Asus ROG G701VI - Air-cooled single GTX 1080 laptop

manufacturers are allowed to change TDP of the GPU

asus, msi, clevo all have tdp UP
some stay the default tdp like alienware, HP
where did razer go?

oh right, down to the trash

 

Lol just saw a RBP firestrike under 13,000. My Clevo beats that... And I'm still pretty restricted with the stock bios.

 

115w is default for 1070
150w is default for 1080
85w? 90w? is default for 1060

they're following guidelines for bone stock, that's alright

razer is not, they're making the 1080 worse

 

2 Hours of Gaming (Overwatch)

Stock GPU Clocks w/ CPU at 45x
After LM treatment.



Repost: This is before repaste...I'll get some runs in now that it is LM'ed.

wPrime v1.55

Link to hwbot:
32M - 4.656 sec
1024M - 142.874

7820HK

http://hwbot.org/benchmark/wprime_-...Id=processor_5360&cores=4#start=0#interval=20

http://hwbot.org/benchmark/wprime_-...Id=processor_5360&cores=4#start=0#interval=20

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ASUS ROG G701 G701VI-XS72K GTX 1080 17.3" 120Hz GSYNC Display Kabylake Gaming Laptop Review

 

Overclocked Desktop GTX 1080 LAPTOP??

 

Updates​

 

Please help both have iPads asus g701vi be lifted me definitions apparatus on lifting sites because I lost some definitions and programs from Laptop after formate Hard completely lost section Alrikfra After installing Windows clean and to download the definitions from the company's website shows some of the programs do not work like SetupSonicSuite_R2 program, which Atnsb by definition sound and when I install definition this message appears installation could not proceed the device supported please help and thank you

 

Hi guys, new user here.

First time i buy a performance Laptop, i always had a really beast desktop and an ok laptop. Since im travelling a lot for work now i just bought the G701VI-XS72K.

I notice that most laptops have overheating issues and that the easy fix would be to repaste the CPU and GPU.

I see that LM is the best options but don't really want to do it myself. I was wondering if someone located North East would be able to do it. I am located in Montreal.

Thanks

 

just received mine today, what are you guys benchmarks at for firestrike?

 

It's been pretty quiet here, and it would be nice to see some of you "go for it" with the tuning - undervolt and OC to get best performance.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/19422760?

this is my benchmark from today. are any of you guys leaving the fan on auto and not noticing it ramp up when playing games? mine is just chillin and my cpu is around 90c and i ahve to manually turn on fan boost

 

I can't answer for other owners, but in general when doing benchmarks, I always turn on 100% fans - to give it the best shot at cooling - I am after all overclocking and undervolting, and I want to remove anything that blocks me from getting the best results.

You can play with tuning the fans later, after you find the top end tuning under best (100%) cooling.

One of the things that 100% fan cooling helps is cooling down the whole laptop and getting rid of stored heat. So when you go from 0% / idle to 100% heaviest load / power consumption the fan's don't need to ramp up - quite often you will register "thermal throttling" immediately as the fan's aren't running fast enough from idle to dissipate the heat quickly enough to stop thermal throttling.

When I am on auto fans, and benchmarking - sometimes peace and quiet is best - I use the "reset" button on hwinfo64 to reset the initial "thermal throttling" reading - after waiting for the auto fan curve to respond, and then typically I don't get the "thermal throttling" again.

Quite often when helping people debug "thermal throttling" problems this turns out to be the whole issue - they are on auto fan, kick in 100% CPU / GPU, and before the fans kick in 100% effectiveness the monitoring program registers "thermal throttling", yet never see's any thermal throttling again after that initial hysteresis in the cooling system.

 

AH thanks Scott. do you any chance have an issue with low volume on windows 10? For some reason everything is maxed out but sounds quiet

 

Yeah, again I don't run Windows 10 since release - I was on it for a long time during the original Insider's developer phase, but since then I've elected to wait until Windows 10 stops messing itself

In general low volume can occur in Windows due to settings in a number of stages in the audio chain.

Check the Sound entry for your device, Configure and Properties - properties is where you set the device output Levels and Enhancements - I enable "Immediate Mode" checkbox, and at the bottom of the scrollable list is "Loudness Equalization" and enabling that really kicks up the output volume

Then moving forward through the audio chain, still in Properties, uncheck the "Exclusive control and application Priority boxes so that setting a volume in the 1st application opened with audio output (even a browser) won't affect other applications - I've seen volume in Youtube affect DVD volume when these are selected/deselected - you'll need to play around to find out how Windows 10 is divvying control.

And, then there is the audio control in driver tools like Realtek, and sound shaping tools like Nahimic (MSI) - Asus has this too... name?, all of these contribute in some way to the volume.

Have fun

 

still no luck if i open sonic studio and do audio the EQ will apply and volume will be loud and then will reset right away

 

Yeah, you can actually set/unset Loudness from several locations with the right mix of software.

Try opening all the dialogs with access to the loudness setting and watching as you set it in one, as it changes it in another.

You probably need to go to that Sound control Panel => Properties => Advanced - and unclick exclusive / priority access - and maybe even reboot.

 

finally figured it out..had to access supremefx and enable sound effects - loudness eq and equalizer powerful...cant believe supremefx is hidden lol

 

Ah yes...it sure is haha. Can you open up task manager and see how much resource all the audio apps are eating up?

 

Here are some goodies...





Before:


wPrime v1.55 run before repaste:


After:

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Watch for settings to get unset / changed between reboots too

 

yeah I can; what exactly should I look for?

 

Holy crap; is that after the LM repaste? I was playing playerunknown battlegrounds and when I left the fan on auto temps were going around 90-95c. Is that normal? Seems like I have to turn on speed boost max for fans every time I play intensive games. Cause auto fans seems to not do it itself.

 

Yes, that's after LM along with a nice long talk with it.

I told it that it better behave and perform like it should being that its college tuition is much higher than others.

I always run on max fans when gaming, because it makes no sense to keep it on stock fans when they will be spooling up anyway.

90C's is way too high and this laptop like any other gaming laptop needs to be Repasted.

"A repaste is not an option, it is mandatory."

This Asus has the best heat sink tolerance I've seen in any laptop. It's fan freakintactic. Incredible.

My core differentials are literally even. Perfect fit like a glove.

Also, Repasting the Asus is a breeze. There's nothing to it. Of course there's the technique that's important, but getting the heat sink off is just as easy as my xps 15.

Heck, accessing the ram and M.2 on the back side of the mobo (keyboard) is the tedious part as you will have to remove the entire mobo and getting the edp cable clipped back on is a pain in the rear. Such a thorn.

I'd highly encourage you to repaste. You can do it.

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::iunlock::

 

darn i wish you had a made a video when you repasted. im scared to do it with liquid metal.but i might have to. and yeah the laptop is only getting ocassional spikes with playerunknown battlegrounds, all the other games are fine at about 85c or so at max fan speed. but of course lower is better. which LM did you use and any tips or anything? i saw someone do it with electrical tape as well as a precaution. also did you delid your or anything?

 

wait, whats the difference between this and the g701vik model>\?

 

Hey iunlock, which LM do you recommend? And do I need any thermal paste or electrical tape when doing it?

 

Hey guys, just got this laptop and was wondering what did you guys run for 24/7 clock settings and if you use the asus software or something else to overclock.

I'd also like to know if you can unlock the power target of the GTX 1080 at all.

Thanks.

 

There should be a button above num pad that has an Asus logo and that will open the Asus gaming center. You can select to run at extreme settings which will overclock both

 

Grizzly Conductonaut.

Also, follow my guide for the AW 17R4 here...all the general info applies as for the tape etc...

 

Thanks.

Do any of you have the issue where everytime you try to install something, an annoying popup saying "Search for app in the app store" YES/NO. I have the default windows 10 pro. IT IS so annoying.

Do any of you have good settings for overclocking/undervolting ?

 

Hey Iunlock did you manage to unlock the power target of the GTX 1080 on the G701Vi? and what do you use for 24/7 stable overclocks?

Thanks

 

Any guidelines how to start OCing and Undervolting? What software and stress test do you use and from where do you start?

Thanks a lot.

I have the XS72K with the 7820HK

 

I was hoping someone with a G701VI would speak up, anyone out there?

"Is this thing on?!?" @iunlock I know you are doing other things right now, maybe you can swing back here and help out @destyown ? I'll post your video until then...

Let's see if that helps

Otherwise I can give generic info...

First Explore Asus own ROG tuning software, it's got builtin help, and should be pretty straightforward.

If that's not enough, check out Intel Extreme Tuning Utility, or as more commonly known "XTU" for CPU undervolting (possible on HQ and HK models) and CPU multiplier changes - if you have an HK processor that has unlocked settings.

For GPU tuning Asus again has their own tools, but on Asus I have also used MSI Afterburner + RTSS to get on screen viewing of system info and FPS readings.

Remember to only use 1 tuning tool at a time, and either disable startup of the Asus tools or uninstall them before using XTU and AB/RTSS.

Undervolting is the first thing to do, to give your CPU cooling a fighting chance, and remember to start 100% fan mode for heavy duty benchmarking - the auto fan curves don't respond quick enough to fast increasing thermal changes - you'll briefly see thermal throttling before the fans ramp up to 100%.

And, remember, this is supposed to be for fun, so reduce stressing out over this stuff and have Fun

 

Asus ROG G701VI - Kaby Lake 7820HK - GTX 1080 - Getting Ready...

 

I have such bad luck with XTU. I can create 2 separate profiles without any problems (OC and UV) and when i switch them manually it works without any issues but as soon as i switch between them it thinks that it needs to reboot because of memory but the settings are the same for memory on both.

 

And since my OC and UV have different ram speeds than the default preset it ****s up everything else. I wish the default could be disabled. How do you make it that whenever a game is not running the UV profile is used instead. I can put UV on chrome and OC on all my games but as soon as im not on chrome or a game the default preset will be reloaded. How do you get around that. I wish there was an option "load this profile all the time except for these conditions which loads an other profile".

Thanks anyway

 

I always do a clean install to rid all the bloat and to install only the needed drivers and apps.

Delete the stock software bloat all together as that will conflict with the other tuning software. If you ever wonder why strange things are happen or why things are not working, it's very possible that the culprit could be the built in bloated software.

A clean install is highly recommended.

Use xtu to set your power limits (only), the close out of xtu completely.

Then use throttlestop to fine tune it.

There is a thread on everything you need to know about throttlestop by unclewebb.

^

Thanks for stepping in with the detailed reply. Very well said.

Yea as you know my hands are tied right now with a ton of systems. So many tests and so many reviews I've gotta churn out... Yikes... Hair on fire...

Xtu is to be used for only one purpose. To set your power limits. That's it. The rest is to be done using throttlestop.

The most convenient way that takes seconds to load upon boot is make your profiles in TS so that all you have to do is open it, select your saved profiles (upper left of window), then simply close.

::iunlock::

 

Thanks iunlock, but i have a few issues with ThrottleStop, even tho i set my multipler at 45 for overclocking as soon as i load a torture test it will drop down to 39 even tho it's below the Temp limit and below the Power Limit. With Intel XTU it doesnt do that.

Edit : it doesnt seem like TS works good with the thermal limits. I open XTU set 70 watts close XTU completly, run a prime 95 and the CPU starts throttling down to 39 as soon as it passes 45W

paging @iunlock to look at this

 

Hey all!
A common issue with current Clevo laptops are that during high GPU usage the CPU is not stable and may dip under the usual clocks (even at low temp).
MSI GT73VR 7RF does not have this issue. But what about Asus G701VI ?
Could someone please run a Fire Strike and Fire Strike Extreme test and paste the graph of the CPU frequency so I could see if it is stable during the test or it is jumping around?
Thank you!

 

@iunlock any feedback from my previous post?

Thanks

 

Up with all limits!!

 

We have here sold 7700hq CPU model for G701vik. What do you think about the noise and heat development about that model? Anyone is using it?

 

7700HQ with GTX 1080 is not a good idea, many games would be bottlenecked compared to a slightly overclocked 7820HK. In some games you will not see any mentionable difference, however in some games the difference can be 20+ FPS.

G701VIK should have better temps than the G701VI in general, because Asus did not just update the Skylake CPU to Kaby Lake CPU but also changed the cooling design. G701VI is using 2-2 shared heatpipes for the CPU and GPU, while the G701VIK is using 2 dedicated heatpipes for the CPU and 4 dedicated heatpipes for the GPU.

Old G701VI cooling:


New G701VIK cooling:


I suggest you look for a model with 7820HK. Regarding speed the 6820HK would be good too but as I said above, the cooling in the older model is not good enough and both CPU and GPU is throttling during gaming.

Seems even Asus noticed that the G701VI is overheating and throttling so luckely they fixed the cooling in the G701VIK.

 

Thanks for the answer. I wasnt aware that the heatpipes were radically different between these 2 models. Good to know that.

I am an Asus fan mostly because of the noise development and never used other brands except Clevo(awful experience)

If the price would be same between G701vik and Msi gt73vr-7rf, which one would you prefer? Same components and same price in my country and the noise during idle or at gaming is the buying point for me.

 

Have not tested G701VIK yet (will test it in 1-2 weeks), but I tested the GT73VR 7RF. I had rather bad experience with the quality control of the screen, all the ones I tested had the same manufacture defect (all of them were European model).
Not counting this the MSI was actually pretty good. Good temps and games were smooth. Not as smooth as on a 144 hz G-Sync monitor but much smoother than a 60 Hz laptop display. Being a TN panel the 120 Hz Chi Mei panel in the MSI had good color reproduction, almost IPS level.

Compared to the Asus the MSI is using more heatpipes and has 4 exhaust vents instead of 2 so temps should be slightly better.
Also the MSI has standard HDD while the Asus can only have PCI SSDs.
Asus G701VIK has an UEFI bios with graphical interface and the MSI has the old EMI BIOS interface, however the MSI bios has more CPU tweakign options because even the most basic CPU settings are hidden in the Asus BIOS so overclocking only possible with software.

Regarding CPU speed stability the MSI is super stable, all other laptops are throttling during usage. I did not test the Asus yet, but I have a feeling that will drop core clock too during Fire Strike test. So far only the MSI and Clevo (with Prema BIOS) can manage stable clocks during Fire Strike

So without testing I can say so far:

MSI is better:
- better temps
- better BIOS

Asus is better:
- better screen (for me at least because Asus has IPS panel so it has better color reproduction but as I said the TN panel in the MSI lalso looks very good)

If they both go for the same price, I would go with the MSI (IF yo ucan get one without sceen issue). Of course I am saying this without testing the Asus G701VIK because I only have experience with the MSI so far.

Asus has a bit more premium feel because the upper side is made of aluminium instead of plastic, while the MSI is made of only plastic, but don't worry, despite being plastic the MSI will not give the cheap chinese feeling.
Regarding screen flex the Asus is better, the MSI quality is worse regarding this and the screen can flex really badly. But if you are not an idiot who is bending the screen on purpose you won't have a problem with this.

As for noise...they both are loud as a vacuum cleaner if you run them at max speed to get the lowest possible temps.

So so far all I can say is that the Asus is a little bit more premium quality but both the Asus and MSI have their pros and cons.

I can only give a final verdict after actually trying out the Asus.

 

During the past month I gave my GL702vm(kbl) and then G752vs(kbl) because of extreme backlight bleeding. I am searching it for G701vik and already found some users suffering that problem.

If I would be sure to find a clear one, I wouldnt doubt for a second. Also Asus' screen MS is not perfect like MSI's but I dont think that I can realize it.

I have G750jz right now and I am quite curious how louder g701vik would be under load if I compare with mine.

 

All G701VI(K) laptops have backlight bleeding, this is the con of having an IPS panel. However if you are lucky you can get one with minimal bleed which you will not see during gaming.
How loud compared to a G750jz ? Very, very much louder, because the G750jz has a 103W GPU while the G701VIK has a 180W GPU so it takes much more juice to cool it down. If you think the G750jz is load, then bad news, you will not find a GTX 1080 laptop which is not louder. Unfortunately anotehr con of having a modern gaming laptop, you need heatphones while gaming ...

 

Well, if I will be forced to wear headphones with 1080, then I might consider not to have it as our flat is quite small and the noise can disturb my wife although, I will be with headphone. As I have been reading thr reviews with Max-Q, mostly they are disappointment as well because of the price policy so maybe better to keep my G750jz for some moment and maybe get G751jy for a reasonable price if I find a clean one.

 

Max-Q also ramps up under load way over 39dba, in the video reviews some show 60-70dba.

They did comment though that it doesn't sound loud when you are using it, because the sound is deflected into the room, not so good for others within earshot