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    G51j Blue screen of death problems

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Dragokld, Oct 31, 2009.

  1. thalanix

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    ill give 205 a go after finishing NSMBW in 1080p via dolphin (16x af, no aa) and real wiimote :).
    no bsod after 15 hours/world 7. win7, 195.55.

    i really should be studying.
     
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    If you've been actually reading more of this thread you'll notice that people get a stop code of 124 with their BSOD. That link doesn't even have that at all and would it be any help even if it did...
     
  5. tigerlp

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    my bad;;
    ill find better ones
     
  6. ALLurGroceries

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    Has anyone tried the Mcafee removal tool (to completely rule it out)?

    http://service.mcafee.com/FAQDocument.aspx?lc=1033&id=TS100507

    Maybe the uninstaller isn't good enough. Just a thought.

    Edit: err wait, has anyone done a CLEAN (aka retail) install of Win7 and gotten the BSoD? Mcafee is linked to the same stop code in some error reports found via teh goog.
     
  7. thejas90

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    Hey folks,
    Sorry if this is not the most appropriate place to post this. But I was wondering what were GPU and CPU temps obtained on the G51J during high loads? I've seen a handful of temps in this post that said that the GPU was between 85-90 degrees.

    If that is the case, would the G51J be a stable laptop? Are those temps common and/or normal? I'm tired of having overheating issues with laptops. My current laptop is frustrating because it overheats. It was fine initially but now after a few years it shuts down when i try to play even simple games.

    Thanks
     
  8. Cheeseman

    Cheeseman Eats alot of Cheese

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    The maximum temp for my G51J has reached is 86 degrees. Although the G51J does run on the warm side it appears to be able to handle these temps just fine or otherwise you would have an automatic underclocking of GPU happening or complete shutdown of the system to avoid damage. None of that has happened with my laptop and I haven’t heard of anyone else on these forums having their laptop reach that point. I suggest you open the panel underneath your laptop where the fan is located and you clean it.
     
  9. thejas90

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    Yea, I took it apart and cleaned everything. I replaced the thermal compound on my GPU as well, using AS5, but it actually got worse. I thought it was possibly because of insufficient contact between the GPU and the copper contact because it seemed like the stock compound was some thermal pad or some clay like stock thermal compound that was a little thick. So I got a thermal pad that was quite thick but has bad thermal conductivity. Regardless, it runs now but its not as good as before. I used to be able to play TF2.

    However, i have to admit when I reopened my laptop it seemed like maybe I had too much AS5?. But it would not have made my comp suck that bad would it? Its old but not being able to run Warcraft:Frozen throne is not very pleasing.

    Really? max 86 is fine? It feels like a lot maybe because I've been having issues. Is that durable though, when the comp ages with those temps ? Isn't the max temp for 260M 92 or 96 degrees, its awfully close. I so want to buy the G51J but i can't decide.. Sorry about the long post
     
  10. tigerlp

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    does the G51J-A1 Come with any anti virus pre installed?
     
  11. tigerlp

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    Cheeseman Eats alot of Cheese

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    No, but gives you the option for Norton AntiVirus which like always I skipped for Avast free edition.
     
  13. tigerlp

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    yea, avast is really nice. free for 14 months.
    And Just ordered my G51j a1 and ill finally have a good laptop. the intergrated graphics cant do anything. Its a big Leap from Crap laptop to a nice gamming laptop.
     
  14. ALLurGroceries

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    Oh it's norton still? I thought mine came with mcafee... nvm then. Whatever it was I nuked it on first boot.
     
  15. MichaelKW

    MichaelKW Notebook Consultant

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    Norton wasn't an option on mine.. can't remember what trial thing wanted to activate (only had the stock os installed for a few hours before I wiped the drives), but I know it wasn't Norton. It doesn't really matter anyway as it has nothing to do with this thread. Even clean RTM installs of Win7 are reported here to have the same crashes as stock ones.
     
  16. tigerlp

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    do any of you guys know a good MMorpg with Very Nice graphics?
    Soul of ultimat nations look nice and also silk road online.
    you guy should cheak out Blade and soul , a new mmo commin up an it looks NICE, the graphics are Beautiful, the landscape and the lighting and everything. i hear it is comming out late 2010 or 2011.
     
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    mine is getting up to 95 during games :) no shut offs at the moment.
     
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    My graphics chip runs pretty consistent at 90-96 when gaming with no Vsync. Using Furmark I see it peg 100 and no shutdowns from heat.

    (Still troubleshooting random gaming shutdowns, and thinking it may be related to nvidia multi monitor stuff and having the laptop open vs. closed....still testing) :confused:
     
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    Ah.. Ok.. Hmm I can't decide if I should get the G51-J. Not only do I have concerns about the heating GPU, the BSOD issues is yet to be solved, the G51-J 3D is coming soon and intel i believe is unveiling a new core i7 mobile processor model (not sure). Argh...
     
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    IMHO I would wait. I followed this thread before I bought mine, and I've been lucky not to have BSoDs, but it's probably because I don't game very often, and I run Linux the rest of the time. Until there is a real fix there isn't much incentive to buy the G51J-A1 unless you are willing to bet against the house.

    I do love my G51J, but as I've said I'm almost never in windows, so that's why I knew I'd be safe (or had a good hunch) when I bought it. If you're looking at it for a gaming machine it'd be hard for me to justify it, because you might end up chained to this thread like so many others. :(

    Just my two cents. Please don't flame me. :eek:
     
  22. thejas90

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    Don't worry dude. Thanks.. Yea.. I'm looking for a powerful machine.. with reliable gaming performance... The wait is unbearable... I need a comp too.. Ugh..
     
  23. thalanix

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    game performance in XP is better anyway ;)
     
  24. Hydeo

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    Kinda lame how this problem still isn't resolved by Asus after a month and a half...
     
  25. sama98b

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    And even better on dos ;) just don't look for dx10 effects.

    Reason we buy new hardware to use the newest softwares .. to run 9 year old programs a 9 year old pc would be enough.
    Now we look down to xp as we did to win 3.1, outdated in every way.


    Not as easy as some of the users never had any bsod.
     
  26. tigerlp

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    why not just install xp on it.
    you wont be getting bsod.
     
  27. thalanix

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    Star Control and Descent don't need no fancy directx.

    so far, only myself and one other user confirmed no BSODs on XP. others asked about drivers, haven't heard back. its possible (however unlikely) that some people may also have issues on xp.
     
  28. RoachBurn

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    Hey guys,

    I just created an account so I could join these uber forums since I've been reading them for awhile, as well as my original forum home. Glad to finally have an account and possibly make some sort of contribution eventually. :p

    That being said, I just ordered the Asus G51J-A1 from NCIX.com and it's currently en route to my place. Now, I had read every single BSOD thread about this lappy that I could find and I still made the educated decision to buy this thing. The specs have my really excited to see what it can due with my huge library of old and new games.

    I am, however, still incredibly concerned with the errors. I have read the topics on this forum about slipstreaming XP and I was just hoping to clarify one more time that the G51VX drivers are 100% compatible given both models have essentially the same hardware (minus the Sata and Lan drivers found here @ post #8).
     
  29. ahmadmud

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    ok, after I installed XP, I followed thalanix's guide, except that i have the Intel pro 5300 wireless, whenever I start skype I get a BSOD ?

    can you guys help?
     
  30. VZX

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    I still can't decide whether I should buy G51J-A1 or G51VX-A1 later in mid-January.

    Spec-wise, the difference from G51J-A1-A1 are only the processor and the pre-configured OS they come with, right?

    So far after I re-read this thread over and the G51J-A1 owner lounge, I saw people have 0 problem with their G51J-A1 once they moved from 7 to XP (or Ubuntu, even). Could it be partially because of the OS issue as well?
     
  31. gmini

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    what's the stop code number you get?

    The chipsets are different.
     
  32. ahmadmud

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    what i got was:

    *** stop: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0xA80ACFF0, 0xA260B9F4, 0x00000000)

    *** ks.sys - address A80ACFF0 base at A80A7000, DateSTamp 4825c12

    beginning dump of physical memory
    physical memory dump complete contact your system admin...
     
  33. gmini

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    that's all about audio... possibly sound driver or DirectX are causing this bsod.
     
  34. ahmadmud

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    well. what action do you recommend me to take?
     
  35. gmini

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    reinstall the audio drivers, also try to update directx...
     
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    thanks man, just did what said, and it's working great
     
  37. Khorpo

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    Hello everyone,

    I own a G51j-A1 as well and I'm getting the same issues.
    I've been reading over the internet about this issue and tried several things.

    I tried the 205 BIOS and it didn't do anything. Also, updating NVIDIA drivers didn't help.

    I've read somewhere that removing Razer drivers can help, so I did that.
    Also, I turned off the Antisantropic (is that how you spell that) and also the Occlusion ? (I don't have my laptop with me right now, I'll edit later) because apparently the game doesn't support it.
    I was able to play Borderlands for a good 2h straight without BSOD.
    Now, I suspect that the problem is still not resolved, I'll give it a shot this weekend.

    However, I found something really interesting on another forum today.

    http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/BSOD-Windows-7-BCCode-124-t260603.html

    With the help of the "program" they tell the user to use, he seems to be getting a hal.dll issue. I guess that will help us all figure out what is the deal with all those BSOD.

    Can someone try this out?
     
  38. tigerlp

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    any words for asus yet?
     
  39. thalanix

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    the BSOD issue seems to be hit-or-miss.
    if you've slipstreamed XP before, you can go the commando way and just add sata/lan(/wireless). it will install, have (surprisingly only a few) missing devices, among which will be the audio (realtek), bluetooth (widcomm), acpi (atk), and one or two others i may have forgot.
    for asus software, install what you want. i've been living with none on my machine.

    actually, has there been someone who HASN'T had a BSOD on borderlands? (43 pages is a lot to go back through)
     
  40. RoachBurn

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    Actually I've never slipstreamed anything before. This will be the first laptop I've ever purchased, I've never owned one before so I'm worried I'm going to mess something up and nothing will work again. I'm sure I'm just being a bit of an alarmist but again, I've never done this so I have no confidence going into it.
     
  41. sama98b

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    Ppl with bsod should open new topic and just post raw data no comments there,
    everyone can just edit his own post no need to make it long.
     
  42. breezer

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    Just had one playing dragon age origins , my 4 of the day .

    [​IMG]
     
  43. alwayslearnin

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    Just got my first BSOD. Playing Civilization IV for about 2 hours. Same issue as everyone else.
     
  44. thalanix

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    worst case is youll burn a few bad discs :p

    first time i've seen DAO affected, unfortunate.

    if there's anyone who's played more than a combined 40+ hours or so of Borderlands and HAS NOT got a BSOD, it would be nice to know. as of now, it's looking more and more like a faulty batch of G51Js from the factory.
     
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    I think Fuyuki finished borderlands already (he mentioned it in a previous post of this thread)
     
  46. thalanix

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    it takes less than 40 to beat the game (first and second playthough) ;)
    if you need something to do, you can repeatedly quit/spawn in New Haven while opening the chest on top of the roof.
     
  47. fuyuki

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    yeah, I'm done with it :D
     
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    When i first played Borderlands, I got a BSOD after about 5 minutes of playing. I googled it to see if anyone else (not with a g51j) got a BSOD and one tip was to turn off anisotropic filtering and ambient occlusions.

    Haven't gotten a BSOD afterwards yet.
     
  49. fuyuki

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    mmm, maybe that's why I don't get BSOD at borderland. I didn't turn on AA on borderland, but I did have ambient occulsion.
     
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    AA is not anisotropic filtering, AA= anti aliasing. they are different settings.
     
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