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    Asus ROG G55 & G75 in April with gtx 670m

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Riddhy916, Jan 12, 2012.

  1. ReconFirefly

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    So with the 3D, is the 120hz for always or only for the 3D?
     
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    I can bet.you. How 7970 can be cheaper than 670M ? It's just not possible. You can't find anything better than asus for 1500$. It's optimal gaming machine.
     
  4. goldendice

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    3D just needs big refresh rate, so it comes with 120hz, all other models will be standart 60hz.
    I hate stupid markets. It's old info.
     
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    Wake up brother

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  6. ThwartAbyss54

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    Where are you going to buy yours from when its released? Amazon? GenTech? Powernote? etc.
     
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    @glodendice

    I know that, but is the 120hz used only in 3D mode, or is 2D also in 120hz opposed to the 60hz in the oter ones?
     
  8. Ze3ph

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    But if u add the windows 7 64bit OS it comes up to only 10 bucks less than the g55. And seriously, i would pay 10 bucks anytime for that g55 design over sager's. Also, the asus is better in terms of cooling and silence and if im not wrong, also its motherboard.
     
  9. tijo

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    They all have their pros and cons, the point here is that you can get more performance for a similar price and to some people it's all that matters. All Asus notebooks usually have a little something that needs fixing too, can't really say about Clevo as i've never owned one. It could very well be the same. Personally, i am disappointed by Asus' choice of GPUs, so even if i do like the style, i will probably end up getting something else when i replace my G73JH. I feel like Asus didn't get the same sweet spot that the JH had in terms of performance with the more recent G series revisions. They are still decent gaming laptops, that is for sure and at a good price, but they don't have the same bang for the buck that they had.

    The JH was riddled with POST launch issues though.
     
  10. Ze3ph

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    it wasnt more performance actually since the clevo was only using the 2nd gen i7, bluetooth 3.0, 500gb hdd, only 1 year warranty compared to 3rd gen i7, bt 4.0 750 hdd and 2 year warranty. i think everything else is the same since u can change 8gb 1600mhz to 12gb 1333mhz for free usually. but i get ur point. asus has its premium on the looks and since its well known for their cooling and silence, they are advertising it like crazy and bumping up their price for that. but around $1500 budget, i think this asus would be a good buy.
     
  11. tijo

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    The bottleneck in a gaming laptop is always the GPU so even if the CPU is slightly less fast, RAM speed really doesn't matter in but a few extremely rare cases and the HDD i always replace by a SSD anyways. Asus has the warranty going for it, but for the rest, from my perspective hardware wise it's got nothing.
     
  12. Ze3ph

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    g75 that was on that site b4 it was taken down due to asus embargo is the same price as the g55 with the gtx 670 (same as the one in clevo). so basically it has everything mentioned earlier over the clevo. and it comes with a bag and rog mouse while sager only comes with a bag if im not wrong. also, i was talking about 750gb vs 500gb means more bang for your buck. changing to ssd would probably go over budget. imho i dont see what that sager has over asus since the price comes up to the same with OS in it considering not just hardware but also design / less heat / silence.
     
  13. Ze3ph

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    all in all i think it comes down to which has more pros over the other since they end up with the same pricing with the OS and 12gb ram that i chose for the sager to match asus. pros that matters in my opinion that i find in the asus

    1.more reknowned motherboard (can cause very slight performance boost)
    2.better cooling
    3.less noise
    4.3rd gen i7 processor
    5.better design
    6.bluetooth 4.0 (vs 3.0)
    7.rog mouse
    8.longer warranty (by a whole year)
    9.bigger hard drive (750gb vs 500gb)

    dont take this the wrong way but i've been researching on getting a new laptop and ppl have talked and compared the clevo to the asus. i've done my research and found these reasons why the asus is better especially (and this is very important) for my budget of 1500 which i would think is the budget for quite some people here too. these are strictly my opinions and please list down the pros of the clevo over the asus in ur opinion. :)
     
  14. s2odin

    s2odin Merrica!

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    You must not have been around when Asus were plagued with the GSOD's.

    As you said, it's all personal opinion. As tijo has mentioned, Asus hasn't released something that hasn't needed major fixing right after release in a while...
    Here 183 pages for your reading pleasure.

    Just Google "Asus GSOD"
     
  15. Ze3ph

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    haha someone asked some posts ago if asus would go for ATI graphics. this might be why they didnt go for ATI for the last model and probably this year's model too. well u nvr know what might hit ur laptop no matter what model u use and from google it seems that it was ATI's driver's fault and not asus so any laptop with the same graphics card should experience the GSOD. i was juz comparing specs as on paper and yep, like i said... personal opinion. :D
     
  16. s2odin

    s2odin Merrica!

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    Well it was a 5870M in the JH series. Why were M17x R2's completely fine with two of these in Crossfire? Why were Clevo models completely fine with a single 5870M? It wasn't ATI's fault.

    What about the horrendous cooling on the G51 series? Ever use a G51? Some of the worst cooling ever.
     
  17. Ze3ph

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    it happened to desktops with 5800 graphic cards too. ATI released a new driver which caused the gsod and later released a hotfix for it. i guess from this it is clearly ATI's fault.

    this tells u that asus learns alot from their previous models. g51 bad cooling? next model comes out with one of the best cooling system. ATI caused gsod? next model doesnt use ATI at all.

    u r looking at this from a past vs present point of view. comparing what they have done in the past and punishing them now. samsung at one point was nearly going under due to bad products. now they produce the best phones. every brand has its flaws but i think being flexible and able to adapt quickly to change for the better is a very strong trait of any company.
     
  18. goldendice

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    Yeah 120hz is only used in 3D. No 120hz in regular 2D screens. They all are 60hz.

    G51 is very old one. And yeah cooling was worst part. But it had very attractive sticker on top of laptop ;DD. Asus somehow managed to improve cooling thing from G73 laptop series. G74 was a bit louder in idle, and G75 will hopefully be deadly silent.
     
  19. tijo

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    If you look at the more recent info about specs, i only see G75s with a 660m, feel free to point me to a source released in April that says 670m and i'll be one happy camper though.

    Also, i don't really see how Asus has superior motherboards to Clevo, sure they make great desktop boards and that experience probably helped them, but Clevo has been around making laptops for a long while too.

    Asus has more silent cooling, not better cooling, they get points for low noise, but the Clevos run as cool as the G series.

    3rg gen i7: Those are also coming to the Clevos.

    Bluetooth: Don't care, but others might

    Rog mouse: Not all versions come with it and also don't care i already have more mice than i can use.

    Longer warranty: I usually end up doing something that voids my warranty pretty quickly so again for me that isn't really important.

    Bigger HDD: Again, gonna replace this for a SSD and i don't need more than 500GB for the secondary drive on my notebook anyways.

    Asus still gets points for style.

    Of course, YMMV, but for me personally, Asus just isn't where it was back in 2010 when i got my G73JH.

    The G series are still great notebooks, but they are no longer the notebooks for me if i want a mobile gaming notebook.

    Regarding the GSODs, those were mostly Asus' problem and not ATI, Asus didn't respect the specs for standard MXM and they told ATI how to make the custom vbios for their version of the 5870m.It took a new vbios to fix the GSODs on the G73JH, not a simple hotfix.
     
  20. praetorianx

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    +1 right there :D
     
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    Im still thinking on which notebook to get either the G75 or the Samsung series 7 if you guys had to choose which one to get, and price wise does not matter to me you get what you pay for ive had bad luck with the g72 :D
     
  22. Kevin

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    The Series 7 is going to have the 7970M, right? Choose that one, all day.

    7970M = 2.5x the speed of a single GTX 660M. It's hard to argue against that massive of a power gap.
     
  23. goldendice

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    i would pay for samsung. I like power of 7970M, but i`m concerned about heat and noise. It`s the biggest question ever. performance or quality?
     
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    Well, I won't buy a laptop with a 660M in it. Same power draw as a 670M for less performance- no thanks. I rather even have a 650M, with close to its performance but nearly half the TDP.
     
  25. Ze3ph

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    powernotebooks had the g75 with 670 out for quite awhile till they took it down recently. hopefully price and specs would be the same when the asus embargo ends and they post it again.

    it'll hav 3rd gen i7 but not confirm if it'll be for a similar pricing yet.
    bluetooth, rog mouse and the longer warranty is just a plus for asus some might be interested in as i was just comparing the two machines (nvr know... might help some ppl decide on choosing their laptop :) ).
    also, as stated earlier ssd means more money.

    yep personal interest may vary but in the end its getting the laptop that you want that counts :D *working hard to earn money for this laptop*
     
  26. praetorianx

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    What's with you and ROG mouse? Last one was a POS . And that famous Asus warranty works well only if you are in US. Yea, I like Asus design, I don't like however that I'm getting a sub-par video card (660/670), when I can have 675 for the same price. And even then, I should proly wait till the end of May, when 7970 comes out for the same money most likely, cause that thing will smoke'em all. It has the same level of performance or higher as desktop GTX 560 TI... Now, that's fun.
     
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    Hello all great forum, I'm reading almost from the beginning, regards from Portugal.

    About G75 specs, I just reserved this model G75VW-T1066V from asus Portuguese distributor (not reseller). here are the specs

    17.3" FHD LED, i7 3610QM,16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1600,750GB 2,5" 7200rpm SATA + 256GB SSD,NVIDIA GTX 670M 3GB VRAM,BLU RAY RW 6x,Gigabit LAN / Wifi N / Bluetooth 4.0 / USB 3.0,Webcam CMOS HD -Teclado retroiluminado - Mochila e Rato Óptico - Preto,Windows7 Premium 64

    On the end before the OS is portuguese for retro-illuminated keyboard, backpack and mouse.

    Estimated arrival date 04-27-2012 to 05-04-2012 (can't wait :p )
     
  29. hackness

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    So there's a 670M version of the G75? Hopefully it's real.
     
  30. Hellsparrow

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    Actually I'm a reseller, and the distributor never failed me, so yes 670M on the way

    Sorry for the bad English
     
  31. Ze3ph

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    as i wrote, its a plus. free mouse vs nothing. i wouldnt mind giving it as a gift either. and i dont see it having the same price for the gtx675 if u get the win 64bit OS together with the sager since the g75 comes with win 64bit OS.
     
  32. goldendice

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    That mouse doesn't cost more than 60$, and backpack more than 75$. So everyone could and 130$ to their final laptop price, and offer "free" accesories. Cooling and design, newertheless are really worth price ;DDD.
    Offtopic - all most 1'000 posts, and laptop isn't out yet :D so much speculations and argues xD
     
  33. rezegen

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    So the highest graphic card on the 75/55 is only going to be 670m? Wow, what a shame.

    Definitely going for sager for my next laptop..probably with the 7990m :D
     
  34. rorkas

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    If what they say about 7970M is true than I really don't see a point in getting 670M for the same price, especially since 7970M doubles 670M performance.
     
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    Pre ordered the Asus G75VW-FS71 from Frys and 5 days later got a email saying We apologize but the item you ordered are currently out of stock and we are unable to provide a definite ship date at this time.
    Called and they have no info on if the g75 will ship on the 30th.
     
  36. Karamazovmm

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    just going to drop that the 7970m is 63% faster than the 6990m, which was already faster, by 25%, than the 570m.

    Im just going to say that asus lost their bang for the buck in 2011. They lost the power race in 2011, and arent even worried to get it back.

    If you want more style just get a m17x or a samsung 7, otherwise the clevos are just great.

    The 7970m launches 24th of april. According to a clevo reseller
     
  37. -token4g63-

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    100% Agree on that :D

    Wow! That's in a few days well its time for me to put my order in on the Samsung! :D
     
  38. Omniscient

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    I guess it may be time for me to retire the G73JH with eh 5870 and step up to the G75.

    I'm back out of hiding after nearly a year! Hope to get one of these this summer!
     
  39. hackness

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    That performance of the 7970M is tempting, but I'd like a laptop that comes with a 3D screen this time. I might just wait until GTX680M comes out and see.
     
  40. zode3445

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    ya 3d screen would be nice
     
  41. ThwartAbyss54

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    3D seems like a waste of money to me :)
     
  42. rorkas

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    But not to others
     
  43. octiceps

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    Holy ****!!! That 5451 GPU score in 3DMark11 is in between a desktop GTX 570 and GTX 580 and 75% faster than the GTX 580M!

    Imagine if I could swap out the Mobility 5870 in my G73Jh with one of these babies...
     
  44. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    We have another forum user that got one, he scored P5600 3d mark11 gpu only. All stock.

    The 570m scored around 2800 stock.

    The 6990m scored around 3500 stock.

    The 5870m scored around 2300 stock.

    Yeah for you it would a whooping improvement, its indeed one hell of a card, and I hope that the samsung 7 with it launches soon, its going to be a good thing to get some competition for asus, not that the 7970m competes with the 570m, heheheheehe
     
  45. ThwartAbyss54

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    That would be why i said to me with a smiley face :p
     
  46. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    Im just going to say 20k in vantage. and 7970m.
     
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    Sad that such a potentially decent laptop with great pricing, is crippled with mediocre last decade graphic cards(570m/670m is the highest end selection). The Mobile Gpu King the 7970m is well over 2x the performance of the 570/670m, and is a chump change upgrade on the top competitors A/W M17X, and Clevo. Still these Sexy Asus laptops will do a decent job at medium settings for demanding games, so it could somehow be worse in theory.
     
  48. goldendice

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    Please keep in mind that it is laptop, not a desktop. Portable, quite, cold, light weight, and for all that you can' t play few games(5-6) on ULTRA. Stick with high, or medium for 60 fps. Still there are thousands of games which can be playble max, and hardly any game that is going to show up this year will put this laptop to limit. Diablo 3, Far cry 3, maybe crysis 3 :D
    Remember it`s just a laptop, threat it like it need to be threated...
     
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    Im also interested in getting a new Gaming laptop but i keep reading about people complaining about the 670m being almost like the 570M. gets me thinking about just getting the old model. So out of both 570 or 670 which is better?
     
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    It doesn't change the fact that 7970M can be put in many laptops (including G55/75 if Asus wanted to) making it literally twice as powerful, hence prolonging its life significantly. Claiming that it's just a laptop doesn't make sense now. You can get 650M in 11" model that is literally half the size of G75 with only slightly lower performance. If I were to get truly portable machine I'd stick with 650M, but if I'm buying 8lbs gaming laptop, than settling for something like 670M just doesn't make any sense whatsoever (unless you are a huge fan of Asus design).
     
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