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    Asus ROG G55 & G75 in April with gtx 670m

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Riddhy916, Jan 12, 2012.

  1. TheBluePill

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    Yeah, but it will be on the shelves of Best Buy and Sell like crazy. :rolleyes:
     
    TheBluePill, Mar 30, 2012
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    Yeah for shure. Asus have never offered any real gamer GPUs so why should they now? They offer "Gamer" notebooks for the mainstream, not the enthusiasts, thats why they sell so much like BluePill says.

    To be honest the G-series should not be put in to the "Gamers republic" catalogue Asus boast so proudly. It`s a bit misleading to be harsh.

    Asus have top notch cooling system in their G-notebooks, the notebooks are HUGE with tons of room, even for SLI setups. There have been NOTHING stopping them from including 570M, 6970M and 580M like "all" the other OEMs offered, but yet they didn`t. Why? The same reason you won`t see the GTX 680M inside any of the upcoming G-series notebooks: Cost $$$.
    It would interfere with their usual customers: The mainstream

    If they actually did this time around it would be great
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 30, 2012
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  3. ciddireblackire

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    All ASUS partners have received their Price lists and & PP forms today containing all the specs for the upcoming N & G series laptops.

    There is currently an Embargo Date on this unit.

    I will post all relevant info at the moment of the expiration of this date.

    Unless someone leaks it all.

    I had a really good convo with my ASUS rep & buyer today about this.

    Here's what they said:

    The ASUS ROG laptops are targeted at the mass market 'general gamer' not necessary the techie. The reason behind this is really the product demand. With ASUS it's all about market risk and right now the market isn't big enough to justify the cost to ASUS.


    ASUS is incredibly conservative as a company and will only jump on something if there's proven demand. (Note the Transformer Prime situation as an example) This is really due to their market size in EU and US. ASUS is still really small potatoes in these countries and they don't have the capital or production abilities as the larger tier 1s.

    I know there were talks about ASUS reentering the whitebook market but I haven't heard anything else on this.

    This market segment is fairly niche and I don't expect to see a huge change in ASUS's product lines unless consumer demand drastically increases.
     
    ciddireblackire, Mar 30, 2012
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    I'm not sure if this is legitimate
    [​IMG]
     
    sl0519, Mar 31, 2012
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    Looks good, but I suspect noise levels will suffer instead...
     
    Mackan, Mar 31, 2012
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    Can you tell us the date?
     
    hobblyjig, Mar 31, 2012
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    So it's 660 then, huh..... Was there G series Asus before with 2 choices for video card?
     
    praetorianx, Mar 31, 2012
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  8. fantomasz

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    One question.This new G75 will be better than MSI GT783 with gtx580?
     
    fantomasz, Mar 31, 2012
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    Good thing for you guys is that that you don't have to worry if asus is going to have 660m or 670m in g75 because even if they put low end gpu in g75 you have sager, clevo, alienware, msi in USA, i have only asus and alienware (the m17x laptop is 4000$) in my country, and i'm ing scared they will put 660m or 670m in g75 because that's my only option.
     
    SaberOne, Mar 31, 2012
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    Yeah I agree with everything they said to you. After all, the G-series are a huge success for Asus. High end is really a niche, yet come out as pretty mainstream looking at what the people at this forum have as hardware lol.

    One thing I wonder though: Why can`t they offer a notebook with two GPU choices instead of one? One with 660M and one with 680M while still catering for the mainstream? Im pretty shure it would be easy for them to fit a few more heat sinks inside the big chassis they usually have to make room for the 680M.

    G75 will still have dual fan, and the GTX 660M is rumored a 45W TDP, which puts it way lower than the 560M you find in G74 which is a 75W TDP. So it could actually end up more quiet. Plus the 660M is a good deal stronger than the 560M ;)

    Nope, not a chance. GTX 660M is around GTX 570M performance. However, IF they put in the 670M, the 580M is about 20% better. So not too far away
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 31, 2012
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    Everyone is complaining that 670m is weak and not much more than the 570m but what you aren't talking about is how these are optimus enabled which is a huge step for mobile gamers. If you want to use the laptop for school and gaming and work them the optimus will be a huge deal for such a powerful card. I can't wait to see final specs of these Asus and the new Lenovos. Ill probably end up with a clevo though as you get more for your money and I like the simple designs they use.
     
    micahmatthew, Mar 31, 2012
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    Hang on, isn't the 670M just a rebranded 570M which equals the 660M as you originally stated?
     
    iaTa, Mar 31, 2012
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    That is incorrect. The 670M have higher clocks than the 570M, so it is an overclocked 570M ;)
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 31, 2012
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    Closer than close.

    [​IMG]
     
    midzi, Mar 31, 2012
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    Im looking at this now




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    fantomasz, Mar 31, 2012
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  16. Cloudfire

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    ....And that is why Asus also need to include better GPUs with ther G-series. I know a lot of people who have switched company because of that :p

    GT783 is a very good notebook btw. Especially with that GPU :)
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 31, 2012
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  17. octiceps

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    Whatever ASUS' marketing strategy in their gaming notebook lineup is, at least they shouldn't mislead the public by slapping a Republic of Gamers logo on their notebooks. The ROG brand is really a hardcore, enthusiast brand, but the G-series notebook have become mainstream. All the other ROG products are really the cream of the crop (remember the monstrosity that was the Mars II dual GTX 580?)

    Also, whatever happened to competitive pricing after the G74 series came out? I clearly remember that laptops from MSI and Clevo with identical components have a lower price tag. Were you paying for a premium brand name (pfft) or what? You could build a better gaming system with a GTX 570M at places like Malibal and XoticPC for the same price as a stock G74.
     
    octiceps, Mar 31, 2012
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  18. ciddireblackire

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    There are multiple SKUs of the G75 that contain different GPUs.

    This was done to meet the complaint that there wasn't a unit that bridged the gap between mid-range and high end.
     
    ciddireblackire, Mar 31, 2012
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    I can only tell you I wasn't expecting to see the info for this unit this soon.
     
    ciddireblackire, Mar 31, 2012
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  20. praetorianx

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    By the time you are ready - nobody will be here anymore :D
     
    praetorianx, Mar 31, 2012
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  21. fantomasz

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    different mean nvidia and ati?
    give me gtx580 and I by it right now
     
    fantomasz, Mar 31, 2012
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  22. octiceps

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    No, just different Nvidia GPU's, e.g. GTX 660M and 670M.
     
    octiceps, Mar 31, 2012
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    Looks like the Lenovo Y580 have the exact same specs?

    BTW is it just me or does this look exactly like the Samsung RF series?

    edit: Why the heck is "prize" spelt wrong? If that's real someone at ASUS seriously needs an English lesson.
     
    cy007, Apr 1, 2012
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    A 180 watt AC adapter would probably last a lot longer than a 120 watt AC adapter, as it should run a lot cooler during long gaming / Folding@home sessions.
     
    ickibar1234, Apr 1, 2012
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  25. Gray Wolf

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    how will the new G75 compare to my G74? that slimmer design is really tempting me to upgrade if I can sell my current G74 at a good price
     
    Gray Wolf, Apr 1, 2012
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    Do you mean comparing performance between g74 and g75? I think I saw some unofficial benchmarks of 670m some pages behind, you could compare those against your g74. But I'd say we'll have to wait until the product is out to get some actual numbers.

    Edit: Couldn't find those benchmarks, but here's some info from notebookcheck.net of the 670m and 560m, you could compare those if u want.
    670m - http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-670M.72197.0.html
    560m - http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-560M.48313.0.html
     
    Nirneath, Apr 1, 2012
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    I got reply to my email from Metabox (custom laptops in Australia)
    They say that GTX 580M is no longer available and end of life.It has been replaced by the GTX 675M.So if G75 come wih this new graphics I take it.
     
    fantomasz, Apr 2, 2012
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    US will have two different models of G75, one with GTX660M and one with GTX670M.
     
    GenTechPC, Apr 2, 2012
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  31. praetorianx

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    Which one would you recommend , GT? Thanks
     
    praetorianx, Apr 2, 2012
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    Depends mostly on your needs, main criterion for me would be price to performance. I am somewhat disappointed from the fact that the only the
    660M is based on the kepler architecture, while 670M & 675M are slight modifications of the 570M & 580M respectively.
     
    mifili64, Apr 2, 2012
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    Ken? Ken!!!
     
    praetorianx, Apr 2, 2012
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  34. TheBluePill

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    You can get some great deals on those through the 3rd party builders right now.




    The GTX675M is significantly more powerful than the 670M. (30% faster, actually)
     
    TheBluePill, Apr 2, 2012
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    And the GPU isn't upgradable in the NVIDIA versions now? I know someone did that awesome 6970M upgrade for the 5850 versions..
     
    Gearsguy, Apr 2, 2012
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    Am I right in saying that the 660 will use a lot less power (and therefore lead to a cooler, quieter machine), at the cost of a modest performance penalty? I don't personally have to have the absolute fastest graphics card.
     
    Malgrave, Apr 2, 2012
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    I think the G75 with 660M will be a best buy model.
     
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    Actually, it's about 20% faster.
     
    Nirneath, Apr 2, 2012
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  43. TheBluePill

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    Actually, according to Notebook check, its 27% faster. HA! :p

    670M - 10985.5 - Vantage

    675M - 13926 - Vantage


    But.. well.. who is splitting hairs anyways..
     
    TheBluePill, Apr 2, 2012
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    @GenTech - G74 price drop coming?
     
    praetorianx, Apr 2, 2012
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  45. Nirneath

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    If you scroll down the page to the benchmark part, there is a comparison chart that shows that 675m is 21% better than 670m.

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675M - Notebookcheck.net Tech
     
    Nirneath, Apr 2, 2012
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  46. TheBluePill

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    27%, 21%, same Ballpark, depending on benchmark. The 675M is a good bit quicker, you must agree.
     
    TheBluePill, Apr 2, 2012
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  47. Nirneath

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    Alright, it's a bit quicker, I'll give you that ;)

    What? Seriously, the 5 benchmarks at notebookcheck shows that 675m is only between 5-21% better than 670m. Not higher? lol.
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675M - Notebookcheck.net Tech
     
    Nirneath, Apr 2, 2012
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    IF they can fit the 670M inside G75 they can also fit a GTX 680M inside too since they will probably be around the same TDP..

    But I reckon its not that its stopping them, but the price. Come on Asus, its not hard to offer two setups with the same notebook :p
     
    Cloudfire, Apr 2, 2012
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  49. TheBluePill

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    Not to beat a dead horse, but i was using their master list, Vantage Scores;

    Mobile Graphics Cards - Benchmark List - Notebookcheck.net Tech

    Now, the 3dMark 06 Scores are nearly identical..

    The 675 has 48 More Shaders, 22 More mhz Clock speed, slightly faster shaders and a 256 vs 192 bit bus.

    Either way, i would prefer to wait for a 680M before i spent any real money on an nVidia part in the near future.
     
    TheBluePill, Apr 2, 2012
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    Don`t look at the 3DMark06 score. CPU plays a big role in that score.

    Look at the 3DMark Vantage P GPU score since it is a pure GPU test. Around 27% difference between 670M and 675M
     
    Cloudfire, Apr 2, 2012
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