit video, but when I do it's at 1080p because I still think games look great at FHD. 4K has an edge there since it has the same pixel ratio as 1080p. Decisions, decisions... :confused:
     
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    What about requirements for colour accuracy? I use an Asus rog swift but its obviously aimed at gamers.
     
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    Color accuracy is crucial to me, because I edit video (and sometimes photography, but nothing complex) and playing around with color balance, brightness and contrast alot, a color accurate monitor will help me alot in creating a visually stunning video (I believe).
     
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    I trust Asus hardware. But my crazy question is - what surface is the palm rest? I'll be getting one for Xmas if they actually have done back to rubberized, or plastic. Yea, I know, I'm weird. I have cold, dry hands, so metal has been anathema to me.
     
  26. praetorianx

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    It's rubberized :)
    Anyway, ROG forum is down due to insane amount of spam, so here I am with some G-Sync news.
    Apparently, Asus Russia assures customers that G-Sync feature is supported by the whole G751 line up.
    Can Asus rep step up here and clear this up for all of us , once and for all???
    Would be greatly appreciated!
    Cheers
     
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    Technically the hardware supports it yes, but you need the right bios/vbios signatures to activate it.
     
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    First of all, sorry I dont have the courage to wade through 200 over pages of this thread. I had very good deal on G751 with GTX980 and I put down a down payment fr it.

    Its the variant with 8gb and no SSD. I plan to upgrade to 16gb and install SSD. The shop its going to do it for me. My questions are really basic:
    1. Any PC12800 memory should do ? The shop wanted to charge much more vs me buying the part separately. They mentioned that the memory need to be PC12800 L type (whatever that means). I found that there are few types with different prices on it. Should I listen to the shop advise or just buy any PC12800 memory ? This will be additional to the already installed memory which is 8gb
    2. Any SSD will do as long as 2.5 inch ?

    Any help/advice will be much appreciated
     
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    The "L" stands for "low voltage" 1.35v ram (1.5v was the old standard), there should not be a large price differential as it is the more common standard.

    Yes it is required to use the low voltage memory to guarantee stability.
     
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    thanks for the reply. How about the SSD ? Any SSD so long as it is 2.5" will do ? Thanks again
     
  31. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    They should all have 2x 2.5" bays in them so any SSD that form factor should work.
     
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    Thanks. I was kinda hoping they have M.2 pcie but after further reading, some models didn't come with the connectors

    Sent from my Lenovo X2-AP using Tapatalk
     
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    I wondered when they were going to change that, since technically to them they are wasting a connector as most users don't do this sort of thing.
     
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    I'm confused at your point, internal eDP and the panels have not been around THAT long, as the standards defining variable refresh rate have not been set either.
     
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    It seems that a mod was already released for old G751's to use G-SYNC:

    http://gamenab.net/2015/06/28/about-g-tools-beta-2/

    It only works with pre-350 drivers. I'll wait for a more stable release, but people have been testing it out and it seems to work for most people.
     
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    I was kind of expecting to turn out like this. Most probably the newer drivers will get updated too pretty soon.

    Looks like it's not worth paying the difference just for the g-sync model. IMO this was a ****ty marketing move from asus just to make a little bit more money. I'm still getting a JY.
     
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    It's Nvidia who are in control of the licencing.
     
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    I just installed ssd on this notebook. I only got 280mb/266mb read/write sequential and 176/199 read/write on random. Shouldnt the number much higher ? Like 500 ? What have I done wrong ? The SSD is SATA3, so it should be up to standard.

    Anyone care to shed some light here ? Thanks
     
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    The left bay (1) is sata3, the right bay is sata2. If you have used the sata2 bay that is quite close to the 300mb/second maximum.
     
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    Which is more like 270-280MB/sec after overheads.
     
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    Well they just jacked up the price on that item but mine still says shipping soon. Price was 1899 USD now its 2237 USD.

    Apparently nobody is very interested in this anymore though. Kinda surprised actually since this is getting the 980M at the 970M price.
     
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    I spotted that and ordered one too. . Hoping it actually ships, as I was waiting for the old g751jy for sub $2000 so would be great to get g-sync model and avoid having to hack. Seems like their pricing is going mental, as it shows $2237 down from $22,370!

    Ah well, at least being an Amazon seller you're covered I guess.
     
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    Yeah exactly, its the Gsync, 4720, 980M, with the 256SSD, 24GB, and Bluray for 1899. I'm surprised they left it up at that price for so long, about 12 hours. I kept checking because I knew they had to fix it but good thing we got in before they did and im sure 10 or more others did as well at that price.

    I bet somebody has some questions to answer in that office today lol.
     
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    Has there been any word on if the old models will have gsync support?
     
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    They wont as it costs money to get them validated plus it requires firmware flashing which Asus wont want large numbers of customers doing.
     
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    I'll be getting one of the new laptops with Gsync but since ordering read alot of the owners complaints about not getting it and it seems to me to be like this:

    Read Nvidia's marketing on Gsync on their website: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/g-sync

    G-SYNC
    NVIDIA G-SYNC is groundbreaking new display technology that delivers the smoothest gaming experience ever. G-SYNC’s revolutionary smoothness is achieved by synchronizing display refresh rates to the GPU in your GeForce GTX-powered desktop or notebook, eliminating screen tearing and minimizing display stutter and input lag. The result: scenes appear instantly, objects look sharper, and gameplay is super smooth, giving you a stunning visual experience and a serious competitive edge.”

    What that says is that Nvidia is selling for profit a software fix for a problem that is caused by their own hardware. The display doesn't cause it, it's the video card software and should really be given to anybody with a video card since it's a bug fix. I guess that is hard to do though since these older cards are already distributed and nobody is going to force Nvidia to recall their faulty product to flash them properly.

    PC video cards have been faulty for so long though that nobody seems to understand that "screen tearing and display stutter and input lag" are all a product of a faulty video card interface and should've been fixed years ago but nobody got around to it until now and instead of giving it to their customers they are calling it this exciting new technology (thats going to cost you a hundred or 2).

    IMO Asus and the other manufacturers should demand that Nvidia release the fix and allow their customers who own the same exact hardware to install Gsync themselves at their own risk of voiding their warranty.
     
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    Nvidia is the top dog in this deal, they have no competition from AMD so it is the machine manufacturers who can't force them to do anything.
     
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