Asus ROG GL702VS (GTX 1070 Kaby Lake) - I own one

I have them always at max...

 

Then that is odd indeed. The laptop is from this April I presume? Does the undervolt apply on each boot-up? I mean, have you configured intel XTU to apply it every time the machine boots?

The reason why temps are lower on battery is because the components downclock due to power limitations. Also, if you play at an unlocked refresh rate and it's something like 200-300fps then things will run a lot hotter. That's why V-sync is a thing.

You could also give Nvidia Inspector a try - maybe undervolt the GPU as well.

Also, what are your ambient temps? Most devices are tested and validated at 22*C ambient temperature and those directly affect internal temps.

For example, if at 22*C ambient, the machine runs at 90*C, then at 28*C ambient, the machine will run at 95-96*C

 

Intel xtu applies at boot
Monitor has gsync...
Ambient temps at 23-24
I have not tried nvidia inspector. Will do when i get home. Thanks so much

 

Here's a nice price on a GL702VS-RS71 w/1070 + gaming bundle:

ASUS ROG GL702VS-RS71 17.3" Gaming Laptop Core i7-7700HQ, GTX 1070, 1TB HDD
Free Mobile Advance Gaming Bundle ($160 Value) - $1699
9 available / 1 sold
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-ROG-GL...DD-/262896530146?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275

 

Damn i bought mine for roughly 2150us...
anyway i havent tried undervolting gpus before and i found this msi afterburner app... should i use this?

 

Not sure if Afterburner has voltage control on that laptop - you can try - Afterburner is usually better but Nvidia Inspector may have deeper access - try AB first.

Unless your monitor is 120Hz, then enabling G-sync or V-sync and limiting the fps to the native refresh rate is optimal.

 

We can't undervolt GPU's, can "detune" them or *not* OC them, but pretty much a narrow range on the downside.

AB/RTSS will be fine for tuning what can be tuned, using RTSS to limit FPS and setup on screen display - with AB settings to enable OSD features too

 

laptop monitor is 120hz and with gsync... will try ab now...
update: tried ab and it has power limit core voltage and temp limit greyed out. i already ienabled unlock voltage and such in settings...
update 2: nvidia inspector also shows greyed out voltage settings...

 

it seems that turning off turbo boost for the cpu solved my temp problems a bit... i only get 80+ temps now.

 

Edit: wrong model sorry

 

I just got this laptop with the GTX 1070 from Best Buy this afternoon, I loaded Fallout 4 and I'm getting fps in the lower 30s, not even in ultra, now I'm trying on medium too.

I've updated Windows, GE force experience and everything is up to date.


I have a GS73VR with a 1060 and I'm constantly on 60fps on high settings, I know the 1070 is superior but I'm not sure why it is not working as intended?

Any ideas?

 

Remove GeForce Experience (it's garbage bloatware), use DDU to uninstall the drivers and re-download the validated ones from Asus. Also make sure you've installed the chipset drivers and check your clockspeed on all components.

 

Thanks, finally late last night after a lot of troubleshooting the card performed well, but the laptop is already packed and going to Best Buy today, playing 2 minutes of Overwatch or Fallout will take the CPU to 94 and throttle, you can see frames dropping from 114 to 62 and then going back up. I undervolted and limited the processor to 99% for avoid turbo spikes but the temperature only went down to 88.
In contrast I have a GS73VR and after hours of playing temperatures will not go higher than 72-73.

Things I really dislike about the Asus are that for an expensive laptop it looks like a toy, like those V-tect laptops that you buy from Toys-R-Us for your kids to learn the ABC, it sounds like a toy when you tap on the plastic and the speakers are just atrocious.
The keyboards feel is good but what is good for if you cannot see the letters?, with the backlight off you do not see the dark red letters on black keys and with the backlight on everything gets distorted due to backlight coming from the bottom of the keys instead of the actual letter and the ugly alien font that you cannot read.
Also I'm not sure what HDD they placed there but I have a laptop with a 5400rpm hard drive that is 20 times faster than the 7200rpm in the Asus.
I thought I've found the perfect laptop with a 1070 card but I guess the search continues, ordering a GT72VR now I've heard good things about it.

 

The heat is due to the 1070 being a 120-140W GPU vs the 90W 1060 in your GS73 - it's perfectly normal considering the 1070 in the strix has nearly 50% higher power consumption than the smaller 1060.

Also, if you found the build quality on the GL unit poor, then the GT72/73 will feel awful in terms of display durability.




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Yes I think I'll stay with the GS73VR for now, temps in the 69-70s while playing witcher 3 on high at 60fps for an hour are wonderful, also extremely low profile that does not cut your wrists while typing, for $1300 this is a winner, next year I'll get the latest and greatest when they figure thermals on new laptops.

 

Quick question, were you playing OW with an unlocked frame-rate? Cause usually results in higher temps due to excess GPU load.

 

Yes but I do the same with the GS73vr and i get 120fps at 69c CPU and 71 GPU on Epic settings, I think there is no need for a 1070 on a laptop yet, too much heat for same results in games, until they figure better cooling in a year or two the 1060 will be the best card for heat and performance (and price).

 

Thing is - the 1060 doesn't push the CPU as hard for draw calls as the 1070 - hence the extra heat. Remember, Kaby Lake does run quite hot under heavy load.

 

Yes that is why I think that with today's thermals and cooling solutions a 1060 is better for laptops, unless you are a pro pro pro gamer and need the super 2000 fps, a 1060 locked at 60hz or 75hz on high settings is great.

 

Depends on the laptop - Alienware machines alongside the more expensive solutions such as the Asus G701 are easily able to handle even a fully unlocked 1080 without overheating or throttling.

 

That is good to hear, I also bought an Alienware 17 R4 Skylake model with a GTX 1070 as a gift for my son's graduation that is arriving on Monday but I'm having double thoughts about the 1070 and heat and fan noise and maybe return it for a 1060.

 

I don't think you'll have issues with it. And if you, for some unknown reason, are not happy with thermals, you could always send it to team LHz for a repaste and a bit of tuning. Feel free to check with @iunlock @Mobius 1 @zergslayer69 @DeeX

 

Has anyone tried repasting their GL702VS with Grizzly's Conductonaut?

I've just ordered the laptop and should get it within a couple days, i don't want the CPU running on the 90c's all the time when gaming.. just to figure out my strategies of how to fix that.

im putting my Razer Blade 2017 for sale, can't handle the fan noise anymore and the idea of a larger 120hz screen was inticing..

(i am assuming the GL702VS will game quieter vs my RB right?)

 

But what about in the year 2020 will a 1060 still allow you to play almost all the games you want to play at 60fps? maybe, but no likely. and most people will probably keep the laptop 3 years, yes?

 

Actually I am planning to keep it for at least 5 years (GL502VMK). If I had to keep a laptop that costs thousands of dollars for 3 years only, I would just get a console and change it when the new gen comes out. Looking at all the upcoming games for 2018-19 I don't see anything demanding for a GTX 1060 with 6gb of VRAM (maybe the 3gb version would be more limited). Sure, with a GTX 1070 you should be safe for a year or two more, but the price difference, at least in my country, is huge. Spending 400€ or more for a laptop with the GTX 1070 is way too expensive, considering you can just spare the money and get a better GPU for the time your laptop will be useless for gaming, or just upgrade your desktop one instead, or just buy the next gen console if you want.

I had an overclocked GTX 970M (just a small overclock +135Mhz) and, despite being released in 2014, it was still rocking games at high-ultra settings 40-60 fps (medium-high settings at solid 60fps were obviously possible). PREY did even run at a solid 60fps at almost ultra (perfect optimization). Now I just saw that the overclocking capabilities of the GTX 1060 are way higher. On the 970m you could just go up to 135Mhz on the Core Clock. Here you can go up to 1000Mhz for both Core and Memory clock, so a good increase in performance should be also possible.

I tried this beast at 4K and it runs games like RoTR and The Division at medium with 30fps (some other games also with mixed medium and high setting). That's what current consoles like PS4 Pro (upscaled 4K*) and Xbox One X are getting too, sometimes even with an inconsistent 30fps lock. So a GTX 1060 is already on par with these machines.
I don't think the new consoles will come before 2021 and you know games are always tied to console hardware limits.

 

assuming the laptop doesn't die of excess heat, the 1060 will be enough for the next 5 years at 1080p.

 

hi guys,

got my GL702VS yesterday, nice machine..

i can confirm this thing games a hell lot quieter than my RazerBlade 1060 (kaby). It hurts moving away from the small sleek design on the RB but i've realized you just can't have it all..

Couple questions about the 702VS

The touchpad, apart from randomly not working ( just decides to stop tracking your finger correctly or completely) does your make a echo noise when you touch it? like something underneath is a little loose so i hear a noise every time i touch the touchpad. Honestly it's pretty annoying, something i'll either return it over or open it up to see if i can fix it myself.

2nd the screen, i have a love hate relationship with it at the moment. Once it's lit up (full screen image) it looks fantastic, Even more so I noticed the 120hz just browsing around windows and on the web, not something i was expecting but a really pleasant surprise. Also gaming with the 120hz and GSYNC is amazing, played some PUBG last night and i'm loving it. However.. when i first turned it on i was disappointed to see 2 huge blotches of light leaking in from the top of the screen. One of both sides, like someone put 2 spotlights aiming down in he top (i'll update this thread later with an photo). I realize some light leakage is part of the deal but this is really bad, like would be extremely distracting if i ever wanted to watching a movie in letterbox. I suppose there is no fix for that eh?

Temps are what i expected at this point, GPU in the 70-80 's and CPU maxes out at 90c. i'll worry more about that once i figure out these first 2 problems.

 

I will come back to this thread in 2023 to check this post in for prediction accuracy!

 

@FastM - I've had my GL502VT for a year now and while it's a different model, there are some similarities

Firstly, I think your trackpad may warrant an RMA or swap since I've never had tracking issues or noises coming out of it. Maybe the larger chassis results in their being a bit more hollow space under it but a Windows Precision trackpad should definitely be tracking well.

Secondly, screen bleed is somewhat present on mine but it's not that noticeable. Mostly around the left bezel.

 

ROG Strix GL702VS-DS74 on sale for $1449.99 this is normally $1999.00 savings of $549
at OfficeDepot/OfficeMax http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/401011/ROG-Strix-GL702VS-DS74-173-LCD/?cm_cat=1000967602

as of today 6/18/17 sale ended.

 

@FastM , are you still happy with your GL702VS ? I'm looking at one and just curious if you're still pretty happy with it.

 

who else here has a 702vs ?

what thunderbolt chip and firmware is it running?

 

@Ryaninja Hi all,
I just bought the Asus GL702VS and I have to say, amazing machine! Although I am also worried about the temps since the CPU reaches 95*C when gaming for an hour with AAA titles.
I wanted to try your undervolting tips.. -0.100 V is it? I am very new to undervolting, as in, this would be my first time to do it and installed the intel XTU for it, however I don't see any undervolting in the range of mV or 100, but rather -0.100Volt down to -1.000 Volt is the max I can reach in the XTU (talking about the core voltage offset). I would appreciate it if you could show me how you did it precisely.
Also, are you undervolting the GPU as well?

 

I don't understand why people keep buying a laptop that can't even game for an hour without the CPU going over 90 degrees.

Stop buying this crap and force Asus to redesign a thermal management system that actually works.

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it throttles down when needed. Doesn't visually impair performance.

The alternatives are either much heavier or thicker.

 

Just got this from best buy.
GL702VS-BI7N12

It's pretty frustrating to have to tear it down to find it has the gimped out thunderbolt 3 JHL6240 slow speed chip.

Asus wasn't honest and many places are reporting this laptop as 40gbs Tb3 and it's not true.

This laptop is 100% the slow tb3 with the lame JHL6240 controller. I hope this helps someone else from having to go through what I did. Returning this to BB.

 

you missed my post where I tore down the GL702VS and revealed the 2x pcie thunderbolt..

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...n-asus-gaming-notebooks.801943/#post-10588448

Judging from some tests other people have done, the actual handicap isn't too great.
Maybe 10% slower performance than 4x pci thunderbolt, tested with a 1080ti card

 

Hey link626 haha it's funny you say that.

I posted this in the wrong thread. I meant to post this in your gl702vsk teardown thread. Reason being, you were asking other people to check their tb3 controller I think.
I had you in mind tearing mine down. Consider it doubly confirmed

I was hoping I somehow won the tb3 lottery. Ha

 

Did anyone buy GL702VS from HidEvolution? They offer custom ventilation mod which they cut holes under both fans. How much will this effect temps? I'm considering this laptop because it's really budget friendly with 120 hz+gsync+1070... But I'm afraid of the temps. I had GL702VM before and that laptop was throttling like there was no tomorrow.

 

Rog GL702VS has a new bios 307 2018/01/24.
I was wondering did anyone try this yet?
I have not seen anyone comment on the new bios being released, fan speeds, fixes and such?

 

I've updated to BIOS 307 as well as MEUpdate Hotfix from ASUS support page on the "Other" tab, and the laptop is now hitting PL1 limit from out of nowhere. I haven't seen any confirmations that anyone else have the same issues as me, but I'd suggest to avoid those for now.

 

thank you for the info I was still waiting to install 307.
I noticed they pulled the older versions of the bios so you cant roll back.
I found this about someone having the same problem.
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthre...-Drops-when-Turbo-enabled&p=709355#post709355

 

Yes, that's me on the ASUS forum trying to figure out what's going on. Still waiting to see if anyone report the same issues, I have no idea how to report my problem to ASUS since I voided my warranty.

 

How do you think you voided your warranty?

 

I've drilled big circular holes under the fans and changed the thermal paste, both of which voids the warranty as per ASUS. My CPU stays under 75 C now, GPU under 70 C, undervolted, Turbo off.

 

Hello, I got a GL702VS and need some help. Anyone here tested it with 3D Mark Demo? It is running as low as 10fps!!! I did a clean install of windows, updated nvidia drivers, etc.... Tested everything I could and no way to improve this results.
I have now a gamer notebook with bad graphics performance. My clue is that it is like that because of clean windows installation and unfortunatelly I don`t have the recovery partition to try OEM Windows.

Mine is intel I7 7th gen with GTX 1070!. I am really sad to have this low fps and Asus support didn`t help to solve this.

 

What about usual games? Try to install all the drivers from the support page, update the "firmware" in the device manager.

 

Hello, already tried to install all drivers from asus support page but issue remained. I think that Asus drivers has some incompability. Just found out that processor core speed was stuck at 800Mhz and after disabling DB PROCHOT with ThrottleStop application put it back to 3200Mhz. I was really thinking that the issue with performance was solved by doing this but after running 3D Mark Demo again there was no changes on FPS (remains at 10fps).
Anyone here ever installed a clean OS Windows 10 in the GL702VS with success? Unfortunatelly I lost my recovery partition, bacause if I could do factory recovery I can isolate SW or HW issue.
Looking forward for someone who can share with me a image of the recovery partition because I am traveling outside US and I cannot purchase the recovery media.
Could someone share with me the 3D Mark results for the same model ?

 

forgot to tell that regular games such as Project Cars 2 with low settings are running at about 20fps.

 

I reinstalled Windows to Pro first days I got the laptop, and totally forgot to backup the stock partition. Installed all the drivers and it worked fine. Maybe try updating the BIOS?