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    Asus ROG GL503

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by sicily428, Jun 15, 2017.

  1. williamaltu

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    You are right on the 3GB comment. However lets remember Asus updated the tech info, and there they describe not only a 3GB GTX but a 6GB. Lets just hope you for this one you are wrong :D.
    https://www.asus.com/Laptops/ROG-Strix-Hero-Edition/Tech-Specs/

    I am going for the hero 6GB edition !!!
     
  2. Mr. H

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    I really hope I am also wrong about the heat management lol. Cuz this seems to be an elegant device Asus has ever created, at least to me. I wish they made a 1070 version of the Hero too :< I really love that artwork on the top panel of the Hero xD
     
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    franzerich Notebook Evangelist

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    So you think the Asus ROG logo is tacky and find an alternative without:

    Asus FX503 (1050 gtx or 1060 gtx) https://www.asus.com/Laptops/FX503/

    The "x"-like lid still looks kinda gimmicky, similar to the new HP Omens lid design, or MSI trying to make the lid look like a Porsche engine cover. Not a fan of such things, but it still looks more decent with an Asus logo instead of the ROG logo. What is unacceptable however, is the red keyboard letters. I've tried 2 times to adapt to such keyboards (Lenovo Legion, HP Omen), and couldn't - because it gave me f*** eye cancer!

    Why not keep it simple?
    - Business line: Silver "ASUS" logo on lid, with white backlit keyboard)
    - Gaming line: Red "ASUS" logo on lid, with white/RGB backlit keyboard)

    No weird logos, symbols, and other design crap. Just a small hint to differentiate between the ones with high performance and low performance.
     
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    Since it's so late, maybe they should wait with the GTX 1070 version until January when the Coffee Lake CPU's releases for notebooks?
     
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    Montségur Notebook Guru

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    Canada Computers is now advertising the GL703/503, but they are all GTX 1050 versions and quite honestly the prices are way out of whack IMO.

    http://www.canadacomputers.com/asus/rog-notebooks

    I love Asus and I've purchased a lot of ROG over the years, but when I can order a Dell 7577 for less than $1400 all in with a GTX 1060 max-q, an NVMe and a four lane Thunderbolt 3, why would I take the GL503? And since when would I pay $1800 for a GTX 1050 rig?

    Yikes.
     
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  6. jrwingate6

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    That is pretty damn high. Xotic PC in the states is selling the 703vm 1060 model with a 120hz display for $1499. That doesn't include a SSD though. Only a 1tb SSHD.

    Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk
     
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    I started considering ROG laptops when ASUS finally decided to remove the "ASUS" logo. If you look at the most gaming laptops, they use their own gaming logos. You won't see "Dell" on Alienware (Alien Head Logo), "Razer" on Blade (Snake Logo), etc. These are how gaming laptops differentiate from regular laptop.

    I really like gaming laptops with minimalistic design since it can be used in gaming and business context. IMO the GL503 design is the better than GL502 since it does not have too much gaming accents. Somehow, you know that GL503 is a gaming laptop (due to the logo) but does not distract other's attention too much (no bright orange accents).
     
  9. Mr. H

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    When will the ASUS ROG GL503VS be released? and is there a GL703VS with TB3?
     
  11. Mr. H

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    http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-gl503vs-dh74.html
    You can order the GL503VS now from XoticPC and there will be no GL703VS version sadly, only GL703VM :<
     
  12. wintermutex

    wintermutex Notebook Enthusiast

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    this has got to be a preorder :p so tempted, but gonna wait for reviews of the panel and cooling before deciding between the gl503vs and aero 15x
     
  13. Mr. H

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    From what they told me is that you can order it from them now, the reason they havent made a public announcement or post the product on Amazon yet is because their stock isn’t sufficient enough for everyone to purchase yet.
     
  14. wintermutex

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    So which one would you pick if you had to choose between the gl503vs and the aero 15x?

    GL503VS - full 1070 GTX, 144hz IPS
    vs
    Aero 15x - 1070 MAX Q, 60hz IPS bezelless screen, thinner, aluminum, bigger battery

    The biggest unknown however are the thermals on the GL503VS..
     
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  15. Jmanthesin

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    Is the GL503VS supposed to be released this month?
     
  16. dbzx

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    The GL503VM hero and 703VM scar is out XoticPC, HIDevolution, and Pro-star for those interested. Seems like these laptops comes with an IPS-level TN panel screen not an actual IPS.
     
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    Montségur Notebook Guru

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    First review I've seen for the GL703 line and uh-oh: nearly 69 ° at the hottest point? Not so good.

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-...00HQ-GTX-1050-FHD-Laptop-Review.258246.0.html

    "It might surprise some that Asus thus far hasn't released a notebook in the ROG Strix GL703-series with a higher-performing graphics card. One possible explanation: even with this fairly entry-level GTX 1050 GPU, the notebook can get extremely hot....we are less than impressed with the temperature management and the dual-fan / multiple heatpipe design. Asus obviously needs to go back to the drawing board here to keep the temperatures better in check during prolonged periods of load."
     
  18. Jmanthesin

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    Yeah that 2 fan design looks terrible per usual.
     
  19. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    the 2 fan design isn't terrible by itself. Other gtx1050 setups have worse setups with only one fan, and heatpipes crossing over from one chip to the other.

    The ~70C case temperature is coming from the rear center, where they have that huge chunk of metal giving off heat from the gpu.
    Ideally, you want all of the heat travelling along the heat pipes to the heatsink fins. But there's so much metal there that heat must stagnate right there in the middle.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  20. Jmanthesin

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    Well 96c while under load on CPU is pretty bad. With the addition of a 1070 rip.
     
  21. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    nah. 96C under extreme load is standard. You can run 96C all day long.

    Since the cpu can safely run up to 99-100C, Asus set the PROCHOT parameter to 100C, which means Asus is allowing the cpu to run that hot before throttling.

    Some people want to run their laptops cooler, 90C or lower,
    but they're robbing themselves of cpu power. Some manufacturers set prochot lower, and they throttle sooner.
     
  22. Mr. H

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    If I had to choose, I would go with the GL503VS because
    1) I like the new design of the GL503 series
    2) It's $300 cheaper, which I can spend on clothes and shoes LOL
    3) I don't mind the extra weight and carrying the power brick
    4) First 144 Hz display on a laptop, so I am eager to see
    5) NO ORANGE COLOUR OPTION FOR THE 15X, SO A DEAL BREAKER FOR ME T______T


    BUT, if you are into or working on photography, photo & video editing, you carry it with you as your daily driver, and you can go up to that price point, highly recommend to going with the Aero 15X. My friend, who works on photography and video editing, is trying to save up money for this device because he says this device has an amazing display for his job, mobile, and also a GTX 1070 Max Q for gaming. For the high refresh rate, you can easily get a monitor later on and plug into your laptop. Trading the refresh rate for better battery and mobility is worth it for me. Last but not least, Aero 15X features a Thunderbolt 3 with 4 PCIe Express Lanes for later on external GPU if you are into it, meanwhile, the GL503VS only has 2 PCIe Express Lanes.


    I hope you find this analysis helpful, mate. Cheerios! Let me know if you have any further concern.
     
  23. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    we don't know if the gl503vs has only 2 lane thunderbolt

    maybe they revised it to 4 lanes
     
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    new review for the GL703VM scar edition. The kit guru link says its a GL703VW but idk if that exists or not.
     
  28. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    That 703VM is so mismatched.

    A big step back from the 702vm

    On the previous generation, you sacrificed Optimus and battery life, and traded for gsync.
    But this 703vm doesn't even have gsync.

    So you have a 120hz TN panel with no gsync, and bonus crappy battery life.
    The review suggests there is no Optimus either.

    Enjoy the tearing.

    120hz is overkill for the gtx1060.

    Totally mismatched laptop, which makes me glad I got my GL502vm..... which is fully loaded with hdmi 2.0, thunderbolt, gsync, IPS screen.
    I just wish I could have Optimus and white keyboard backlight.
     
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  29. wintermutex

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    wait, does the gl503vs-dh74 not have gsync?
     
  30. dbzx

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    Honestly, i am not too sure about that scar edition review. XoticPC is saying that the scar edition has G-sync TN Panel where as the traditional model has the IPS screen. I have also chat with ASUS support and they indicate that the 17 inch version has GSync, but then again these supports are very unreliable as they are just reading off of spec sheets. So i guess we won't really know unless more reviews come out.

    I hope that the traditional version have Optimus based on the review of the GL703VD model.

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-...00HQ-GTX-1050-FHD-Laptop-Review.258246.0.html
     
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  31. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    kitguru possibly fked up the test, as intel's uk site suggests this has integrated graphics, which could possibly mean optimus is available.

    But kitguru's battery test is abysmally short at 2 hours, which suggests the gtx1060 was being used for it, rather than the hd630.

    with optimus, it should get 6-7 hours
     
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  32. jrwingate6

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    So it appears as if Asus just used the same crappy two pipe thermal system and added some higher voltage fans that are obviously louder.

    What is wrong with this company? I would love to meet their engineers. They obviously have no clue what they're doing when it comes to thermal system design. If they did, their CPU's wouldn't be hitting 90 celsius still.

    Bare in mind, this is the 1060 model. Just imagine how loud and hot the 1070 model gets.

    Asus you suck!

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  33. Jalen9762

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    At this point its better off to get the ge63vr rather then the scar the cooling is somewhat bearable on the msi ge63vr compared to scar
     
  34. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    Haters gonna hate, but every i7 laptop reviewed on notebookcheck has cpu temps over 90C under stress test, or they throttle big time to run a little cooler.
    You could say NO ONE has a clue what they're doing when it comes to thermal design.

    See below....

    I keep saying that Asus sets a high throttling temperature, so it allows it to run hot before throttling, while other manufacturers you see the cpu throttling to base clocks.
    Cpu temps are not the whole story, and these cpu's can run 99C all day long.

    msi gs73vr
    [​IMG]

    gigabyte aero 14k
    [​IMG]

    gl703vd
    [​IMG]

    GE73VR..... even this gets toasty with its gazillion heatpipes.
    [​IMG]
     
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    It's crazy, but most of that extra thermal energy is from unneeded voltage on the CPU... you guessed it, undervolting.

    undervolting is something few (any??) laptop reviewers take the time to do, it should be mandatory - undervolt - then review :)
     
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    Very closely monitor this topic.
    I choose a laptop 17.3. I liked the ASUS GL703VD, I already saw it live - a cool, quiet design, a very convenient keyboard for typing and an excellent display.

    How horrible are the temperatures of the GL703VD?

    And did not quite understand the graphs, as things are with the overheating of the following laptops:
    MSI GS73VR
    MSI GE73VR
    ASUS GL702VM
    ASUS GL703VD

    Is it really better to take ASUS GL702VM instead of ASUS GL703VD? (if you do not take into account the difference in the GPU).

    Thank you in advance!
    I will be happy for your help!
     
  37. dbzx

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    Theoretically the GL702VM is better on paper in terms of spec. I personally think you should not get the GL703VD. You should decide between GL702VM and GL703VM. XoticPC has the GL703VM traditional (-WB71) and scar edition (-DB74) for sale.

    It really depends on whether you care about RGB lighting, or red lighting. GL702VM does have a bigger battery (74 WHR vs 64WHR), G-sync, and thunderbolt 3 if that matters to you.

    For the GL703VM however, there are still alot of unknowns. We are getting mixed information from different sources. Some saying there is G-Sync, others saying no G-sync. Also no information on whether or not Nvidia Optimus is on the laptop, though according to notebookcheck, the 703VD model does have it so I hope the VM model has it as well. Only upside we know for sure is the screen of the 703VM is better. The traditional version has 120 hz IPS panel while the scar version has 120 hz TN panel with 5ms.

    Also, another thing to consider is the appearance. Do you like the look of either laptop? GL702VM looks pretty nice if u see the titanium version in person, I do not really like the original black/orange color combo. The GL703VM is definitely better looking, but its all up to preference.

    Last thing is probably availability. According to XoticPC, the GL702VM-DS74 is at its END-OF-LIFE phase, meaning ASUS won't be producing many of these anymore. Its actually hard to find the GL702VM-DS74 for sale right now. The only place I saw that has it is computerupgradeking. Everywhere else, will have the skylake version with the black and orange combination. If you want the kaby lake version of the GL702VM, you should pick one up soon.

    Good luck with your purchase.

    I personally am going with the GL703VM-WB71 traditional version once I get more information on it.
     
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    Many thanks for such a detailed response!

    I live in Russia, we still have GL702VM (SkyLake) and GL703VD.

    1. The laptop is needed for work, I will play very little games on it. Therefore I want a model with an IPS screen. Therefore, I absolutely do not want TN + Film, the response time is not important. It so happened that these conditions are just satisfied with gaming laptops. I choose among them. It's very sad if the GL703VM has a TN + Film screen. Is it a precise information? Will the option GL703VM with IPS?

    2. Also do not like the bright orange design of the GL702VM. And the GL703VD looks awesome, classy backlit keyboard, and the keys themselves are very comfortable.

    3. I was very upset about the possible severe overheating of the GL703, I do not know if this is critical, if I work hard only on the CPU (for example, archiving, etc.).

    In general, it is unclear whether to take the GL702VM and put up with a bright orange design while working, or GL703VD and be afraid that it will overheat when the CPU is loaded.
     
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    1. According to the resellers I talked to, the 703VM SCAR edition (GL703VM-DB74) has a TN panel, but the 703VM (GL703VM-WB71) Traditional version has a IPS 120 hz panel. However, whether or not these laptops have G-sync or Nvidia Optimus is unknown.

    2. I think the skylake version may or may not have the thunderbolt 3. Notebookcheck indicates that the skylake version has better battery life than the kaby lake if that matters to you.

    3. As for overheating, you can always undervolt your cpu and add different thermal paste to counter that.

    If you want the titanium version of the GL702VM-DS74 you should look at computerupgradeking. Not sure how their oversea shipping works but you can check them out. They still have it for sale. I saw this laptop in person at bestbuy and it looks great, much better than the black and orange version.
     
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    I apologize! I'm considering the version of GL702VM with Kaby Lake :)
     
  41. williamaltu

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    Now I am really confused on what Laptop to really Buy, I live in South America and need to choose wisely (In case I'm not happy with my machine or something), I had the 503VM (6g version) in mind and was actually going to buy it today, but reading and watching this review made me rethink ....
    So what do you guys think? I am looking for a gaming laptop (15') with good cooling system and a 1060 (6G minumim), this was my best option as other review sites always point Asus laptops to be in top 10, I want to buy something before December, Should I keep waiting at least November?
    Thank you !
     
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    If you don't mind not having G Sync or 120 Hz, then the Dell Inspiron 7577 or Alienware 15 R3 seems to be the best bet (my friend has an AW 15 and it runs pretty cool, 68-71 degree while playing OW). You can still purchase something like the Asus GL502VM, GL503VM if you really want it, and then try to undervolt and repaste it with better thermal compound and paste.
     
  43. link626

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    lately, laptops aren't on sale very often. But maybe more discounts will be available soon. who knows.

    To me, all the laptops from dell, asus, msi, lenovo.... are pretty much the same. Buy one based on what your needs and budget are.

    I know the gl503vm is a ripoff right now. Bestbuy lists it for $1600 !!
     
  44. dbzx

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    So for those wondering if the GL703VM and GL503VM has Nvidia Optimus, I have gotten a response from Ted K at HIDevolution:

    "We verified that the GL703VM has Optimus. We did not verify if the GL503VM has it but it most likely does."
    At least now that question has been answered.

    EDIT: As for the MSI GE63VR, its a pretty good laptop but to me, the battery life is crap..51 WHR for a 1060 will barely last 2 hours on non-gaming tasks. I purchased an MSI PE62VR and had to return it because battery was pretty lame. MSI in general makes good laptops but for me personally, all their laptops have very poor battery life.


    Bestbuy just posted the Traditional GL503VM for 1399 as well.
     
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  45. williamaltu

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    Then What does this mean? Well get crappy graphics but more machine lifetime ?
    Does anyone know if Asus really did something with the number of heatpipes? did they improve this for the HERO(GL503VM) and SCAR(GL503VD) edition or did they leave it as the standard GL503VD edition?

    As an example (I know there isn't much difference with MSI based on the excellent comparison Link626 sent, however it does keep temp controlled and they are not so loud)

    MSI GE63VR ( What I think we'd expect as HERO and SCAR edition cooling system)
    ge63vr-coolingbooster5.png
    GL503VD ( What we are praying we don't get in the HERO and SCAR edition)
    gl503vd-cooling.jpg


    Another topic regarding price, I made a little research for MSI GE63; this machines are not cheap, their price is around 1700 to 1900usd so their price is around the same as Asus ? any opinion?
    https://www.excaliberpc.com/659238/msi-ge63vr-raider-002-15.6-120hz.html (just set the graphic card to 1060)

    Thank you !
     
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    Well Nvidia Optimus is pretty much better battery life for day to day tasks , not really gaming. So it isn't to say that you get crappy graphics. Also, one of the main knock from some people on the GL502VM model is that the laptop does not have Nvidia Optimus so battery life could of been alot better with it.

    As for the heatpipes, no information is known about it yet. I asked several resellers and they do not have that information. Probably have to give ASUS a call for that kind of information.
     
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    hame1e00n Newbie

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    Guys, there are a few more questions, maybe you're in the know:

    1. Does G-Sync work on the ASUS GL702 / 502 notebook computers not in games?
    That is, when you just watch a video or work with documents? Is it always on (G-Sync)? If so, are there any advantages from it other than the games?

    2. The batteries in all laptops are now fixed. If he dies, can he be ordered somewhere and changed himself? Who knows?
     
  49. rrm111

    rrm111 Newbie

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    Can anyone tell me how to access ROG GameVisual? I can only see Splendid in the Gaming Center

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  50. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    my bestbuy has this on display.

    i'm going to go there one day and check the bios to see if it has unadvertised Thunderbolt like the GL502vm does
     
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