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    G73 GSOD Fixes and Resources

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Chastity, Jul 8, 2010.

  1. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    No interviews??! Bah ;) What I want to read is their response.
     
  2. fritzer

    fritzer Notebook Consultant

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    what can they say.. i mean really if they admit to being at fault the what... recall??

    they are going to stay silent and as far from this as possible...

    least they could do for us though is rework some 10.7 drivers and make us happy
    then next year some 10.12 drivers, etc...

    one or two driver reworks....

    ofcourse i would expect a recall, or the ability to take the unit in and get a real working gpu put in correctly as well
    then i would consider an asus again... but what are the chances of that
     
  3. Secro

    Secro Notebook Enthusiast

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    Day 2 of 10.7a: Still going ok. Ran furmark for 1 hr when I got home from work and now upto 4 hours of having alpha test of an upcomming MMO (awesome graphics too!) playing and it still hasn't had a GSOD.
    I think it's only a matter of time though :) The minute it does GSOD i'm going back to 10.1 lol.
     
  4. EckoAbrams

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    I'm kinda new to all this voltage/clock speed tinkering stuff and have a quick question. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post.

    I just flashed my vbios to Ziddy's v3 and it's supposed to have changed the voltages to 1.05/.90, but AMD GPU ClockTool still shows my voltage at 1.15. The options to change it to 1.05 and .90 are there but when I hit 'set voltage' nothing happens. Also the vBios was supposed to make the GPU automatically downclock to 200/500 when running on battery, but according to AMD GPU Clocktool and techPowerup GPU-Z, when I unplug the clocks stay at 700/1000. Am I missing something? I have Overdrive unlocked in CCC so I know the vBios flash worked. I'm on 10.7a and I have Power4Gear Hybrid uninstalled since I never used turboboost anyway.

    Haven't had time to test stability at stock clock speeds yet, so can't say if my GSOD's are gone. I wanted to figure out all the voltage/clock stuff first.

    EDIT: Ok, now it is going to 200/500 on battery (not sure what I changed), and the voltage is now locked at .900. Shouldn't it use the 1.05 when the clock is 700/1000 and the .9 only when it is 200/500. Or is the .900 stable for 700/1000 as well?
     
  5. erli

    erli Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah, I thought my comp was GSOD free until i tested furmark for an hour instead of 20 minute durations, I crashed at around 40 minutes using ziddy vbios 3. It's past my two week return window so I"m out of luck and stuck with this computer, I really hope ASUS does something now.
     
  6. humanshield

    humanshield Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sorry about not looking around. I've found the posts you're referring to. I am indeed concerned about running SCII and BC2 in partcular, so I'm planning on trying the 10.7a release. Tips?
     
  7. Chastity

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    UPDATE: I like to play Magic The Gathering: Duels of the Planewalkers, and this game on my system would be unstable on stock speeds with newer reference drivers. Always needed a 705/1100 OC. I would like to add that with 10.7a, I just played a full round with a couple of friends online at 700/1000, and no glitches. Needless to say, I'm very happy with that result. :) I think when I get home I am going to archive this current OS install, and use it for when I screw things up again. :D
     
  8. Chastity

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    VOLUNTEERS NEEDED

    I'd would love some feedback from users using Ziddy's V3 vBIOS + Catalyst 10.7a. People not interested in using a mod vBIOS please do not apply.
     
  9. erli

    erli Notebook Enthusiast

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    What do you want to test? I haven't unflashed ziddy v3 yet, although I might keep it just for the better battery conservation.
     
  10. KRF

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    I confirm good results in FurMark with 10.7 and stock 700/1000 on the v3 vBios. Ran 90 min. without any issues! Max Ts 87^C.
     
  11. Chastity

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    If you have Ziddy's V3 vBIOS installed, AND you have GSOD issues, please install 10.7a Beta Hotfix from ATI and run some tests at stock speeds please.
     
  12. Chastity

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    I also ran into some stuff on Hardwareheaven where a chap going by Robin Hood has been modding the Cat releases for OEM Notebook users. I thought you may like to try his 10.7 WHQL release if you have issues with the ones ATI supply. If it helps, let us know about it. :)
     
  13. jaolhe2

    jaolhe2 Notebook Guru

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    I tested this combination, Furmark was flickering and showing artifacts after ~10 mins and crashed on second run straight away with black screen. So 10.7a doesn't seem to be a real solution either :(
    Anyone tried those Robin Hood drivers yet?
     
  14. Chastity

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    Do an uninstall of the drivers, reboot to safe mode, Driver Sweep and CCleaner regclean, then reboot and install 10.7a Custom Install with no HydraVision. (This will emulate my setup)
     
  15. <MarkS>

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    Looks like a placebo pack :)

    Identical to 10.7 from ATI.

    Ironically, it'll probably solve all HellCry's issues heh.
     
  16. Chastity

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    oh well, hey, I'm trying to find anything that'll help guys. :)
     
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    Mucho appreciated! :)
     
  18. HeavenCry

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    What do you mean it will solve my issues? Its just the reference driver that we know doesnt work...
     
  19. rschauby

    rschauby Superfluously Redundant

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    I have never had a GSOD, and my unit is from the very first shipment (ordered the morning newegg.com posted them in). I have only locked up and crashed once, but I got the Windows BSOD. I've installed every single ATI CCC update from stock to 10.7a. I have about 30 brand new games that I play (I am a gamer nerd and spend every evening of my life playing 5 hours of video games and all day on weekends) and I've yet to GSOD or crash other than that single incident. My temps are not bad, wish they were better, usually around 85* shader on every game but BFBC2 which gets up to 90*. I'd prefer low 80's so I'm seriously considering a repaste as long as I order a replacement keyboard first. I run the 209 BIOS and I have always kept the stock VBios.

    I've encountered the keyboard/touchpad issue, but I just disabled the touchpad in the bios. I hate the G73 touchpad anyway and I always use my G9 mouse so this doesn't bother me.

    Hellcry, I don't doubt that you say that there is no G73 in existence that won't GSOD given a long enough run on Furmark; but given my experience I don't know if it's just a broad spectrum or there is a fundamental defect in the hardware.

    I almost need to stop visiting this forum and reading all this stuff because it's seriously giving me a complex about a machine that has worked perfect for me and my 80 hour a week gaming habits.

    I know I am not alone, I have heard others like Jody and ViciousXUSMC share similar experiences.

    I don't mean to invalidate any problems people have, I know they are real and I think Asus needs to do something. Personally, I just need to stop reading this message board all day and enjoy my machine.
     
  20. DRevan

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    As HellCry sad, a director from Asus himself sad that there are no 100% GSOD free Asus Mobility Radeon 5870s...your is probably just more stable than for the rest of us and maybe it would give GSOD only after a day of Furmark...jus't because it doesn't GSOD in games, doesn't meen it's GSOD free...for example first time I installed 10.6 I played Mass Effect 2 for hours without a problem, next day when I loaded up L4D2, bamm, GSOD in 10 seconds.
     
  21. HeavenCry

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    Im glad to hear your happy and have never ran into these problems, but imagine my frustration; i complained of my gsod problems and overheating and got a new gpu that also gsods. I went to the service center where they let me test 11 more gpus and none works and in the end the director there tells me that its all the Asus mob. 5870 gpus that have this problem and that he can replace the gpu with a new one again, but of course it wont help. Also got confirmation from ATI and numerous other sources that asked to stay unnamed. What would you do and tell others if you were in my position?
     
  22. <MarkS>

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    I'm right there with you, although I don't game as many hours as you.

    I have no idea why I still read every G73JH-related post here....must be OCD.

    I do like tinkering since I've been a PC developer since PCs existed, so I don't mind looking into diagnosis and/or potential fixes, but the more I read the more I worry LOL.
     
  23. gstboy

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    what did you use to test to get the gsods in 11 gpus?
     
  24. Secro

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    I'd say furmark. :O
     
  25. DRevan

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    Or, the fastest test...run WEI score, u can quick check and only takes 10 seconds :D If it runs without a problem, then give it some Furmark, if it gives GSOD at WEI score...u save the time of a Furmark run ;)
     
  26. stevenjii

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    Haha, I feel the exact same.
     
  27. HeavenCry

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    Used the 10.7a drivers and furmark.
     
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    HellCry, the Harbinger of GSOD! :D
     
  29. rschauby

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    I don't mean to invalidate your complaints and concerns. I've read enough threads and agree the G73 has some broad problems that need fixing. I definitely feel fortunate about my experience with the machine, and empathize with you and others who are having some seriously agonizing experiences with your machines and Asus. I know hope and trust in Asus is waining for some, and I hope Asus does the right thing and offers some solutions for our machines.
     
  30. Secro

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    On Day 2 it was starting to flicker during the 4 hours of MMO playing, today it started flicker etc again today, then GSOD after about 2 hours of playing.

    Back to 10.1 for me.

    Dear ASUS, can we have some drivers please?
     
  31. DRevan

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    Just got response back about BIOS 211 from Asus Germany, the short version:
    "I am sorry, but we are not allowed to send BIOS by e-mail"
    And he gave me link to BIOS 209.

    -_-
     
  32. Tim4

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    So, you are saying, that Asus is prepearing new bios for G73JH?
     
  33. DRevan

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    It's just a rumour, no proof yet.
     
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    Hope this rumur is true and they finally will chnge thermal policy in G73 bios(i.e GPU fan speed.) For example it will be cool, if they will set fan speed to 60% somewhere at 70-73C by GPU core.
     
  35. Chastity

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    ATTENTION: Can we get some GSOD people to try the desktop driver packages?
     
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    Great! I'll probably hold back for a bit and see what other users say about it. Thanks for the update.

    This will be a dealbreaker for me... I'm looking at Clevo laptops and, since I'm still within my 15 days, returning my G73. If this bios fixes enough issues, I'll happily save a few hundred dollars and stay with the G73- I'm a college student so 'just' a hundred dollars goes a long way. :p
     
  38. Chastity

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    ATTENTION BUMP: Still need volunteers to try their units on 10.7 Desktop WHQL
     
  39. Xelloss

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    I am getting GSOD with v3 mod and desktop 10.7 and 10.7a. Can't even get through one run of FFXIV without getting one. Also tried over HDMI and it GSOD my monitor ;)
     
  40. Chastity

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    So, we should see what is different with my setup and yours. Hmm. I could prepare an image of my install, and see how that image works with other machines... hmmm.
     
  41. Xelloss

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    Not sure I even have a third HDD I have a fresh install of Windows 7 Pro on just to try drivers on that, have had no luck. Either my GPU is more flawed/damaged then yours in some way.
     
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    Sorry if this question has been asked before, but has anyone tried the MSI GX-740vBIOS? Dated 02/02/2010


    h/tp://www.msi.com/index.php?func=firmwarefile&dno=11770&i=0
     
  43. Chastity

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    I just remembered, I have some of the hardware disabled:

    Webcam, card reader, Bluetooth, TV Tuner
     
  44. Xelloss

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    Just disabled from Device manager? Where do I disable the tv tuner and card reader?
     
  45. KRF

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    Dated 7/2/10 not 2/2/10
     
  46. HeavenCry

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    DO NOT flash that vBios onto your GPU. It will brick your laptop as some users whove done it reported.
    You can use their previous vBios or the Clevo one, but youll be left without HDMI and VGA out, and it still wont be fully stable.
     
  47. KRF

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    Thanks! Wonder if the MSI's is a "specialty" card like in the g73jh or reference card?
     
  48. HeavenCry

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    Every laptop manufacturer makes their own cards according to ATI, they are provided with only the chipset and they choose the rest themselves.
     
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    Previously released MSI Mobility 5870 vBIOS worked with ASUS Mobility 5870...I wouldn't be suprised if MSI built in a protection so it would only work on MSI Moblity 5870 (since MSI didn't approve the use of their vBIOS on Asus cards).
     
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    I disabled them in the BIOS. Some of the items are under the USB submenu.
     
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