Asus ROG G55 & G75 in April with gtx 670m

What are you asking?

 

Hm, Gentech says the G75 will have the 670m...So that means the G55 will have a 660m? If it gets 4-5 hours of battery I'd be all for that. Provided it keeps pace with the 560m.

 

I think Gentech said one them has a GTX 670M but that does not confirm that the other one has a GTX 660M. It just means at least one of them has a GTX 670M which could be both of them for anybody knows.

 

Taking the Gentech post within the context of the post he quoted, and the subsequent post where he confirmed the G75 has the GTX 670M, it seems pretty clear that the G55 will not have this card.

Since the article in the OP goes on to say that Asus also has prepped at least one GTX 660M equipped machine, it doesn't take much imagination to figure out that this machine is most likely the G55.

It makes sense, with Asus' current trend towards gimping the power of the 15" machine's graphics. With 500M they only had the choice of limiting the speed of its 560M, while this time they actually have different tiers of power from which to choose.

 

Well, 660m should provide better-than-560m performance, in a lower power envelope than the 560m, giving us increased battery life (and maybe optimus?)

 

Optimus I don't think so.Are you sure it'll be 660m?670m? maybe 760m? (or maybe G56 and G76 will have...)

 

Isn`t the 670M rumored to be a 70W TDP? If that is true, then what is holding Asus back in putting it inside G55? 560M which the G53SW have is a 75W TDP...Perhaps the TDP of 670M is bigger then?

 

It's probably just marketing factors. Maybe the 670M costs more than they can afford to add to whatever price point they've chosen for the G55. Knowing Nvidia, the prices of the faster chips are going to increase in a very rapid fashion.

I can't see the TDP being any higher than 75W, if Nvidia is still going to squeeze both the 675M and 680M under 100W.

Also, do you have a copy of the chart which showed the rumored 600M TDP numbers?

 

Ah, good thinking. Didn`t think about the pricing
Yeah, it being under 75W when two other will be under 100W makes sense. I guess they can "settle" with 660M although I`m a bit sceptical about the 128bit vs 560s 192 bit. They must atleast be shure that it will be a "good" upgrade from the 560M before slapping it inside a Ivy laptop and calling it a day

No I don`t have the chart. I remember reading about it somewhere in this forum. Can`t remember where. Maybe the Sager forum?!

EDIT: Is this it? A "minor" typo with 675M and 680M with TDP

Here is another one I stumbled over..
11000 in 3DMark Vantage with 660M. 560M scores 9150 in average (P result. P GPU with 560M is 8000)

 

Correct, G75 will have GTX670M and G55 will come with GTX660M.

It's good they finally use something different on their Gaming series and not stick with same card all the time.

 

Lol there was no way Nvidia's mobile GPU's were going to come out before AMD's die shrink, AMD is roughly 8 months ahead, which is probably why we're going to see 670m/660m first, it was rumored that Nvidia wouldn't be able to launch the 680 first due to yields.

 

I don't know but I think NVIDIA is on track for a Q2 2012 release of the GTX 660M/670M.

GT 630M link:

ASUS K43SM and K53SM - LaptopVideo2Go Forums

If it's true then NVIDIA knows where the market is going and targeting mainstream/high end laptop GPU's first to compete with tablets and other mobile devices.

Desktop users can wait but mobile laptops users have so many other options come this Q2 2012 with Android 4.0 already released and Windows 8 tablets on the way.

 

High end laptop buyers aren't interested in tablets. Android or otherwise. Windows 8 is still a long way away and laptops with 660m/670m are such a small segment of the market compared to the laptops with the 520m's and integrated graphics.

 

Thought the new G55 gpu would come with 3G of ram, but even the 17" model isn't going to have it, according to that posted chart.

Anyone find that disturbing?

Thinking of saving money and going with a G53.
Really like the G74 but it's just too big for all around use.

~Shawn

 

Wonder what the unit prices for the GPUs will be?

 

I wasn't talking about high end GPU's just Kepler in general. Laptops in general are selling a lot more than previous years but Tablets are also taking away a lot of the market share for mobile internet devices including laptops.

So for NVIDIA and AMD to get newer mobile GPU's on the market sooner always means a good thing where as for desktop users it really doesn't matter since desktops are all pretty much user serviceable and upgradable by the user and not exactly threaten by mobile devices such as Tablets maybe only laptops.

Anyhow, I'm pretty much interested in AMD's Trinity offering too. I'm almost certain the the highest end Trinity APU will have an option for a discrete AMD GPU (most likely HD 7750M) which should just a fast as the GTX 660M and maybe if AMD gets Hybrid CrossFire right then there's a lot to look forward to in the upcoming months for the mainstream gaming laptops market.

 

I'm planning on buying a laptop by April ideally, but what are your thoughts on a G55 price and how big do you guys think the g53sx/g74sx will drop in price?

(or clevo's with 560m atm)

 

If i had to guess, the G55 will be a direct replacement for the G53 in several ways, as it will likely be the exact same price (or perhaps slightly less expensive).

The G53 Might drop a couple hundred bucks when the 55 Hits, but these machines are in fairly low supply.. they might even be out of stock by the time the 55 hits the shelves.

So to answer your question. If you wait a little while, you might be able to pick up a 53 for a little cheaper.. but.. if not, just pay the full price and get the 55.

You won't need 3GB for a 1080p display.

 

gtx670M compares to what in desktop lineup?

 

No way to be accurate, as its not out yet.

Historically, they are about 1/2 the speed of the desktop part;

If you take the GTX 570M and Compare it to the GTX 570 Desktop Card;

Desktop / Mobile

Shaders: 480 / 336
Core Clock: 732 / 575
Shader Clock: 1500 / 1150
Mem Clock: 3800 / 3000
Fill Pixels: 29 / 14
Fill Textures: 44 / 32
Bandwidth Ghz: 152 / 72
Bus: 320 / 192
Gflops: 1400 / 773

Basically.. a little better than 1/2 the power..

And that is repeated all across the lineup.. give or take..

In practical Terms, the current 580M is roughly as fast (slightly slower) as a bone-stock GTX 560 Desktop card.. and the 570M is about the same as a 555 GTX, and the Current 560m is about par with a 545 GTX..

 

i might sell my G73 and get this one.
But i will have to have someone here actually compare them to the G73JH.
See if it is worth to upgrade. Because on 2012 won't be many game that i will pay attention for.
Probably Ghost Recon Future Soldier and that's it. When i don;t like the idea about Battlefield 2143 and a ty from Treyard while MW3 and BF3 run well on G73.

 

So no DisplayPort on these new models again, which means one cannot hook them up to an external 120 Hz screen ? Or am I wrong?

 

Any HDMI 1.3 capable device with a quality HDMI cable can output 120Hz. DP allows for higher resolutions, that may be what you are thinking of?

 

But not at full HD. It's limited by the HDMI single link bandwidth.
Only a dual-link DVI cable supports 3D (120hz) at full HD.

 

From what I've heard it's either dual-link DVI or DisplayPort 1.2 that's needed for the 120 Hz HD external screens. Too bad that's not available on these machines.

 

But also mentioned earlier in this thread, there is an 'unspecified' port visible in the video. It might be DP. I guess, it's not Thunderbolt. ^^

Look at the pictures on site 1. On the right next to the 2 USB3.0 ports.
edit: Oops, the female in the vid said something about firewire. Nobody needs firewire today at a Windows gaming notebook. Or is she wrong? I dunno.

 

The new 3GHz HDMI chips support 120Hz FHD.

I doubt it will have one of those though, plus there aren't yet any screens which have them either.

 

Yeah, the external screen or TV would need to support this new standard too.

 

It's not unspecified - when you turn on the audio they say it's a firewire connector.

 

Yes, i'd edited my post.

 

This isnt strictly gaming related but just saw this article.. the N56 and N76 were recently announced and allegedly they're sporting a 670m! Thats a 670m in asus's entertainment lineup which previously had a 555m..

It seems to good to be accurate, but if it is, could this mean we might be looking at 680m in the gaming lineup..??

relevant links..

ASUS to debut the N56 and N76 notebooks - Notebookcheck.net News
ASUS N56 15.6-inch Laptop
ASUS N56 15.6-inch Laptop Specs, Revealed | Eee PC

 

if G75 will have the same card as N series -..... it just doesn't make any sense. I hope G will get at least GTX675M then

 

I guess if this is true then the G75 will have to have a GTX675m at least. Similar to the Samsung gamer series 7 laptop.

 

But the man from Gentech has explicitly confirmed that the 670M is in the G75, so I can only question whether the N56 is really going to have the same GPU.

It seems strange from a marketing angle, because you'd be taking some of the luster away from your gaming line. The GTX 660M makes more sense, or even the GT 650M.

 

The n76 will most definitely not have a 670m. This must be a mistake by the author. Why can we be sure? Look at the size of the laptop, there is no way to cool 70 watt. Also, there is no point for an expensive high end gaming card in a multimedia laptop.

I think the 670m in the g55/g75 is just fine. The 680m is just too expensive and needs too much cooling.

 

Perhaps so. But i must say, the design on the N76 is much more palpable than the G series..

 

Just an fyi in case you missed it, the G55 is shipping with the GTX 660M.

 

Windows 8 is still Windows 6. It's the same basic OS. Most of the differences are cosmetic-I HOPE that the new interface isn't as radical a change as it seems. I'd be more worried but Windows 7 turned out great, and it's changes seem questionable ahead of time.

 

I don't think it will be quite so radical. Its more like active widgets in the background.. with the rest of the OS more or less regular windows.

 

And sounds like they're eliminating the start menu-which at first sounds scary, but actually it's just being replaced by something very similar, if I understand right?

And what IS a GTX 670m? And will the G75 really have it? Oh man, I really need to hold out for the G75... :-D

 

We'll find out the 670M's exact details at CeBIT, which runs from March 6 to 12.

Asus, MSI Alienware, Clevo.... everyone will be there, showing off their new gaming notebooks.

 

I'm looking forward to that. Hopefully we'll have some cool surprises.

 

Fingers crossed.....Let it have MXM slot ....Let it have MXM slot.....Let it have MXM slot

The more i see the G74 and G73 hybrid design the more im starting to like it Lets hope that the G75 is something to wait for

 

I want raid support! do that ASUS! and put inside this monster gtx675m!

 

Yes, missed that. Where did it say so?

 

Here.

 

Ok, might be. Thx. It's the first time I hear this, all the other hands-on or whatever just talked about the 670m. But they might just have missed it. We'll see

 

ARGH...the GTX 670 sounds like it's going to be a monster, right?

Geez...I'm half drooling over this thing, half scared it's going to use Optimus

 

Mhmh , makes me want to sell my laptop now it's still in a great shape.

 

100% sure? G55 won't have GTX 670M ?