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    Battlefield 3 on the G73-jh

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Andrei Pavel, Oct 25, 2011.

  1. Ltm8fanboi

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    Interesting.
    Now I get a message "Unable to launch Battlefield 3. make sure the game is installed correctly and try again", THEN it loads up the same screen as when I did the -sp and gives the same error as before.

    Hmmmmmm

    Thanks
     
  2. infowarrior

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    Well my R2 has been giving me some problems with gaming blue screens etc.. I have to wipe the hard drives clean. Anyway, i completed the single player on the G73JH, CPU and GPU is overclocked, someone posted oh you shouldn't be overclocking the 5870 man i was laughing at that! I just need to get the 180W Targus universal charger for further overclocking and stability. I uploaded a video of the gameplay during the F18-A1 Super Hornet mission

    Asus G73JH Battlefield 3 Gameplay - YouTube
     
  3. CrappyAlloy

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    I know right?? Lmao dude Idk, Ive been having a lot of weird issues with my audio out through HDMI, and since the creative/realtek audio centers dont work for it (as the HDMI is through ati/amd) I have difficulty testing different things; for now I just flipped my speakers, but would like an explanation. Think my drivers could be doing it? Installed 11.10 preview 2 not too long before BF3 came out.

    Theres another thread, in which another thread is linked lol about an NBR BF3 Platoon, gonna add my name to that :D
     
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    well it launches fine for me in offline mode..
    uninstall/reinstall you game i suppose or try using the repair option..
     
  5. Ltm8fanboi

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    Re-installed about 4 times. Tried the repair within Origin, and it gets to 100% then stalls, then says that BF3 is "ready to install"...

    This is going back to the store today :( Will pick it up again when they release a major bug fix update.
     
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    I think BF3 is not optimized for Quad-Core CPU.
    Because when ever i start FRAPS and record the game, i don't notice any FPS Drop at all. mostly i record it at 1600x900, my frame rate is set on 40fps, and i don't lock it on FRAPS, but, with or without Fraps, my frame rate is steady around 40 FPS no matter what.
    Anyone facing the same situation?
     
  7. CrappyAlloy

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    AMRAAM_Missiles: having a dual monitor setup, I am always watching my usage/temps and whatnot; it is definitely quad core optimized, in fact it generally uses all 8 of my threads. And I too use FRAPS
     
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    Gonna repaste soon.

    BF3 manage to drive my G73 uo to 97C yesterday. Had enough with this nonsense temps. My ambiance is pretty high though, which is 38C on my HDD.

    What are the temps are you guys getting in your G73?
     
  10. schockie

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    around 80°C on my oc'd cpu (800x1200) and 70ish on my oc'd cpu. You should be getting those as well. Repaste ftw !
     
  11. Cheesenium

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    Yea, im expecting low 90s too, at worst case scenario.

    Still gathering information to do a successful repaste. It should be fine as i have done those difficult to setup tri-axial tests for my thesis.

    I'll try dropping my res lower and see how it runs.

    Im running on 1080p now, on medium.

    And strangely, i am running out of GPU memory with BF3.
     
  12. Kingpinzero

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    Cheesenium: that's a know issue with bf3 even on desktops. Disable desktop composition and other stuff by rightclick->proprieties, that should fix the problem.

    About quad core optimization that AAMRAM was talking about, frostbite 2 and 1 are built around 3 cores CPUs (consoles).
    In detail:

    0 - general processing
    1 - physical simulations (havok)
    2 - sound engine
    3 - graphic processing

    When a dual core is used, core 1-2 are united on one core and same happens with core 0-4.
    Frostbite 2 uses a technique called fps smoothing and dynamic scaling. Even with vsync off, the engine limits the framerate to 30fps if the gpu card used isn't capable to deliver more than 50fps.
    When 50fps limit is broken, the engine lifts the limiter.
    I like this implementation because from what I saw us best to keep steady 30-35 fps instead having from 30 to 40 fps constantly jumping.
    That introduces lag and latency along with stuttering.
    When there are areas or portions not so intensive by the engine side the fps smoothing is disabled as well.
    In SP thought is the most effective. In MP is almost always un limited.
     
  13. XxNune3dg3xX

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    C:\Windows\system32\atidxx32.dll

    Im having same issue as well.
    I get the Battefield 3 has stopped working, and under problem details, my fault module is atidxx32.dll.

    Cant launch single player or multi, nothing. Im looking into alot of fixes.
     
  14. largo1234567

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    guys, ati 11.10 has come out.
     
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    Can you get clearer ? Is this only the reason why BF3 is making our CPU getting really hot ??
     
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    Mine doesn't get hot, but also the cooling system of the g-series is different fom your msi.What kind of load you get on the CPU?
    If you're over 80% probably something is bottlenecking the gpu, therefore the load is shifted on the CPU.

    What can I advice is:

    - ThrottleStop running in background
    - disable core parking
    - run your gpu overclocked

    That's all that comes to mind right now.
     
  17. pau1ow

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    all already done actually...what is desktop composition you were talking about?? and core parking
     
  18. Zymphad

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    Core parking just means Windows idling a few cores on your CPU to conserve on power. Just think normally a quad core of four cars racing. Core parking would be if a few cars are parked, just idling.

    Follow directions here to disable that: Windows 7 & Core Parking .... a *better* way to Turn It OFF ....
     
  19. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    You'll find desktop composition under proprieties->compatibility tab if you rightclick on bf3.exe in the game install dir.
     
  20. p1n0yBaLLeR

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    what is your guy's settings to get 40 fps?
     
  21. Cheesenium

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    I'm running on everything medium on 720p
     
  22. Pass_00

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    I'm just astounded by how hot everything got. I installed the game and left my usual overclocks (CPU 26-25-22-22, GPU 800-1100). Anyways I loaded the game and left it at the main menus. I forget the actual readings but it was CPU in the low 90s and GPU in the high 80s. Just off the menu screen in game!

    I think I'm gonna do another repaste... I went back to normal clocks and played for 30 minutes and temps were on the higher side still. What is the deal here. Ahhhhhhh... Hope a repaste fixes it
     
  23. Pass_00

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    on second thought...

    with my above settings after playing two rush maps I seem to top out at:

    CPU temp - 88-87-86-87
    GPU temp - GPU diode - 90, DispIO - 78, MemIO - 90, GPU shader - 78

    are these safe to go at for hours? Im impressed its all stable. I'm just using the auto settings it started me with... I think all High and 1920x1080 res

    whats with the two higher temps with my GPU?
     
  24. schockie

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    Those months waiting finally payed off !

    Been playing BF3 with these clocks:

    GPU: 800x1200
    CPU: 26/24/22/22 (TDP:93 TDC:75 ,not that it matters, since the game doesnt require that much)

    Temperatures went as high as:

    GPU: 83°C / 87°C / 81°C (dispIO/memIO/shader)
    CPU: 83°C / 81°C / 82°C / 80°C

    And these are the BF3 settings I'm using:

    [​IMG]

    Mostly the fps are between 30 and 45, I've never seen it drop below 30.
    Not even in the multiplayer.
    I'm loving the game, but it could surely use some AA.
    It does look a bit better than BC2, but I'll be more impressive if our G73 could withstand some AA... with AAx2, it drops to 26-38.

    Game on!

    Update:

    These settings:

    [​IMG]

    On "Caspian Border" with 64 players: lowest: 22fps average: around 32 fps note: 200/600 frames are below 30 fps, but only 25/600 below 25fps
    On "Crossing Seine" with 64 players: lowest: 25fps average: around 42 fps note: only 12/600 frames below 30 fps
     
  25. Pass_00

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    Do u think switching to bios 213 from 209 would help my temps at all? I read that the fans kick in much higher... If that's the case it may be worth the risk of flashing....
     
  26. schockie

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    Yes. The fans rev up to the max in bios 213 when the temps reach 80°C (or somethin), while bios 209 it'll only do htat when it reaches 90°C.
    Therefor your CPU/GPU will run cooler under load, but it results in a 'heavier breathing' of our baby !
     
  27. Quagmire LXIX

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    Asus G73JH & Battlefield 3 GPU Clocks 700x1000 vs 800x1100 OC 5870m 1920x1080

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    I ended up flashing to 213 last night from 209... held my breath through the entire process and was successful.

    Temps are a little lower but not by much (1-2). Im gonna be gaming all night tonight so ill see how the laptop holds up with both the overclocks. I may have to take breaks here and there to let it cool down... will post back later...
     
  29. shockre

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    why oh why i cant overclock my 5870 more than 750/1050 :(
     
  30. schockie

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    cause your 'r' should be an 'i', and there should be a 'c' behind the 's'..

    :p

    Have you updated your bios/vbios/ati drivers ?
    If not, do that first. Else, what program are you using to overclock ?
    Using the standard powerbrick ?

    It could be that you're one of the unlucky ones that can't overclock as much as others.
     
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    It's really bad for me. For the bigger maps I have to put it down to 1280x720, all settings low, to get it playable. Then I can't see anything distant, it's so blurry. And forget about the campaign, it's unplayable even at those settings.

    It feels really hot too... though it is 30 degrees today and I haven't tried it on a cooler day.

    I'm running the bf3 preview drivers that came out during the beta.

    Any ideas?

    G73JH with 1080p screen
     
  33. schockie

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    Monitor those temperatures with HWinfo32 and report back your cpu & gpu temps. Normally they should be around 65°C-70°C for the 720qm cpu and around 80°C (700x1000) on the 5870m gpu.

    Also check your ccc under the tab 'information' - 'software'.
    Take a screenshot and post it here as well, just to compare if you're using the same drivers as the rest of us.
     
  34. ViNZz

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    I got the same problem here. Currently using Trixx to overclock.
    Temperate is pretty low at 72-74c at max. Seems stable at 750/1050 but artifact occasionally. 800/1100 will tend to bump my game back to desktop. Do I need a non standard powerbrick?
    [​IMG]

    Uploaded with ImageShack.us
     
  35. skygunner27

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    I agree :) Just for reference purposes my specs play BF3 at max settings with Vsync enabled from 63 FPS to 53 FPS. I turn 4xMSAA down to 2xMSAA to keep the FPS above 57 FPS to 63 FPS with 285.62 Verde driver.
     
  36. schockie

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    Well, with a standard 720qm you don't need another powerbrick. 150Watts is more than enough, so that's not the problem. Neighter should the program you use to overclock, but just to make sure, try using download from Guru3D.com
    You've updated your bios/vbios/ati drivers as well ?
     
  37. ViNZz

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    Been 1 year since I update bios and vbios, I followed the guides in NBR. How do I check which bios/vbios i am using? Just realised trixx is the one giving me the problem. Currently doing 760/1060. 56c idle, 77 peak. The last time i try 800/1100, give me the death screen of lines.
     
  38. schockie

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    Well your temperatures are surely not the problem. The card can withstand 100°C+ before it shuts down.

    You can check the vbios version with Gpu-Z.
    If the 'BIOS version' ends with 032.038352, you're good, else, update your vbios.
    The bios can be found with HWinfo32, under the tab 'Motherboard'
    If the 'BIOS version' is G73Jh.213, you're good.

    Hope that helps ya.

    If those are the ones I mentioned above, it could just be that your card can't overclock higher. Asus made a game, they made a few high-overclockable cards, and a few low-overclockable ones. Guess you were in the last category.
     
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    Thanks, I'll do this and report back.

    It's quite weird, actually... now it's only unplayable *sometimes*...

    Sometimes I'll boot the game and be getting 10 fps, other times it'll be nice and smooth on 1080p. It's random when this happens. Some boot-ups just seem to be... bad.

    Could the fan/clock speed/voltage be failing to uptick on those occasions for some reason? A different sort of sound comes from the computer when it's slow. I'm not overclocking and I'm using the newest bios and vbios.
     
  40. schockie

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    Lol what sound ? You mean the sound when you're running on battery power ?
    Monitor your gpu clockspeeds when you game. I suggest using MSI Afterburner, and get a table of 1 hour on the graphdisplay. Make sure the clocks don't jump up and down while gaming.
     
  41. ViNZz

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    Yeah just checked, both bios and vbios are the same as you mentioned.
    Just managed to do 765/1065. Temperate peak at 79c in battlefield 3. Not really comfortable for the keyboard.
     
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    Thanks, im gonna try that, cause 209 only rev up the fan at 95C.

    I dont really like that. I would prefer it to be 75C when the fan rev up. I dont mind if its a little noisy as its cooler.
     
  43. schockie

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    79°C with an overclock of 765/1065 is a very decent temperature. Back in the old days (with the standard paste from asus), my temps would rise to 98°C while gaming.
    These cards are made and tested to withstand 120°C, but they thermally shut down at 105°C-ish.
    So there's no reason to be worried there ;).
     
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    best buy model jh here. Latest drivers and everything.

    SIngle player with everything on ultra gets me around 40-50fps constant. Muti with everything on high (not ultra) and AA on 2X gets me a constant 60fps
     
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    unless youre runnin 720p, i doubt you get 60fps with 2xAA @ 900p. Not even a 485m/6850 can do that.
     
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    Hi all,
    does anyone want to expound on what largo wrote here? Is there a new graphics driver for our machines that might mean this game might have a chance of starting on my laptop now?

    Cheers
     
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    Managed to do furmark test at 1080p at 800/1100 for 20 minutes. temperature rise to 85c. I thought it was rather stable but battlefield 3 will get bump back to desktop!
     
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    I'm playing BF3 at HIGH settings and happy with it. Playing at 35 to 45+ FPS is good enough for me as well as the graphics looks fine. All at stock speed.
     
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    See! There you go! 800/1100 is a good (if not one of the best) oc's for our 5870m. Temps seem great. And the 'crash-to-desktop' is a known problem from dice, its got nothing to do with our machines ;)
     
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