Asus Scar II - GL704GW, i7 8750H, RTX2070, 144hz

doesnt helped me.. fans still runs at 5-6000 in silent mode at 40 degrees but shows 0 in armoury crate up and down

 

ok, so i made some tests... the laptop seems to be ok. No issues, freezing o artifacts while playing... all problems seems to be when the monitor is connected. i see "micro-freezings" at regular intervals, so i tought it could be due to the cable...
i switched from display port to hdmi (about this: which is better to use between DP and HDMI?) but nothing changed...
so i tried to change some video settings in the game but nothing changed...
then i tried to play with frequencies, but i actually don't know what i'm doing! i tried to force gpu and monitor at same Hz. First 60Hz, then 144Hz... but... nothing changed!
I start thinking that connecting a monitor to this laptop is not good why the hell i had buy a 21:9 gaming monitor if i cannot use it!

Anyone in here who has a monitor connected to the laptop?
but mostly: any idea on how to solve this?

 

i'll try it! thanks!

 

Today i just received my 2 row of ram, finally dual channel (32gb 2666mhz). Fps in games are just almost doubled, from 60-90 (average 70-80) to 100-140 (average 110+), wow.

 

Well you have REALLY test to other monitor to exlude an hardware problem at this point because i use my 704 connected to my lg 55' 4k via display port and have no artifacts at all...

 

What actual RPM do you generally see in balanced mode?
I just bought one of these as there was a super deal on eBay.... but I've been doing some reading and it seems this thing has awful cooling.
My MSI GT62VR w/ GTX 1070 in high performance / sports mode maxes the CPU fan at 2000 rpm and the GPU fan at 3100 rpm.
Anything over 4000 is kinda ridiculous in my opinion.

Sure hope a repaste and undervolt keeps it under that range.

 

this is pretty different fan than GT ones... are pretty thin, as the entire laptop... the new fans mounted on msi GE, GS, GL, acer predator, triton, razer blade are basicallly like the ones used on asus 704-504 series... those things spins at about 5000-6000 rpms when under load... only way to use low profile is silent but of course is toned down on cpu and gpu.

GT is a 4cm's laptop, not a 2.5... a single fan is pratically double the thickness of this...

 

Fair enough, although the Aavid Thermalloy fans in the MSI GT62 don't seem particularly thick.

 

well...i see the gt62 fans on the web and basically are just double or triple the thickness of the 704 and other slim laptops fans, and i think they are even larger than those...

 

Ah wow. Okay good to know. Might send this bad boy back and grab a new HP Omen 17-t.
Really don't need a portable machine, just found it difficult to resist such a good deal

 

same fans as 704gw this too... if you want "big fan" profile structure you have only 3 laptops to choose, asus g703, msi GT serie, acer helios 700. Stop, all the rest with this project are old machine series like your gt62.

 

Uh... are you sure? From the LaptopMedia review:

" There are two plates covering the CPU and the GPU. Additionally, they are sharing two heat pipes, while the GPU and its VRMs and memory modules are sharing another bulky heat pipe. However, we were astonished by the size of these fans. Honestly, they are roughly the size of fans found on a desktop GPU blower type cooler. This not only provides an enormous amount of airflow, but it ensures the quiet work of the entire system."

Source.

 

if the laptop that you said is like this they are just bigger than 704 but not big as the one in GT or rog G703 or other giant monsters...

https://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Omen-17t-i7-8750H-GTX-1070-Laptop-Review.323450.0.html

For sure should be better because of bigger fans and major laptop thickness, 3.5cm vs 2.5, almeno 40% more. But i don't know how fast those fan spins on omen, i doubt that they go under 4000 rpm on full load

 

Hello everyone.

Just got the gl704gv this week from prime day deal and still testing it for issues. Apparently the unit I recieved doesnt have the AUO panel that most people have. Is there anyone else with the LG panel?

 

FOR ALL: yesterday from store asus has pushed update for sonic studio and sonic radar, if you can DON'T UPDATE, this new version of apps cause major latency on many many apps, google chrome, telegram, photoshop, spotify, when launched. For now i just updated audio driver without fix nahimic service, in this way sonic studio doesnt work and i don't have the latency... hope that asus bugfix this **** because is CRAP at the moment, basically you have to choose if have latency on launching apps or sonic studio with his good features...

 

Could someone with this machine do me a huge favour?

Could you put it into 'Windows Mode' (in Armoury Crate), set Windows Power Options to 'Balanced', then fire up a game and see if the fans spin any quieter than just selecting 'Balanced Mode' directly within Armoury Crate?

 

Just had a bsod trying that with tsbench and unigine. What i can tell is fan rpms were 4600-4800 and temps on cpu around 90 cpu 73 with -0.090mv uv.

In balanced mode i have 5k ish rpm but better temps.

Ps. whats the deal with battery discharge during windows mode?

 

You're kidding? That's with the UV active?

There's no way Windows Mode + Balanced Power Setting should be giving you a BSOD!

(I have a GL704GW sitting in a box next to me and haven't decided whether to open it yet. I really don't want a noisy laptop!)

 

Bsod happened most likely due to uv instability.

But yes. It is loud while gaming, 45db at least even in windows mode.(unless you apply lm and uvolt cpu etc. to keep temps down.)

 

45dB is okay. It's when machines begin reaching 48+ that I lose interest.

Would be very happy running Windows Mode (Balanced Power Profile) + LM repaste + Undervolt and getting under 45 dB (using NBC standard of reading dB).

 

Someone with 704gw can share from esupport folder, the folder of sonic studio 3, this thing is store in: edriver>software>storeapp>Online>Avolute>Sonic studio 3.

Please if someone can share it, will give to me a huge favor!

 

If I decide to keep & open mine then I'll share

 

thank you, let me know

 

Im lovin' this beast but when idle I hear some electronic noise like buzzing around the cpu. its definitely not fans whine. anyone had a similar issue? I checked the internals and they looked fine. Maybe the mobo?

 

Sounds like coil whine. Luck of the draw when it comes to that really.

 

I've been getting something similar. Sometimes when I move the mouse around I get this high pitches noise. As soon as I stop moving the mouse it goes away. I have a feeling it's to do with RealTek. Sigh.

 

Couldn't resist opening the box. Playing with it now.
Had a look in that folder but there's nothing there (folders are there, but it's empty). Do I need to install it manually first?

 

well... i think that is empty on new release because even in my esupport that folder is empty after my 704 return from assistance (changed motherboard)...but i was pretty sure that before there was a package in that folder... anyway thank you for attempt made.

for now i just disabled sonic studio to block that behavior waiting for next update from store...

 

Exactly the same as mine. When you switch to silent mode it almost disappears. Please share if you find a solution for it.

 

It's very strange. I got a pop-up that a new RealTek driver had to be installed... did a reboot after it downloaded and the noise was gone (which is why I'm thinking it's the RealTek driver).

Going to play with it tonight and see if it happens again. If it does, I might RMA it. It has a super annoying pitch..

 

guy's if you talk about coil whine don't do any rma because is just intel with last couple of gen processors that have done this orrible noise... i had coil on my last 4 pc (that you can read under my comment). Strange thing is that on my 704 after mobo replaced on assistance seems that coil is not present or at least is much much lower than before to the point that is almost inadible in most cases but i'm not sure...

anyway be carefull with audio updates, because that freakin laptop have 3 things on audio side: 1 realtek driver (that don't do any problems with updates), 2 sonic studio driver (that thing with lastest version from microsoft store caused me INTENSE LAG with many application, for this reases i just disabled sonic studio, but i miss the good equalization that this offer), 3 nahimic service (the bridge beetween sonic studio and driver)

 

For anyone who's interested, I've managed to keep fan noise down by doing the following:

- undervolting to -140mv
- setting the multiplier to 31 (so it turbo's to 3100 MHz)
- setting fans to manual mode
- setting fans to 57%
- editing windows 'high performance' power plan and setting the 'minimum processor state to 5%'

I'm floating somewhere between 84 - 89 degrees for both CPU and GPU while playing Rage 2 at ultra (roughly 100 fps).
Fans spin around 4500 rpm each.

I'll likely repaste within the next week or two and see if it makes much difference.

 

Now my laptop fu**ed up totally... the laptop works but the performance is very very bad... get 22 fps ih Unigine Heaven was 117 before.. passmark 4700 /not tested but on pair with a GTX1050. also bench in assassins creed odyssey on ultra is now 13 and 56 before... what can happend? no artifacts or so.. even a new install didnt get it better... im really tire
d of this ****top.. by far the most expensive i bought and by far the laptop with most problems.. all the time! now i have to send it back to asus =(

 

probably you have something wrong from the beginning, this is the reason why "silent mode" doesn't work in your pc... is not a armoury fault as i explained to you, maybe is just a hardware fail and the silent mode not working is just a symptom of this...

 

Even a clean install didnt get it better.. tried 3 times.. also see that its not getting "hot" anymore just reach around 60 degrees on cpu and gpu..doesnt matter which mode i try with armoury crate installed or direct after a clean install.. first i thought armoury crate just ****ed up things again but even after a clean install i cant get the laptop to perform..

So when i send it back does it matter that i have changed the 1tb harddrive to a ssd ? I think in worst case they send me a new laptop and dont get it back.. the orginal 1tb drive did i put in another laptop that i sold

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armoury or not here i think it's not the problem... hw fault is the problem (thhis is the real reason why armoury modes justt doesnt seems to work on your pc), you can't fix hardware fault with a format. For hard drive i think that should not be any problem, but i think it's better to call asus and ask them, because when i sens mine to rma they told me to mount again hdd (i use ssd too in place of hdd) because if you send with a replaced ppart probably they will replace this parts with a stoock one (so you will lost your ssd)

 

What happend if i send it without the extra hdd?

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Noticed that gpu voltage is 675mV all the time... whats the normal values ?
also Vram usage 0% at benchmarking ..

 

much higher, even higher than 800mv (don't remember the exact value)...

for hdd i don't jnow, you have to ask to asus support on chat or on a call...

 

I am a new owner of GL504GW. And repasted CPU with conductonaut and GPU with kryonaut.
Undervolted CPU core and cache.
Spent the whole day yesterday optimizing the GPU Voltage-Frequency curve in MSI afterburner.

After all these optimizations, I must say the time and effort were well spent.
The performance and temperatures are really good.

Timespy 7722 score (Graphics:7916 CPU:6785) https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/36676024

CPU sits at 79 deg Celcius
GPU sits at 79 deg celcius
At an ambient temperature of 41+ deg Celcius


Also, I got a White Carbon skin from ALIexpress and I must say it looks DAMN SEXY!! ( https://photos.app.goo.gl/YE2yYmk629hQfz6f8 )

Also, I spent a whole day tweaking the GPU voltage curve. So if you want it, I can share it with you. However it might not be stable on your GPU even though it is on mine.

 

Share.. if it works it works .. i have all possible problems with my laptop

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on future i will repaste my 704 too with kryou, is by far the best paste on the market, and with such hot hardware is really needed... you used kryo even on gpu vrm's or you lefted stock pasted on those?

Share the curve from msi, i use 2 curve, 1 with gpu locked at 700mv at 1440mhz for light games or 60fps games (is really amazing, with this flat curve i can play at 64-65 degrees in hot summer like those days), and one a bit more pushed but not so much...

The only thing you did that i don't love is the skin of the laptop... honestly i don't like that white on a rog, especially the keyboard zone with the center zone black and the other white, it look just not professional or well made... but skin on future could be a good thing to cover scratches or plastic faultiness...

 

Here you go: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uC8I_UDXTkVAx_9dDULSxNipRR0iqA8C
The stable one is profile 2, I don't remember what I changed in all the others.
You need to replace files in "C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\Profiles" from this zip.

 

thank you first... you can add a screenshot at full resolution of the curve please? because 704gw have different hw id and afterbuner doesnt load anyway your profile...

 

Uploaded. And memory overclock is +400MHz.
Also, I consistently get 3000 points in cinebench R20.

 

Você pode me dizer qual freqüência máxima de RAM este notebook suporta?
Suporta 3200MHz?

https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Tec...m+laptop+3200&qid=1564956166&s=gateway&sr=8-2

 

in my older motherboard (died) i was consistently get 3000 points on r20 like you...then after repair on assistance (mobo replaced) i only get 2600-2700 points like many other 8750h less lucky...

...anyway i see that on your msi curve it start from 400mv, on mine it start at 700mv... nice edit anyway, when i have time i will try to replicate and test here

 

Interestingly, my coil whine disappears in silent mode. It was only audible when idle anyways

turbo mode + undervolted, witcher 3 optimized settings with 71.99 fps lock smooth as butter avg temps cpu 74 gpu 73 in 25C ambient. no stutters whatsoever. if only this thing had a hardware button for max speed I would uninstall all that crappy asus software and it would be good riddance.

 

Hey! Have been lurking on this thread since i bought my GL704GW on march. Had similar problem with temps like basically everyone else on this forum, especially since i popped in the second stick for dual channel memory. My machine undervolts really badly(bad luck on silicone i guess) so i can only go to -55 on core an cache, so repasting was only way to fix the issue of thermal throttling. I have re-pasted this machine 6 times since march and finally on june I found right combination to get this baby run calm cool and collected. I tryed swapping out all paste with kryonaut, first only on cpu and gpu and then all over the vrm and vram. I did help to lower the temps, an mostly the thermal throttling but temps at high 90 c is not optimal.

So i went and used lm on my machine and undervolted my gpu. At first i put lm on both gpu and cpu but that caused the temps to even out between the cpu and gpu and while cpu temps went down to 82 c the gpu started to thremal throttle. At next step i swapped lm to kryonaut on gpu and used Alphacool 11mwk pads on vrms and vrams. At this point i applied paste barrier with k5 around the cpu to prevent lm spilling around the machine when moved and to form airtight seal around cpu(so hopefully the lm will last bit longer) This has finally cooled this machine down. Temps remain quite low on all loads, and what is most impressive is that now this machine is really quiet unless under maximum load, and still its quieter than before.

As far as undervoltin gpu goes I'v popped limit on 1900 mhz at 0.915 volts and not overclocked the memory tough i think that this machine can handle quite hefty overclocking on memory now. As far as results go got 19 757 on firestrike graphics 17k overall while temps where around 76on gpu and cpu. 7532 on timespy and 7669 on graphics while temps where around 76 max on gpu and cpu. While chaining benchmarks at assasins creed origins for 30 mins got around 10500 score average while temps where around 82 on gpu and 84 on cpu(on this the hoover sound starts coming back, but luckily this does not max out the fans even at this point). Without the undervolt and overclock on memory the temps roused around two to three degrees on both. On total war warhammer temps hover around 80-81 with all on ultra.

So overall, most hassle i have ever had with any laptop. Before i basically just installed games and did not even think about thermals and such. But with this one I have became really interested about thermals and being slightly neurotic I just couldn't just let matter go unless i got it solved. So on the flipside, if my friends need a repasting or maintenance i think i can handle most of machines now .

Dunno if I'd buy this machine if I had knew all the hassle, but now this is really good machine that can handle anything and remain relatively quiet and cool. Thanks to all folks on this thread with all the tips and tricks to adjust this beast.

 

Can confirm khafra.. get e better more stable computer with kryo on GPU and LM on CPU.. also have kryo on Vrams ..