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    Asus ROG G55 & G75 in April with gtx 670m

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Riddhy916, Jan 12, 2012.

  1. Netherwind

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    Rumor just put that the 670m is actually a lower clocked 570m, but it's just a rumor right now, treat it as such, G55 will have a 660m, 100% guaranteed.
     
  2. Kevin

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    No, it has higher clocks than the 570M:

    GTX 670M:

    [​IMG]

    GTX 570M:

    [​IMG]

    I hope this doesn't mean the GTX 660M is just another 560M..... oh dear, this could get ugly.
     
  3. sarge_

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    You mean "another 460m". If that is true, I can see the tag-line now. "All the amazing power of a 5870m, four generations later."
     
  4. Kevin

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    I've done some looking around. Every press mentioning of the GTX 660M explicitly notes it as being Kepler, so I think we are safe on that one.

    Well, sorry to everyone I told the 670M would be faster than the 580M.
     
  5. sarge_

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    Well, screw Asus then. Samsung and MSI are already sporting 580m's and will be offering the 675m, and Sager is bringing the 680m.
     
  6. Netherwind

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    If the 675m is keplar and not a rebrand, it will be pretty stellar, but the codenames...
    GTX 670M=N13E-GS1-LP
    GTX 675M=N13E-GS1

    If the 670m is a rebrand, the 675m is almost surely a rebrand if that above information is true.

    Clevo's laptops are going to support Optimus, too, that might be a better route all around.

    EDIT: Just confirmed as fake, look at device ID's for both pictures, then look up a 460m and 560m (different device ID's)
     
  7. octiceps

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    I hope these turn out to be fake. I would be very disappointed if these turn out to be the real specs.
     
  8. praetorianx

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    Should i wait for G75with GTX670M or get Sager NP8170 with AMD 6990M?
    Please advice
     
  9. Netherwind

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    No matter what you get I'd advise waiting till April, there will be new GPU's and CPU's regardless of if you go Clevo or Asus.
     
  10. octiceps

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    Well if the specs for the GTX 670M turn out to be those in the pictures above, then you would really only be getting a rebranded GTX 570M. In that case the Radeon 6990M would be the better choice.
     
  11. TheBluePill

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    Even if NVIDIA plays the re-brand game, the AMD GPUs with the CGN IS an improvement in the Mobile Space. Waiting for the .28nm AMD GPUs is probably a good idea. If things hold true, like i think they will, the 7970M will perform on-par with the 7850 Desktop Card.

    The HD 7850 Desktop Card is: 850MHz / 22SIMDs/1408ALUs /88TMUs/32ROPs/ 256bit GDDR5 5.2Gbps 166GB/S /2GB/ TDP 90W
     
  12. praetorianx

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    yeah, i'll wait then, IPad 3 till May for me(
     
  13. octiceps

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    That would be aweome, but ASUS isn't going to put AMD GPUs in their gaming laptops, so if someone wants to get a new generation mobile AMD GPU they're gonna have to look elsewhere.
     
  14. TheBluePill

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    True that. Kind of a shame, but i can understand.
     
  15. octiceps

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    I don't understand why ASUS can't go back to AMD especially seeing that mobile AMD cards are cheaper than their comparable Nvidia counterparts. Just compare the 6990M with the exorbitant price tag of the GTX 580M.
     
  16. sarge_

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    3D.
     
  17. Kevin

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    So it appears they are not direct retreads; they are actually 28nm versions of the 500M series cards.

    So die shrinks of Fermi, but not anything to do with Kepler architecture.

    Still seems pretty lame.
     
  18. Nemix77

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    Interested, looks like my kind of ASUS 17.3" laptop with a GTX 670M (slim and light) other than a new Qosmio refresh with GTX 670M.
     
  19. gamba66

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    Source?

    Id highly doubt though they rebrand again, im pretty sure they atleast die shrink the 600m series
     
  20. TnF

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    where the heck is the e-sata???
     
  21. Kevin

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    Well, the truth is front and center now:

    [​IMG]

    Straight up rebrands, no die shrinks or anything.

    Yay Nvidia?
     
  22. Eclipse251

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    A rebrand?!? Oh well, at least its still a high end card.
     
  23. Abula

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    What about the GTX680m, is that going to be real Kepler? or just an OC GTX580m
     
  24. sarge_

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    So the and 670m and 675m are a rebrand of a rebrand. Great.
     
  25. octiceps

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    Before said graphics cards materialize, I would take anything being said/shown here with a grain of salt. But if this turns out to be true come April... :mad:
     
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    Can say very disappointing but still better than a GTX 570M.
     
  28. Wolfpup

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    I was really surprised when people were saying new cards were coming soon. Thought we'd have heard about that by now.

    But still, it's a faster card than what the G74 has now, and....well, okay, it's 4% faster than the previous version, but still LOL

    Just hope it doesn't have Optimus. If it does, I won't be buying it, if it doesn't, I might buy one to replace my G74 (which is now Folding 24/7 on the CPU and GPU).
     
  29. kurtcocaine

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    Sigh.. After gaming exclusively on notebooks for the past 7 years.. This is the first time i'm having to contemplate shifting to a desktop...
    I really hope AMD does better (much better) with its high end GCN mobility lineup.. otherwise I might be saying goodbye to notebook gaming.. sniff

    I hate you nvidia and Ati for this!!
     
  30. DH48

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    What he said :D


    Thats asus for you. Buy new notebooks every year ........ Asus is really starting to do business like motorola started doing a few year back. New models every month...... but what was inside was mostly the same as the last model. Yes some parts were a bit faster and better but still 2-5% was better :D you paid the same price for the same phone with a different design.
     
  31. Wolfpup

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    Why? I mean nothing's changed... Notebooks always lag behind desktops, and these are still solid parts.
     
  32. octiceps

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    It's essentially the same thing, only the name has changed. I'm counting a 23 MHz core and 45 MHz shader increase compared to the 570M. Any fool with overclocking software can do that on a 570M, and come to think of it, it's not really that hard to OC a GTX 560M to perform on par with this "new" 670M either. People with their G74SX's do it all the time.
     
  33. kurtcocaine

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    I agree they lag behind but the gap more or less remains the same with every generation. With this generation of nvidia cards, the gap has grown a LOT. I can reach almost similar performance levels with my now 2 year old g73jh-a2(with the 5870m).

    I have always bought gaming notebook with usually the second most powerful card on the market at that time. I have updating my notebooks almost every 2 years, usually making the new purchase right after the new architecture is implemented.
    Whenever I have updated my gaming notebooks in the past, I did so with the point of view that I would be able to play most games on high-highest settings for that year and usually med-high settings as more demanding games come around the next year. Then update the notebook before i'm forced to start running games at low-med.
    This usually meant atleast about 30-35% increase in gaming performance with each new purchase. This time around, I hope to gain maybe 10%-12% over my current setup, which is just unacceptable.
    Granted my machine still runs most games on med-high but that's due to the slow down in game requirements due to the advancing age of the consoles..

    My point is, that for anyone who got a g73 or a g74 (i.e people who believe in purchasing reasonably priced gaming machines which mostly have the med-high end card), there is absolutely no reason to update to this 6xx lines of card. The performance boost seems to be so negligible..

    I am really hoping the GCN mobility cards bring in a much better performance boost. (Though its unlikely seeing as this generation of amd card focuses more on the architecture change rather than the performance increase..)
    My prediction would be that 5870m equivalent on the 7xxxM lineup(assuming they use the new architecture) would be ~20% faster.
    This based on the fact that ~20% is the performance difference between the desktop 5770(which the 5870m is based on) and the desktop 7770(which will in all likelyhood for the base of one of the higher end cards in the 7xxxM lineup..)
     
  34. Abula

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    I agree with most of what you said, specially on the GPUs, i been wishing a GTX580m for some time, just its way to expensive, none the less its twice the performance of my current GTX460m, i guess ill have to dish more money this time arround to get some boost on the gpu side or wait till haswell, maybe by then we can see mobile keplers :(. Still i wished i could get a sata III ssd, more usb3 ports, i hate transfering big movies with only 1 usb3 :(. I guess ill wait to see the pricing, maybe nvidia rebranding the GTX6XX series will lower its prices some.
     
  35. praetorianx

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    So you dont think it's worth to upgrade from G73A2 to G75? What to get then?

    edit: santech.it has it already and it seems that it comes with optimus.... waiting for something official. this rumour game smells
     
  36. AhPek00

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    stick with the current G73/G74 :D
     
  37. imglidinhere

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    As just a reference to the this as the original speculation. (this news might have already been noted on buuuut....) The 670M is a rebrand through and through, apparently, of the GTX 570M and the 675M is the 580M. Not sure if this is true, but I am merely reporting my findings from the post I saw over at Overclock.net. :confused:

    Here's the source they got it from: N?M????????????670M?675M??570M?580M??? - ????? - CHIPHELL - ???? ???? - Powered by Discuz!

    Here's the thread about it in the Rumors Section: [Chiphell] Specs of GTX 670M and GTX 675M leaked.

    I personally don't believe Nvidia would think to do this... however, we've seen in the past how well a notebook will sell if marketed correctly. All those GT 520s with 2GB Vram... >.<
     
  38. QuadJunky

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    What if you have a G50 wait on G75 or grab a G74? :D
     
  39. Eclipse251

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    Well the G75 will still have the better card. But on the other hand, the G74 will probably be a lot cheaper soon...
     
  40. AhPek00

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    wait...what? G50? grab a G74 straight away! :D :p
     
  41. Wolfpup

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    The only reason I'd get a G74 instead at this point is if the G75 ends up using Floptimus :(
     
  42. ciddireblackire

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    ASUS release full photos of G75 series today:

    Note ALL USB 3.0 ports, HDMI out, Thunderbolt. Also they added Numlock key

    [​IMG]

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    [​IMG]
     
  43. praetorianx

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    those metal inserts doesn't belong here me thinks, but thanks for the pics mate
     
  44. kurtcocaine

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    I dont think thats thunderbolt.. its Firewire

    and touch pad a bit too far on the left, isnt it? Will interfere with typing or using the wasd cluster (if its left on)
     
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    If we compare this two pics, the G75 is much more thinner.

    Asus G75
    [​IMG]

    Asus G74
    [​IMG]
     
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    This is great, but i hope it will the keep that awesome cooling system being so thin.
     
  47. DH48

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    Lets hope they have gone back to MXM but as it is much thinner i think it is built in. :(

    But does look nicer then the G74 :)
     
  48. ciddireblackire

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    It's thunderbolt.


    I can't tell you how I know
     
  49. kurtcocaine

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    Hmm youre right.. my bad.. It does seem similar to firewire but a quick google image search proved otherwise..
     
  50. Wolfpup

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    Yeah, that's worrying. The G74 is fine IMO, and the cooling system I know for a fact is awesome...because as of today I've been running Folding @ Home on the CPU and GPU at 100% for an entire MONTH, and it not only handles it without breaking a sweat...the CPU has overclocked itself 500MHz apparently the whole time. THAT'S well built!

    Any idea if it uses Floptimus? :(
     
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