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    Asus ROG G55 & G75 in April with gtx 670m

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Riddhy916, Jan 12, 2012.

  1. TheBluePill

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    Yes. Still a small improvement.. and you get a thinner machine with the 75..
     
  2. AlwaysSearching

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    I think that is correct. It will be the 670.

    Hoping still that perhaps other options will be available but doesn't
    seem likely.
     
  3. praetorianx

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    I woke up today thinking about building a desktop
     
  4. Netherwind

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    I have an i7-920 and Radeon 4890 built for $1k a while back, it plays all the latest games still, just have to turn down settings a bit.
     
  5. tijo

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    Keep it to the G75 and G55 and related topics if possible. If you feel like discussing desktop in details we have a thread in off-topic for that and there are also the desktopreview forums of course.
     
  6. praetorianx

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    I'm just frustrated with what G75 becomes, that's all.
     
  7. fallensoulja

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    hey does anyone know what price range these laptops will be in? im thinking about selling my g74sx i paid 1200 and i can easily sell it for 1300 (ive only had it for 4 weeks now) and i figured its best to sell it now before the new ones come out.
     
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    Don't worry about, some level of off topic is allowed, i left the reminder, just in case to prevent this thread turning into a desktop discussion. ;)

    You're not the only one disappointed with the 670m, i still consider it a decent video card, but it's still disappointing to see Asus go with that for their flagship ROG laptop. A GTX675m is something i'd be fine with though.
     
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    fan filters? nice :)
     
  11. sarge_

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    There are more laptop manufacturers, you know.
     
  12. PredatoR_TR

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    i think we will have raid support this time :))
     
  13. DH48

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    Well the manual posted a few posts back says RAID 0 and RAID 1
     
  14. hobblyjig

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    So is there any chance the G55 will have the GTX 675m? Where is this info coming from?
     
  15. jonny27

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    Judging by the power adapter output in the manual (90/120W), very unlikely. Last known info says 660M and 670M for the G55 and G75, respectively.
     
  16. TheBluePill

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    Sounds like the G55 will be the better machine of the two. (Ligher, Cooler, still fast a a demon)
     
  17. octiceps

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    I agree. Preliminary information suggests that as far as performance is concerned, the GTX 660M should at least be pretty close to the 570M/670M, and it will definitely run cooler and more power-efficient given that it is an actual Kepler part.

    The 660M is definitely faster than the 560M; heck, even the GDDR5 GT 650M is faster than the old 560M in the newest DX11 titles from what I've seen, no doubt courtesy of the newer tech.

    I'm almost certain that Nvidia is going to release a GTX 680M in a few months; that would follow their trend in the last two years of releasing the mid-range mobile GPU of their newest architecture followed by the high-end.
     
  18. hobblyjig

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    Asus didn't put the 580M in their laptops. What makes us think they will put the 680M in the new ones when it comes out?
     
  19. TheBluePill

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    The power requirements for the 680M should be lower than the 670M/675M options currently slated for the machines.
     
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    So assuming Nvidia comes out with the 680M in a few months and Asus decides to put in their laptops. Its still going to be a while before Asus does a refresh don't you think?

    My guess would be that we won't see a G55 with a 680m until maybe the end of Q3 or Q4 of this year. Do you think I'm way off on that?
     
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    No. The GTX680m will be a 100w card.
     
  22. DH48

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    Haaa id like to see asus stick the 680m in it. They dont have the cuts to do something so wonderful. :p :D
     
  23. praetorianx

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    So when is NDA is over?
     
  24. hobblyjig

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    Ivy Bridge is out and so are the 600 series cards, so I guess you're talking about the laptops. Is there even an NDA? Or is there just no info available?

    I'd like to know if the G55 has the Thunderbolt port like the manual indicates it might. Also I'd like to confirm SATA III.
     
  25. octiceps

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    Oh, I'm sure ASUS is not going to put the GTX 680M in their G-series. I'm just saying it's a possibility for other laptop manufacturers due to Nvidia's trend in the mobile graphics sector in the last few years.

    And I don't see why the new G-series wouldn't have SATA III being that the older Sandy Bridge G73s and G74s already had it.
     
  26. TheBluePill

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    There has been absolutely no firm facts involving the 680M, including TDP., however, the 580M was a 100w GPU on a 40nm Process, i believe the new 680M will be 15-20% lower wattage, putting it within a few degrees of the 75w 670M they have in the G74... Should be lower than the 675M, which is a 100w part.
     
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    It was 100w because they were maximizing performance on 40nm, why wouldn't they maximize performance on 28nm and go with 100w?
     
  28. TheBluePill

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    They very well May Netherwind. I think it would be a good idea to keep it slightly lower TDP so that OEMs can offer it as an up-sell on more systems. The 580M was limited to just a few chassis because of the heat and power. Lowering that down, even by 20 watts, when coupled with lower watt Ivy Bridge parts, they can put that 680M in a much wider range of products.

    But.. they may go for the gusto and put out a killer 100w part again.
     
  29. @tilla

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    IMHO it's also price related.
    Asus won't do anymore SupaDupa-Highend-Gaming notebook.
    :p
     
  30. ciddireblackire

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    You don't know that for sure ;)
     
  31. @tilla

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    There is going to be no 680 in the G-series, for sure.
    Is Asus still on the way to solder their proprietory GPUs on the mainboard?
    Such rumors just for a Mainstream-Gamer. Sry, :p
     
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    I think its just ASUS's track record that points so much towards the GTX 660M. 675M will be left for those in between manufacturers like pre-built MSI's and Samsungs new gaming series (570M replacement), while the 680M will be for Sager/Clevo and Alienware as always. Unless Gateway decides theyre gonna make a super duper gaming computer (lol)
     
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    Defenetly not the 680m nor the 675m. As the 680m is to high end + it costs a lot. The 675 is a rebrand of the 580m. You can flash the 580 to a 675 easy.

    As @tilla pointed out asus has taken a step to the a solderd GPU.
    It costs more to make two different parts. I have no idea why they dont want a standard MXM. It might just be business to keep people buying new notebooks. Think about it for a sec if the notebook was like a AW then it would last for year just on upgrades.
     
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    Ivy bridge is not out, what are you talking about?
     
  35. TheBluePill

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    I can see that, but Asus has multiple SKUs for their G series laptops. Adding another higher margin SKU isn't so far fetched. But.. the Soldered on GPU is a huge limiting factor, i must say.
     
  36. Gerpur

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    One website had G55VW up for a brief moment, it is gone now though. It was G55VW-S1020V.

    It had i7 3610QM, 1600 MHz ram and gtx 660m. Otherwise main different from G53SX was that it had subwoofer, the AC-adapter output was 180 W (while G53SX has 150 W) and 3.8 kg (0.1 kg lighter). There were different connections and expansion as the manual someone posted before showed. There was some change in the size, think it was not as wide (maybe 0.5 cm or so) and little bit deeper (maybe 0.2cm), don't remember this 100% though :p
     
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    Sounds like one killer 15" to me.
     
  39. AlwaysSearching

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    It would need to be really attractively priced imo to sell.

    That is a heavy 15 (8.4lb) if that is accurate spec and not to great
    of gaming performance with the 660.
     
  40. Gerpur

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    It had the same price as G53SX with i7, but I won't believe it until they are out :D
     
  41. fantomasz

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    256bit graphics?
     
  42. Netherwind

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    No way, 45w(the 3612QM is 35w, not sure about the 3610QM) quad + 45w graphics = 90w power draw, all they need is a 120w PSU, 180W makes zero sense.
     
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    He was asikng about when info was coming out. All the info about ivy is out, sorry for the confusion.
     
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    Asus G75 is a LOT thinner than the G74. I like it :)
    Cheers

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    Comparison with G74:
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    Well, someone needs to let them know this a gaming machine and not a toy for grandmas who just play free cell.

    Asus needs to work some laptop magic and put a Kepler based 680M in there or they might as well not even update the thing.

    Also, I have the top lane.
     
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    Asus is the little boy that get bullied by the other kids right now. They were on the top earlier but now are only playing in the little league.

    Samsung have just announced a new notebook (series 7) with 7970M, Alienware offer both 660M, 675M and 7970M and later 680M. Same with Clevo. MSI offer 670M and will also join the other OEMs with 680M and 7970M. Even ultrabooks will feature GT 650M and 660M. 660M is rumored only around 45W. Asus could fit better GPUs than that inside their notebooks without making sacrifices.

    Its a shame to say it but Asus looks only after for Average joe, not gamers. They are faaar behind the competition.
     
  49. hobblyjig

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    So based on educated guesses about a laptop that hasn't been released yet, we've determined that a card that hasn't even been announced yet, will never be put into any future refreshes of the laptop? I'm no doctor, but I think there's room to be wrong in there somewhere.

    Edit: I have a feeling that if all the competition is rolling with 680's Asus will make it happen.
     
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    They didn't with the G74. They went with the 3rd "best" card in the line up. I could see a 670m in the 17".
     
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